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"Rebuilding" is tearing it down and starting over and over and over again. You don't want to get into a cycle of tearing down and rebuilding over and over. That's what happens with the Browns, the Bills, the Lions (until the last two or three years), and other franchises that have losing cultures.

"Retooling" is different and it's something that good franchises have to do all the time, especially if they have a down year like we are this year. "Retooling" entails keeping what works and bolstering the rest. For us, we need a new coach and given that we've lost so many games by 7 points or less, it's mostly a coaching problem. Obviously, as I've said before, depth matters too.

Hit on a coach, bolster the depth, and we'll be ready to rock n' roll.

The problem is that when we bring in a new coach, he's almost definitely going to rebuild. He's going to bring in different philosophies and different requirements and that's going to mean different players.

To re-tool, you rarely bring in a new coach. The Cowboys did it with Switzer because he just came in and continued with what Johnson had built without changing anything. To re-tool with a new coach, you generally promote someone within the existing group of coaches that are with the team.

The Ravens have been able to keep a consistent culture because they've brought in coaches and promoted from within instead of going out and bringing new coaches in. The Steelers have done the same thing when they promoted Cowher from within but they also brought Tomlin in from the outside but they kept their existing group of coordinators.

We're going to get a brand new HC and he's going to bring in an entirely new compliment of coordinators and position coaches. And that means new philosophies and new players and that's a re-build.
 
I guess we'll just have to see what happens. Maybe we don't promote someone from within but bring someone with similar on-field philosophies? I hope so, anyway. I think what we do generally works very well for us and that it was "the little things" that were causing us to lose games. Get someone who will shore that up while keeping the same basic ideas and I think that'll be best.
 
I think folks are getting too wrapped around the whole re-building or re-tooling. This is not the NFL of past. With the correct staff/management you can turn things around rather quickly in comparison in to past years when you were looking at a multiple year process. Granted if our management is that efficient remains to be seen.

Free agency is the biggest reason. That changed the landscape of teams talking a few years to becoming competitive again. There is also the development of young players that come into the NFL. Many are seeming more ready for today's game than when you generally found yourself waiting at least 3 years to get production in previous times.

So yeah I'd sit and wait and see who comes in and what direction they take. There are several examples of teams who had poor seasons (some multiple bad years) that got things turned around the next year or at least became competitive.
 
What I don't get is why Uncle Bob doesn't understand that rebuilds don't need to take 4-6 years. Maybe it's the word "rebuild" that makes him think it's a long-term project. Teams around us rebuild in 1-2 years and that's not paint and wheels, that's aggressively retooling the roster.

Texans can do it. They just need to get out of tortoise mode for once in their existence.

Like who? I've not seen a total "rebuild that didn't take 4-6 years to get to a sustainable, playoff level of football.

Before you point to the Colts, that wasn't a rebuild, that was a retool. They swapped out a QB and a couple of other pieces and went back to work.

Now the Niners' transformation was a complete rebuild that took the better part of the 21st century to accomplish.

You could argue that the Falcons accomplished a rebuild but they have only gotten to where we kinda thought we were; playoff-capable if the breaks don't go against us.
 
The problem is that when we bring in a new coach, he's almost definitely going to rebuild. He's going to bring in different philosophies and different requirements and that's going to mean different players.

To re-tool, you rarely bring in a new coach. The Cowboys did it with Switzer because he just came in and continued with what Johnson had built without changing anything. To re-tool with a new coach, you generally promote someone within the existing group of coaches that are with the team.

The Ravens have been able to keep a consistent culture because they've brought in coaches and promoted from within instead of going out and bringing new coaches in. The Steelers have done the same thing when they promoted Cowher from within but they also brought Tomlin in from the outside but they kept their existing group of coordinators.

We're going to get a brand new HC and he's going to bring in an entirely new compliment of coordinators and position coaches. And that means new philosophies and new players and that's a re-build.


