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that was 3 plays......sure they contributed but did they throw the pick 6? did they give up a punt return for a td?
The bottom line is Schaub and special teams is our problem.....no oline is perfect, sacks happen....deal with it
On 2 of those three plays, any somewhat mobile QB like Brady, Rodgers, Manning or Brees would've shifted the pocket or at least had a more productive results. I'm still not certain of whether Schaub or Kubiak is more at fault. Is Kubiak completely shackling Schaub or does Schaub just suck that bad at reading a defense. I kinda lean towards Kubiak being more at fault until I watch video of Schaub.The OL
Even Brady or the all mighty Rodgers couldnt get a pass off with this kind of protection. Rush 4 drop 7....... daaaaaaam.
When he got intercepted he had four rushing and seven in coverege. I know he had a bad game and of course I 100% agree that special teams, aside from Lechler is horrible. But this is a 4000 yard passer, give him time to throw and we will get far. Look how bad it went for Rodgers with no run game.
Dayum whats with all the hostility.
Dayum whats with all the hostility. Im not defending Schaub just showing our weakness at OL. Guess everyone is on the same mindset here of just pointing out the QB.
Dayum whats with all the hostility. Im not defending Schaub just showing our weakness at OL. Guess everyone is on the same mindset here of just pointing out the QB.
Dayum whats with all the hostility. Im not defending Schaub just showing our weakness at OL. Guess everyone is on the same mindset here of just pointing out the QB.
Maybe after the last two games, its your sig ...
And he's done it for years with no running game. Of course, his only SB title came when he did have a running game.Manning is shredding the Oakland defense throwing into double-coverages ... without a starting LT ... and with a four surgery neck and not much mobility. And you are saying our QB isn't the issue? Oh, ok ...
On 2 of those three plays, any somewhat mobile QB like Brady, Rodgers, Manning or Brees would've shifted the pocket or at least had a more productive results. I'm still not certain of whether Schaub or Kubiak is more at fault. Is Kubiak completely shackling Schaub or does Schaub just suck that bad at reading a defense. I kinda lean towards Kubiak being more at fault until I watch video of Schaub.
So you agree that more athletic QB play could lead to better offensive performances? Didn't Yates and Keenum both prove to be more athletic, just as athletic and have a good grasp of the offensive system? What's the big damn deal?I kinda lean towards Schaub's inadequacies shackling Kubiak .... Kubiak has shown the ability to get receiver's open while Schaub hasn't shown he can move , throw a dart or hit a guy accurately deep .... even Kevin Walter had to hit the brakes and wait on balls from the noodle armed statue.
Lots of problems... But the CORE problem is the O-line. It is the foundation of the system and this team.
Where is Alex Gibbs these days?
So you agree that more athletic QB play could lead to better offensive performances? Didn't Yates and Keenum both prove to be more athletic, just as athletic and have a good grasp of the offensive system? What's the big damn deal?
And one of those showed to be deadly accurate deep.
The OL
Even Brady or the all mighty Rodgers couldnt get a pass off with this kind of protection. Rush 4 drop 7....... daaaaaaam.
Re: The real problem is.....
Yes, he means that Yates. That would seem an improvement ove the accurate Schaub who has thrown 2 pick sixes in the 3 games this season. Why not give Yates the benefit of the doubt, based on his offseason performance, that he isn't the same wide-eyed rookie that he was two years ago? Do you think he's been in stasis since? You don't think he's been studying and learning the playbook? You think trading up to get some rookie QB next year will cure all our woes? Maybe I should change all of those "thinks" to "feels" because all of those thinks show a serious lack of thinking and a whole bunch of feeling. Any rational fan would want to see the vastly more experienced Yates come in rather than some rookie. Texan fans experienced that from 2002-2006.You mean Yates who threw 4 accurate interceptions to the Ravens two seasons ago?
I don't quite remember seeing Case throw any deep balls yet in the NFL.
Let's get real. This is what Keenum did against the cowboys starting defense.
http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-med...-to-Jean/ef9d5b14-2a63-4c2e-bb66-8d21fbde2246
That's a 50 yard in the air pass from midfield 34 yard line (34.5 really) to five yards deep in the end zone with pinpoint accuracy. He connected twice like this with Jean. That's natural talent that has nothing to do with what defense he's facing.
Sure, they worked on their timing a lot. He did with Martin too then apparently because they were just as on. And AJ is hurt so we need a receiver to step up. His fakes were great, and when he faced pressure he had some wheels on it.
I've really been feeling like we all watched different games during the preseason or something, or just didn't pay attention because Schaub is your man.
So if you were head coach of the Texans, you'd honestly start Case next Sunday?
Me too.Without hesitation ...
34 + 5 = 39 yards... not 50. And that is not the starting Dallas defense.
I like Case, I'm extremely happy with him as our 3rd string. Is he ready to the be thrown to the wolves and start over Schaub? I don't know, in fact, i highly doubt it. I don't watch them practice, so I can't truly say. But I do remember alot of the press mention during training camp sessions how Schaub is so far ahead of Yates and Keenum.
So if you were head coach of the Texans, you'd honestly start Case next Sunday?
