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Peyton Manning derby: Ranking 12 potential landing spots for QB’s services

Here’s the Dirty Dozen:

1. Houston Texans: I know there was a report a few weeks ago from the Houston Chronicle’s highly reliable John McClain that Manning to the Texans is “not going to happen.” But it should, and I believe the franchise’s powerbrokers (owner Bob McNair, general manager Rick Smith and head coach Gary Kubiak) are smart enough to give the idea strong consideration. The Texans have everything Manning could possibly want: A terrific defense; a premier running back (Arian Foster); an elite receiver (Andre Johnson) and other dangerous targets; an exceptional offensive line; a fabulous stadium with a roof; and a seemingly weak division that, oh yeah, happens to include the Colts. This team is a Super Bowl contender with Matt Schaub under center; if Manning is healthy and able to regain his throwing touch, I think the Texans are Super Bowl favorites. Schaub, while accomplished, has been injury-prone and has struggled against top-notch competition. He turns 31 in June and has missed five or more games in three of his five seasons as the Texans’ starter, along with failing to finish several other starts (Sage Rosenfels closed out four games in 2007). Houston could free up approximately $7 million of cap space by cutting Schaub, which would give the franchise a nice start toward making a deal with Manning work financially for both sides. Granted, this would be a risk, but, worst-case scenario, Smith and Kubiak are high on T.J. Yates, who filled in as a rookie for the injured Schaub and led Houston to its first-ever playoff victory in January. If the Texans take the leap of faith, Manning should jump at the opportunity...

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We were just mentioned as a dark horse on Mike & Mike in the Morning, but Adam Schefter said it would most likely come down to the Redskins, Jets, Dolphins, and another team i can't seem to remember...

They even mentioned us trading Schaub to someone like the Redskins for two second rounders or even a first.

I'd be more than thrilled to have Peyton as a Texan but I don't want to get my hopes up
 
Disclaimer: Never will Happen


Wouldn't be crazy if the Jags claimed Manning off waviers.
New owner
team with a history of bad ticket sales
Gabbert is garbage
Jag def is good and have a run game
 
Mike & Mike also saying they think Reggie Wayne will follow Peyton wherever he goes, we would be fools not to consider this
 
Id love this idea. On the other site I post at, I mentioned this weeks ago and they BASHED ME lol.....weird to see how from one site to another the Texans fan have different opinions
 
srrono said:
Disclaimer: Never will Happen


Wouldn't be crazy if the Jags claimed Manning off waviers.
New owner
team with a history of bad ticket sales
Gabbert is garbage
Jag def is good and have a run game
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Manning will not hit waivers, once the Colts let him go - he is a free agent and can sign with any team he wants.
 
Manning is not coming to Houston. God I'll be glad when this crap is over with and he's signed with someone.
 
Thorn said:
Manning is not coming to Houston. God I'll be glad when this crap is over with and he's signed with someone.
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Agreed.

Or let's bring him in. First practice let Mario & Barwin meet-in-the-middle and make a Manning sandwich knocking him out of the league for good. Release him paying the minimum, and move on.
 
I love how talking heads try a justify why Manning wouldn't be a good fit in Houston because he doesn't roll out and use play action...

THEN they roll video footage of Manning... DOING EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAY HE CAN'T DO! About 5-6 clips were play action and 2 were him rolling out.

People are telling me Matt Schaub can do something Peyton Manning can't is very, very hard to believe.

the ONLY 2 reason this will not happen is...

1: Kubiak's ego will never let Manning's ego run the offense

2: money

otherwise Manning should already be signed, in a Texans uniform and Schaub traded. I would MUCH rather Yates or whom ever the future is, learning under one of the best QB in the history of the NFL rather a mediocre noodle arm that can barely stay healthy...

BUT that's just me...
 
Playoffs said:
Agreed.

Or let's bring him in. First practice let Mario & Barwin meet-in-the-middle and make a Manning sandwich knocking him out of the league for good. Release him paying the minimum, and move on.
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:kubepalm::wadepalm::vincepalm::toropalm:

If I could put more, I would...Teams in high school don't let defenses hit the QB in practice...
 
ckhouston said:
Yes it would be amazing, because he isnt on waivers.
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lol, was about to say the same thing...

Waivers only comes into play for players who have less than 4 seasons accrued, or when any player is cut/released during the regular season, but after the trade deadline.

Some guys that were on waivers recently were Randy Moss after being cut by the Vikings, Jason Allen released by the Dolphins and claimed by Texans, Kyle Orton was released by the Broncos this season and claimed by the Chiefs.
 
Mort(ensen) on SC: Serious contenders?