Nope, this philosophy is garbage and the quicker Texan fans realize it the better we will all be. It doesn't take years to rebuild in todays NFL. Ask the Eagles, Chiefs, Miami, Detroit and Arizona. All picked top 10 last year and are playing for playoff spots. Todays NFL is crazy and you can easily flip a roster and coaches and become competitive the next year. Im still convinced 2015 will be our super bowl year. Take next year to improve and the 2nd year with new coaches and players we make our run.
 
I predict we go with Penn State Bill O'brien as head coach.
Trade down from the 1st pick and go with OLB Anthony Barr UCLA.
Trade a pick for Patriots QB Ryan Mallet. Obrien was the OC when they drafted him.
McNair will do his due diligence on the HC and it will lead to O'Brien with a big endorsement from Robert Kraft.
 
I think folks are getting too wrapped around the whole re-building or re-tooling. This is not the NFL of past. With the correct staff/management you can turn things around rather quickly in comparison in to past years when you were looking at a multiple year process. Granted if our management is that efficient remains to be seen.

Free agency is the biggest reason. That changed the landscape of teams talking a few years to becoming competitive again. There is also the development of young players that come into the NFL. Many are seeming more ready for today's game than when you generally found yourself waiting at least 3 years to get production in previous times.

So yeah I'd sit and wait and see who comes in and what direction they take. There are several examples of teams who had poor seasons (some multiple bad years) that got things turned around the next year or at least became competitive.

I get caught up in it because words have meanings. Just like some people are infuriatingly trying to remake "tanking" into a synonym for rebuilding. I'm all for accurate use of terms.
 
I predict we go with Penn State Bill O'brien as head coach.
Trade down from the 1st pick and go with OLB Anthony Barr UCLA.
Trade a pick for Patriots QB Ryan Mallet. Obrien was the OC when they drafted him.
McNair will do his due diligence on the HC and it will lead to O'Brien with a big endorsement from Robert Kraft.

This scenario seems plausible, but I don't like it.

Re-Tool/Re-Build/whatever... The common factors in successful ones are an effective head coach and choosing the right QB.

If we do choose another 3rd round backup QB that wasn't worthy of a 1st round pick again we better not give that MFer another 7+ years to show us what he can do (or what he can't).
 
Trade a pick for Patriots QB Ryan Mallet. Obrien was the OC when they drafted him.

Now OC's are controlling draft picks?

Anyway, why in the world would that make sense for either team? The Patriots gave a 3rd for him and he now has 3 years familiarity in their system. What is going to pry him away? What has he shown? - in just short of 3 seasons he has 1 completion, 1.
 
Now OC's are controlling draft picks?

Anyway, why in the world would that make sense for either team? The Patriots gave a 3rd for him and he now has 3 years familiarity in their system. What is going to pry him away? What has he shown? - in just short of 3 seasons he has 1 completion, 1.

the sheeeeet people on this site say :thisbig:
 
Mallett might not be a bad choice, though he's never really flashed in the preseason after all these years. Maybe if we end up cutting all three QBs on the roster and we can get Mallett for cheap to run the team while we coach up a rookie or let him heal in the case of Mett/Murray. I wouldn't see him as a QB of the future, though.
 
Now OC's are controlling draft picks?

Anyway, why in the world would that make sense for either team? The Patriots gave a 3rd for him and he now has 3 years familiarity in their system. What is going to pry him away? What has he shown? - in just short of 3 seasons he has 1 completion, 1.

No. I did not say he controlled any draft pick!
Anyway, he was the OC and the QB coach at the time that "THEY" drafted him and may have seen some potential to develop. He has not showed us anything but again he may have shown it to O'brien in practice. He will be going into the last year of his rookie deal after the season and Brady doesn't seems to be going anywhere anytime soon.
 
Agreed... That is why I was amazed when uncle Bob said this is not a rebuild, and had Smith sitting beside him. If you are going to take out the garbage, you take it all out and clean with bleach.

