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Vinny said:
you claim to be a fan of the team and you hope the Texans move. You said it, not me. Frankly you have exposed yourself to be a charlatan and a fake. No real fan of a franchise is pulling for the team to relocate.
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No Vinerino, I said it would be funny if the team were moved. Which, as it seems you're having trouble with that statement, it doesn't mean I want the team moved. Nice try though. Keep'em comin' - I'll keep battin' 'em out if all you got are softballs ;)
 
Vinny said:
you claim to be a fan of the team and you hope the Texans move. You said it, not me. Frankly you have exposed yourself to be a charlatan and a fake. No real fan of a franchise is pulling for the team to relocate.
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Exactly. I don't understand what he's trying to say. The 99% that want Kubiak fired also want the Texans to do good as well (even if that means Kubiak is the head coach). The top 1% can't seem to get it out of their thick heads that we all want to the same goal for the team. Criticizing the team does not mean we hate the team. Criticizing the team doesn't mean we want them to lose and move to California. What kind of reasoning is that?

When does Occupy Reliant start?
 
Surreal McCoy said:
No Vinerino, I said it would be funny if the team were moved. Which, as it seems you're having trouble with that statement, it doesn't mean I want the team moved. Nice try though. Keep'em comin' - I'll keep battin' 'em out if all you got are softballs ;)
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Getting hard to breath in here with all the smug.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
Exactly. I don't understand what he's trying to say. The 99% that want Kubiak fired also want the Texans to do good as well (even if that means Kubiak is the head coach). The top 1% can't seem to get it out of their thick heads that we all want to the same goal for the team. Criticizing the team does not mean we hate the team. Criticizing the team doesn't mean we want them to lose and move to California. What kind of reasoning is that?

When does Occupy Reliant start?
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LMAO!

You are getting repped for that one.
 
The "shut up and get in line" routine is weak.

Anyone who tells me I'm a bad fan because I find fault in a player, a coach, a general manager, or an owner is an unqualified moron. Case closed.
 
Lucky said:
Just intelligence-wise.

I know what the problem with this team is. I've been screaming it here (and everywhere else) for since November 2nd, 2008. What about Schaub? What about the OC? The DC? The 2nd string FB? The hurricane? I've heard it all. This team will never become a winner with Gary Kubiak "leading" them. So if the arguments we see after losses look redundant, so too are the excuses for Kubiak's failures. Same $&!%, different thread.
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What happened on Nov 2, 2008? Was that the Titans Monday night game? That's the game that pushed me over the edge and made me realize that Gary has to go.
 
houstonspartan said:
What happened on Nov 2, 2008? Was that the Titans Monday night game? That's the game that pushed me over the edge and made me realize that Gary has to go.
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That was the game for me too.

The stadium was rocking. That game meant more to the fans than it did to the Texans organization. IMHO
 
Vinny said:
being critical of your team doesn't equate to a lack of support...good gravy.
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Mr teX said:
It hasn't mattered Vinny. Even when this team has won people in this town still manage to come here with something negative or "critical" to say. Need an example? After we beat Miami all i saw on here were threads about how weak schaub's arm is.....how bad our run defense is / how we need a space-eating NT...how KJ sucks. It's absolutely maddening. & when we lose.....the same tired discussions get brought up.

That's why i already know, it's not gonna matter whether we finally get to the playoffs this year or not, once we get there & if we lost, the same people will be coming out of the woodworks with the same crap.
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when has this team "won"? This team has issues despite what you hear from the propagandameisters on 610am. Between the Texans controlled media sessions, their in-house 'breakdowns' and the fans that can't discern between critical analysis and Pravdaesque propaganda, I don't know if I should laugh or cry.
 
steelbtexan said:
That was the game for me too.

The stadium was rocking. That game meant more to the fans than it did to the Texans organization. IMHO
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Yup. I was there. It was cool as hell. Outside the stadium before the game was electric. Everyone was fired up. The stadium was off-the-hook inside as well.

