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Race for #1 AFC Seed

srrono

srrono

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The road to #1 Seed is not as easy for the Texans as most think. NE remaining Schedule is a very easy one. BALT & PIT are Favorable as well. In order for HOU to have a real shot at #1 seed I think they will have to go at least 5-1 down the stretch.

O=Overall Record
D=Division Record
C=Conf Record

HOU O (7-3) D (3-0) C (6-2)
11 Bye
12 @ Jacksonville (3-6)
13 vs Atlanta (5-4)
14 @ Cincinnati (6-3)
15 vs Carolina (2-7)
16 @ Indianapolis (0-10)
17 vs Tennessee (5-4)

NE O (6-3) D (3-1) C (5-2)
11 vs Kansas City (4-5)
12 @ Philadelphia (3-6)
13 vs Indianapolis (0-10)
14 @ Washington (3-6)
15 @ Denver (4-5)
16 vs Miami (2-7)
17 vs Buffalo (5-4)

BALT O (6-3) D (2-0) C (4-2)
11 vs Cincinnati (6-3)
12 vs San Francisco (8-1)
13 @ Cleveland (3-6)
14 vs Indianapolis (0-10)
15 @ San Diego (4-5)
16 vs Cleveland (3-6)
17 @ Cincinnati (6-3)

PIT O (7-3) D (1-2) C (5-3)
11 Bye
12 @ Kansas City (4-5)
13 vs Cincinnati (6-3)
14 vs Cleveland (3-6)
15 @ San Francisco (8-1)
16 vs St. Louis (2-7)
17 @ Cleveland (3-6)

NYJ O (5-4) D (2-2) C (4-4)
11 @ Denver (4-5)
12 vs Buffalo (5-4)
13 @ Washington (3-6)
14 vs Kansas City (4-5)
15 @ Philadelphia (3-6)
16 vs NY Giants (6-3)
17 @ Miami (2-7)

CIN O (6-3) D (1-1) C (5-2)
11 @ Baltimore (6-3)
12 vs Cleveland (3-6)
13 @ Pittsburgh (7-3)
14 vs Houston (7-3)
15 @ St. Louis (2-7)
16 vs Arizona (3-6)
17 vs Baltimore (6-3)

OAK O (5-4) D (2-2) C (5-4)
11 @ Minnesota (2-6)
12 vs Chicago (6-3)
13 @ Miami (2-7)
14 @ Green Bay (8-0)
15 vs Detroit (6-3)
16 @ Kansas City (4-5)
17 vs San Diego (4-5)

SD O (4-5) D (2-2) C (3-4)
11 @ Chicago (6-3)
12 vs Denver (4-5)
13 @ Jacksonville (3-6)
14 vs Buffalo (5-4)
15 vs Baltimore (6-3)
16 @ Detroit (6-3)
17 @ Oakland (5-4)

TEN O (5-4) D (1-2) C (4-4)
11 @ Atlanta (5-4)
12 vs Tampa Bay (4-5)
13 @ Buffalo (5-4)
14 vs New Orleans (7-3)
15 @ Indianapolis (0-10)
16 vs Jacksonville (3-6)
17 @ Houston (7-3)
 
The Bengals and Falcons look like they will be the toughest remaining opponents. The Bengals will be a tough road game. Jacksonville is always tough no matter what their record is but I still say the Texans beat em. The worst the Texans come out of the final 6 games is 4-2 which would put us at 11-5.
 
If the Texans take it one game at a time and give each one their full attention then the #1 seed will take care of itself.
 
I don't think anyone really thinks it's easy, i just think most are excited about how the boys are right there in the thick of it with only six games to go... It's damn near a case of the Texans controlling their own destiny here... Easy? No way! But it's exciting where this team is at, finally...

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I don't think anyone really thinks it's easy, i just think most are excited about how the boys are right there in the thick of it with only six games to go... It's damn near a case of the Texans controlling their own destiny here... Easy? No way! But it's exciting where this team is at, finally...

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Hervoyel said:
If the Texans take it one game at a time and give each one their full attention then the #1 seed will take care of itself.
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This!

