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infantrycak said:
Don't disparage a good blue cheese (my favorite). I don't think they're related to Alfred. They have some stank on them, something never said about him.

Total aside - had a blue cheese bison burger that was fantastic today. Perfectly cooked.
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That must've been at Hut's. That thing is pretty good. Hut's is where I was eating at halftime on days that the BBQ guy didn't show up at Brew Exchange.
 
infantrycak said:
Chared on the outside. Rare in the middle. I almost got angry at deer again and picked up my bow.
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I should explain 'angry.' Buddy Tomball and I used to hunt/fish anything that moved. We filled freezers - anyone who knew us was getting fish to deer.. And then we got old and he turned to me one day as I was dressing a deer (I think it was the forth of the day) 'you know I'm not angry like I used to be.'

I love hunting but I'm not angry anymore.
 
infantrycak said:
I should explain 'angry.' Buddy Tomball and I used to hunt/fish anything that moved. We filled freezers - anyone who knew us was getting fish to deer.. And then we got old and he turned to me one day as I was dressing a deer (I think it was the forth of the day) 'you know I'm not angry like I used to be.'

I love hunting but I'm not angry anymore.
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Somehow that makes perfect sense.
 
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Somehow that makes perfect sense.
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We take kids out 'hunting' now. It's really camping in the hill country. Tomball is the best. The boy could story tell Mark Twain. Outta the mouths of babes 'dad, can uncle Randy tell us a story? He's funnier than you,' And he is.
 
From HT.com
13 observations: Monday's OTAs
Posted Jun 6, 2016

John Harris Texans Analyst

The first day after the weekend provided us the opportunity to watch another Texans OTA practice. Again, no pads and no contact, yet competitive in nearly all aspects. Here are my observations from the day’s workout.

1. J.J. Watt noted last week that he hoped that he could get back on the field for practice some time before the end of this phase of the offseason. Monday was that day as Watt made his return to get some on the field work done.

2. On his very first rep of the day, Watt knocked down a pass as he has done so often in his career. He doesn’t really need to announce his presence with authority as Nuke LaLoosh once noted in Bull Durham so many years ago, but he did. Again.

3. Brock Osweiler continued to show how much more comfortable he is with this offense and leading that group on Monday. As we only see every third workout, it’s quite evident the work that he’s put in to make sure he’s on top of things. When he was decisive with his reads and made quick decisions, he got this offense flowing. He threw some darts. He threw with touch. It’s not perfect and he’ll tell you, as he did to the assembled media after practice, that there’s still a ton to work on before the season. But, the work he’s already done is paying dividends.

4. At one point during a goal line passing drill, Osweiler threw three straight touchdowns to three different pass catchers to end his reps during that drill.

5. Although it still takes a second seeing him in No. 21 (as opposed to No. 34), cornerback A.J. Bouye had one of the defense’s picks to end an early drill in practice.

6. In his press conference after practice, head coach Bill O’Brien noted the progress that Tom Savage has made and the difference in him year over year over year. That’s been clear watching Savage during OTAs. He appears to be so much more at ease than I can ever remember seeing him. The ball is coming out of his hand hot and on time. The level of comfort, to the untrained eye, seems much higher than it’s been since he’s been here “on campus.”

7. He hit wide receiver Jaelen Strong a number of times during practice on various types of throws. Savage is spinning it extremely well and Strong was a beneficiary throughout the workout.

8. There comes a point with all first year players when you can see the light start to go on. Things aren’t just a blur on a daily basis. As such, it definitely seems there’s a flicker of a light going on with Will Fuller. At Notre Dame, he made a living on deep throws and short catch and run screens. But, he’s showing much more than just that each and every day. He made an excellent catch for a touchdown in the far corner and followed that up with a catch at the back of the end zone for another touchdown on consecutive plays. Progress...that’s all you want from a rookie and he’s making it.