What a waste.
 
Vinny said:
when has this team "won"? This team has issues despite what you hear from the propagandameisters on 610am. Between the Texans controlled media sessions, their in-house 'breakdowns' and the fans that can't discern between critical analysis and Pravdaesque propaganda, I don't know if I should laugh or cry.
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LOL. nice.

Jerome Soloman had a blog post about a week or so ago where he talked about a Texans player that pulled him aside last year. The player told him that he was being too negative in the things that he wrote, and that he should be more positive, because fans took their queues from what the media says (as if we're all a bunch of dumb-ass sheep).

Solomon pointed out to this player that the reason fans were negative about the team had more to do with 6 wins and 10 losses than anything a columnist wrote. He was right.

For some reason, this team just doesn't "get it." Kubiak, every year in his speech at the Texans luncheon, asks fans to be in our seats for kickoff. Ok, that's a reasonable request. But he has to do his part by bringing in some more W's. At the Cowboys game last year, I saw people in their seats that didn't normally get there until halftime.

W's is what fans get excited about. Not hype.
 
Mr teX said:
this town doesnt deserve a team, this fan base is terrible....
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You're right, the Astros should move...

Maddict5 said:
top 10 offence?
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I checked the Texans store, and they don't have a t-shirt for that achievement. I'm really disappointed about it, because next to the 80 consecutive sellouts at Reliant, that's the proudest moment in franchise history.
 
Double Barrel said:
I checked the Texans store, and they don't have a t-shirt for that achievement. I'm really disappointed about it, because next to the 80 consecutive sellouts at Reliant, that's the proudest moment in franchise history.
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good job with that sarcastic 'wit'. its the truth though. 1 sub par game against a great D & suddenly revisionist history kicks in & kubiak doesnt know **** about offence either. great insight round here
 
Maddict5 said:
good job with that sarcastic 'wit'. its the truth though. 1 sub par game against a great D & suddenly revisionist history kicks in & kubiak doesnt know **** about offence either. great insight round here
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over the last month this team has lost 3 of the 4 games played. You expect upbeat sunshine?
 
Maddict5 said:
good job with that sarcastic 'wit'. its the truth though. 1 sub par game against a great D & suddenly revisionist history kicks in & kubiak doesnt know **** about offence either. great insight round here
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Revisionist history?

6-10
8-8
8-8
9-7
6-10
3-3

You want puppy dogs and rainbows?
 
Maddict5 said:
good job with that sarcastic 'wit'. its the truth though. 1 sub par game against a great D & suddenly revisionist history kicks in & kubiak doesnt know **** about offence either. great insight round here
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Quick, what was the ranking of the Colts defense when they won a championship?

Some of us understand that stats are just one tool to measure a team, not the be all / end all of evaluation.

But go ahead and wave your pom poms, dude. I certainly won't stop you.
 
:yawn:

ssdy is right. same old argument changing the subject. what does winning have to do with us having a good offence the last few yrs (which is what we are talking about). obviously, our defence which has alternated between bad & diabolical has meant a fair share of that offence performance has been wasted but again... wtf has that got to do with our offensive performance the last few yrs?

love how everyone wants to play the grissled, cynical skeptic though.. and anybody who doesnt join in that everything is f'ed is a cheerleader. solid
 
Maddict5 said:
ha heres more of it. upbeat sunshine? no. some reasonable views other than a big pity party too much to ask for?
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A reasonable view is Kubiak can't coach, Schaub can't QB, and we lose games in the 4th quarter.

You wanna know what the turning point to yesterday was? Going for it on 4th down instead of kicking the field goal. That 3 points would have changed the mentality of the game from top to bottom.

Who doesn't take points when you are on the road? Especially against the Ravens.
 
TEXANRED said:
A reasonable view is Kubiak can't coach, Schaub can't QB, and we lose games in the 4th quarter.

