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Childress79

Childress79

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Now that we know who all will be in the draft and have had an opportunity to see many prospects in the Shrine game, NFLPA, & the Senior Bowl, who are a few of the prospects you like (especially those that you like for the Texans). I'll lead off:
 
O-line: I am hoping we sign a free agent to compete with or replace Davenport at LT. I think that our IOL is serviceable as it is so I am looking for depth and a starter at RT.

David Edwards: his stock might be slipping but if his shoulder checks out at the combine he is my favorite prospect for RT. I could see Watt taking him to the cabin and whipping him into shape before TC. Would likely have to be our first round pick but could slide to 2nd?

Yodny Cajuste: This would be a situation similar to Lane Johnson in Philly as I think Cajuste would start out at RT but would be the heir apparent to whoever we signed as a FA at LT (Trent Brown? Donovan Smith?). Almost certainly would have to use the first round pick.

Cody Ford: Maybe the top prospect at RT in the draft. I worry a little bit about his length but he is exactly the type of player I want at RT. May be gone before we pick.

Dalton Risner: I am not as high on him as some. He is the guy I see with the highest floor but also the lowest ceiling. I am open to being wrong about that but that is how I see him. I would take him if available in the 2nd round.

Chuma Edoga: I like Edoga as a mid round pick who we groom to play LT in the future. I would consider pulling the trigger as early as the 3rd round but would prefer our 5th rounder.
 
Running backs: The longhorn in me wants to believe that Foreman will be back in a big way next year but I am concerned enough to want to address the position with a mid to late round pick or an undrafted free agent.

Miles Sanders: I think he is a less juiced up Lamar Miller. Selecting after the 2nd round would be my preference.

Elijah Holyfield: Bulldozing RB with some big play ability. Not a feature back so much as a change of pace, wear down the defense runner. Replacement for Foreman that I’d spend no more than a 3rd on.

Benny Snell: Similar to Holyfield in terms of style and value.

Mike Weber: Another bruiser. Might be available in the 5th?

Nick Brosette: Blue’s replacement. Would look to select him in the 6th or 7th.
 
Wide receivers: A position of strength on paper, we just suffered through a glut of injuries that decimated the position group and requires some attention. Will Fuller is a potential cap casualty in a year or two and I want to put us in position to move on if he can’t live up to his cap hit. I am looking for an impact player that can play from the slot and the boundary or an impact boundary and then a depth piece from the slot.

Riley Ridley: Similar to but bigger than his brother Calvin (who caught 60 passes with 10 TDs as a rookie this season). I wish he could make it to our second round pick but I think he’ll be picked earlier in the 2nd.

Kelvin Harmon: A less explosive Alshon Jeffery. Red zone weapon. Like Ridley his value for me is early 2nd between our 1st and 2nd round picks.

Deebo Samuel: Offensive weapon. Can play from the slot, the boundary or out of the backfield. Would have to pick him up in the 2nd if he made it that far.

Andy Isabella: His ceiling is Tyreek Hill, his floor is a juiced up Wes Welker. He would be firmly on my radar in the 3rd but I might spend a 2 just to ensure I get him.

Penny Hart: Similar to Isabella but without some of the hype until the senior bowl (I admit I wasn’t aware of him before this week). Would like him in the 5th but we might have to spend a 3rd to get him.
 
Front 7: Would love to add one more difference maker to the defensive front. Depednign on what we do with our own free agents, the line should be deep if not necessarily full of difference makers. We could use another above average lineman. As for our LB core we still are prone to being abused by RBs and TEs in the passing game.

Charles Omenihu: Difference maker as a 3-4 DE opposite JJ. Would allow us to consider letting one of Blackson, Dunn, Heath or Convington go. Likely would take our first to get him if he wasn’t already gone by then.

Daylon Mack: Insurance in case Reader is too expensive moving forward. 2 down NT with juice for his size. 3RD and beyond.

Renell Wren: 3rd down interior DL pass rush specialists. What Carlos Watkins is supposed to be but isn’t yet. 5th round and on I would consider either one.

Ricky Walker: See Wren above.