Personally I say we do our best to fix the O Line, and fill the many other holes we have instead of drafting a QB this year. 2015 QB prospects look much better to me.

IMHO, we should bring in a vet QB like Cutler, or Rivers, etc, and put the pieces in place for 2015 and make a move to get a top QB prospect then. Of course none of that will happen, but a guy can dream right?

What they should do for the long term health of the franchise isn't the Texans way. Repped
 
So some folks are really content to go through another season like this one to have a chance at the "heralded" QB draft class of 2015?

Because the guys coming out are stone cold locks right? Riiiight.

Cutler is dumpster juice and Rivers is having one of his best seasons so that definitely means SD is in a rush to get rid of him. SMH.

I'm not impressed enough with the so called blue chip OL coming out, let alone use the first pick on one. Screw it, trade down into the 20's, pick up a guard and get an extra 3rd round pick right? Brilliant.

Better than taking an overrated Bridgewater and suffering the consequences of that decision for another decade. Give me Clowney and fix the trenches this yr so that the 2015 QB pick will have a greater chance to succeed.

BTW, did't that dumpster juice Cutler take his undermanned team to a NFC championship game 2-3 yrs ago. Aren't they in 1st place in their division this yr? Yep, that's real dumpster juice.
 
Look at what Kansas City did in one season. They got themselves a new head coach (Andy Reid), and then went out and grabbed Alex Smith in a trade with the Niners.

They were the worst team in the NFL last year, and they went into the offseason looking for a new coach and new QB.

Now they are one of the better teams in the NFL. They may not have one of the tougher schedules this season, but they've played well. A lot of their pieces were on the team that went 2-14 the year before.

Not trying to draw too many parallels here between the Chiefs and the Texans, but I really think this team can be turned around quickly.

The two biggest items that need to be addressed (besides getting a coach)... getting a QB and adding a little depth to the team.
 
Look at what Kansas City did in one season. They got themselves a new head coach (Andy Reid), and then went out and grabbed Alex Smith in a trade with the Niners.

They were the worst team in the NFL last year, and they went into the offseason looking for a new coach and new QB.

Now they are one of the better teams in the NFL. They may not have one of the tougher schedules this season, but they've played well. A lot of their pieces were on the team that went 2-14 the year before.

Not trying to draw too many parallels here between the Chiefs and the Texans, but I really think this team can be turned around quickly.

The two biggest items that need to be addressed (besides getting a coach)... getting a QB and adding a little depth to the team.

I should point out that the Chiefs benefit from having the weakest schedule in the league; their success this year should be viewed in the context of how they perform over the next 2-4 years.
 
Hire Mack Brown and bring Vince Young in to start...................

Only a troll would find that remotely amusing.

Exremely Hilarious to Me!!!


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In any event, DREAD-(freakin)-HEAD should be named head coach with me as the "Manager of Scout of talent"....

It would be my duty to go out and scout, coordinate other scouts to bring in the finest of ALL talents out there.
 
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In any event, DREAD-(freakin)-HEAD should be named head coach with me as the "Manager of Scout of talent"....

It would be my duty to go out and scout, coordinate other scouts to bring in the finest of ALL talents out there.

TB scouting for talent for a football team? Yeah that'll work. Everyone knows the best football players hang out at the strip clubs...
 
Nope, this philosophy is garbage and the quicker Texan fans realize it the better we will all be. It doesn't take years to rebuild in todays NFL. Ask the Eagles, Chiefs, Miami, Detroit and Arizona. All picked top 10 last year and are playing for playoff spots. Todays NFL is crazy and you can easily flip a roster and coaches and become competitive the next year. Im still convinced 2015 will be our super bowl year. Take next year to improve and the 2nd year with new coaches and players we make our run.

It's not a philosophy. It's a reality. It doesn't matter if we ascribe to it or not, it just is.

I will be more than happy for our team to hit the jackpot and win the lottery and get all the right pieces in place after one season. And, yes, some teams do flip and win some games.