You wanna know what the turning point to yesterday was? Going for it on 4th down instead of kicking the field goal. That 3 points would have changed the mentality of the game from top to bottom.

Who doesn't take points when you are on the road? Especially against the Ravens.
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That was an idiotic move that defied logical football strategy. The 37 yard FG was pretty much a gimmie.
 
Vinny said:
That was an idiotic move that defied logical football strategy. The 37 yard FG was pretty much a gimmie.
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I couldn't believe they went for it either. It was the first quarter. The score was 7-0.

I will never understand that mentality in pro football. You take the points when you can get them, especially against a defense like the Ravens.
 
Vinny said:
That was an idiotic move that defied logical football strategy. The 37 yard FG was pretty much a gimmie.
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like rackers 42 yd fg indoor at home v the raiders?

i love it. garunteed if we kick that fg and lose ppl would be bitching that kubiaks lack of balls by not going for it there cost us the game

also nvm that we got the ball straight back after that failed fg on the fumble recovery and scored a td. ya that was the turning pt that there was no coming back from :rolleyes:
 
Surreal McCoy said:
QFT. Would be hilarious to see the team moved elsewhere. Hell, even LA would support a team better than Houston.

PS - Repped
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Seriously, how has this guy not be neg repped to hell and banned?
 
Maddict5 said:
like rackers 42 yd fg indoor at home v the raiders?

i love it. garunteed if we kick that fg and lose ppl would be bitching that kubiaks lack of balls by not going for it there cost us the game
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You really think that Kubiak makes decisions based on how much the fans peepee hurtz? If so, he's a bigger numbnutz than I thought.
 
Maddict5 said:
like rackers 42 yd fg indoor at home v the raiders?

i love it. garunteed if we kick that fg and lose ppl would be bitching that kubiaks lack of balls by not going for it there cost us the game

also nvm that we got the ball straight back after that failed fg on the fumble recovery and scored a td. ya that was the turning pt that there was no coming back from :rolleyes:
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Logic fail.

The point is its the first quarter and its early in the season. There's no reason to go for it. Zero indication that we wouldn't be able to stay in that game with a field goal.

It also doesn't matter if we forced a fumble there. That has no bearing on Kubiak's decision making prior to their fumble. On top of that, hell we could have kicked the FG then forced the fumble.

3 + 7 = 10.

10>7.
 
Maddict5 said:
ha totally changing the subject. subtle
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you are the one who brought up Kubiak not kicking the FG because of the fans being upset. Now I remember why I didn't engage with you previously. You are kinda incoherent. I'll leave you be.
 
TEXANRED said:
A reasonable view is Kubiak can't coach, Schaub can't QB, and we lose games in the 4th quarter.

You wanna know what the turning point to yesterday was? Going for it on 4th down instead of kicking the field goal. That 3 points would have changed the mentality of the game from top to bottom.

Who doesn't take points when you are on the road? Especially against the Ravens.
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Good post. I think it was a dumb decision too. Although I hesitate to call it the turning point. We still went into halftime only down 3 points. We scored 7 points in the 2nd half while giving up 16. What happened during halftime, I dont know. But the team that came out of the tunnel either didnt think they would win, or even that they could win.
 
TEXANRED said:
You wanna know what the turning point to yesterday was? Going for it on 4th down instead of kicking the field goal. That 3 points would have changed the mentality of the game from top to bottom.
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I think that was the right call. I didn't care for that play, didn't care for the execution. But I liked the call.

You want Gary Kubiak to not be conservative? To take a risk? To tell his players, I believe in you? To give them an opportunity to earn your love..... that was it. That was our opportunity to pop them in the mouth.

Didn't happen.

But Wade's team came & answered the bell. Tim Jamison..... yup, Tim Jamison stepped up. Not those overpaid yahoos on offense, Tim Jamison manned up & got the ball back, all by himself. Stripped the ball, recovered the ball, gift wrapped a freak'n touchdown

& Even Steven's team almost gave that away.
 
thunderkyss said:
I think that was the right call. I didn't care for that play, didn't care for the execution. But I liked the call.
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why? Have you ever noticed that nearly every single coach you have ever watched has kicked a FG in this situation?
 