9. Another rookie that continued making an impression was F-TE Stephen Anderson. He’s gotten a ton of reps with a couple of tight ends out due to injury. With every single rep, he continued to shine in the passing game. What’s been consistent from the time I first watched film on him at Cal through today’s workout is his ability to get separation in the passing game. He has glue sticks for hands and comfortably catches the ball out away from his body. He might have the best hands on the team for a pass catcher not named DeAndre Hopkins. For rookies, though, it’s about consistency all the way throughout. When the pads come on, he’s got to prove he can continue to get open and make catches at the same rate. If he does that, he’s going to find a way to impact this offense in 2016.

10. The defense didn’t get a ton of turnovers in practice, but the coverage in team and 7-on-7 drills forced the Texans quarterbacks to scramble and throw the ball away a number of times. Considering the fact that there’s really no pass rush, the second and third level coverages have to be completely on point, and were, to be able to do just that.

11. One player’s progress that intrigues me is former Michigan State star safety Kurtis Drummond. As with most second and third year players, he’s much more comfortable in the defense and that shows when he’s out on the field. He always seems to be in the right spot in coverage and we’ve seen how physical he can be when he’s attacking the run from his safety spot. He’s going to be a player to definitely watch during training camp later in July.

12. I mentioned rookie wideout Tevin Jones last week and he made another couple of touchdown catches on Monday during the workout. Over the weekend, I just happened to have a couple of Memphis games on my watching calendar, including the win over Tulsa, in which he had four receptions for 77 yards and two touchdowns. Like Fuller, he’s more and more comfortable with each rep in practice.

13. Keith Mumphery held on for a tremendous catch in the back of the end zone on a throw from Brandon Weeden. The former Oklahoma State star signal caller also hit Anthony Denham a couple of times for catches.

The only thing better than seeing an OTA practice is seeing a second OTA practice this week. We’ll be back on Friday with more from the final OTA workout of 2016. Then, it’s on to minicamp, the last week of the Texans offseason.
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Vandermeer's View: 5 OTA Takeaways
Posted 8 hours ago
Marc Vandermeer @TexansVoice


It’s only June and there is a long way to go but here are five early takeaways from what we’ve been seeing at OTAs.

1. The offense is in its best shape of the O’Brien era
Even though new quarterback Brock Osweiler is probably still learning that we call an access road a ‘feeder,’ he certainly looks comfortable at the wheel of the offense. The collective work of all three QBs appears smoother than it did in ’15 and ’14. Tom Savage knows the system and Brandon Weeden, after performing well in short order late last season, has benefitted from the work.

2. There are some fast guys to work with
Everyone knows that Will Fuller is equipped with overdrive. But it’s also fun watching Tyler Ervin catching passes out of the backfield, turning them into nice gains. And undrafted rookie receiver Wendell Williams is one of those guys who looks fast standing still. I’ll put it this way, preseason games will be extra entertaining as the coaching staff gets to play with all these new toys. Don’t turn the dial in the second half. You’ll miss some fireworks from guys who might end up making big plays this year.

3. The defense should be ‘elite’
Go ahead and say it. It feels good. In the final nine games of 2015, the Texans were the best team in the NFL in points allowed (12.7) and yards per game (263). The key for 2016 will be to start the way they finished. They also completed 2014 on a hot streak on that side of the ball yet didn’t kick off the following campaign the way they wanted. It’ll be up to the coaches to make sure they hit the ground running. A much improved offense and special teams unit would be a huge boost to the D.

4. These aren’t your pre-2014 Texans
Only eight of the 22 starters will be from before the O’Brien era got started. That’s still a pretty high number but they’re all good players and in there for a reason. Make no mistake though, the bulk of this team will be from the last three drafts and the free agents picked up since 2014. The Texans need productive years from particularly the ’14 and ’15 draft choices to get to where they want to go. It’s encouraging that players like Xavier Su’a-filo, Alfred Blue, C.J. Fiedorowicz, Andre Hal, Jaelen Strong, Keith Mumphery, Kevin Johnson and Benardrick McKinney, to name a few, all played significant roles in the 7-2 finish.