Chiefs: How many times have they rebuilt before they got it "right" with Reid this year? And... will this be sustainable success on their part?

Dolphins: Yeah. I remember them. They were the poster-child of the quick turnaround model we were supposed to follow... when SPARANO turned them around from a 1-15 team to an 11-5 team. How long did that last? One year? And then three years of below 500 ball before Philbin appears to have MAYBE turned it around? Maybe.

Detroit? Are they turned around? They may not even make the playoffs and how many different coaching staffs have they been through? How many random groupings of crap did they have to go through before hitting the jackpot?

The Eagles? OK. Maybe. But they could still lose their division to the COWBOYS. And if they don't win their division, they're not going to get in as a wildcard.

Arizona could be a good example of doing it right but the results aren't in, yet.

The teams you should be pointing at are the Niners, the Seahawks, the Saints, and the Patriots.
 
Look at what Kansas City did in one season. They got themselves a new head coach (Andy Reid), and then went out and grabbed Alex Smith in a trade with the Niners.

Look at what the Dolphins did in one season. They went from 1-15 to 11-5. THAT was a turnaround.

Of course, that was also against a last place schedule and after that they had three losing seasons and the coach that got them that turnaround was fired and they went in another direction.

The Chiefs may or may not be "turned around". One season does not a change in culture or turn-around make.
 
It is hard to read so much cynicism. I do understand it. However, particularly for those of you who ceased to believe in the Gary Kubiak train a few years ago, this is a time for optimism! The leaked list of candidates is a good list. I can not promise the best decision will be made, but it is certainly a possibility.

Also, we can argue back and forth about the state of the Texans' talent base. Other than a claim that we are bereft of talent (like we were in 2005), the truth will never be known. However, we do know that the following equation is well within the realm of possibility:

current talent + new coaching staff + off-season free agents and draft picks could = a 10-12 win season in 2015... We can know this because it similar turnarounds have happened for other teams in recent history (KC). Also, we know it is possible because the current roster is not missing a volume of talent from 2012's 12 win team greater than what could be replaced with our collection of draft picks and free agency potential... Perhaps circumstances were very kind to the Texans in 2012 and that was a big reason for their success... Still, circumstances could be kind again in 2014... Also, if the right coach is in place, fewer dominoes need to fall for a dramatic turnaround to occur.

Let's look at what could happen:

1. It is possible to likely (depending on your perspective) that the Texans will hire a better head coach than Kubiak.

2. Texans are in a great draft position, have all of their picks, and will also receive 2-3 compensatory draft picks somewhere between rounds (4-6).

3. The Texans will be focused on upgrading the QB position and their are a number of options/possibilities that could accomplish that.

4. The Texans are under the cap.. don't have to cut anyone in order to keep what they have and fill the roster with the draft and at least some lower-tier free agents.

5. The Texans could, if the front office and head coach desired, to carve out significant room under the cap and make dramatic changes to the veteran personnel through free agency (only 3 player contracts on the entire roster would have a greater cap hit in 2014 if the player was cut or traded than than their cost under the cap if the played for the Texans next year: Cushing, Hopkins, Swearinger)... This is a huge point! That means that the new coach could clean house with anyone and everyone on the roster, other than those three, and net cap savings by dumping them- the only issue would be the cost of their replacement. The point is, however, that the new coach has enormous freedom to alter the personnel as he sees fit, either to address locker room culture, poor play, etc... That is a very attractive situation for a new head coach. In 2006, Smithiak inherited a cap disaster. The team had unending dead money and huge dollars tied up into low performing and old veterans who were upside down in their contracts- meaning it was cheaper to keep a guy like Zac Weigert or Anthony Weaver around for $5 million a year than to cut him.

6. The Texans will have no worse than the 2nd pick in the draft... and, under this CBA, those are highly coveted picks because huge salaries and bonuses are no longer attached to those picks as they were before 2011. That means their pick will have greater trade value... Also, the consequences for the Texans if they miss on the pick do not cripple and haunt the team and the cap for years- only the missed opportunity to get a great player will hurt the team. (by the way, while Rick Smith's record in the draft is mixed, he has been great in round one- and has executed those picks much lower in the round.

