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What does Keenum have to do to convince you he's the guy going forward?

legacy_gt said:
yeah right, which keenum fan has said he's the next drew brees?

look at schaub's play the last 4 games, and Tj Yates, if Keenum can do better than that and put the fight against the best D in football, Im hopeful of the kid's future.
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If keenum can manage to not throw a pick six and not go down at the site of an oncoming defender faster than a cheap hooker or manage to not wilt or retreat like matt schmuck when flushed out of the pocket then he's ahead of the game.
 
Touched up the one I made last night. Trying to keep it under 30k.

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Nitrofish said:
Wait, you guys have gone on and on about how Gary is too loyal, and in the good ol' boy network, then you say Case earned his spot? Can't have it both ways. He is only here because he is the hometown boy just like Kubiak, and it does not mean he would have gotten a chance anywhere else either. Just more hope and wishful thinking I suspect.
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LOL, what are you talking about now..

Case was basically brought in as a UDFA flier/camp arm... that's not exactly just keeping him here, because he's a hometown boy

and Sorry, it's not really "wishful thinking or hoping" to assume another team would of took a flier on him if we didn't when plenty of "system QBs who had high production in college" (which is what Keenum was pegged as) get shots ALL THE TIME to participate in NFL camps and gasp.. some even make the rosters

Colt Brennan
Chase Daniel
Kellen Moore
Graham Herrell
(should I continue)

:rolleyes: yeah, I'm really stepping out on a ledge to assume that another team would of signed him as a UDFA and brought him in to their camp his rookie season. Hell if Stephen "Fing" McGee could of hung around as long as he did and get picked up by multiple teams.. a team would've taken a flier on Case Keenum. Just because he was undrafted does not mean Kubiak was his only shot to get a try out... and he did earn every opportunity he's been given here. All we did was give him a invite.. he then earned his way to the practice squad, then in his second season he made so much improvement he made it impossible for the Texans to risk sneaking him through waivers and EARNED a roster spot.. but I guess that's because he's just a hometown boy right?


P.S.

I'm really getting sick of people acting like there's some cult following of Case here. To a certain extent I'm sure there's UofH fans rooting for him. I'm not a UofH fan. I'm a Texan fan who's watched option A and B play like absolute hammered dog crap. Especially option B, who's completely healthy.. at least option A has a probable chronic injury to blame his diminished skills on. (Diminished skills.. as in won't return to form)

It seems like every time anybody even mentions Case you get your undies in a bundle, because your precious Schaub is threatened. Case may not be the answer and right now nobody knows if he is or isn't, but I do know that Schaub and Yates are NOT and never will be. Yates is a fringe career backup and Schaub is a 32 yo QB, who's body is much older than his actual age due to injuries and his already lack of athleticism. His best days are clearly behind him. So yes, I want to see Case get a shot and if that doesn't work out, then the future answer is NOT on this roster.. draft a QB high in next years draft
 
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after getting the news that keenum would be 3rd.

“I wouldn’t say I’m disappointed. I’d say I’m never really content with where I’m at, Keenum said. “I’m always striving to be better, to keep getting ahead.”

Keenum, the former University of Houston quarterback, said that being a backup quarterback in this league is a great challenge.

“I want to do whatever is best for this team,” Keenum said. “I know my role now. You have to be ready to go when your name’s called so you’re still preparing like a starter, so I’m preparing like I’m going to start this week.”


you'll get your shot keenum. showtime is near.
 
Carr Bombed said:
... I'm a Texan fan who's watched option A and B play like absolute hammered dog crap. Especially option B, who's completely healthy.. at least option A has a probable chronic injury to blame his diminished skills on. (Diminished skills.. as in won't return to form)...
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Understatement of the year candidate.
 
For me it will be touchdowns. Lead some touchdown scoring drives. I have had my fill of stats from this position. I want some results that matter which would be actually touchdowns, not a ton of fieldgoals (if Bullock even makes the damn thing). I want to see someone that command the offense and seeks to make a play even if things go off script.

But in the end it all comes down to some touchdowns because these stretches of going 4+ quarters without a score are getting a bit on the ridiculous side.
 
Carr Bombed said:
LOL, what are you talking about now..