Jalen Jelks: Athletically he is what an edge rusher is supposed to be. He played out of position inside for much of his career (but was an effective 240 lb DT). I think with a little schooling he could give us what Whitney Mercilus produced before this season. I would target Jelks in the 2nd or 3rd.
 
Corners: I hate our cornerbacks (outside of Joseph) as much as I love our safeties (assuming we bring back Tyrann and Kareem, I love our safeties). I think Gaine has to sign a starter level free agent corner (I would suggest Darqueze Dennard or Bashaud Breeland). I would think a rookie would start out behind Joseph on the depth chart but would replace the veteran in season.

Trayvon Mullen: Have long been a fan of his height and speed. Defensive MVP in the National Championship shows he is likely more than just a good athlete that plays football. Almost certainly would have to use the first round pick.

Kendall Sheffield: Fastest man in college football? Sheffield is local (Missouri City) and would be the perfect guy to apprentice under Joseph given their similar attributes. Second or maybe 3rd round pick.

Amani Oruwariye: Reminds me of AJ Bouye. He is farther along than Bouye was at this stage though. 2nd or 3rd round pick.

Isaiah Johnson: A WR to CB convert with traits to become a starter. He might not see the field next year so I would probably be against picking him before the 5th round.

Michael Jackson: Physical corner whose stock took a hit at the Shrine game. 3rd round at the earliest.
 
Childress79 said:
Deebo Samuel: Offensive weapon. Can play from the slot, the boundary or out of the backfield. Would have to pick him up in the 2nd if he made it that far.
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This guy is the real deal. He has all the tools. But he has football savvy, to boot. That's what you're looking for in a player. I doubt the Texans get him, but damn he's good.

You mentioned a lot of good players, but some of the lesser known guys I like are:

Oli Udoh - OL, Elon. He might not be plug and play like a lot of this very solid o-line class. But in a couple of years, Udoh could turn into something special.

Byron Cowart - DL, Maryland. Top rated prospect coming out of HS looked like a bust at Auburn as an edge player. Now at 290+, Cowart looks like he can play either the 3 or 5 technique in the NFL. He's a steal if he gets to Day 3.

Markus Jones - Edge, Angelo State. Jones manhandled the big school linemen at the Shrine game, and hustled after the ball like someone stole his mama's purse. reminds of another DII defender in Raven's Matt Judon.
 
Childress79 said:
Wide receivers: A position of strength on paper, we just suffered through a glut of injuries that decimated the position group and requires some attention. Will Fuller is a potential cap casualty in a year or two and I want to put us in position to move on if he can’t live up to his cap hit. I am looking for an impact player that can play from the slot and the boundary or an impact boundary and then a depth piece from the slot.

Riley Ridley: Similar to but bigger than his brother Calvin (who caught 60 passes with 10 TDs as a rookie this season). I wish he could make it to our second round pick but I think he’ll be picked earlier in the 2nd.

Kelvin Harmon: A less explosive Alshon Jeffery. Red zone weapon. Like Ridley his value for me is early 2nd between our 1st and 2nd round picks.

Deebo Samuel: Offensive weapon. Can play from the slot, the boundary or out of the backfield. Would have to pick him up in the 2nd if he made it that far.

Andy Isabella: His ceiling is Tyreek Hill, his floor is a juiced up Wes Welker. He would be firmly on my radar in the 3rd but I might spend a 2 just to ensure I get him.

Penny Hart: Similar to Isabella but without some of the hype until the senior bowl (I admit I wasn’t aware of him before this week). Would like him in the 5th but we might have to spend a 3rd to get him.
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Good Stuff :wesmantexanfan:

I would have to take a hard look @ Deebo w/#23 selection. He could really help take a load off DeAndre and if Fuller and Coutee could stay healthy that's going to spread any defense wide open.
 
Ryan Finley is impressive .... smooth, textbook throwing motion, ball jumps out of his hand ....cool customer !
 
Here are the Offensive prospects that I’m interested in:

OT
Andre Dillard- WSU, great pass protector, 3 year starter
Kaleb McGary- UW, great length, apart of a great tackle duo at UW
Dalton Risner- KSU, nasty demeanor, versatile across the line, excellent strength
Max Scharping- NIU, 4 years starting experience
Cody Ford- OU, nasty demeanor, RT but has potential at OG as well
Yodny Cajuste- WVU, projects starting LT, great power

Didn’t list Little or Williams because I don’t know if they’ll be on the board for our pick.

