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I agree with you on Hyatt. I thought he would come out last year. If you were to take him with one of our seconds, would you also consider taking Wisconsin ROT - David Edwards in latter part of first round ?
These stats tell you all you need to know about the OL.
If it makes you feel better according to football outsiders metrics we have the 31st ranked pass pro line, and the 27th ranked run blocking line...
If it makes you feel better according to football outsiders metrics we have the 31st ranked pass pro line, and the 27th ranked run blocking line...
But they're improving.
What I want to know is all of the posters that said lets see what this OL can do before we judge them think now? Or are they still living in denial?
My hopes for this season had nothing to do with playoffs/record etc.... My hopes were for Watson to stay healthy behind this OL and keep learning how to read defenses.
So far so good on the injury front and he's really improving on reading defenses. So I'm very happy with how the season is going.
Yeah, some expect us to field a top 10 offense with some of the worst o-line play in the league though.
But they're improving.
What I want to know is all of the posters that said lets see what this OL can do before we judge them think now? Or are they still living in denial?
My hopes for this season had nothing to do with playoffs/record etc.... My hopes were for Watson to stay healthy behind this OL and keep learning how to read defenses.
So far so good on the injury front and he's really improving on reading defenses. So I'm very happy with how the season is going.
How can I expect to watch football and post at the same time, if I can't even walk and chew gum at the same time ? What I said was .... Yes, they are definitely improving. I've got a lot of respect for them .... but, I am all too convinced that their ceiling is just too low .... something akin to a Blue situation.
But they're improving.
What I want to know is all of the posters that said lets see what this OL can do before we judge them think now? Or are they still living in denial?
My hopes for this season had nothing to do with playoffs/record etc.... My hopes were for Watson to stay healthy behind this OL and keep learning how to read defenses.
So far so good on the injury front and he's really improving on reading defenses. So I'm very happy with how the season is going.
If he was still on the board, it would be a no brainer but he's slated to be gone in early RD1. In my mind, Dalton Risner, Kansas State is my next big pick on the board. Risner would be a definitive answer at Center should Martin get injured or demand more money than he's worth when his contract comes up. I think the play of Lamm could buy the Texans another draft before they need to address the position.
I still think the best move the Texans could make come draft day, trade back in RD1, unless someone of need has slid down the board. I'd love to see the Texans get an extra RD3 or RD4 pick for the trade back so it would give them 5 picks in the first 4 rounds. Defensive talent is going to be strong in this draft and the Texans have questions at CB.
I'd be good if the Texans could land both Hyatt and Risner, 2- CB's and a RB in the first 4 rounds.....that would be huge.
I'd also be fine if the Texans signed Bell for an immediate answer at the RB position. Could be nice to have a Bell - Foreman rotation in the backfield. Bell, is going to have full season off and therefore no physical abuse to his body or injury to come back from. Most everyone told me I was crazy for insisting the Texans sign Peterson...I wasn't wrong and I'm pretty certain, Bell would pay off big time in Houston. I still wouldn't mind landing Karan Higdon, Michigan in the draft to round out a potentially explosive backfield. It could be like that old 3-headed monster Shula created in Miami when he had Csonka, Kiick and Morris.....see the similarity....Bell, Foreman and Higdon?
To have an improved OL, a deep running game, improving TE's, then one of the better QB's and possibly one of the best WR groups in the NFL when healthy......damn, this could exciting in a hurry!!!!
I'm hoping to see Fulton at LG and Mancz at RG.It will be interesting see who gets snaps this week. Some rest and some coming back should be great. I'm more concerned with play calling than players. Argh!
Yes our line has been pass blocking better, but we are also leaving tight ends, and RBs in to block a lot more often then we should have to.
Funny you mention Griff, on one of Watson's sack, Griff actually did a good job blocking Chubb initially before leaking out as is the play design, Davenport clearly didn't know the play so Chubb got a straight line shot at Watson.
I thought BO'b did a good job against the Dolphins mixing up max protect vs not. Against Denver I didn't see a lot (may be bad memory). We did a lot more chipping though... probably every play.
That's possible. It's also possible Griffin wasn't supposed to leak out. Maybe he didn't know the play. Davenport was on the DE on the majority of the plays. Like Wade Phillips did, the DE opposite Von Miller played on to OT's outside shoulder.
It's also possible Griffen was supposed to release Chubb inside where Davenport could pick him up after passing off the DE.
Yes... could be possible that Davenport was supposed to slide under Chubb after he ran around Griffen... he did that successfully a couple of times.
I don't know what the break down was.
On that play I didn't assess blame to any one player. For all I know everyone did exactly what Watson barked out at the line... he might have screwed up.
All I know is Davenport has been involved in plays like this more than any other OL and if you dont know why do you even make a post like this. Tell you what watch Davenport and how he and the TE/RB chip and releaese into patterns 10-15 pass plays instead of watching the ball and get back to me with what you saw. This is what I do and we can have a discussion. Also check out how Davenport/Kelemte pass off stunts.
What I can tell you is Davenport has improved in the run game.
I wanted Fulton to play LG from time he signed; next to D would have helped him and made left side much stronger. Add to that Mancz and Lamm with TE Thomas on side we would run would make offense much better.I'm hoping to see Fulton at LG and Mancz at RG.
I can't believe the running game improvement wasn't down to Mancz playing RG, while Fulton probably is the best lineman we have, I think he has to try to move. Line play was greater than the sum of its parts when Mancz played RG.
