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Where's all the people who bashed posters for wanting to run Kubiak out of town at now? Here we are again playing .500 football.


You can change everything about this team and it will not matter....one thing is always consistent. Kubiak will find ways to lose and this team will play uninspired football under him. Just for argument sake, lets all agree this team will still make the playoffs in this weak ass division.. What will it matter? The teams that Kubaik can't beat are the same teams that we will be playing in the playoffs and Peyton will be back again next year.

All we're doing is spinning our wheels in the mud with this guy.. in the meantime Andre Johnson's brilliant career is being absolutely wasted. Gary Kubiak is our Wayne Fontes...and that's a insult to Wayne fontes.
 
Where's all the people who bashed posters for wanting to run Kubiak out of town at now? Here we are again playing .500 football.


You can change everything about this team and it will not matter....one thing is always consistent. Kubiak will find ways to lose and this team will play uninspired football under him. Just for argument sake, lets all agree this team will still make the playoffs in this weak ass division.. What will it matter? The teams that Kubaik can't beat are the same teams that we will be playing in the playoffs and Peyton will be back again next year.

All we're doing is spinning our wheels in the mud with this guy.. in the meantime Andre Johnson's brilliant career is being absolutely wasted. Gary Kubiak is our Wayne Fontes...and that's a insult to Wayne fontes.

Whats the deal with the title of thread???
 
Where's all the people who bashed posters for wanting to run Kubiak out of town at now? Here we are again playing .500 football.


You can change everything about this team and it will not matter....one thing is always consistent. Kubiak will find ways to lose and this team will play uninspired football under him. Just for argument sake, lets all agree this team will still make the playoffs in this weak ass division.. What will it matter? The teams that Kubaik can't beat are the same teams that we will be playing in the playoffs and Peyton will be back again next year.

All we're doing is spinning our wheels in the mud with this guy.. in the meantime Andre Johnson's brilliant career is being absolutely wasted. Gary Kubiak is our Wayne Fontes...and that's a insult to Wayne fontes.

don't just blame kubiak, schaub sucks. our luck kubiak will find another job witha real qb and light it up. i blame schaub more than kubiak
 
Unfortunately, 1 of 2 things will happen following this season. Either we make the playoffs (or juuuuust miss it and McNair excuses the failure) and GK is still here, or we fail again and Wade Phillips slides in. Yep. No hope in sight.
 
When are we going to blame some players? Seems like never.

:rolleyes: NEWSFLASH...these are HIS PLAYERS....HIS PLAYERS!

When the hell are we going to finally hold a losing head coach responsible for gee IDK...losing ball games? Answer me that one. You can change the players (and we have), you can change the assistant coaches (and we have) and NOTHING CHANGES. The results are always the same.

Even if we didn't have the mistakes at the end and found ourselves in a tighter ball game, we still had little shot at winning this freaking game, because once again we spent all of our damn timeouts. This guy can't manage a clock to save his life and he doesn't give a **** about 2nd half timeouts. You can give him every player that he would ever need and he'll still outsmart himself in the end and find a way to screw it all up.
 
:rolleyes: NEWSFLASH...these are HIS PLAYERS....HIS PLAYERS!

When the hell are we going to finally hold a losing head coach responsible? Answer me that one. You can change the players (and we have), you can change the assistant coaches (and we have) and NOTHING CHANGES.

Even if we didn't have the mistakes at the end, we still had little shot at winning this freaking game, because once again we spent all of our damn timeouts. This guy can't manage a clock to save his life and he doesn't give a **** about 2nd half timeouts. You can give him every player that he would ever need and he'll still outsmart himself in the end and find a way to screw it all up.

Who called those timeouts, Gary or Matt?
 
:rolleyes: NEWSFLASH...these are HIS PLAYERS....HIS PLAYERS!

When the hell are we going to finally hold a losing head coach responsible for gee IDK...losing ball games? Answer me that one. You can change the players (and we have), you can change the assistant coaches (and we have) and NOTHING CHANGES.