Which leaves us with…

5. Jadeveon Clowney
His name will always be a conversation starter as the number one overall pick in the ’14 draft. He’s been out there from the get-go in OTAs and wants to have a big year. When he’s been on the field he’s made plays and will take up plenty of extra time in opposing offensive meeting rooms. It’s obvious he needs to stay healthy. When he does, watch out.
 
Texans' Will Fuller, Braxton Miller proving to be quick studies
By Aaron Wilson

Published 5:01 pm, Thursday, June 9, 2016

That's especially true for the wide receiver position in the Texans' offense.

The Texans drafted Notre Dame wide receiver Will Fuller in the first round and Ohio State wide receiver Braxton Miller in the third round.

Both have proven to be quick studies, but still have a lot to absorb as the Texans finish up organized team activities this week and hold a mandatory full-team minicamp next week to wrap up practice sessions before training camp.

Fuller has flashed his 4.28 speed and athleticism and an ability to operate on special teams.

A converted quarterback and former Big Ten Offensive Player of the Year. Miller has a limited background at wide receiver. However, he's run some sharp routes and has displayed an ability to run after the catch and elude defenders.

What the rookies are doing in learning the playbook and how it's orchestrated on the field a difficult task, though, acknowledged Pro Bowl wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins.

“This offense is not an offense that you can just come off the street and learn," Hopkins said. "You have to put in a lot of work. I have to give credit to the offensive staff and the staff in general for drafting guys that have high football IQs that can come in and learn this offense at such a fast paced. Just basically stay after it.

"Those guys know once they go out there the first weekend and make mistakes that it’s embarrassing. They don’t want that to happen again. They take self-ownership to put in extra time themselves."
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The Houston Texans To Hold Joint Practices With the New Orleans Saints

SOTT Staff
Yesterday at 4:31 PM


The Houston Texans to host the New Orleans Saints in joint practices prior to their preseason game.

The Houston Texans will continue to try to get majority of their work in prior to the preseason scheduled games. News came out earlier this week that the Texans would be traveling to San Francisco to hold joint practices with the 49ers prior to playing them in the first week of the preseason. Now the Texans will host the New Orleans Saints in joint practices prior to their August 20th preseason game.

The Texans will practice against the Saints at the Methodist Training Center which will more than likely be treated as game work for majority of the Texans veterans and starters.

Coach Bill O'Brien continues to push for joint practices during training camp in controlled situations to preserve his roster. Getting good work in is O'Brien's number one priority and this will lead to many of the Texans big named players limited work during preseason games.
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Trying.
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Must. mellow. out....
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PDS ‏@PatDStat

Rookies Duke Thomas and Cleveland Wallace also had some plus plays in coverage today.

Braxton Miller is slowly catching up to the learning curve. He is a tough cover 1-on-1. He gets in and out of breaks quick and creates space.

Quintin Demps was very active today. A.J. Bouye and Brian Cushing covered well when tested.

Short but good paced practice to end OTAS for the #Texans. Jaelen Strong and Braxton Miller had solid days.
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Anthony Weaver returns to Texans in different role
Having experienced ups and downs as a player, new defensive line coach sees 'problems before they happen'
By Aaron Wilson

June 10, 2016

Hustling from drill to drill while barking out instructions, Anthony Weaver still carries an imposing frame and aggressive nature from his old job with the Texans as a starting defensive lineman.

Once responsible for bull-rushing blockers at the line of scrimmage during his three seasons in Houston and seven seasons in the NFL, Weaver is now tasked with imparting knowledge to the Texans' defensive line.

Hired by the Texans in January after coaching the Cleveland Browns' defensive line the previous two seasons, Weaver's personality, playing background and size make him extremely relatable to his players. He comes with a strong reputation for connecting well with players and being a good teacher of fundamentals.

"A lot of the struggles in this profession and the highs, too, I've experienced, and, because of that, I can see a lot of problems before they happen," said Weaver, who had 260 tackles and 151/2 sacks with the Baltimore Ravens and Texans. "It's always a good attribute to have as a coach."

