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McNair Will Keep Kubiak....Announcement forthcoming

Why do people always assume that because you are rich that you are smart? Contracts are awarded and businesses are promoted on "connections" not intelligence. It is not "what" you know but "who" you know. And this does not help you at all when it comes to building a winning sports franchise.

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Houston_Fanatic said:
Why do people always assume that because you are rich that you are smart? Contracts are awarded and businesses are promoted on "connections" not intelligence. It is not "what" you know but "who" you know. And this does not help you at all when it comes to building a winning sports franchise.

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True but painful. I am actually thinking of converting to be a Cowboys fan after 50 friggin years of sh*t with Houston. And that comes from someone that was born at St. Joesephs downtown. 50 years of losing and all I get is McNair. What a joke.
 
**** like this makes me happy that I'll be out of the country next year and unable to watch games live unless I want to be up at 3am for kickoff. It's easier just to check ESPN and see that we lost by 1 point by getting a hold in the endzone while we were in the victory formation.
 
bckey said:
True but painful. I am actually thinking of converting to be a Cowboys fan after 50 friggin years of sh*t with Houston. And that comes from someone that was born at St. Joesephs downtown. 50 years of losing and all I get is McNair. What a joke.
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Honestly, I can't blame you for thinking like that....and I hate that team. However, they do not put up with B.S. like this and nobody here can realistically knock on the Cowboys. For as big of a ass as Jerry Jones is, he's miles ahead of McNair and a MUCH better owner. Even if he's self destructive at times, atleast there's accountability and he demands a winner.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Honestly, I can't blame you for thinking like that....and I hate that team. However, they do not put up with B.S. like this and nobody here can realistically knock on the Cowboys. For as big of a ass as Jerry Jones is, he's miles ahead of McNair and a MUCH better owner, even if he's self destructive at times, atleast there's accountability and he demands a winner.
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Jerry Jones said on 60 minutes a few weeks ago: "Stats are for losers."

All he cares about are W's.

The guy can be a buffoon, but I respect his drive.
 
We are NFL Aggy.

PERIOD. See this is my problem...let's say we do indeed make the playoffs next year...(ha, yeah right...it's no wonder this was my only year I chose them to make it..NEVER AGAIN with this regime)

coaching is going to get us beat in the playoffs, too.

And guess what??? We'll all be back saying Kubiak should be fired. But he won't, because the owner saw a playoff year that was obviously done in SPITE of this coach.

But hey, I gotta support em...I don't know any other way...

I HATE this move, but...

It is what it is.
 
McNair better be F'n serious about having "drastic" changes on the defensive side of the ball (since hes keeping Kubiak). If hes just talking about coaching changes then itll be another season of :kubepalm: with :wadepalm:. We better go out and get top notch players on defense. Trade for a Nnamdi Asomugha, Open up the pocket book in FA, make Rick Smith get not just one but dozens of players in FA. Since this is the road we are (likely) taking, the defense next year better be unrecognizable.
 
I'm getting ready for the announcement on Monday. The only thing that'll make this medicine go down any easier is if Wade Phillips is actually at the press conference.

I think it's a no-brainer to bring in that guy. It'll be the first real DC that the Texans have ever had.
 
If this rumor comes true then the Texans don't need a new HC, they need a new owner. This is ridiculous and McNair is an *****.
 
NitroHonda said:
McNair can announce whatever he wants. I'll continue to wait until Black Monday to get here. A lot can happen between then. I'm especially going to be interested in how the players and fans respond. Reliant's going to be a mess come Sunday.

Whatever happens... go Texans.
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It's the only thing most fans have to hope for. If Reliant is a mess on Sunday (fans not showing up, no enthusiasm in the crowd, and players show even more quit on Kubiak), then I don't know how McNair can keep him. They Texans not knowing what the hell they are doing as made me an even bigger Rockets fan. That's a franchise dedicated to winning.
 
Does anyone else find it odd that a coach with playoff wins and multiple 10+ win seasons at his previous head coaching job would immediately take a demotion and go coordinate for a coach whose never done either of those things (playoffs, 10+ wins)?

I don't think Wade Phillips will take a defensive coordinator job (especially a mess like ours) without testing the head coaching waters for a few years.
 
I guess I'm one of the few that likes this. I figured this was the most likely scenario since Phillips was fired and said he'd be happy to be a DC. I think he'll be a good coordinator for us. I think this is the quickest route to the playoffs for us.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
I guess I'm one of the few that likes this. I figured this was the most likely scenario since Phillips was fired and said he'd be happy to be a DC. I think he'll be a good coordinator for us. I think this is the quickest route to the playoffs for us.
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Hell, I'll go on record stating I like this move, too. If Kubiak stays, a defensive guru must come in. Hopefully, the new DC-Assistant head coach, knowing how to construct a defense, can help guide player evaluation.
 