Vinny said:
why? Have you ever noticed that nearly every single coach you have ever watched has kicked a FG in this situation?
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I agree with Vinny. You just dont see coaches passing up a 30 yard field goal in the first half when you are only down 7 with 7 minutes left in the 2nd quarter. Us getting the ball right back only proves that further. So instead of being up 10-7 we are tied 7-7.

And on top of that its not like we are that great in the red zone. Had we converted the 4th and 1 we still had 20 yards to go to cash in on the gamble. Had we been inside the 1 yard line that is a different story. In that situation you can take that risk because the payoff is 6 points. Not a first down with 20 yards to go for 6 points.
 
It was dumb to go for it and even more dumb to run the ball straight in to the strength of the Ravens defense on a short yardage play with our zone blocking offensive line. How many times had we converted on 3rd downs throwing the ball up untill that point?

I want Kubiak to be successful as much as anyone but dude does'nt seem to be improving as a head coach. Instead of doing the smart thing he just ran some play and "really wished with all his might" that somehow a first down would fall from the sky.
 
Mr teX said:
Well if you're tired of losing & you truly feel that way, go support a team that's winning...that'll save me from having to read your idiotic posts.
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Or you could just grow a freaking pair and have thicker skin....or actually raise the freaking bar and expect more out of your team. How about that? Oh and the only post that's "idiotic" here is your's. It's completely idiotic to sit here and make excuse after excuse after excuse for why a man can't even look around a corner, much less get this team to turn one.


What y'all call "impatience", us "sane" people call insanity. You "sunshiners" are the biggest joke on this board. You attack fellow fans and hurl insult after insult at them for just pointing out the obvious. You tell them they're being "impatient" or you even tell them that "they don't deserve a team" (which is BY FAR the DUMBEST thing ever written on this board.). Well us "sane" people just look at y'all like your a bunch of loons...you're wanting to do the same thing year in and year out, but you expect different results...now what does that make you again?

Oh P.S.

Don't tell me to go follow another team.. Who are you to judge a person's fandom? You aren't special and you aren't a bigger fan than anyone else who posts on this board so get off your high horse.
 
Mr teX said:
It hasn't mattered Vinny. Even when this team has won people in this town still manage to come here with something negative or "critical" to say. Need an example? After we beat Miami all i saw on here were threads about how weak schaub's arm is.....how bad our run defense is / how we need a space-eating NT...how KJ sucks. It's absolutely maddening. & when we lose.....the same tired discussions get brought up.

That's why i already know, it's not gonna matter whether we finally get to the playoffs this year or not, once we get there & if we lost, the same people will be coming out of the woodworks with the same crap.
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WELCOME TO EVERY OTHER MESSEAGE BOARD IN THE NFL. :vincepalm:

You're criticizing a city for doing the same crap that EVERY OTHER TEAM'S FANS DO...and it's just as moronic as the posts that you mention above.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Well us "sane" people just look at y'all like your a bunch of loons...you're wanting to do the same thing year in and year out, but you expect different results...now what does that make you again?
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Well, technically, you guys have been doing the same thing for the last 3 or 4 years... fire this, fire that, get rid of so & so, stop starting that guy, blah, blah, blah...

& nothing's changed. You expect different results every year... & it ain't happened yet.

So what does that make you again?

I personally don't see the point in getting that worked up about it. Kubiak's here, Jacoby's here, Matt Schaub, Rick Smith.... they ain't going nowhere.

Sit back & enjoy.

I never understood how people can get up & start drinking early... before noon. Now, I don't know how I make it to nine.
 