The Bengals and the Falcons are the toughest remaining games as stated above. You never know which Tennessee team will show up either on Jan 1st, and we can't over look Jax on the road. But these games are all winnable. The Falcons are not a good road team and the Bengals lost their best CB yesterday with a torn achilles.
 
I was rooting heavy for NYJ to beat NE cause as much as I think NE isnt as good as in the past I would rather see NYJ win that div and make NE a wild card but now after I looked at the remaining SCH for NE its pretty clear NE is still going to be a factor. I think as long as the Texans get a bye ill be happy but #1 seed would be awesome.
 
srrono said:
New England O (6-3) D (3-1) C (5-2)
11 vs Kansas City (4-5)
12 @ Philadelphia (3-6)
13 vs Indianapolis (0-10)
14 @ Washington (3-6)
15 @ Denver (4-5)
16 vs Miami (2-7)
17 vs Buffalo (5-4)
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Patriots, 12-4 or 13-3 ... #1 seed.
 
What scares me is the Present and NOW

Tenn is still nipping at our heels and the Jags are going to play with mad pride aganist us at there house in Florida
 
Hardcore Texan said:
This!

The Bengals and the Falcons are the toughest remaining games as stated above. You never know which Tennessee team will show up either on Jan 1st, and we can't over look Jax on the road. But these games are all winnable. The Falcons are not a good road team and the Bengals lost their best CB yesterday with a torn achilles.
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U never know which Carolina team is going to show up either or JAGS IMO every week looks tough IMO depending on how this stuff pans out the good meaning We wrap up our divison and Bye at like week 13.. and treat our last 3 games like preseason games or this stuff comes done to week 17 vs the titans with PLayoffs on the line ....scary
 
Norg said:
...depending on how this stuff pans out the good meaning We wrap up our divison and Bye at like week 13.. and treat our last 3 games like preseason games or this stuff comes done to week 17 vs the titans with PLayoffs on the line ....scary
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If we win week 12 & week 13 we would be 9-3. To wrap up the bye week, every other team would have to have 7 losses by then.... can't happen. Not possible.
 
i could see the titans lose the next 3

@CLE yeah CLE aint that good put they have been streaky in the past esp when playing at home

@ ATL -- yeah titans are going down

vs Tampa Depending on what tampa team shows up this will be a slobber knocker

Its all depending who shows up from here on out IMO
 
asleep said:
Patriots, 12-4 or 13-3 ... #1 seed.
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Yer smokin .... that team is seriously flawed , moreso than last years Texans team at least the Texans could run the ball last season to protect their horrible defense.

They cant run the ball offensively and they cant stop the pass defensively.

As good as Brady is , I dont think he can will that team to a 12-4 or better record.


srrono said:
I was rooting heavy for NYJ to beat NE cause as much as I think NE isnt as good as in the past I would rather see NYJ win that div and make NE a wild card but now after I looked at the remaining SCH for NE its pretty clear NE is still going to be a factor. I think as long as the Texans get a bye ill be happy but #1 seed would be awesome.
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I was glad to see the Pats win that one , I'd rather play the Pats than the Jets because the Jets defense gives them a chance in every game.

The Texans are the most complete team in the NFL this season.

They can run or pass offensively and they can stop the run and the pass defensively. No other team is as good on both offense and defense.

#2 in defensive points per game

#5 in points per game


I like their chances against either the Pats or Jets but think the Pats are the easier of the two ..... mainly because of the difference in the two teams defensively.
 
Corrosion said:
Yer smokin .... that team is seriously flawed , moreso than last years Texans team at least the Texans could run the ball last season to protect their horrible defense.

They cant run the ball offensively and they cant stop the pass defensively.

As good as Brady is , I dont think he can will that team to a 12-4 or better record.




I was glad to see the Pats win that one , I'd rather play the Pats than the Jets because the Jets defense gives them a chance in every game.

The Texans are the most complete team in the NFL this season.

They can run or pass offensively and they can stop the run and the pass defensively. No other team is as good on both offense and defense.