OG
Chris Lindstrom- BC, great combination of size and technique, came from a run heavy offense
Michael Dieter- Wisconsin, great athleticism, has scheme diversity
Nate Davis- Charlotte, powerful blocker, moves well
Hjalte Frohodlt- Arkansas, developmental prospect, converted DL, flexible, great movement

RB
David Montgomery - Iowa State, grinder, aggressive, soft hands
Derrell Henderson - Memphis, good balance, speedy
Devin Singletary- FA, good balance and vision, elusive
Devine Ozigbo- Nebraska, smooth mover, blend of power and lateral quickness, great size, could be a bargain in later rounds

I feel like the is a deep draft, so we could potentially find great value in the later rounds.


TE
TJ Hockenson- Iowa, don’t know if he’ll be available but I like him, soft hands, has experience with in-line blocking, does it all
Irv Smith Jr- Alabama, excellent route runner, great run blocking TE
Isaac Nauta- Georgia, great size and power, strong hands


Very deep TE class. I think we’ll find value in mid or late rounds

WR
Riley Ridley- Georgia, soft hands, locates the football well
Keesean Johnson- Fresno State, technician at route running, strong hands, can play both outside and slot
Keelan Doss- UC Davis, great senior bowl week, small school burner, flawless routes
 
Here are the Defensive prospects that I’m interested in:

CB
Byron Murphy- UW, stickiness with man coverage, cover intelligence, excellent quickness
Rock Ya Sin- Temple, great size, good technique, physical, great production with passes defensed and interceptions
Julian Love- ND, quick feet, good hands in off coverage, speed is a potential concern
Montre Hartage- Northwestern, great size, terrific ball skills, scrappy

S
Nasir Adderley- Delaware, versatile, played both CB and S, good speed, smooth footwork
Taylor Rapp- UW, smart and aggressive , excellent tackler

I believe S isn’t a high draft need, but I’d definitely consider these players.

LB
Cody Barton- Utah, great in coverage,
strong tackler, toughness,
 
justmy2cents said:
6'6" - 330 10" 36" 85" .... man, that's so impressive, it's almost overkill !
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I think @otisbean is referring to Chuma Edoga - LT, USC. He displayed good footwork in keeping the South's edge rushers from turning the corner. Also had the quickness to get out on the bubble screen, that O'Brien loves so much.

The big guy you were thinking of, Oli Udoh - RT, Elon had some issues with outside speed in the game. May have to kick inside intially in the NFL.
 
TexansFan15 said:
Here are the Defensive prospects that I’m interested in:

CB
Byron Murphy- UW, stickiness with man coverage, cover intelligence, excellent quickness
Rock Ya Sin- Temple, great size, good technique, physical, great production with passes defensed and interceptions
Julian Love- ND, quick feet, good hands in off coverage, speed is a potential concern
Montre Hartage- Northwestern, great size, terrific ball skills, scrappy

S
Nasir Adderley- Delaware, versatile, played both CB and S, good speed, smooth footwork
Taylor Rapp- UW, smart and aggressive , excellent tackler

I believe S isn’t a high draft need, but I’d definitely consider these players.

LB
Cody Barton- Utah, great in coverage,
strong tackler, toughness,
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I heard that Ya'Sin had poor showing at Senior Bowl? Can anyone confirm that?
 
Lucky said:
I think @otisbean is referring to Chuma Edoga - LT, USC. He displayed good footwork in keeping the South's edge rushers from turning the corner. Also had the quickness to get out on the bubble screen, that O'Brien loves so much.

The big guy you were thinking of, Oli Udoh - RT, Elon had some issues with outside speed in the game. May have to kick inside intially in the NFL.
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Good catch .... yeah, after I saw those measurements, I went back to watching. As soon as I spotted him, he got embarrassed by an edge rusher who easily hit the QB. What a shame .... not just triangle numbers, all the numbers .... but you've got to watch them move ! He's big, he's strong, he's fast .... but is he a football player ?
 