Even if we didn't have the mistakes at the end, we still had little shot at winning this freaking game, because once again we spent all of our damn timeouts. This guy can't manage a clock to save his life and he doesn't give a **** about 2nd half timeouts. You can give him every player that he would ever need and he'll still outsmart himself in the end and find a way to screw it all up.

right, perfect storm. our HC and QB suck
 
Where are the people that actually wanted Kubiak to be bought back?

I know there were one or two and I sure as hell wasn't one of them.
 
Jim Harbaugh found a way to go to 5-1 with Alex Smith at QB.

You're telling me the 49ers have more talent overall than the Texans do?

I remember posters saying we shouldn't change coaches because of the lockout. Well look at them Niners. Just another team to add to the list. Now where is the pink soap?
 
Where can I get my pink soap? I said give Kubs another year last year. Now I don't even want him to get on the team bus to the airport.
 
:rolleyes: NEWSFLASH...these are HIS PLAYERS....HIS PLAYERS!

When the hell are we going to finally hold a losing head coach responsible for gee IDK...losing ball games? Answer me that one. You can change the players (and we have), you can change the assistant coaches (and we have) and NOTHING CHANGES. The results are always the same.

Even if we didn't have the mistakes at the end and found ourselves in a tighter ball game, we still had little shot at winning this freaking game, because once again we spent all of our damn timeouts. This guy can't manage a clock to save his life and he doesn't give a **** about 2nd half timeouts. You can give him every player that he would ever need and he'll still outsmart himself in the end and find a way to screw it all up.

They were in position today. This isn't some bullshit where "its all Gary"...drops, stupid mistakes, poor execution....blame the coach all you want.

Not one post on Arian's stupidity....not one.
 
this town doesnt deserve a team, this fan base is terrible....

Why? Because they are tired of losing in the exact same ways for almost six years now? Tires of the same coach not having his team prepared, not showing enough passion, not managing the clock well, etc. When is enough enough? Why are so many people so hung up on Kubiak like he can do no wrong? Why are we the only team that still has a head coach that hasn't made the playoffs yet entering his sixth season? Is Kubiak just going to "get it" randomly in your eyes? Is that it?
 
this town doesnt deserve a team, this fan base is terrible....

It's only just the collective frustrations of all Houston teams being irrelevant. There is really no major sports team to hang our hats on. I tihnk the Houston sports fans are generally just impatient...

With that said Kubiak should have been let go awhile ago. This 2nd half let down has become a trend again this season and also falling short of winning games they are in. Also the poor road record etc etc.
 
Who called those timeouts, Gary or Matt?

Matt Schaub called the first one...Gary called the 2nd one. But I'm not even talking about just this game....I'M TALKING ABOUT EVERY GAME WHERE THIS MAN PISSES OFF TIMEOUTS.

The man can not manage a football game. How about last week where he wasted a TO challenging a play that had 0 chance of ever being overturned? Gee that TO would've came in handy since it took 10+ seconds for our team to run down the field and spike the ball. If we had that TO the Matt Schaub "choke play" would've never happened, because he would've had at least 17 seconds on the clock and enough time to get 3 plays off.

Gary Kubiak creates his OWN damn bad luck, so it's time Texan fans stop giving him the excuse of just "bad luck". This guy is sinking and in over his head...he needs to be drug out to the middle of the field and be put out of his misery.
 
It's only just the collective frustrations of all Houston teams being irrelevant. There is really no major sports team to hang our hats on. I tihnk the Houston sports fans are generally just impatient...

With that said Kubiak should have been let go awhile ago. This 2nd half let down has become a trend again this season and also falling short of winning games they are in. Also the poor road record etc etc.

This doesn't have **** to do with any other sports team in this city. This football team can create enough frustration all by themselves. This is Texas, it's still a football state. The Rockets and Astros could be winning titles left and right and the fans here would still be highly upset at the Texans ineptitude. And how dare you say fans are generally impatient...sorry, but that's a flat out ridiculous statement. This is the same city who has sold out ever damn game despite 0 results. "Patience" is the last issue regarding this city and their fans :rolleyes:
 
What's so terrible about a fan base who wants a 6-year sorry ass
head coach fired? Give our team a chance, please!

nothing....but there's only so much blame you can put on a coach for players not executing on the field...period.
 
this town doesnt deserve a team, this fan base is terrible....