#2 in defensive points per game

#5 in points per game


I like their chances against either the Pats or Jets but think the Pats are the easier of the two ..... mainly because of the difference in the two teams defensively.
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Whatever chance we had for the #1 seed in the AFC is now gone with Schaub's injury. I still think we can make the playoff, but I think its more likely as a #4.
 
Doppelganger said:
Whatever chance we had for the #1 seed in the AFC is now gone with Schaub's injury. I still think we can make the playoff, but I think its more likely as a #4.
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I know when most people predict, they think about how good the other teams are.

But look at our schedule.... with Schaub, what were you thinking it would take to win the #1 seed? 13 wins? 12?

Then look at our schedule, what game were you expecting Schaub to throw for 300 yards with multiple TDs to win?

I still think we can win 12 games & will think so until I see how bad Lienart stinks it up.

If he plays smart... we should be good.
 
thunderkyss said:
I know when most people predict, they think about how good the other teams are.

But look at our schedule.... with Schaub, what were you thinking it would take to win the #1 seed? 13 wins? 12?

Then look at our schedule, what game were you expecting Schaub to throw for 300 yards with multiple TDs to win?

I still think we can win 12 games & will think so until I see how bad Lienart stinks it up.

If he plays smart... we should be good.
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We play Cincy and Atlanta: they are both top 5 in rush Defense. They give up 86.8 and 90 ypg. Schaub provides a threat to be able to open up the running game. With Leinart, the Cincy D and ATL D can load the box and force the Texans to air it out with an unknown QB. With Schaub we could have won one or both, without we likely lose both.

NE has the EASIEST schedule and I could see them winning out or losing just once. Pitt has 1 tough game left in SF and other than that they could win out. The Wild card is the Raiders. I have no idea where they will finish, but they could finish just ahead with the tiebreaker, just behind, or miss the playoffs completely. So the Texans could be a 3rd or 4th seed. I really think #1 and #2 pretty much required 12-4 and that meant just one more loss.

The thing about Schaub is he can make that important 3rd and 8 pass for a first down to extend a series. Cincy has a good D and Schaub would have been great picking it apart with short passes. I am not sure Leinart can do that. Atlanta has a solid Run

Can leinart do that? I honestly don't know.

If Schaub had been there, I think we would have beaten Cincy, especially with Leon Hall out.
 
Insideop said:
NE should win every one of those games. It's just a matter of which NE team shows up, the one that beat the Jets last night or the the one that lost to Buffalo awhile back.
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with 6 games remaining, we can expect all top AFC teams ( NE, Steelers, Ravens ) to go 5-1... and if we do the same 5-1 we can be #1 seed.

Jaguars on the road will be a tough one. I dont think our running game will work against them like its been. Hope Leinart does some magic, After all he is a 2004 Heisman trophy winner.
Come one Leinart pull a Cam Newton here.
 
Let me revise this mug not this is me being a Football IQ guy and going to what it just seems like on paper

12 @ Jacksonville (3-6)- W Jags got a rookie QB 2 so its a tossup IMO
13 vs Atlanta (5-4)-L Cant score enough points to win simple has that
14 @ Cincinnati (6-3)-W they got a rookie QB to so its a toss up IMO
15 vs Carolina (2-7)-At home pretty much a blowout game IMO
16 @ Indianapolis (0-10)-PLaying for the #1 seed and bye week we best win this game obvs going to be a much tougher game now that Matty is gone infact all these games will be much tougher
17 vs Tennessee (5-4) -but this point we are just spent tired and rdy for the Post season and let a close game slip by this point this game will mean nothing win or lose
 
The Texans were not asking Schaub to be spectacular, and it's not like
he was Brett Favre with the game on the line. Remember, SAGE ROSENFELS
almost took the starting job from him. Matt Leinart is much better than
Sage, and the team doesn't NEED him to be spectacular either.

You have an elite running game (TWO ProBowl-caliber RB's.)

You have an elite offensive line (there, I finally said it.)

You have an elite defense.

You have an elite wide receiver.

Just don't turn the **** over, and you'll clock a "W."

Peace
 
DexmanC said:
The Texans were not asking Schaub to be spectacular, and it's not like
he was Brett Favre with the game on the line. Remember, SAGE ROSENFELS
almost took the starting job from him. Matt Leinart is much better than
Sage, and the team doesn't NEED him to be spectacular either.