Case was basically brought in as a UDFA flier/camp arm... that's not exactly just keeping him here, because he's a hometown boy

and Sorry, it's not really "wishful thinking or hoping" to assume another team would of took a flier on him if we didn't when plenty of "system QBs who had high production in college" (which is what Keenum was pegged as) get shots ALL THE TIME to participate in NFL camps and gasp.. some even make the rosters

Colt Brennan
Chase Daniel
Kellen Moore
Graham Herrell
(should I continue)

:rolleyes: yeah, I'm really stepping out on a ledge to assume that another team would of signed him as a UDFA and brought him in to their camp his rookie season. Hell if Stephen "Fing" McGee could of hung around as long as he did and get picked up by multiple teams.. a team would've taken a flier on Case Keenum. Just because he was undrafted does not mean Kubiak was his only shot to get a try out... and he did earn every opportunity he's been given here. All we did was give him a invite.. he then earned his way to the practice squad, then in his second season he made so much improvement he made it impossible for the Texans to risk sneaking him through waivers and EARNED a roster spot.. but I guess that's because he's just a hometown boy right?


P.S.

I'm really getting sick of people acting like there's some cult following of Case here. To a certain extent I'm sure there's UofH fans rooting for him. I'm not a UofH fan. I'm a Texan fan who's watched option A and B play like absolute hammered dog crap. Especially option B, who's completely healthy.. at least option A has a probable chronic injury to blame his diminished skills on. (Diminished skills.. as in won't return to form)

It seems like every time anybody even mentions Case you get your undies in a bundle, because your precious Schaub is threatened. Case may not be the answer and right now nobody knows if he is or isn't, but I do know that Schaub and Yates are NOT and never will be. Yates is a fringe career backup and Schaub is a 32 yo QB, who's body is much older than his actual age due to injuries and his already lack of athleticism. His best days are clearly behind him. So yes, I want to see Case get a shot and if that doesn't work out, then the future answer is NOT on this roster.. draft a QB high in next years draft
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Throw a pass downfield 30-40 yds and hit the receiver in stride without the receiver having to adjust his direction or come back 10 yds to catch. I think I saw Keenum hit a receiver in stride in preseason but can't remember?

Is Keenum's arm suspect? I have heard people argue it. Feel free to post a video if you have it.

I have heard of qbs hitting receivers in stride but based off what we have seen the past few years I thought it was like a unicorn type of thing.

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silvrhand said:
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LOL, yeah I'm getting that way..

Look, Keenum may or may not be "the guy", oddd are stacked against him that he will, but nobody will know one way or the other until he gets his chance. Im just tired of people acting like it's impossible that he can be or acting like he hasn't earned a look.. especially when you have hot garbage currently playing in front of him. Like I said before, it's not like we're bypassing Brady or Brees in order to see what he can do. We're bypassing a QB who's breaking down in Schaub and T.J. Yates.
 
Carr Bombed said:
To be fair to Case, I think if Kubiak didn't bring him in, he still would've got a invite to someone else's camp. Just because he was undrafted doesn't mean he wouldn't of got a opportunity in the NFL somewhere else if Houston didn't bring him in, so Kubiak is more like the first coach to give him a chance.
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Keenum also sat on the Texans practice squad last year without any team showing any interest at all in him. Kubiak is the first and only coach that has given this player any love in any sense. That's not a bad thing, but it's not really debatable. It just it what is is.

I would like to think that Keenum could end up being Kubiak's savior, simply because that would mean that Case did something special for this franchise.

I'm not trying to disrespect the kid, but let's be pragmatic about it. I do not recall any UDFA 3rd string QB being in high demand at any point in NFL history. That being said, this does not mean that he cannot play pro ball. Only time will tell on that part.
 
Double Barrel said:
Keenum also sat on the Texans practice squad last year without any team showing any interest at all in him. Kubiak is the first and only coach that has given this player any love in any sense. That's not a bad thing, but it's not really debatable. It just it what is is.

I would like to think that Keenum could end up being Kubiak's savior, simply because that would mean that Case did something special for this franchise.

I'm not trying to disrespect the kid, but let's be pragmatic about it. I do not recall any UDFA 3rd string QB being in high demand at any point in NFL history. That being said, this does not mean that he cannot play pro ball. Only time will tell on that part.
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Romo is the only one i believe...
 
I don't think he could do anything in one game that would convince me he's the guy. You have to see him over the course of the season.
 
Carr Bombed said:
LOL, yeah I'm getting that way..