7. Last but not least... The best argument for hopeful optimism right now is:

We're due! Right? Houston football fans are due to have lady luck smile on the team.... I just talked myself straight out of hopeful optimism and into arrogant certainty!! Texans are headed to the Superbowl next year! Reserve plane tickets and hotel room now for good rates.
 
"Rebuilding" is tearing it down and starting over and over and over again. You don't want to get into a cycle of tearing down and rebuilding over and over. That's what happens with the Browns, the Bills, the Lions (until the last two or three years), and other franchises that have losing cultures.

"Retooling" is different and it's something that good franchises have to do all the time, especially if they have a down year like we are this year. "Retooling" entails keeping what works and bolstering the rest. For us, we need a new coach and given that we've lost so many games by 7 points or less, it's mostly a coaching problem. Obviously, as I've said before, depth matters too.

Hit on a coach, bolster the depth, and we'll be ready to rock n' roll.
Would not rebuilding be rebuilding regardless of the years? In other words you can rebuild for one year or over and over.
 
It is hard to read so much cynicism. I do understand it. However, particularly for those of you who ceased to believe in the Gary Kubiak train a few years ago, this is a time for optimism! The leaked list of candidates is a good list. I can not promise the best decision will be made, but it is certainly a possibility.

Also, we can argue back and forth about the state of the Texans' talent base. Other than a claim that we are bereft of talent (like we were in 2005), the truth will never be known. However, we do know that the following equation is well within the realm of possibility:

current talent + new coaching staff + off-season free agents and draft picks could = a 10-12 win season in 2015... We can know this because it similar turnarounds have happened for other teams in recent history (KC). Also, we know it is possible because the current roster is not missing a volume of talent from 2012's 12 win team greater than what could be replaced with our collection of draft picks and free agency potential... Perhaps circumstances were very kind to the Texans in 2012 and that was a big reason for their success... Still, circumstances could be kind again in 2014... Also, if the right coach is in place, fewer dominoes need to fall for a dramatic turnaround to occur.

Let's look at what could happen:

1. It is possible to likely (depending on your perspective) that the Texans will hire a better head coach than Kubiak.

2. Texans are in a great draft position, have all of their picks, and will also receive 2-3 compensatory draft picks somewhere between rounds (4-6).

3. The Texans will be focused on upgrading the QB position and their are a number of options/possibilities that could accomplish that.

4. The Texans are under the cap.. don't have to cut anyone in order to keep what they have and fill the roster with the draft and at least some lower-tier free agents.

5. The Texans could, if the front office and head coach desired, to carve out significant room under the cap and make dramatic changes to the veteran personnel through free agency (only 3 player contracts on the entire roster would have a greater cap hit in 2014 if the player was cut or traded than than their cost under the cap if the played for the Texans next year: Cushing, Hopkins, Swearinger)... This is a huge point! That means that the new coach could clean house with anyone and everyone on the roster, other than those three, and net cap savings by dumping them- the only issue would be the cost of their replacement. The point is, however, that the new coach has enormous freedom to alter the personnel as he sees fit, either to address locker room culture, poor play, etc... That is a very attractive situation for a new head coach. In 2006, Smithiak inherited a cap disaster. The team had unending dead money and huge dollars tied up into low performing and old veterans who were upside down in their contracts- meaning it was cheaper to keep a guy like Zac Weigert or Anthony Weaver around for $5 million a year than to cut him.

6. The Texans will have no worse than the 2nd pick in the draft... and, under this CBA, those are highly coveted picks because huge salaries and bonuses are no longer attached to those picks as they were before 2011. That means their pick will have greater trade value... Also, the consequences for the Texans if they miss on the pick do not cripple and haunt the team and the cap for years- only the missed opportunity to get a great player will hurt the team. (by the way, while Rick Smith's record in the draft is mixed, he has been great in round one- and has executed those picks much lower in the round.