Childress79 said:
David Edwards: his stock might be slipping but if his shoulder checks out at the combine he is my favorite prospect for RT. I could see Watt taking him to the cabin and whipping him into shape before TC. Would likely have to be our first round pick but could slide to 2nd?
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Edwards stock is slipping due to injury? I suspect he might be on our radar because of all the inside zone Wisconsin ran.
 
Childress79 said:
O-line: I am hoping we sign a free agent to compete with or replace Davenport at LT. I think that our IOL is serviceable as it is so I am looking for depth and a starter at RT.

Chuma Edoga: I like Edoga as a mid round pick who we groom to play LT in the future. I would consider pulling the trigger as early as the 3rd round but would prefer our 5th rounder.
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I don’t know if Edoga has the length to play tackle. For the senior bowl weigh in he came in at 6-3 3/4, but if he proves he can then I’m okay with him as a developmental prospect.
 
Edoga looked better than anything the Texans got @ tackle. Never forget, people who thought Aaron Donald was undersized all he does is penetrate and sack QB’s. Edoga would battle him. Good feet to re-position his body, keeps pad level/weight low, natural bender with exceptional hands. Very polished football player. Best position; RT.
 
beerlover said:
Edoga looked better than anything the Texans got @ tackle. Never forget, people who thought Aaron Donald was undersized all he does is penetrate and sack QB’s. Edoga would battle him. Good feet to re-position his body, keeps pad level/weight low, natural bender with exceptional hands. Very polished football player. Best position; RT.
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How often does Donald go against OT's?
 
I’m just saying, if Donald was lined up right side, Edoga would be asked to chip and finish off play with or without double team, he has hand and foot speed to deal with a Donald type of penetrating DT.

Be interesting to see how Patriots double team and bring help to slow down Donald? Brady hasn’t hardly been touched and they let Big Nate go before the season.
 
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I don’t know if Edoga has the length to play tackle. For the senior bowl weigh in he came in at 6-3 3/4, but if he proves he can then I’m okay with him as a developmental prospect.
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Duane Brown measured 6'4" at the combine. Isiah Wynn measured 6'2-3/4" and the Pats drafted him last year with the intent to play him at LT. Kelvin Beachum has made many starts in the NFL at just under 6'3". Charles Leno is 6'3"and starting for the Bears at LT. Etc.

Not saying that being 6-4 and under is common or preferable for a NFL LT. It's just not an absolute prerequisite. I do agree that Edoga would be a bit of a project, as he has played mostly at RT in his career at USC.
 
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Lucky said:
Duane Brown measured 6'4" at the combine. Isiah Wynn measured 6'2-3/4" and the Pats drafted him last year with the intent to play him at LT. Kelvin Beachum has made many starts in the NFL at just under 6'3". Charles Leno is 6'3"and starting for the Bears at LT. Etc.

Not saying that being 6-4 and under is common or preferable for a NFL LT. It's just not an absolute prerequisite. I do agree that Edoga would be a bit of a project, as he has played mostly at RT in his career at USC.
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Why move him to LT and turn him into something he’s not, a project, when he’s ready to plug and play as a starting RT?

Right tackles, more often than not these days go against speed and best pass rusher, and Edoga is athletic enough to counter.
 
badboy said:
I heard that Ya'Sin had poor showing at Senior Bowl? Can anyone confirm that?
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Rock had a PI in the game, but a very good week of practice. Overall, Ya-Sin really helped himself during Senior Bowl week.

beerlover said:
Why move him to LT and turn him into something he’s not, a project, when he’s ready to plug and play as a starting RT?

Right tackles, more often than not these days go against speed and best pass rusher, and Edoga is athletic enough to counter.
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I just pointed out that he was playing LT and playing it well during the week and the game. Which gives Edoga more value. But sure, he would be closer to starting right away at RT, though he would be among the smaller RTs in the league, as well.
 
Lucky said:
Rock had a PI in the game, but a very good week of practice. Overall, Ya-Sin really helped himself during Senior Bowl week.


I just pointed out that he was playing LT and playing it well during the week and the game. Which gives Edoga more value. But sure, he would be closer to starting right away at RT, though he would be among the smaller RTs in the league, as well.
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Sometimes, you just have to say, “screw the measureable” and take the football player.
 