You have an elite running game (TWO ProBowl-caliber RB's.)

You have an elite offensive line (there, I finally said it.)

You have an elite defense.

You have an elite wide receiver.

Just don't turn the **** over, and you'll clock a "W."

Peace
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The bolded part is a bit revisionist history.
 
When us negatory posters are making positive posts after losing our starting QB, it goes without saying that the world has somehow fundementally changed. LOL
 
Insideop said:
NE should win every one of those games. It's just a matter of which NE team shows up, the one that beat the Jets last night or the the one that lost to Buffalo awhile back.
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This is the way I'm thinking too. Who on their remaining schedule has a halfway decent defense against N.E.'s pass-happy offense..? Stat-wise, I listed each opponent's ranking for Passing yds/game and Pts. allowed/game.

NE O (6-3) D (3-1) C (5-2)
11 vs Kansas City (4-5) -- 16th / 23rd
12 @ Philadelphia (3-6) -- 11th / 19th
13 vs Indianapolis (0-10) -- 21st / 32nd
14 @ Washington (3-6) -- 9th / 8th (why aren't they winning more? They're only putting up 15.1 pts/game; that's why)
15 @ Denver (4-5) -- 19th / 25th
16 vs Miami (2-7) -- 25th / 8th (they don't allow many pts/game why aren't they winning more. They can only put up 17.6 pts game. Brady & Co. may have that many by halftime.
17 vs Buffalo (5-4) -- 27th / 23rd

I know stats aren't the whole story but from that standpoint, we'd have to win out to take the #1 seed from N.E. because I don't see anyone they should lose to.
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DexmanC said:
The Texans were not asking Schaub to be spectacular, and it's not like
he was Brett Favre with the game on the line. Remember, SAGE ROSENFELS
almost took the starting job from him. Matt Leinart is much better than
Sage, and the team doesn't NEED him to be spectacular either.

You have an elite running game (TWO ProBowl-caliber RB's.)

You have an elite offensive line (there, I finally said it.)

You have an elite defense.

You have an elite wide receiver.

Just don't turn the **** over, and you'll clock a "W."

Peace
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You left out our prolific TE corps.
 
We may be the #1 seed right now but we are not in control of our destiny. We're only #1 because we haven't had our BYE week yet. Whoever wins the Baltimore/Cincinnati game will take the #1 seed on Sunday. Until we are in control, I can't bank on all Leinart needing to do is "manage" the game.
 
NitroGSXR said:
We may be the #1 seed right now but we are not in control of our destiny. We're only #1 because we haven't had our BYE week yet. Whoever wins the Baltimore/Cincinnati game will take the #1 seed on Sunday. Until we are in control, I can't bank on all Leinart needing to do is "manage" the game.
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Well if Cincy beats Baltimore we control our own destiny.
 
Leinart will shine so much rest of season that in the offseason we trade him to the redskins for a #1 pick and Brian Orakpo.
 
I can see the Texans running the table and finishing 13-3. I'm not sure that would be the best thing for the Texans, though. Peaking in November or December doesn't necessarily win a championship.
 
DocBar said:
I can see the Texans running the table and finishing 13-3. I'm not sure that would be the best thing for the Texans, though. Peaking in November or December doesn't necessarily win a championship.
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Wait it doesn't? I thought it was a good idea to peak at the end of the reg season. Oh well i guess if we peak now we won't go far.
 
Tennessee will lose 4 or 5 of their last 7 games. They will lose to Atlanta this weekend, they will lose to us on Jan 1st they will lose to Buffalo and they will lose to New Orleans for sure and I wouldn't write them in to beat Jax or TB either. The Problem is the AFC North and we can only hope that they beat each other up real good and we take care of our business.
 
Endcoachment said:
Wait it doesn't? I thought it was a good idea to peak at the end of the reg season. Oh well i guess if we peak now we won't go far.
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I see that you aptly named yourself. The main point I'm making is that a loss might actually do the Texans good and get the refocused on the goal. Too long of a winning streak in November and December has given plenty of other teams a false sense of security. Getting to the playoffs os the goal during the season. Peaking during the playoffs is the ultimate goal. Check the Colts and Chargers playoff records and see how many one and done's they've had with great regular season teams.
 