All the teams you've heard. Dolphins, Redskins, Seattle, KC, Arizona. I do believe the most interesting franchise would be the Texans. We have no indications that they're interested. They do have Matt Schaub, butt he is coming off injury and only has one year left on his deal. That is a team that will be popular pick to be in contention next year. That will be very important to Manning. A team that has a chance to win a super bowl.

Adam Schefter on Mike & Mike:

I think teams will be jockeying for position immediately. I think this process will move quickly. I think Peyton wants to get this wrapped up sooner rather than later. And my guess would be by the time FA starts Tuesday, that this is done by then and Peyton has a new home and new team and is off the market by then.

How significant in Peyton's decision do you think guaranteed money will be?

I dont think it will drive the decision at all. Money helps show interest in you but when it comes down to it for Peyton Manning, he is going to want to be in a spot in which he feels most confident he can win. Period. Any team that gets Manning, that team becomes an automatic contender for that division title and a super bowl contender in my mind.

Wild card team?

You have to watch, I dont think its feasible but, what happens in San Francisco with Smith? What happens with Denver? Kansas City may take a run at him. Sleeper teams like that but this boils down to 4 teams: Miami, Washington, Arizona, NY Jets. I believe he'll choose the place he believes gives him the best chance to win. Those are the 4 teams to monitor and watch.

Houston? I know they have Schaub but he has a history of being injury prone and only has 1 year left. If they call me, thats the first call I'm answering.

That's a great outside the box thought. If I were the Texans, I would say, ok let me shop Matt Schaub. Matt Schaub worked with Kyle Shanahan in Houston, Shanahan, the Redskins OC. Let me see if I can get a deal done with Peyton, and trade Schaub to Washington for a couple of twos, which is what you gave up for him. Maybe get a first round pick for him. To me, thats an outside the box thought. Thats the way New York Jets should think. Trade Mark Sanchez to someone like Pete Carroll, his college coach, for a one, two twos, you pick the compensation. Now you've loaded up on picks and get Peyton Manning at QB. But its not going to happen in Houston. The Texans will not be a player as much sense as that might make. That will not happen. Take them out of the equation. Take Tennessee out of the equation. Take teams that there is some logic to that wont work in this particular case and come back to the four teams we laid out. Miami, Washington, Jets, Arizona. Each team can make a compelling argument but it will be fascinating to see how this turns down to go after a QB, from every indication of people who work out with him, that believe hes back. That hes Peyton Manning and he is on the market. You can get him for free. Not like RG3 where you trade up picks.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
Fun, for some, to talk about. But not going to happen.
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Yep.

1. Kubiak is loyal. LOYAL. He won't do this because it would appear that, to his players, that he will give up on them and go get the cutest new thing on the market. It's patently outside of his character and historical nature.

2. McNair is not a risk taker. Giving up 2 2's for Schaub was as risky as McNair ever wants to get, and even THAT came off the heels of giving Carr one last ride with Kubiak for a whole season. Acquiring Manning presents awkward logistics and marketing "woes" that he doesn't want to gamble on right now. And then what happens when Manning goes all Ahman Green on us? WE have to turn him out to pasture and WE are the ones that look silly for giving him his last chance. It's not in McNair's blood to do this sort of thing.

3. Manning + Kubiak + Offense = Conflict. Yeah, yeah, people say Kubiak could work with Manning just fine. Really? At this stage, I don't think Kubiak wants to let anybody but Kubiak be "the guy" who calls the plays and runs the risk on said plays.

4. Money. Four or Five teams out there will bid up Manning, IMO. They'll make him overpriced.
 
My pick is the Jets.

They hated being a suck team in 2011 and then watching the Giants win the SB.

So they have to dump Sanchez to some poor team like the Jags or the Seahawks, and then add the other Manning to compete with Eli for headlines and media space.

This is a move tailor-made for the Jets. The only thing that would stop it is if Peyton feels so disgusted with the character of Rex Ryan that he can't see himself working with that guy.
 
DonnyMost said:
I really hope that guy isn't listing those in order of likeliness.
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If the writer himself is to be believed, he is not.
Michael Silver ‏ @MikeSilver

For those who didn't actually, you know, read the column: I ranked the teams by where peyton SHOULD sign, not where he will...
9:23 AM - 7 Mar 12 via Twitter for BlackBerry® · Details
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Tell you what the Colts were extremely shrewd when it came to Paytons contract from what I can tell. With a $90 million contract, and a player about to be cut you'd think that Indy would be in Cap Hell, but with Manning hurt I just read the Colts are only on the hook for $1 million in 2012. The whole deal hinged on that $28 million option. I'm impressed with what they did, and although they sucked last year and are going into the rebuilding mode they handling Mannings contract well and lucked out with the timing of his inury situation.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/feed/2011-09/peyton-manning/story/indianapolis-colts-protected-financially-if-peyton-manning-cant-play
 
BullNation4Life said:
I love how talking heads try a justify why Manning wouldn't be a good fit in Houston because he doesn't roll out and use play action...