Guy I like for the Texans

OT's

Little
Williams
Dillard
Cajuste
Risner
Udoga

OG/C

Lindstrom
McCoy
Jenkins
Piersbacher
Deiter
Bars

WR, 3rd rd or later Speed WR's.

McLaurin
Samuel
Ridley
Isabella
Ratliff-Williams

RB, Later Rd RB's
Ozigbo
Sanders
Rodney Anderson
Armstead
Bruce Anderson
Weber

TE's I'm looking at late rd blocking TE's

Oliver
Trevon Wesco
DrewSample
Foster Moreau
Andrew Beck
 
DT's, 3rd rd or later

Mack
Keke
Nelson
Beckner
Cowart

Edge

Ferguson
Jelks
Granderson
Collier
Brailford

LB, Late rd guys
Dru Tranquill
Burr-Kirven
Pratt
Tre Watson
Hansen

CB's, high rd

Murphy
Mullen
Sheffield
Love

Later rd guys

Blace Brown
Lonnie Johnson
Sin
Tim Harris
Mark Fields
Hamp Cheevers


Safeties, I haven't really looked at this position

Jaquan Johnson
Johnathan Abram
 
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QB - after 5th round

Jake Browning
Clayton Thorson
Trace McSorley
Easton Stick

RB - after 2nd round

Bryce Love
Devine Ozigbo
Ty Johnson
Alex Barnes

WR - after 1st round

Hakeem Butler
Lil Jordan Humphries
David Sills
Paris Campbell
Hunter Renfrow
Jesper Horstead
Ryan Davis
Keesean Johnson
Jamal Custis

TE - after 3rd round

Kaden Smith
Jace Sternberger
Tommy Sweeney
Matt Sokol

OT

David Edwards
Dalton Risner
Andre Dillard
Mytch Hyatt
Oli Udoh
Jackson Barton
Justin Skule

OG/C - after 1st round

Beau Benzschawel
Ben Powers
Nick Allegretti
Garrett Bradbury
Sam Mustipher

DL

Christian Wilkins
Jerry Tillery
Zach Allen
Anthony Nelson
Daniel Wise
Joe Gaziano
Will Geary

OLB - after 1st round

Oshane Ximines
Chase Winovich
Christian Miller
Mathieu Betts

ILB - after 2nd round

Khalil Hodge
Devin Bush
Bobby Okereke
Joe Giles Harris
Tre Watson
Ben Burr Kirven

CB

DeAndre Baker
Amani Oruwariye
Julian Love
Mark Gilbert
Alijah Holder
JoeJaun Williams
Blace Brown
Donnie Lewis
Montre Hartage
Derrick Baity
Jamel Dean

S - after 3rd round

Taylor Rapp
Lukas Denis
D'Cota Dixon
Andrew Wingard
 
steelbtexan said:
DT's, 3rd rd or later

Mack
Keke
Nelson
Beckner
Cowart

Edge

Ferguson
Jelks
Granderson
Collier
Brailford

LB, Late rd guys
Dru Tranquill
Burr-Kirven
Pratt
Tre Watson
Hansen

CB's, high rd

Murphy
Mullen
Sheffield
Love

Later rd guys

Blace Brown
Lonnie Johnson
Sin
Tim Harris
Mark Fields
Hamp Cheevers


Safeties, I haven't really looked at this position

Jaquan Johnson
Johnathan Abram
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Sheffield not getting much attention but I like what I've seen. Definitely has speed.
 
26. Darrell Henderson, Running Back, Memphis

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Henderson held on to the crown of most yards after contact this season, gaining a ridiculous 1,321 yards after first contact and averaging 6.17 yards after contact per attempt. No running back who carried the ball at least 61 times had a better average Yco./attempt as Henderson did a near-miraculous job of weaving his way through his impressive run blocking while also finding his own holes and breaking his own tackles in 2018.

Wanna RB in the later rounds? Listed around #237 on Drafttek's board, but that will likely change.
Should be there for our 6th, but if you are serious about taking a back in this draft, you go after him in the 5th.
 