DocBar said:
Check the Colts and Chargers playoff records and see how many one and done's they've had with great regular season teams.
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Coincidentally they play in the 2 weakest division in the AFC.....



Wait a minute, we're in one of those divisions.
 
Agreed. I'd "like" us to take a loss somewhere. Carolina would be "ideal", if that makes sense. Not against Atlanta or Cincy, who are two legit teams. And not against divisional opponents. Winning (however-many-straight) is just super damn tough to do oddswise. We're not the Patriots or the Packers.
 
DocBar said:
I can see the Texans running the table and finishing 13-3. I'm not sure that would be the best thing for the Texans, though. Peaking in November or December doesn't necessarily win a championship.
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You can? I can't.

Hey, Leinart may not be bad, we'll all find out soon enough, but he isn't Matt Schaub either. So, I'm thinking with the QB change the Texans are probably looking at 10-6 or maybe 9-7. Personally, I think Leinart will come up short against Jax in his first start, and I think losing to the Bengals in Cincy is a reasonable assumption; so that makes it 11-5 at best, but there will probably also be a loss to a team like the Falcons or Titans, meaning 10-6. That is, assuming Leinart doesn't come in and make like Tom Brady OR the Vikings' version of McNabb; then you'd be talking 13-3 OR 7-9. Seriously though, with a back-up QB the Texans should hope to land somewhere around 10-6 or 9-7. If a back-up can win .500 of their games, that's considered acceptable. In Leinart's case half would put the team at 10-6, with Matt going 3-3 as a starter to finish the season.
 
thunderkyss said:
Coincidentally they play in the 2 weakest division in the AFC.....



Wait a minute, we're in one of those divisions.
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You got me to wondering, so I looked up how things were going this season with regard to conference play:

AFCN . . . . . . 16-11
AFCW. . . . . . 16-15
AFCE . . . . . . 13-15
AFCS . . . . . . 13-17

Personally, I think the biggest threat no longer comes from within the AFC, but the NFC which seems to be resurgent after years of being the "other conference". While making the playoffs is important, it will be even more important to be able to defeat the Packers or whichever team the NFC sends to the SB. As far as I'm concerned, it is too hard trying to pick the "best" teams in the AFC, because it tends to change every couple of weeks.
 
Cerberus said:
You can? I can't.
Personally, I think Leinart will come up short against Jax in his first start,
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I also think we're going to be disappointed with Leinart's perfromance against Jax.... however, he'll have to be ridiculously terrible to counter for the Jags poor offense.
Cerberus said:
and I think losing to the Bengals in Cincy is a reasonable assumption; so that makes it 11-5 at best, but there will probably also be a loss to a team like the Falcons or Titans, meaning 10-6.
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In all our wins, we have rarely trailed. Against teams that can score, these three in particular & Carolina as well, we're going to need Leinart to make plays, help extend drives & get us in the end-zone.

I don't see us losing all three of these games..... I don't see us winning them all either.
Cerberus said:
That is, assuming Leinart doesn't come in and make like Tom Brady OR the Vikings' version of McNabb; then you'd be talking 13-3 OR 7-9. Seriously though, with a back-up QB the Texans should hope to land somewhere around 10-6 or 9-7. If a back-up can win .500 of their games, that's considered acceptable. In Leinart's case half would put the team at 10-6, with Matt going 3-3 as a starter to finish the season.
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Jaxonville & Indy are extremely week, I can see us winning those. Even with a back-up QB, we should be favored to win those games. That makes us 9-3...... if we go 2-2 vs Atlanta, Cincy, Carolina, & Tennessee, we'll be 11-5.

Matt's not going to be perfect. We know that. But none of our competitors are either.
 
I'll focus on winning the South first, contemplating the best way to enter the playoffs (specilating whom to beat & lose to) is a waste of time.

First win the division, then it's one game at a time and, if we're real lucky, a SB game at the end... But first things first :)
 
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