What a joke. McNair and Kubiak are terrorizing this town with this garbage. This is an incredibly patient town. Any other city, pitchforks would have been brought out years ago
 
:yawn:

does this mean i can start a thread about this thread if we win our next few games? again :yawn: but whatever floats your boat. you're very quick to start threads like these. hows cushing looking now? can i start a thread on that? :yawn:

btw since we're gonna ***** about how the ravens outclassed the texans... how about those ravens fans? just sayin'
 
This doesn't have **** to do with any other sports team in this city. This football team can create enough frustration all by themselves. This is Texas, it's still a football state. The Rockets and Astros could be winning titles left and right and the fans here would still be highly upset at the Texans ineptitude. And how dare you say fans are generally impatient...sorry, but that's a flat out ridiculous statement. This is the same city who has sold out ever damn game despite 0 results. "Patience" is the last issue regarding this city and their fans :rolleyes:

Lol and look at most of the reaction today. You are right, fans are really patient when not even half the season has been played.

Not even talking about attendance so I don't know where that came from so I'm not even going to respond to it.
 
this town doesn't deserve a team, this fan base is terrible....

No sir...it is you that is terrible and if you can't recognize what slaps you in the face every Sunday that's a issue that you need to address yourself instead of degrading a whole city filled with devoted fans.

Nut up and stop being such a pushover. If you were to be completely honest, this team doesn't "deserve" US, because it is US who have made this team one of the most profitable franchises in the entire world. How dare you say we don't deserve a team, that's flat out ridiculous and a straight loser's mentality. Sorry unlike you, I'm tired of losing...it's time to hold this team's (coach's) feet to the fire. If he loses against Tenn, I'd straight fire Gary Kubiak if I was Bob McNair.
 
don't just blame kubiak, schaub sucks. our luck kubiak will find another job witha real qb and light it up. i blame schaub more than kubiak


Kubiak chose Schaub and Kubiak sticks with Schaub. Kubiak doesn't know how to pick a real QB. Odd as that sounds the man has worked with Steve Young and John Elway yet doesn't appear to be able to identify the quality that made those men special.

Doesn't exactly instill a lot of confidence does it?
 
How dare you say we don't deserve a team, that's flat out ridiculous and a straight loser's mentality. Sorry unlike you, I'm tired of losing...it's time to hold this team's (coach's) feet to the fire. If he loses against Tenn, I'd straight fire Gary Kubiak if I was Bob McNair.

it deserves a team alright.... but a winning team?

didnt see the ravens fans wait until the 2nd to make it into the stadium. that was one mf'ing loud stadium throughout the game. reliant has been like that as often as a kubiak away win against a winning team
 
Lol and look at most of the reaction today. You are right, fans are really patient when not even half the season has been played.

:vincepalm: What are you even talking about...did you happen to read the title of this thread before you clicked on it? This doesn't have crap to do with "just this one game". Anybody who says Texan fans are being "impatient" must be someone who either..

A.) just hopped on board this "Fail wagon" or..

B.) Doesn't have a remote clue of what they are talking about...this has been one of the most patient fan bases in the entire league.

Seriously, do you even watch football in other cities? I mean you do realize other cities are struggling against blackouts when their team doesn't win don't you?

Not even talking about attendance so I don't know where that came from so I'm not even going to respond to it.

:rolleyes: Oh lord, what do you mean you don't know where it came from...you flat out said the fans in this city are "impatient". NEWSFLASH impatient fans don't sell out every seat for a freaking decade.. Impatient fans don't generate the revenue to allow their team to be one of the most profitable sports franchises on the planet. THAT'S WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
 
This doesn't have **** to do with any other sports team in this city. This football team can create enough frustration all by themselves. This is Texas, it's still a football state. The Rockets and Astros could be winning titles left and right and the fans here would still be highly upset at the Texans ineptitude. And how dare you say fans are generally impatient...sorry, but that's a flat out ridiculous statement. This is the same city who has sold out ever damn game despite 0 results. "Patience" is the last issue regarding this city and their fans :rolleyes:

Mannnnn we get it...but you should go get a drink or get laid...ur too uptight (don't take it as an insult). Fans wanted changes and we got FAs and a new legit D-coordinator...I firmly believe if we don't win this division Kubiak will get fired. If Kubiak gets fired I am willing to go thru the potential ups and downs that may come with that.
 
nothing....but there's only so much blame you can put on a coach for players not executing on the field...period.