I'm refraining from losing my mind until after the season is over and a decision is made. I refuse to base my insanity off rumors.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
I guess I'm one of the few that likes this. I figured this was the most likely scenario since Phillips was fired and said he'd be happy to be a DC. I think he'll be a good coordinator for us. I think this is the quickest route to the playoffs for us.
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I don't particularly like the move but I'm not so upset by it that I'll be setting children on fire in the offseason. I'm interested in seeing what scheme we use and how the defense changes over the course of the offseason. But I don't have the hope of us going anywhere or doing anything next year like I did before this season started.
 
b0ng said:
I don't particularly like the move but I'm not so upset by it that I'll be setting children on fire in the offseason. I'm interested in seeing what scheme we use and how the defense changes over the course of the offseason. But I don't have the hope of us going anywhere or doing anything next year like I did before this season started.
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I'm pretty sure the defense will improve, but Kubiak has shown me exactly nothing as a HC that has me believe he will improve. It will be another season with nice stats, but no results.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
I'm pretty sure the defense will improve, but Kubiak has shown me exactly nothing as a HC that has me believe he will improve. It will be another season with nice stats, but no results.
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6-10(8-10 with 18 gms) or 8-8 (9-9)...


No playoffs, and if they do get there...1st round and out by way of ROUT on the road.
 
Whatever.....just whatever. That's what this team, this head coach, this owner, this organization has become to me....just whatever.
 
ThaShark316 said:
Most people's (not mine...) thoughts on the Astros.
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These thoughts drive me crazy. I love Houston sports teams because it is where I'm from and I can't imagine chering for any other.

But why? I've stepped in the city maybe twice in the last 10 years and not lived there in 17. I follow the teams religiously and what do I get in return? A nice swift kick in the balls.

I have been all over the world and have been the only Houston sports fan that I know of. A sports bar I frequented in VA Beach felt so bad for me after the 2 win season that they let me drink for free.

I've run into ONE other Houston Texan fan in my travels and that was in Jacksnoville, NC. I asked if she was from Houston and she said "No. I just pick the worst team I can find and follow them till they win a Super Bowl."

My wife is from Saint Louis and it's extremely difficult not to jump on board that train. At least I can call the Rams my NFC team, Super Bowl wins and currently on the rebound.

I feel like I might as well be from Cleveland.

I hate to say it but absolutely no one, and I mean NO ONE outside of Houston could give a rats ass about Houston sports and that's a shame and it frustrates the absolute crap out of me.
 
Txn_in_ROK said:
These thoughts drive me crazy. I love Houston sports teams because it is where I'm from and I can't imagine chering for any other.

But why? I've stepped in the city maybe twice in the last 10 years and not lived there in 17. I follow the teams religiously and what do I get in return? A nice swift kick in the balls.

I have been all over the world and have been the only Houston sports fan that I know of. A sports bar I frequented in VA Beach felt so bad for me after the 2 win season that they let me drink for free.

I've run into ONE other Houston Texan fan in my travels and that was in Jacksnoville, NC. I asked if she was from Houston and she said "No. I just pick the worst team I can find and follow them till they win a Super Bowl."

My wife is from Saint Louis and it's extremely difficult not to jump on board that train. At least I can call the Rams my NFC team, Super Bowl wins and currently on the rebound.

I feel like I might as well be from Cleveland.

I hate to say it but absolutely no one, and I mean NO ONE outside of Houston could give a rats ass about Houston sports and that's a shame and it frustrates the absolute crap out of me.
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I think the Rockets are at least relevant.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
Somebody had to win those two championships (despite Jordan playing in the playoffs during the Rockets' second championship run).
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I wouldn't call them very relevent though. Being Houston sports fan sucks because no one outside the city cares. You can fnd Cubs fans everywhere. Browns? Yep, find them too. KC Royals, no, but I can find Chiefs fans.

Houston? Never. Whether it's Rockets, Astros or Texans there are no fans to be found.

I don't know why this drives me nuts. Maybe it's the fact that I feel alone in my misery and it's really getting old.
 
I can stand behind this as long as Bob tells them its playoffs or fired next year. Wade couldn't make it as head coach but neither could Capers but he runs a good defense, same could be said with Phillips.I say get him in here and see what happens.Could take some pressure off of Kubiak allow him to couch better and not hold Bush's hand.You have to wonder if the defense was 50% better could we have managed the clock better and be in the playoffs.(Then we would not be wanting Kubiak out of here)
 
Txn_in_ROK said:
I wouldn't call them very relevent though. Being Houston sports fan sucks because no one outside the city cares. You can fnd Cubs fans everywhere. Browns? Yep, find them too. KC Royals, no, but I can find Chiefs fans.

Houston? Never. Whether it's Rockets, Astros or Texans there are no fans to be found.

I don't know why this drives me nuts. Maybe it's the fact that I feel alone in my misery and it's really getting old.
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The Rockets actually have fans all over. Ever catch a Rockets game when they are the away team? Look at the crowd. You'll see plenty of Rockets Red.