Paying his dues

Since retiring from the NFL after the 2008 season with the Texans, Weaver has been building his coaching acumen.

Starting out as a graduate assistant at Florida, Weaver coached the linebackers at North Texas for one year before landing defensive line coaching jobs under his former Baltimore coach, Rex Ryan, with the New York Jets and Buffalo Bills. He worked for Mike Pettine, another former Ravens assistant coach, in Cleveland.

Now, he's coaching three-time NFL Defensive Player of the Year J.J. Watt.

"I love it, I love it," Weaver said. "All the guys do is work. When you have that type of attitude, it makes it easy to come out here and coach. They're tremendously hard workers, very talented.

"I have high expectations for the group. Obviously, you come in with that when you have one of the best defensive players in the world. Outside of him, I have so much respect for how the other guys are working."

Worries about finishers

The authenticity of having a coach who has played the game and the same position resonates with Watt.

"It's been great," Watt said. "We really enjoy playing with him every day. He's a coach that makes you want to come to work every day. He makes it fun. He's got a lot of knowledge. You enjoy the meetings, you enjoy practice. It's a lot of fun out there.

"We're really having a great time with Weav."

Weaver is Watt's third defensive line coach, following Paul Pasqualoni and Bill Kollar.

"I've had three coaches who have been great," Watt said. "Kollar is Kollar. He's fiery, feisty, he got a lot out of me. He's a great coach. Paul last year was a very good coach. He's been around for a very long time. Now, Weaver who has obviously played in the league and has a lot of experience, so it's great."

One of the biggest priorities for Weaver and defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel is identifying a new starting right end to replace Jared Crick, who signed as a free agent with the Denver Broncos.

The Texans have been evaluating Devon Still, Christian Covington, Jeoffrey Pagan and Brandon Dunn at right end. Ultimately, the Texans may utilize more of a rotation than most NFL defenses unless someone gains a firm grip on the job.

"A lot of guys are concerned about the starters, but I don't worry about the starters," Weaver said. "I worry about who's finishing games. Who are going to be the finishers and show in the fourth quarter? Starters is for that nameplate. Who cares about that? Everybody will play."

When in doubt, the Texans can lean on Watt.

Weaver has ideas on how to help Watt perform even better, but he isn't interested in dramatically changing anything about an ultra-productive defender who's already being characterized as a future Hall of Fame selection.

"It's a joy quite frankly because he loves ball," Weaver said of coaching Watt. "That's the type of people you love to be surrounded by, who oozes that every single day we're out there. The struggle with him is he wants to take every single rep, and we have to divvy those reps up a little bit. But that's a good problem to have.

"You've got a guy who plays at that level, you don't change him. You help him where you can. I'm definitely not going to change the process. If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

'Coach on the field'

Although Weaver, 35, has been coaching since 2010, the native of Saratoga Springs, N.Y., is just one year older than five-time Pro Bowl nose tackle Vince Wilfork. Wilfork provides a massive two-gapping presence in the middle of the Texans' 3-4 defense.

"It's awesome," Weaver said. "It's like having a coach on the field. The thing about Vince is he has a tremendous amount of passion for the game and he's not afraid to share it with the guys. It's one thing to hear it from a coach. When you can hear it from a guy who's had success from a guy who's been in the league for this long, it means a lot."
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Tania Ganguli ESPN Staff Writer
A day before starting their mandatory minicamp, the Texans claimed defensive back Terrance Mitchell off waivers after the Dallas Cowboys released him. Mitchell was originally a seventh-round pick in 2014. He played in three games for the Cowboys last season and was reportedly getting some time at safety during organized team activities.
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He is naturally a CB. Both Charles James and Kevin Johnson are taking a curiously long time to get back on the practice field. Leonard tears a hamstring. Lonnie Ballentine still missing practice following very serious multiple knee ligament tears and dislocation injury ending his season with surgery last Oct. JJo is still nursing a "minor" knee problem which required "minor" arthroscopic surgery this offseason.........but he was already reported to be running over a month ago.
 