That kind of goes out the window after 6 years. You see this coach has been picking players (along with his hand picked GM) and coaching them for 6 years. Once you get past a certain point you really can't point any fingers at anyone but yourself.

Your players can't execute? You coach them. You chose them. Who's fault is it that you picked lousy players? It's your fault.

More often than not bad coaches and bad personnel evaluators don't get to keep their jobs this long. More often than not they're gone after year three.

Not here. Here it's all on Gary and you should know that by now.
 
it deserves a team alright.... but a winning team?

didnt see the ravens fans wait until the 2nd to make it into the stadium. that was one mf'ing loud stadium throughout the game. reliant has been like that as often as a Kubiak away win against a winning team

LMAO, the Ravens make the playoffs every year...lets give them a decade of sucktitude and then judge how great their morale is :vincepalm:
 
I kept the soap up...Almost wanting to not go 9-7 and win the division, as it will re-up Kubiak.. I just don't think he has the ability to be a HC, never have... His records don't lie..


HOU 2006 6 10 0 .375 4th in AFC South - - - -
HOU 2007 8 8 0 .500 4th in AFC South - - - -
HOU 2008 8 8 0 .500 3rd in AFC South - - - -
HOU 2009 9 7 0 .563 2nd in AFC South - - - -
HOU 2010 6 10 0 .375 3rd in AFC South - - - -
 
LMAO, the Ravens make the playoffs every year...lets give them a decade of sucktitude and then judge how great their morale is :vincepalm:

chicken or egg?

didnt realise the getting into the stadium late thing was a recent phenomenom caused by our decade of non-playoffs

cleveland teams suck. doesnt stop their fans still getting behind the team
 
Mannnnn we get it...but you should go get a drink or get laid...ur too uptight (don't take it as an insult). Fans wanted changes and we got FAs and a new legit D-coordinator...I firmly believe if we don't win this division Kubiak will get fired. If Kubiak gets fired I am willing to go thru the potential ups and downs that may come with that.

How about you go get a drink and get laid,

I've already have a drink and will lay wherever I please later on.

None of that has jack crap to do with this thread...last I checked this is a football message board. Guess what people do here...they discuss football. :vincepalm:

Damn I'm beginning to think the Texans' P.R. department is bank rolling some of the posters here. I've never seen people so willing to defend failure in my life. (oops, yeah I have...but I'll reserve that convo for the "No spin zone".)
 
I thought we had a chance in this game. I thought we'd cover 8 points, easy. I was wrong.

A few observations.

  1. The defense isn't as good as we think it is... We're missing Mario.. so there's that excuse... we're not supposed to be that good right now anyway
  2. Our offense should have done better against that defense. I didn't see enough of that Baltimore D to explain 56% completion
  3. That is not the best OL in the league
  4. We've got work to do

Where was the Dog & the Ninja?

@Tennessee, Jacksonville, Cleveland, @ Tampa Bay

We've got an opportunity to get 4 wins, get to 7-3 before the bye.

@Jacksonville, Atlanta, @ Cincinnati, Carolina, @Indianapolis, Tennessee

We can lose three of those games (Atlanta, Cinci, Carolina) & still finish with 10 wins.

Kubiak can't screw this up.
 
Guess what? Same ole Texans. I'm still hoping that with our easy schedule and pathetic division we still might sneak in a playoff game this year. But, knowing the Texans.........:kubepalm:
 
Kubiak chose Schaub and Kubiak sticks with Schaub. Kubiak doesn't know how to pick a real QB. Odd as that sounds the man has worked with Steve Young and John Elway yet doesn't appear to be able to identify the quality that made those men special.