THEN they roll video footage of Manning... DOING EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAY HE CAN'T DO! About 5-6 clips were play action and 2 were him rolling out.

People are telling me Matt Schaub can do something Peyton Manning can't is very, very hard to believe.
the ONLY 2 reason this will not happen is...

1: Kubiak's ego will never let Manning's ego run the offense

2: money

otherwise Manning should already be signed, in a Texans uniform and Schaub traded. I would MUCH rather Yates or whom ever the future is, learning under one of the best QB in the history of the NFL rather a mediocre noodle arm that can barely stay healthy...

BUT that's just me...
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Matt is much better at getting hurt than Peyton.:goodluck:
 
DonnyMost said:
I really hope that guy isn't listing those in order of likeliness.

If I had to bet, I'd say he's Miami bound.



QFT
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I feel the same way.

They have some nice pieces at the skill positions plus when you factor in the revenge factor, Miami plays at Indy next season.
 
Arizona Cardinals.

They were burned by the decision to trade for former Eagles backup Kevin Kolb last offseason, but at least they get an escape clause after one disappointing, $12 million year. Recent history also tells us the Cardinals were very happy about the decision to add Kurt Warner late in his career, to the tune of a Super Bowl XLIII appearance. So in Flynn vs. Manning, it’s no surprise they would side with Peyton. They nearly got to the playoffs with John Skelton as the starting quarterback, so they should be dreaming of how far they can get with a healthy Manning. Arizona also has a lot to offer Manning: It’s a low-profile, warm-weather, indoor-stadium destination, and he would inherit a pretty good go-to guy in Larry Fitzgerald.


http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/sto...=maing-grid7|main5|dl15|sec1_lnk3&pLid=141387


Makes sense to me.

:coffee:
 
We don't need him here and over pay for damaged goods. That kind of injury you just don't know the effects on a guy. Rick would be better going to the boats in Lake Charles!
 
cuppacoffee said:
Arizona Cardinals.

They were burned by the decision to trade for former Eagles backup Kevin Kolb last offseason, but at least they get an escape clause after one disappointing, $12 million year. Recent history also tells us the Cardinals were very happy about the decision to add Kurt Warner late in his career, to the tune of a Super Bowl XLIII appearance. So in Flynn vs. Manning, it’s no surprise they would side with Peyton. They nearly got to the playoffs with John Skelton as the starting quarterback, so they should be dreaming of how far they can get with a healthy Manning. Arizona also has a lot to offer Manning: It’s a low-profile, warm-weather, indoor-stadium destination, and he would inherit a pretty good go-to guy in Larry Fitzgerald.


http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/sto...=maing-grid7|main5|dl15|sec1_lnk3&pLid=141387


Makes sense to me.

:coffee:
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You might be right. I can envision him in that jersey. Dome stadium too. The divisional rivals are 49ers, Seahawks and Rams. That would look enticing if I'm Manning and choosing my destiny.
 
I do believe the most interesting franchise would be the Texans. We have no indications that they're interested.
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That's because they're not interested. Manning is not coming to Houston unless he's in a visitors uniform. This will come down to the Jets and the Dolphins. My money is on the Jets.
 
blanco2424 said:
We don't need him here and over pay for damaged goods. That kind of injury you just don't know the effects on a guy. Rick would be better going to the boats in Lake Charles!
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In response to the bolded, I don't think that is an accurate statement.

If I understand correctly, as long as the nerve in his neck regenerates, there aren't really any risks to further injury compared to an un-repaired neck.
The repair itself is not the question with Manning, it's whether he regains arm strength or not.

Maybe CnD can chime in here to elaborate further? (I'm sure CnD has posted his opinion on this, but haven't searched for it. If I have a chance, i'll see if I can find anything).
 
michaelm said:
In response to the bolded, I don't think that is an accurate statement.

If I understand correctly, as long as the nerve in his neck regenerates, there aren't really any risks to further injury compared to an un-repaired neck.The repair itself is not the question with Manning, it's whether he regains arm strength or not.

Maybe CnD can chime in here to elaborate further? (I'm sure CnD has posted his opinion on this, but haven't searched for it. If I have a chance, i'll see if I can find anything).
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In response to the bolded, I don't think that's an accurate statement.