From DallasNews.com:
Parting ways with Mitchell was a somewhat surprising move considering how highly Cowboys coach Jason Garrett spoke of him the previous week. Mitchell, who played corner in three games for the Cowboys last season, had been getting some organized team activity reps at safety.

"He's got a good feel and instinct for the game," Garrett said. "He has a lot of physical traits that would make you think he could play safety. "
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Actually there was a log jam at CB and that's why the Cowboys experimented with him at safety during OTAs. But probably in big part the new direction that the makeup of their DBs have taken is due to the appearance of a new DB coach.
 
New Texans lineman Jeff Allen displays feisty streak
By Aaron Wilson

Published 6:35 pm, Monday, June 13, 2016


Texans offensive guard Jeff Allen squared off with gritty outside linebacker John Simon during an organized team activity last week as tempers flared.\

The combatants were quickly separated as neither man backed down during a short, intense confrontation.

It served notice, though, to his new teammates what Allen is all about.

Allen arrived in Houston via a four-year, $28 million contract. And his feisty reputation built with the Kansas City Chiefs followed the Chicago native.

One of the reasons the Texans targeted Allen as the replacement for right guard Brandon Brooks was the edge and physical presence he brings to the game. Texans offensive line coach Mike Devlin wanted an injection of toughness, and Allen fit that job description.

“I think I’m relentless," Allen said. "I go out there every day, every practice, every game and I give my all. I try to do that and show my teammates that.”

Allen has remained true to his blue-collar roots. The former Illinois standout credits his upbringing for giving him resolve on the football field.

“Growing up, it was kind of tough," Allen said. "When it comes to football, it’s a game. I go out there and have fun. Anytime there is a situation that has to do with adversity, it doesn’t bother me.”

Going back to his college days, Allen hasn't been shy about rolling up his fists. Even with his friend and former college roommate Whitney Mercilus, a Texans outside linebacker.

“Man, they were heated," Mercilus said of his college days competing against Allen. "We got into a couple scuffles. He’d be pulling me by my jersey I’d be like, ‘Hey bro, chill. I’m coming after you next play.’ So it’d be stupid things like that.”

Allen played through a lot of pain with the Chiefs, limping through entire games when needed.

Now, the former Chiefs second-round draft pick is healthy and learning a new system with the Texans.

“You don’t ever want to be the guy getting bullied,” Allen said. “You’ve got to take on that personality."
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A play-maker for Oregon, Mitchell was dinged by a 4.63 40-yard dash at the Combine. An "off" zone corner, Mitchell's short arms (30 1/8") and small hands (8 1/2") could limit him to the slot and special teams in the NFL.

When you first look at him, Terrance Mitchell has good size at 5'11" and 190 lbs. He gained a reputation as a playmaker in college, but concerns cropped up for him after he ran a 4.63 and measured out with short arms (30 1/8 inches) and small hands (8 1/2 inches) and questions regarding his physicality that he would be relegated to only the slot and STs at the NFL level.
 
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I wouldn't mind seeing a rebirth of the Greatest Show on Turf right here in Houston!!
 
Strong lost down to 211 by the beginning of TC in 2015, then bounced around 217 later in the year. Most sources are noting his weight now at ~197.
 
It concerns me when people make drastic changes to their body shape/size.

That is quite an adjustment to make in how your body moves and feels.
 
kiwitexansfan said:
It concerns me when people make drastic changes to their body shape/size.

That is quite an adjustment to make in how your body moves and feels.
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It's healthy if done right. I started running this year and lost 20 lbs in two months. Most people hardly notice the change. I'll hit the gym soon and gain back 10 lbs in a month. There's a lot of fluxuation in water weight when you weight train.
 
htowntexans1985 said:
Rookies got their 1st taste of Houston heat today. Heat index was in the 100s.
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Which is good because now they know what they will have to face in August after being off for a month and a half. I'm sure the coaching staff is telling them this is what you are gonna face in TC so advise to you is don't wander too far from Houston between now and then for your conditioning in prep for TC.
 