7. Byron Murphy, Cornerback, Washington

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It’s been said before but can be said again, Murphy’s prowess in coverage can be summed up with one performance this season, and that came against Utah in the Pac-12 Championship. From his cornerback position, Murphy was the only player to see the end zone as he recorded a Pick-6 for the game’s only touchdown in the Huskies win over the Utes. With that in mind, Murphy was more than just a one-game sensation as he was targeted 62 times, yet allowed just 78 total yards after the catch in his coverage. He broke up 13 passes to go along with his four interceptions and saw a 54.5 passer rating when targeted.

Murphy is PFF's highest graded CB in the draft but Deandre Baker is not far behind him and I would be pleased with either of them in a Texans uni.
 
Texansphan said:
26. Darrell Henderson, Running Back, Memphis

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Henderson held on to the crown of most yards after contact this season, gaining a ridiculous 1,321 yards after first contact and averaging 6.17 yards after contact per attempt. No running back who carried the ball at least 61 times had a better average Yco./attempt as Henderson did a near-miraculous job of weaving his way through his impressive run blocking while also finding his own holes and breaking his own tackles in 2018.

Wanna RB in the later rounds? Listed around #237 on Drafttek's board, but that will likely change.
Should be there for our 6th, but if you are serious about taking a back in this draft, you go after him in the 5th.
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I'd like to see a compact RB like Henderson.
 
Henderson looks pretty darn good. I like that he doesn't seem to go down easily and has what looks like very good balance and acceleration. Top end looks pretty good, but it's always hard to tell if he is really fast or if the competition is just slower by comparison.
 
Lucky said:
Not sure the NFL shares your admiration, as Lowery was not on the initial combine list.
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yep saw that and immediately chuckled. Same with corners Clifton Duck and Donnie Lewis. My guy Maxx Crosby OLB did get there but is from one source listed as a 7th rounder (I hope).
 
WR, Denzel Mims- Baylor / 6-3 @ 209 lbs / Projected 4.4 with a crazy catch radius.

Denzel Mims - Don't Forget My Name / Highlights on YouTube

Denzel Mims - NFL Draft Network
 
That would make sense. Mims had a heck of a write up and it just didn't make sense that he was rated as a RD7 prospect. Since he's staying for another season in Baylor, Mims draft stock could be drastically improved.
 
It's really not looking good for either of the Iowa TE's making it to our pick in the second round. I didn't think it was so unrealistic a month ago, but I don't think we'll be able to snag either.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
It's really not looking good for either of the Iowa TE's making it to our pick in the second round. I didn't think it was so unrealistic a month ago, but I don't think we'll be able to snag either.
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There's another really good TE that could be there in RD4....maybe RD5. Josh Oliver out of San Jose State. He's 6-5 and weighs 253 lbs. He's got a cut frame which means the weight he's carrying is quality. I would speculate that his physique means he's already in possession of his NFL strength. Has sound hands and can handle the blocking chores in both the run and passing game. He had his best season in 2018 which has many scouts thinking he's got a nice ceiling to get even better. I'd love for the Texans to recoup a RD4 pick since I just don't think this type of athlete slips into late RD5.
 
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YoungTexanFan said:
It's really not looking good for either of the Iowa TE's making it to our pick in the second round. I didn't think it was so unrealistic a month ago, but I don't think we'll be able to snag either.
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I’d love it if we were able to draft either of them, but unfortunately I agree that I don’t think we’ll get the chance. This TE class is super deep. We might be able to draft Irv Smith Jr or Isaac Nauta. Otherwise, we still might be able to get another quality guy to add in the mid rounds.
 
TexansFan15 said:
Has anyone looked into OT Tytus Howard? I haven’t, but someone just mocked him to us in the 1st.
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According to LZ's analysis, I don't think there is any way he goes in the first

By Lance Zierlein
NFL Analyst
NFL Comparison
Desmond Harrison
Overview
Ascending tackle prospect who will require additional work with technique and in the weight room to fully realize his potential. Howard is a gifted athlete with rare quickness and fluidity as both a run and pass blocker and his play issues are correctable with more work. While he will be dinged for level of competition, his upside was on full display with his play against Auburn. He needs development, but he's much more than a developmental prospect and could find a starter's spot within his first two years.
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link

edit: Who mocked him in the 1st?
 
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