7. Last but not least... The best argument for hopeful optimism right now is:

We're due! Right? Houston football fans are due to have lady luck smile on the team.... I just talked myself straight out of hopeful optimism and into arrogant certainty!! Texans are headed to the Superbowl next year! Reserve plane tickets and hotel room now for good rates.
Texans hired a better coach than Capers, upgraded QB position from Carr, have been under cap and got high level FAs before.
As a Texans fan, I have been due for years.
 
one more loss locks in the #1 pick.

yay us. :kitten:

Not really. If we finish with 3 wins and Washington loses out with a total of three wins, The Rams with Washington's pick get the first pick based on Washington's weaker Strength of Schedule.

One more loss does lock us into a top 2 pick. We're a top 7 lock now.

Oops! Old news. Thorn already said this. I've got to stop posting before reading the entire thread.
 
So some folks are really content to go through another season like this one to have a chance at the "heralded" QB draft class of 2015?

Because the guys coming out are stone cold locks right? Riiiight.

Cutler is dumpster juice and Rivers is having one of his best seasons so that definitely means SD is in a rush to get rid of him. SMH.

I'm not impressed enough with the so called blue chip OL coming out, let alone use the first pick on one. Screw it, trade down into the 20's, pick up a guard and get an extra 3rd round pick right? Brilliant.

I like what you have to say and feel like this logic is lost on many.

2014 QB Class was supposed to be amazing just 9 months ago IIRC. Maybe it fell off a little, but when you have the 1st pick, it hasn't fallen off for you specifically.

I can already see the scenario where Lovie Smith comes in, we build an awesome O Line and Defense and still have another Rex Grossman clone throwing the football and we obviously get our ass handed to us again.

Enough with the O Line. What are we protecting?? One position changes franchises time and time again, yet we have gone through this "ride or die" approach with 2 mediocre to poor ones in our 12 year existence. Enough already.
 
I Guarantee that the Rams would find a trade partner should they get #1. Probably Cleveland.

Or the Jags, which could haunt us for many years to come

Better than taking an overrated Bridgewater and suffering the consequences of that decision for another decade. Give me Clowney and fix the trenches this yr so that the 2015 QB pick will have a greater chance to succeed.

BTW, did't that dumpster juice Cutler take his undermanned team to a NFC championship game 2-3 yrs ago. Aren't they in 1st place in their division this yr? Yep, that's real dumpster juice.

LOL, in 2010, he took an "undermanned" team to the NFC championship game where he scored 14 points and lost. 23 TDs and 17 turnovers w/ 3000 yards isn't really carrying an "undermanned" team IMO.

That year they had a top 5 defense in the NFL with that was constantly forcing turnovers and scoring off them. They haven't been to THE PLAYOFFS since. And he's missed extensive time (including that championship game after he threw a pick) and our backups have proved they don't have what it takes here in Houston.

Are we attributing this season's Bears' success to Cutler now? The record with him has been 5-3 and without him 3-3. Doesn't seem like a key cog to me. They also have a worse record than the Cardinals who are currently NOT in the playoffs, and are themselves just 1 game ahead of 2 others in division.

The guy isn't a dumpster fire, but he is nothing more than a strong arm, middle tier of the QBs in the NFL today. Sorry, but signing that guy to a 4 year contract does not impress me whatsoever.
 
Man, I sure hope they at least give Zimmer an interview. I know he doesn't fit McNair's ridiculous guidelines for the next head coach, but the dude deserves a looksee
 
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...The Steelers have done the same thing when they promoted Cowher from within...

Good post, but slight correction: Cowher wasn't on the Steelers' staff - he was hired from KC (where he was Schottenheimer's DC).

Hey, if the Steelers had adhered to McNair's unnecessarily restrictive criteria, they wouldn't have hired Cowher (since he had never been a head coach). Same for Tomlin.