Vinny said:
That was an idiotic move that defied logical football strategy. The 37 yard FG was pretty much a gimmie.
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yep, I screamed at the TV on that one.. "You take the points on the road "esp in the 1st quarter and in a game where I thought the scoring would be tough to come by
 
thunderkyss said:
Well, technically, you guys have been doing the same thing for the last 3 or 4 years... fire this, fire that, get rid of so & so, stop starting that guy, blah, blah, blah...

& nothing's changed. You expect different results every year... & it ain't happened yet.

So what does that make you again?

I personally don't see the point in getting that worked up about it. Kubiak's here, Jacoby's here, Matt Schaub, Rick Smith.... they ain't going nowhere.

Sit back & enjoy.

I never understood how people can get up & start drinking early... before noon. Now, I don't know how I make it to nine.
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exactly why they want change...nothing has changed. Kubiak took over a 6-10 team and 4 years later we have....a 6-10 team. Nothing has changed. exactamundo
 
ITT sunshine pumpers continue to get proven wrong, but they still believe Kubiak will break through, despite jot having any evidence that that will happen.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Or you could just grow a freaking pair and have thicker skin....or actually raise the freaking bar and expect more out of your team. How about that? Oh and the only post that's "idiotic" here is your's. It's completely idiotic to sit here and make excuse after excuse after excuse for why a man can't even look around a corner, much less get this team to turn one.


What y'all call "impatience", us "sane" people call insanity. You "sunshiners" are the biggest joke on this board. You attack fellow fans and hurl insult after insult at them for just pointing out the obvious. You tell them they're being "impatient" or you even tell them that "they don't deserve a team" (which is BY FAR the DUMBEST thing ever written on this board.). Well us "sane" people just look at y'all like your a bunch of loons...you're wanting to do the same thing year in and year out, but you expect different results...now what does that make you again?

Oh P.S.

Don't tell me to go follow another team.. Who are you to judge a person's fandom? You aren't special and you aren't a bigger fan than anyone else who posts on this board so get off your high horse.
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I don't agree with stop following the team or moving the team but I find it funny how you say us 'sunshiners' are the ones calling people names yet that is all you do in this very post.

I rarely result to name calling and didn't do so, I merely make an observation from my experience with other fans. That is that they are generally impatient. I never called you impatient or anyone else.

I really don't understand sometimes why there is such a division on this board. Like you must pick a side when most everyone would like Kubiak and Smith replaced. But since some of us don't spit the same vitriol they are 'sunshiners' shame on the fans that aren't jumping off the wagon after losing the first game.
 
thunderkyss said:
Well, technically, you guys have been doing the same thing for the last 3 or 4 years... fire this, fire that, get rid of so & so, stop starting that guy, blah, blah, blah...

& nothing's changed. You expect different results every year... & it ain't happened yet.

So what does that make you again?

I personally don't see the point in getting that worked up about it. Kubiak's here, Jacoby's here, Matt Schaub, Rick Smith.... they ain't going nowhere.

Sit back & enjoy.

I never understood how people can get up & start drinking early... before noon. Now, I don't know how I make it to nine.
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Umm actually WE HAVEN'T...We've been saying FIRE KUBIAK for the last 2 or 3 seasons and that hasn't happened yet. That pink soap doesn't say "fire this, fire that, get rid of so & so, stop starting that guy, blah, blah, blah" club..

Stop bringing every single problem and negative thing said about this team into this thread and stick to the topic that this thread is about. Against popular belief, the "Fire Kubiak" club aren't the only people who have negative things to say about this team. Your post and your attempt to call me "insane" was a stretch at best.
 
Maddict5 said:
what does winning have to do with us
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The only part of your post that was relevant. :brando:

I could honestly care less if you want to be a so-called "grissled, cynical skeptic" (kinda' redundant, 'eh?), or a cheerleader with rainbows shooting out of your butt.

The fact that you try to go postal on fans who are not quite as satisfied with perpetual mediocrity as you seem to be says a lot about your mentality more than anything else.

Do you know what a top 10 offense that can't win games gets at the end of the season?
 
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