15 observations: Wednesday's minicamp
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/a...minicamp/7ebb8e7a-9123-48d3-aa09-55010a037dc5

1. Speed and quickness change everything. The off-season emphasis on offensive speed and explosiveness is evident to those of us that have watched this Texans offense over the years. I’ve covered the Texans since 2007 and, even at this point, this unit can play faster and react quicker than any unit that I can remember. It’s not perfect and won’t be, but the change is evident and will become even more so once the pads go on during training camp.

2. During an early “move the chain” period of team drills,

Brock Osweiler spread the ball around to nearly all of his personnel. He hit Braxton Miller, then he found Jaelen Strong. Then, Osweiler literally flicked one out to Strong for a first down. I remarked to Marc Vandermeer that I’m wasn’t totally sure how he even got that ball out of his hand. He, then, threw to tight end Stephen Anderson for a key first down to keep the drive alive. It was efficient and effective down the field.

3. Notice a name I didn’t mention? Well, after a pair of penalties (yes, there are refs at practice frequently), the Texans moved backwards a bit. No one panicked because once the Texans are on the other side of the 50 it’s DeAndre Hopkins time. Right on cue, Osweiler finished the drill by launching one into the end zone. Hop went up and snagged the ball right off the top of the defensive back's helmet for a touchdown. The offense erupted with excitement, but we’ve all seen him do THAT before. But, it’ll never be taken for granted; Hop is truly special and we all get to watch him do that each and every Sunday.

4. In essence, once the offense got backed up a bit after the penalties, it was “when in doubt, go to Hop.” Boom. TD.

5. We’ll take a break in the action for the team’s tackling circuit. I hope that’s something they do consistently throughout the year. Okay, break’s over.

6. Rookie wideout Will Fuller made the best catch we’ve seen him make in the days we’ve been able to observe practice. Osweiler threw one to the sideline where Fuller had the defensive back on his hip. As the ball got there, Fuller snatched it away for the first down catch. That catch...if he can make that catch repeatedly, it’s going to be really tough to stop him.

7. Braxton Miller continued to show his growth as a receiver. Coach O’Brien and many others have talked about how the lack of pads limits the overall scope of practice. But, it also impacts Miller too. There were numerous times when the coaches would blow the whistle to stop a play when Miller was approached by a defensive back. With pads on? Miller would’ve shaken a few defenders. That’s one of the things I can’t wait to see once training camp starts.

8. Safety Antonio Allen is a guy I haven’t discussed much this off-season but if he continues making plays like he did during a team passing drill, look out. He was in the middle of the field and leapt for a pass thrown seemingly well over his head. He snatched the throw out of the air for the interception and took off the other direction. Allen channeled his inner Jumpman, something that would make Drake and Future very proud.

9. The safety position might have been a question heading into the off-season but after bringing Quintin Demps back, signing Antonio Allen, seeing the growth of Kurtis Drummond and drafting K.J. Dillon, the fight for the spot opposite Andre Hal is going to be one of the training camp’s most fierce battles.

10. Osweiler threw a gem to rookie Anderson similar to the one that he threw yesterday. Man, talk about touch, whoo, that was nice. Anderson sprinted right through the catch and the rock fell right into his hands for a first down catch.

11. There’s something about the end zone that Jaelen Strong must love. He had 14 catches last year and three of them went for touchdowns in 2015 (all against the Colts, mind you). Throughout most of OTA/minicamp, Strong has seemingly made more touchdown grabs than anyone. His first today was on a pseudo off-schedule throw from Osweiler. But, his best catch was the one he picked right off the helmet of a defensive back near the back corner of the end zone. Some media were shielded from the catch and started commenting how Hopkins made a great catch. It was actually Strong, shhhhh, don’t tell anyone.

12. The last play to end the team red zone/goal line drill was a flat route to Lamar Miller. Osweiler threw right to the pylon, seemingly out of Miller’s reach. But, the Texans running back reached out and snagged it out of the air for a touchdown.