Signed,

Four Neck Surgeries


;)
 
Hardcore Texan said:
Yup, not gonna happen, I have been tired of hearing about it since this talk started.
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Same here. Not sure why people are willing to mortgage the future to take a huge risk on a guy coming off major surgery. If Manning isn't 100% by the start of the season or doesn't play like the Peyton of old, all these same people will be blasting the front office for signing him.
 
b0ng said:
If I was Peyton I'd be trying to get san francisco interested in my services.
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Peyton will probably take a long, hard look at SF. But I don't think they can give him enough money, nor do I think Harbaugh and Manning will be a good fit.

Miami, other than being in the same division as the Patriots, seems to be a perfect fit. Tons of money to throw around, a good offensive line, and talented young skill players. The defense needs help in some areas, but they did a commendable job last year with their QB situation hamstringing them so badly. Plus Manning would be given full control of that offense by Philbin.
 
Texan_Bill said:
In response to the bolded, I don't think that's an accurate statement.


Signed,

Four Neck Surgeries


;)
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't several of those surgeries failed attempts to correct the same injury?
IIRC, he had three surgeries all related to his disc problem. The first two were, in part, performed in an attempt to avoid the cervical fusion surgery that was eventually necessary because the previous two surgeries didn't correct the problem.


I think three surgeries were done for the same injury, in order (IIRC):

1) Bulging disk
2) Herniated disk
3) Cervical fusion
 
DonnyMost said:
I think you missed the point...
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Indeed, thank you. Literalism.
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I don't think Peyton is interested in the dog & pony show that is the NY Jets. Miami looks best bet to me, although it would be interesting to see him & Wayne in Arizona with Larry Fitz ... scary passing numbers. But hate to see Kolb tossed aside.
 
DonnyMost said:
Peyton will probably take a long, hard look at SF. But I don't think they can give him enough money, nor do I think Harbaugh and Manning will be a good fit.

Miami, other than being in the same division as the Patriots, seems to be a perfect fit. Tons of money to throw around, a good offensive line, and talented young skill players. The defense needs help in some areas, but they did a commendable job last year with their QB situation hamstringing them so badly. Plus Manning would be given full control of that offense by Philbin.
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A Dolphins beat writer claims they have 14 million in cap space for 2012. That might be enough to get Peyton, but him alone does not make that team very competitive.

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2012/02/nfl-salary-cap-crunching-the-2012-numbers.html


According to John Clayton, the 49ers have 39 million in capspace including 2011 rollover, but not including Ahmad Brooks' new deal (8 mill cap hit this year iirc). Plenty of space to get Manning, Wayne, and more. They could re-sign Alex Smith as a backup too. SF is a much better spot as they have a top 5 defense already (need to re-sign or replace Carlos Rodgers though), an excellent TE in VD, a pretty good run game, and a good O-line. They could use some WR help, but if Wayne comes along, having Crabtree as a #2 would probably work out. Seems like a much more ideal spot to me.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7570116/nfl-plenty-cap-room-improve
 
Dutchrudder said:
According to John Clayton, the 49ers have 39 million in capspace including 2011 rollover, but not including Ahmad Brooks' new deal (8 mill cap hit this year iirc). Plenty of space to get Manning, Wayne, and more. They could re-sign Alex Smith as a backup too. SF is a much better spot as they have a top 5 defense already (need to re-sign or replace Carlos Rodgers though), an excellent TE in VD, a pretty good run game, and a good O-line. They could use some WR help, but if Wayne comes along, having Crabtree as a #2 would probably work out. Seems like a much more ideal spot to me.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7570116/nfl-plenty-cap-room-improve
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Agree. But I thought the Niners weren't interested?
 
Playoffs said:
Agree. But I thought the Niners weren't interested?
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I haven't heard anything from Harbaugh or the organization. Post it if you got something. Yesterday Jerry Rice gave his thoughts on it:

erry Rice, who has some experience with Hall of Fame quarterbacks, wants to see Peyton Manning barking instructions, making hand signals and flinging passes in a 49ers uniform.

Rice was dressed for golf Tuesday in Hayward, where he appeared to promote next month’s Nationwide Tour event at TPC Stonebrae. He also offered his thoughts on several football matters – including the possibility, however remote, of the 49ers pursuing Manning in free agency.

“I think you go for it, you really do,” Rice said in an interview with The Chronicle and the Bay Area News Group. “You have to go after him. You’ve got a defense that’s going to smack you in the mouth, but you need a little more from the offense.

“Not knocking what Alex Smith did … but a guy with the knowledge and talent of Peyton Manning, I think you’d take it to a whole different level. If he’s healthy, he’s going to have a chip on his shoulder like crazy. He’s going to be pissed.”
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http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/03/07/jerry-rice-49ers-should-pursue-peyton-manning/
 
I hope Manning doesn't go to Miami. I would like to have the best shot at keeping or winning streak against the Phins!!!!
 
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