Thank God the Steelers' FO is smarter than that.
 
Hey, if the Steelers had adhered to McNair's unnecessarily restrictive criteria, they wouldn't have hired Cowher (since he had never been a head coach).

Cowher is an anomaly who without 20/20 hindsight wouldn't be an obvious choice.

Job wanted - 35 year old with 7 years of coaching experience 3 as DC wants job as HC.
 
In a perfect world, I'd love to have Lovie Smith as head coach with Jason Garrett as offensive coordinator and Jim Schwartz as defensive coordinator. The last two names would have to be fired but it's possible.
 
In a perfect world, I'd love to have Lovie Smith as head coach with Jason Garrett as offensive coordinator and Jim Schwartz as defensive coordinator. The last two names would have to be fired but it's possible.

That would be an intriguing combination- I wouldn't mind seeing that either.
 
Cowher is an anomaly who without 20/20 hindsight wouldn't be an obvious choice....

So I guess Tomlin was an anomaly, too, since he was a coordinator for one whole season (and was never a head coach).

Andy Reid, Mike McCarthy and John Harbaugh are three more anomalies.

Seems more like teams sharp enough to spot young coaching talent.
 
In a perfect world, I'd love to have Lovie Smith as head coach with Jason Garrett as offensive coordinator and Jim Schwartz as defensive coordinator. The last two names would have to be fired but it's possible.

No thanks x3
 
After hearing the Texans had a 7 hour interview with Lovie Smith, I started thinking about the possibility on defense... It's interesting to consider how the Texans' defensive personnel would fit into Lovie's system.

Cushing would be ideal as the Mike LB. Cushing has the range, instincts, and playmaking ability in the pass game to play all three downs and cause problems for the offense... Cushing roaming the middle of the field every play is a good situation for the Texans.

Watt is interesting... Where would he play primarily? RDE, LDE, or 3 technique DT? He'd play all 3 but his best fit, for the health of the defense, is DT... If the Texans get a big NT... Watt inside with a guy like that would cause constant pocket problems for the QB, shutdown the interior run, and give nice, sharp edges to the DEs.

KJ and JJo would both excel in cover 2 principles- giving them many opportunities to make plays on the ball- also, highlighting KJ's physicality in run support.

D. Manning was drafted and played for Lovie... Lovie's hire would likely mean that Manning would stick around for his last contract year. Swearinger certainly has the skills and play-making instincts to do what Lovie asks of SS. He can blitz, run support, and has the speed and ball-hawking ability to play the umbrella coverage.

Earl Mitchell could be brought back as DT (3technique)... somewhat dependent on their plans for Watt.

Mercilus would fit very well as the strong side DE (or pretty well at RDE also)... Mercilus would look great in this defense, I think!

Brooks Reed-- likely cut. Texans could cut him for $1.5 million savings without any dead money. I don't think he fits well at either DE... His only possible spot would be Strong LB, and I think that is a stretch.

Jamison and Crick are both decent fits as depth, mainly because they can be used in multiple spots.

So, from my view, the Texans could transition well, and quickly, into Lovie's defense... Needs I see:

1. space-eating NT
2. speed rusher DE (either to start or two rotate in when Watt moves to DT)
3. WLB- (Sharpton and Mays are FAs) Lovie knows this position and can draft it and also fill it effectively with a veteran
4. SLB- (see above)


** I'm not sure whether Buoye or Harris could be the nickel CB... nor can I speak to Pleasant as the 3rd safety... but, given the cap room and the draft picks the Texans will have, a coach like Lovie can adequately fill these holes without much difficulty.

Most encouraging is that the core talent on the Texans' defense fit very well into what Lovie would do: Cushing, Watt, Mercilus, KJ, JJo, Swearinger... which is good, because the real issue with Lovie (magnified by the Texans situation at QB) is what will he put together on offense.
 