13. That last catch seemed to symbolize the entire day. It was an impressive display of hands catches today and few balls hit the turf throughout various team drills.

14. Outside linebacker John Simon knocked away a pass during team drills and nearly hustled to come up with the catch off the deflection. With a few linebackers missing practice throughout the offseason, Simon has taken advantage of the opportunities to get a ton of reps at a position he’s still learning after four years of playing 4-3 defensive end at Ohio State.

15. Fellow outside linebacker Eric Lee, a rookie from USF, knocked down a pass as well and got some kudos from the coaching staff. He’s one long and tall drink of water with some athleticism and he’s worth watching come training camp time.
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Texans' Duane Brown remains on schedule to return for season opener
http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/...own-remains-on-schedule-to-return-8215147.php

The Texans are hoping left tackle Duane Brown can return during training camp. At worst, he'll be able to practice before the season and be ready for the opener against Chicago.

"Duane's a leader," O'Brien said. "Duane has been in every meeting. Once he gets his rehab done, he comes out for the team portion of practice. He's talking to the young guys behind the huddle. He's talking to Brock (Osweiler) about maybe some adjustment that he made during the play.


"I think in some ways for guys that are that many years (ninth season) in the league, to have a spring where maybe they're observing, I think it helps guys like that when they're at that stage of their career."
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I know I am over reacting but I think team should not cancel any practice time. I've got Bob McNair on speed dial, Just going to give him a ringy dingy.
 
badboy said:
I know I am over reacting but I think team should not cancel any practice time. I've got Bob McNair on speed dial, Just going to give him a ringy dingy.
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You are right. Any time you do that you get complacent.
 
Seegara said:
You are right. Any time you do that you get complacent.
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I get it, the heat wears players down quickly but even classroom time is valuable. Guys should get some treatment too. I hope that's what it ended up instead of a see you next month thing.
 
PapaL said:
I get it, the heat wears players down quickly but even classroom time is valuable. Guys should get some treatment too. I hope that's what it ended up instead of a see you next month thing.
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I moved drilling rigs in the sun 13 hours a day for 7 years, I bet they'll be ok.....
 
badboy said:
I know I am over reacting but I think team should not cancel any practice time. I've got Bob McNair on speed dial, Just going to give him a ringy dingy.
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Seegara said:
You are right. Any time you do that you get complacent.
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Depends on how it was framed. If O'Brien/RAC thought everything they wanted to see done had been accomplished - therefore the guys earned that day off - then I'm good with that "reward". Holding practice just because "I'm the coach and I say so" can also result in "what's the point" attitude from the players. While hard work, recognized and rewarded yields more hard work from the players not complacency.
 
ObsiWan said:
Depends on how it was framed. If O'Brien/RAC thought everything they wanted to see done had been accomplished - therefore the guys earned that day off - then I'm good with that "reward". Holding practice just because "I'm the coach and I say so" can also result in "what's the point" attitude from the players. While hard work, recognized and rewarded yields more hard work from the players not complacency.
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I have no idea what the Pats and BB do, or the Seahawks and Carroll do, but I would try to emulate what they do.

Seems like with a new QB and a new system every practice is very important. Otherwise the Osweiler missing the white house thingy was all a load of crap.
 
steelbtexan said:
I have no idea what the Pats and BB do, or the Seahawks and Carroll do, but I would try to emulate what they do.

Seems like with a new QB and a new system every practice is very important. Otherwise the Osweiler missing the white house thingy was all a load of crap.
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I've seen Belichick (on NFL fllms' "A Football Life") ending practices early or giving guys a day off from TC if they accomplished some challenge he threw at them. I'm pretty sure most coaches throw those "carrots" out to the team to keep things from getting too stale, too regimented and/or too boring. Also, I'm thinking any such strategy O'Brien is employing he very likely learned from Belichick anyway.
So bottom line: nothing to see here, move along.
 
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