Look, Keenum may or may not be "the guy", oddd are stacked against him that he will, but nobody will know one way or the other until he gets his chance. Im just tired of people acting like it's impossible that he can be or acting like he hasn't earned a look.. especially when you have hot garbage currently playing in front of him. Like I said before, it's not like we're bypassing Brady or Brees in order to see what he can do. We're bypassing a QB who's breaking down in Schaub and T.J. Yates.
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Fair enough view, I'm of the opinion Kubiak should have enough experience to know Schaub has issues, and started the search for better talent to pressure him in minicamp. But apparently this isn't the case.

It won't matter much who we put if we lose to the chiefs unless everyone else goes on a losing streak.
 
A volunteering of much more praise than would be expected with a ho hum talent.

“When we first got him, he wasn’t taking snaps from center very well,” Dennison said. “Underneath center, he’s done a lot of that and obviously understanding the system, but he’s a bright kid who works very, very hard.”

All-Pro left tackle Duane Brown, who describes Keenum as "a very fiery guy," agrees.

“He’s come a long way, a long way," Brown said. "We all knew about his collegiate career and all of the great things he did. He got here and it was a little rough for him, just trying to learn the playbook and getting used to the NFL game. But in a year’s time, it’s made a huge difference. He’s out there and he looks like a pretty good quarterback. He makes some big-time throws out there. Besides that, I really like his demeanor and personality."

Matt Schaub, who suffered an injury in the Texans’ 38-13 loss to St. Louis, credits Keenum for grasping an offensive scheme competely different from the one he ran in his collegiate career.

"Case, coming from his past where it was at U of H and the type of offense that they ran and coming into our system and trying to almost do a 180 on how to operate at his position in our scheme," Schaub said. "He’s just come such a long way, understanding the run game, understanding the pass concepts, our play-action. It’s just so different from his past. He has a huge football IQ and he can make all of the throws. You have those two things and you give him a playbook and he can go out and do it.”

Schaub could return for Sunday’s game at Arrowhead Stadium. If not, either Yates or Keenum will be the starting quarterback in Week 7. Should Keenum start, he will have to also adjust to playing in a noisy environment on the road.

“I think operating is going to be a big key to this game, just operation before the snap and getting us into the right plays, dealing with the noise and silent cadence, and putting the ball in the right place,” Keenum said. “Managing the game I think is going to be a key this week.”

Keenum, who compares the competition this week to the one in preseason between him and Yates, enjoyed the extra practice time for now.

“I got a lot more practice reps and it was fun,” Keenum said. “It was fun running our offense and getting ready to play a game. That’s how I’m seeing it right now and trying to bring a lot of energy and fun to practice this week and the game. I think today was a good start.”
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For someone to truly show that they are the "guy" to build around take more than a game or even half a football season. thus far Keenum has done everything that he could do to put himself in position to have a legitimate chance at being an NFL starter...no more, no less.

That said, I simply want Keenum to play a good football game on
Sunday (and anytime he is QBing the Texans). That's the next and only step right now.
 
Mr teX said:
Romo is the only one i believe...
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Wasn't Kurt Warner a 3rd string UDFA that got his shot? Or was he second string?

I think the only reason Yates was the backup this year is because he known the offense longer, being he ran the same offense at North Carolina and being I the Texans the last few years.

Keenum has only been running this offense for a year and a half.
 
No pick 6's. An INT is okay as long as he has at least 1 TD for each INT.

It's a rookie in his first start in an away game. I'm not going to ask for the moon AND the stars.
 
ensign_lee said:
No pick 6's. An INT is okay as long as he has at least 1 TD for each INT.

It's a rookie in his first start in an away game. I'm not going to ask for the moon AND the stars.
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Interesting. I wonder if (we) the fans will give Keenum more latitude than we are giving Schaub and Yates?
 
I'm a fan of his right now because he's the unknown factor. We don't know what we have in Keenum. IMO he's the guy for the rest of the season no matter how he plays Sunday. You need to see what you have in him.

Schaub is 32, has had some lower limb injuries and that's limited his once pedestrian athleticism. He's not going to magically get more mobile or have a stronger arm.

Yates is still young, but he hasn't shown that he's progressed over the past season and a half. If anything, based on his performance against the Rams, he's regressed. Still, while I love that he stepped in as a rookie, made some plays, and got us our first taste of that wonderful thing called the postseason, I think his ceiling is serviceable backup. He could pinch start for you and be able to hand the ball off a lot while making a few throws. He's not going to become the next Tom Brady for us. I'm not saying Keenum is, but we know Yates isn't.

Keenum is a mystery. I'm not a UH guy and I'm vehemently anti-Kubiak, but I want so much for Keenum to come in, light up the Chiefs and become the QB that we need. If he isn't the guy then at least we'll know and we can look at a 1st round QB to be our salvation.
 