Doesn't exactly instill a lot of confidence does it?

can't argue
 
chicken or egg?

didn't realize the getting into the stadium late thing was a recent phenomenon caused by our decade of non-playoffs

cleveland teams suck. doesn't stop their fans still getting behind the team

Teams with warm weather and plenty of things to do generally show up late and leave early. If you think this has ANYTHING to do solely with Houston you are mistaken. You're also mistaken if you think that behavior excuses any of this teams shortcomings.

Now please proceed to tell me how I don't deserve a team...after all it's such a great and intelligent argument.
 
What's so terrible about a fan base who wants a 6-year sorry ass
head coach fired? Give our team a chance, please!

nothing......but if you think this teams failings will be corrected by replacing 1 man your fooling yourself.
 
:vincepalm: What are you even talking about...did you happen to read the title of this thread before you clicked on it? This doesn't have crap to do with "just this one game". Anybody who says Texan fans are being "impatient" must be someone who either..

A.) just hopped on board this "Fail wagon" or..

B.) Doesn't have a remote clue of what they are talking about...this has been one of the most patient fan bases in the entire league.

Seriously, do you even watch football in other cities? I mean you do realize other cities are struggling against blackouts when their team doesn't win don't you?



:rolleyes: Oh lord, what do you mean you don't know where it came from...you flat out said the fans in this city are "impatient". NEWSFLASH impatient fans don't sell out every seat for a freaking decade.. Impatient fans don't generate the revenue to allow their team to be one of the most profitable sports franchises on the planet. THAT'S WHERE THAT CAME FROM.


Remember how we should have traded Mario...in preseason!? How the OLB thing wasn't going to work out... The same ones ready to call the season a bust after one loss? Houston fans are impatient and almost a bit paranoid it seems. This has NOTHING to do with the attendance as it does the mind-set of this city. There are not going to be many people saying "Chill, there is more than half a season left to play."

The attendance is a product of living in Texas and in a huge market. Just like New York fans are not known for their patience yet are able to sell out Knicks game no matter their futility. Their attendance has more to do with their loyalty to the team.

But really, why so serious? It's my opinion that Houston fans are generally impatient and it really has nothing to do with "OMG HOW MANY GAMES HAVE YOU WATCHED???"
 
Teams with warm weather and plenty of things to do generally show up late and leave early. If you think this has ANYTHING to do solely with Houston you are mistaken. You're also mistaken if you think that behavior excuses any of this teams shortcomings.

Now please proceed to tell me how I don't deserve a team...after all it's such a great and intelligent argument.

fitting of the thread probably....

but now never even said you dont deserve a team. you must have me confused with someone else (see that was easy- no 8 paragraph rant) ;)
 
Remember how we should have traded Mario...in preseason!? How the OLB thing wasn't going to work out... The same ones ready to call the season a bust after one loss? Houston fans are impatient and almost a bit paranoid it seems. This has NOTHING to do with the attendance as it does the mind-set of this city. There are not going to be many people saying "Chill, there is more than half a season left to play."

The attendance is a product of living in Texas and in a huge market. Just like New York fans are not known for their patience yet are able to sell out Knicks game no matter their futility. Their attendance has more to do with their loyalty to the team.

But really, why so serious? It's my opinion that Houston fans are generally impatient and it really has nothing to do with "OMG HOW MANY GAMES HAVE YOU WATCHED???"

You seriously don't have a clue of what you're talking about...the random message board talk that happens here...you know like the stuff you mentioned above. You are delusional if you think that same stuff doesn't happen on 31 other forums in this league. Damn i guess the NFL might as well close up shop, because there isn't a city in this league that deserves a team now.

Also you're completely off your rocker if you don't think "patient fans" have anything to do with consistent tickets sales. Your "its a big market" argument is absolute failure...all you have to do is look across the way at minute maid park :vincepalm: Guess what buddy, they play in a "big market too" and that place was a ghost town...same thing with the Rockets in year's past. Texan fans selling out every seat at Relient isn't just a "given" and it isn't just because they have a healthy market....especially given today's economic downturn and the every rising prices included in attending a football game. Your argument is a stretch at best. THIS IS A PATIENT FAN BASE... Almost patient to a fault.
 
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