Me too.
Any rational fan would want to see the vastly more experienced Yates come in rather than some rookie. Texan fans experienced that from 2002-2006.
What has Schaub shown you that says he's ready to be thrown to the wolves? You never know how any QB is going to react to a regular season game until they play one. A bad game loss by Yates or Keenum wouldn't be any worse than the loss we had against the Ravens.34 + 5 = 39 yards... not 50. And that is not the starting Dallas defense.
I like Case, I'm extremely happy with him as our 3rd string. Is he ready to the be thrown to the wolves and start over Schaub? I don't know, in fact, i highly doubt it. I don't watch them practice, so I can't truly say. But I do remember alot of the press mention during training camp sessions how Schaub is so far ahead of Yates and Keenum.
So if you were head coach of the Texans, you'd honestly start Case next Sunday?
Let's let Pythagoras help you
A^2 + B^2 = C^2
(25.665 x 25.665) + (39.5 x 39.5) = 47.1 yards in the air.
(25.665 x 25.665) + (39 x 39) = 46.6 yards in the air.
Math is good!
Pulling numbers out of your ass ain't exactly math. That makes you a global warmist climatologist. In other words, an idiot.The only numbers that mean anything are the ones on the scoreboard when the last second has run off ...
But I do remember alot of the press mention during training camp sessions how Schaub is so far ahead of Yates and Keenum.
This is the press kissing up to Kubiak for the good interviews. They have no vested interest as the news in who wins. They want the good interviews because they want us to watch them even if we can't bear to watch the game.
Schaub finished preseason with a 63.5 rating and has gotten worse since. Keenum lead (or was he second?) the nfl with a 106.7. I know he ranked higher than any current starter.
We need a quarterback and we need a receiver. Case is hot with Lestar Jean. Tah-dah. Not that hard.
In the 2nd video watch Derek Newton get off the ground at the very end, he can't bend his right knee. An OT can't play when he's got bad knees. Why is he on the field?
Let's let Pythagoras help you
A^2 + B^2 = C^2
(25.665 x 25.665) + (39.5 x 39.5) = 47.1 yards in the air.
(25.665 x 25.665) + (39 x 39) = 46.6 yards in the air.
Math is good!
DHop has shown he's a very capable #2 and can take over a game if AJ is out. The Texans are only lacking talent at QB and OL on the offensive side of the ball. And only part of the OL. A better QB could mask the lack of talent on the OL easier than the reciprocal.This is the press kissing up to Kubiak for the good interviews. They have no vested interest as the news in who wins. They want the good interviews because they want us to watch them even if we can't bear to watch the game.
Schaub finished preseason with a 63.5 rating and has gotten worse since. Keenum lead (or was he second?) the nfl with a 106.7. I know he ranked higher than any current starter.
We need a quarterback and we need a receiver. Case is hot with Lestar Jean. Tah-dah. Not that hard.
The only numbers that mean anything are the ones on the scoreboard when the last second has run off ...
Pulling numbers out of your ass ain't exactly math. That makes you a global warmist climatologist. In other words, an idiot.
Not directed at you, kingtexan.
Like I said and my point in this thread, I'd rather see the OLine fixed first. If Bryan freaken Hoyer can look good behind the awesome OL in Cleveland I'm sure Schaub will excel the same way. I would love to see Keenum play over Yates, but the last thing we want to do us pull another David Carr and throw this kid to the wolves with this line.
Meh!.. ............. 2-1 Equals .667.
With a win against Seattle, 3-1, or a .750 winning percentage! I can live with that!
I never said Pythagorean's theorem was BS. I said you pulling passing numbers out of your ass is.Seriously?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean_theorem
That's basic math. Keenum threw the ball from the center of the field on the 34.5 yard line to one yard away from the sideline and 5 yards deep in the end zone. That's a distance of 39.5 yards. The field is 53.33 yards wide. Half of that is 26.665, subtract a yard off that for how far away from the line Jean was and you get 25.665
Use the above link and do that. The ball flew 47.1 yards in the air with pinpoint accuracy. He made the same connection to Jean twice already. That's natural talent. Being able to throw that perfect that far, puts touchdowns on the board.
I never said Pythagorean's theorem was BS. I said you pulling passing numbers out of your ass is.
Let's not forget that Jean has shown a trend of dropping passes and getting holding penalties. And let's also not forget that AJ, DHop, Martin, OD and Graham have shown themselves to be very reliable. Martin is the weak link among those, but is still pretty reliable. Keenum showed famiarity with all of those but AJ and OD. They didn't play much at all in PS.
I also highly doubt that Kubiak benches one of those guys just because Keenum started a game. You don't bench starter quality players for bench players just because a bench player is starting.
I guess you got this opinion from Wiki, too. Jean has done OK but he's way more inconsistent than the other WR's.When they're thrown behind him and in the dirt, yep. There's been a lot of dropped passes. Accuracy counts. He has had a couple of penalties, but he's produced far more than he's been penalized.
So you agree that more athletic QB play could lead to better offensive performances? Didn't Yates and Keenum both prove to be more athletic, just as athletic and have a good grasp of the offensive system? What's the big damn deal?