Thorn said:
Interesting. I wonder if (we) the fans will give Keenum more latitude than we are giving Schaub and Yates?
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Honestly I do. He's basically a rookie. I'll forgive him a few more mistakes than the other 2. Hopefully he makes more plays than the other 2 as well.
 
Wolf said:
Getting Tds instead of field goals


And W's
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KC has a terrible offense. Keenum needs to not give up pick 6 / short field to KC.

If he can manage the game, let Arian and Tate (KC has a terrible run defense also) do most of the heavy lifting and get a TD when they can get into the RZ we can win. That's more than our #1 and #2 have been doing.
 
Thorn said:
Interesting. I wonder if (we) the fans will give Keenum more latitude than we are giving Schaub and Yates?
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That question was so rhetorical I had to walk it off.


Of course we're giving him more leeway, did I miss the other 16 NFL starts he's made or something?
 
2012Champs said:
What Id like to know is if he starts what would have to happen for the Case crew to fold and say he cant play. I imagine if he gets game time any bad play will be explained away for a million reasons other than Case being Case
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If he is better than Schaub, which isn't a very high bar, what does anyone have to explain?
 
For me , all he has to do is play mistake free .... No turnovers and no penalties (delay of game & the like attributed to QB's). Make good decisions with the ball , not throwing into dangerous situations , not taking unnecessary sacks .....


If the team plays mistake free .... they'll have a shot to win this game as KC is vulnerable to the run , staying on schedule is going to be important - limiting 2nd/3rd & long situations.

His teammates ..... cant fumble. :headhurts:
 
I didn't like the qb talent on this roster 3 yrs ago so I'm dang sure not crazy about it now. I thought they should've drafted foles or wilson last yr and geno this yr. When you look in the room and u see a 3rd,5th,and undrafted guy at the most important position,that's a problem to me. To me with case,its a matter of him being the hold the fort guy or just the backup. No way you don't draft a qb in the 1st or 2nd rd based on keenum or any other qb on this roster
 
Just looking for a talented team to compete and have fun. The team responded to Yates a couple of years ago, they can respond again.
 
I'm going to be watching how Keenum does of his own accord rather than the scoreboard. I know it's easy to simplify and point to the scoreboard but the score does not tell all.

If the defense or special teams sh!ts the bed Sunday of course I will not blame Keenum for it.
 
mussop said:
Not that it matters but Jon gruden loved Keenam coming out.
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Not sure anyone has gotten more out of the QB's they have coached than Gruden has. Gannon at the end of his career, Johnson winning a SB under him, he was there in the beginning for Favre as well. Give Case, and the keys to the car to Jon Gruden and we are in the talk for the SB for another ten years.
 
kingtexan said:
Not sure anyone has gotten more out of the QB's they have coached than Gruden has. Gannon at the end of his career, Johnson winning a SB under him, he was there in the beginning for Favre as well. Give Case, and the keys to the car to Jon Gruden and we are in the talk for the SB for another ten years.
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Case hasnt taken a regular season snap. Lets hold off on the super bowl 10 year talk stuff
 
everything is breaking just right for keenum. he's got the rags to riches story to boot along with the hometown kid angle. The planets are aligning just right for him and that includes the undefeated chiefs and their great highly touted defense on the road.

The cream rises to the top and Case Keenum is the 2nd coming of Hakeem Olajuwon.

Yes i went there.
 
Mr teX said:
That's not true at all. Kolb led U of H to a few big wins. He also led U of H to a conference championship (something Keenum did not do although he had the chance to his last year there Until Southern Miss sat on them in the championship game) The coogs in his era also put up points on everyone too...that's the benefits of running spread systems. Both guys beat Ok. State when they were ranked. I don't recall either guy beating any other major ranked teams.
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That's not true, Keenum beat ECU when they were ranked as a sophmore in 2008. ECU was getting a lot of love for that years BCS buster because they beat Virginia Tech and West Virginia to start the year.

In 2009 UH beat #5 ranked Oklahoma St and they won on the road against Miss St. UH beat Okla St before Dez Bryant was ruled ineligible.

In 2011 UH beat #23 Penn St in the Ticket City bowl and beat UCLA at home to open the season.

Those were probably the biggest wins by UH with Keenum, and Kolb the best win they had other than the 2006 CUSA title game was beating Okla St at home but that team finished 6-6 and was no where near as good as the team that Keenum and co beat on the road in 2009.
 
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