After hearing the Texans had a 7 hour interview with Lovie Smith, I started thinking about the possibility on defense... It's interesting to consider how the Texans' defensive personnel would fit into Lovie's system.

Cushing would be ideal as the Mike LB. Cushing has the range, instincts, and playmaking ability in the pass game to play all three downs and cause problems for the offense... Cushing roaming the middle of the field every play is a good situation for the Texans.

Watt is interesting... Where would he play primarily? RDE, LDE, or 3 technique DT? He'd play all 3 but his best fit, for the health of the defense, is DT... If the Texans get a big NT... Watt inside with a guy like that would cause constant pocket problems for the QB, shutdown the interior run, and give nice, sharp edges to the DEs.

KJ and JJo would both excel in cover 2 principles- giving them many opportunities to make plays on the ball- also, highlighting KJ's physicality in run support.

D. Manning was drafted and played for Lovie... Lovie's hire would likely mean that Manning would stick around for his last contract year. Swearinger certainly has the skills and play-making instincts to do what Lovie asks of SS. He can blitz, run support, and has the speed and ball-hawking ability to play the umbrella coverage.

Earl Mitchell could be brought back as DT (3technique)... somewhat dependent on their plans for Watt.

Mercilus would fit very well as the strong side DE (or pretty well at RDE also)... Mercilus would look great in this defense, I think!

Brooks Reed-- likely cut. Texans could cut him for $1.5 million savings without any dead money. I don't think he fits well at either DE... His only possible spot would be Strong LB, and I think that is a stretch.

Jamison and Crick are both decent fits as depth, mainly because they can be used in multiple spots.

So, from my view, the Texans could transition well, and quickly, into Lovie's defense... Needs I see:

1. space-eating NT
2. speed rusher DE (either to start or two rotate in when Watt moves to DT)
3. WLB- (Sharpton and Mays are FAs) Lovie knows this position and can draft it and also fill it effectively with a veteran
4. SLB- (see above)


** I'm not sure whether Buoye or Harris could be the nickel CB... nor can I speak to Pleasant as the 3rd safety... but, given the cap room and the draft picks the Texans will have, a coach like Lovie can adequately fill these holes without much difficulty.

Most encouraging is that the core talent on the Texans' defense fit very well into what Lovie would do: Cushing, Watt, Mercilus, KJ, JJo, Swearinger... which is good, because the real issue with Lovie (magnified by the Texans situation at QB) is what will he put together on offense.

Cushing actually probably fits Lovie's Tampa 2 better as the SLB, depending on his mobility after he returns from injury. Watt would be the 3 tech. Mitchell would actually be the ideal type of NT. That defense doesn't use a big space eating type in the middle.

I think we would be looking at:

SDE - Reed, Jamison
DT - Watt, Crick
NT - Mitchell
WDE - Mercilus
SLB - Cushing
MLB - N/A
WLB - N/A
CB - Joseph
CB - Jackson
FS - Manning
SS - Swearinger

A lot of holes there. But that will be the story regardless of who the next coaching staff is.
 
Cushing actually probably fits Lovie's Tampa 2 better as the SLB, depending on his mobility after he returns from injury. Watt would be the 3 tech. Mitchell would actually be the ideal type of NT. That defense doesn't use a big space eating type in the middle.

I think we would be looking at:

SDE - Reed, Jamison
DT - Watt, Crick
NT - Mitchell
WDE - Mercilus
SLB - Cushing
MLB - N/A
WLB - N/A
CB - Joseph
CB - Jackson
FS - Manning
SS - Swearinger

A lot of holes there. But that will be the story regardless of who the next coaching staff is.

I disagree. I think Cushing would be an excellent SLB... however, he fits in all 3 positions... and, his combination of versatility, playmaking, and instincts would make him most valuable at the Mike.

I agree with you about Watt, but I'm not sure about the player-organizational dynamics... would the team "do that" to Watt?

I'm pretty sure Lovie likes "0 technique" NTs... Am I wrong about that?
 
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