But they're improving.
What I want to know is all of the posters that said lets see what this OL can do before we judge them think now? Or are they still living in denial?
My hopes for this season had nothing to do with playoffs/record etc.... My hopes were for Watson to stay healthy behind this OL and keep learning how to read defenses.
So far so good on the injury front and he's really improving on reading defenses. So I'm very happy with how the season is going.
It's also possible Griffen was supposed to release Chubb inside where Davenport could pick him up after passing off the DE.
Yes... could be possible that Davenport was supposed to slide under Chubb after he ran around Griffen... he did that successfully a couple of times.
I don't know what the break down was.
On that play I didn't assess blame to any one player. For all I know everyone did exactly what Watson barked out at the line... he might have screwed up.
I definitely stated I would give the OL time before passing judgement. In my eyes, there are pieces in place that could make the OL even better in 2019 both from the starters to the depth chart. Of course, making that next step in success plausible will be what Gaine does in the draft and if he can land the right prospects to continue the growth.
I definitely stated I would give the OL time before passing judgement. In my eyes, there are pieces in place that could make the OL even better in 2019 both from the starters to the depth chart. Of course, making that next step in success plausible will be what Gaine does in the draft and if he can land the right prospects to continue the growth.
Agreed, but how long before we can say these guys suck?
Scape goat overrode any factor of patience.
The left side is still in question....if O'Brien and Devlin would pull their collective heads from one another arses, they would roll with C, Martin; RG, Mancz; RT, Lamm for the rest of the season. I would try Rankin at LG or at least let him split time with Kelemete. I think with Mancz and Lamm handling the right side.....this just may buy some time at RT. This would mean draft a RT in the 2020 and let Lamm and possibly Henderson (ST) handle the position in 2019.
Agreed, but how long before we can say these guys suck?
Martin has had a tough time holding back or pushing on, especially against decent NTs.........a definite residual of his history of 2 high ankle sprain/fractures. After such injuries, strength becomes an unavoidable chronic problem.The left side is still in question....if O'Brien and Devlin would pull their collective heads from one another arses, they would roll with C, Martin; RG, Mancz; RT, Lamm for the rest of the season. I would try Rankin at LG or at least let him split time with Kelemete. I think with Mancz and Lamm handling the right side.....this just may buy some time at RT. This would mean draft a RT in the 2020 and let Lamm and possibly Henderson (ST) handle the position in 2019.
Wow, that's depressing .... he never looked very powerful or athletic to me !Martin has had a tough time holding back or pushing on, especially against decent NTs.........a definite residual of his history of 2 high ankle sprain/fractures. After such injuries, strength becomes an unavoidable chronic problem.
Well if BOB thought a TE who is as poor at blocking as Griffin is should be 1 on 1 with a DE, then he should get fired on the spot lol. But judging by Davenport going inside having no one to block and essentially making us triple team their DT, I'm inclined to believe D just got the play wrong.
I think you, and others here, have been doing a pretty good job of doing that already!
I don't subscribe to PFF, but from the postings on here, I too was under that impression.
Wow, that's depressing .... he never looked very powerful or athletic to me !
I don't subscribe to PFF, but from the postings on here, I too was under that impression.
Wow, that's depressing .... he never looked very powerful or athletic to me !
it will be interesting if Mancz or Fulton gets time at center. If we get a good lead or Martin seems overwhelmed we could see a move. Regardless I am glad Fulton is back --Colvin also.But yet he's the starting center for the Texans when we know Mancz is very capable of playing that position.
Oh wait that's Rick Smith's doing, not the coach.
while I agree I think we might see Kareem Jackson in slot with Colvin replacing Wright on outside opposite Joseph. Reid is playing well with Badger at safety. Hoping we have huge lead allowing some plays for back ups like Jamerson, Bademosi, Ejiofor, Kalambayi and Carlos Watkins who seems to have disappeared.Colvin playing the slot could be a big upgrade.
Hopefully he's healthy that was a bad injury.
while I agree think we might see Kareem Jackson in slot with Colvin replacing Wright on outside opposite Joseph. Reid is playing well with Badger.Colvin playing the slot could be a big upgrade.
Hopefully he's healthy that was a bad injury.
Screwey posting occurs again despite allowing time for notes to post--sighwhile I agree think we might see Kareem Jackson in slot with Colvin replacing Wright on outside opposite Joseph. Reid is playing well with Badger.
while I agree think we might see Kareem Jackson in slot with Colvin replacing Wright on outside opposite Joseph. Reid is playing well with Badger.
because I think Colvin needs experience on outside as season progresses and this game would be good time.Why Jackson has been playing great on the outside and Colvin has a history of playing much better in the slot.
because I think Colvin needs experience on outside as season progresses and this game would be good time.
All Colvin has done since arriving here (besides being hurt) is get burned by receivers. I think Kareem will probably have to step in and fill that role as well.Colvin playing the slot could be a big upgrade.
Hopefully he's healthy that was a bad injury.
All Colvin has done since arriving here (besides being hurt) is get burned by receivers. I think Kareem will probably have to step in and fill that role as well.
All Colvin has done since arriving here (besides being hurt) is get burned by receivers. I think Kareem will probably have to step in and fill that role as well.
Can KJax play 2 spots at 1 time?
Have they cloned him during the bye week?