TEXANJAK said:
I can stand behind this as long as Bob tells them its playoffs or fired next year. Wade couldn't make it as head coach but neither could Capers but he runs a good defense, same could be said with Phillips.I say get him in here and see what happens.Could take some pressure off of Kubiak allow him to couch better and not hold Bush's hand.You have to wonder if the defense was 50% better could we have managed the clock better and be in the playoffs.(Then we would not be wanting Kubiak out of here)
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But Gary Kubiak is not Mike McCarthy.
 
Rockets ought to gain some fans here soon. They at least play balls out and don't have near the level of talent for their sport as the Texans do.

Their owner and GM bust their ass and spend all the $$ they can to try to WIN every year.

If Kubiak is kept, Bob McNair is now the WORST owner in Houston so move over Drayton. This is an effing joke. Words cannot describe how I feel on this message board without getting myself kicked off of it.

Bob...thank you for bringing football back to Houston and I really mean that!

But Bob...eff you x10 for making said football in Houston and pretty much the entire city a EFFING JOKE!! (this is all said with the assumption that it sounds like Kubiak is in fact staying)

And before anyone starts some **** they can't finish.....I'll always be a fan of the Texans like I have been since day 1....but that doesn't mean I have to accept this bullshit.
 
Txn_in_ROK said:
I wouldn't call them very relevent though. Being Houston sports fan sucks because no one outside the city cares. You can fnd Cubs fans everywhere. Browns? Yep, find them too. KC Royals, no, but I can find Chiefs fans.

Houston? Never. Whether it's Rockets, Astros or Texans there are no fans to be found.

I don't know why this drives me nuts. Maybe it's the fact that I feel alone in my misery and it's really getting old.
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I see astro fans in other cities all the time.
 
Carr Bombed said:
I see astro fans in other cities all the time.
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I didn't make my comment to start a "Who's Seen More Houston Fans" thread. I'm just relaying what I have seen. If you've seen other Houston fans around, thumbs up to ya.

Are they fans or people with the hats on? I see plenty of people in Korea with Astros hts on. You know why? They like the logo.
 
Txn_in_ROK said:
I didn't make my comment to start a "Who's Seen More Houston Fans" thread. I'm just relaying what I have seen. If you've seen other Houston fans around, thumbs up to ya.

Are they fans or people with the hats on? I see plenty of people in Korea with Astros hts on. You know why? They like the logo.
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Lol....no the reason why here is because the 2005 World Series gear that had to be made in case the Astros won the championship got dumped their.

Like what they do when the Super Bowl comes and the print championship winning T-shirts and all that for both teams. The losing teams gear gets shipped to needy kids in Africa and stuff.

Saw something on ESPN one time where there are all these kids that have Seattle Seahawks T-shirts that have Super Bowl XL Champions on them....lol

I guess the Buffalo Bills clothed half of Nigeria back in the 90's!!
 
im good with this. wade can co-ordinate, the D should be able to hold up its own end with him and some new personnel and everyone will forget all this if they do
 
If Kubiak is kept, any enthusiam I had left will just go down the drain.

A new DC - while a great idea - will not correct all the clock management, 2 min offense, offensive play calling crap, turning his back on his "kids" during game changing plays, etc.

We are likely to end up imploding like the Cowgirls did earlier if the HC is not the one to hire the DC.
 
To maintain fan base and ensure re-upping of ticket sales, expect the same old tired Texans to be repackaged in a brand new miraculous bright and shiney heavily-perfumed facade, as McNair is the


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HTown2ATX said:
Lol....no the reason why here is because the 2005 World Series gear that had to be made in case the Astros won the championship got dumped their.

Like what they do when the Super Bowl comes and the print championship winning T-shirts and all that for both teams. The losing teams gear gets shipped to needy kids in Africa and stuff.

Saw something on ESPN one time where there are all these kids that have Seattle Seahawks T-shirts that have Super Bowl XL Champions on them....lol

I guess the Buffalo Bills clothed half of Nigeria back in the 90's!!
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I have always wanted to see someone make a movie where an immigrant from a third world country moves to Buffalo driven by his desire to be amongst the 4 time Super Bowl Champion Bills.

Hilarity ensures.
 
Not that I matter compared to most here who are hard view but if retained ill give up all hope of jumping with the Texans. Mcnair floors me. I'll be long gone. Maybe Chicago teams will be my secondary teams if we move there with Continental
 
TexansFight said:
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Bravo Bottom Line Bob, you have cracked the top 3 worst owners in the NFL with this crap. You are a joke and I hate you for what you are doing. I wish you'd die and your son Cal would take over. He can't be as big a moron as you. We are right there with the Bills as the biggest jokes in the NFL
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Are you fukin' serious? Dude, it's a game. Period. I'm a huge football fan, but I have a life outside of this team. From those comments, it sound like you need to get one as well.
 
The thing is, our offense HAS shown that it can run the 2 minute, and make a HUGE comeback (ravens, jets, and eagles games). But realize this

We shouldnt HAVE TO SCORE 28+ to barely win a game. IF your offense is putting up that amount and you arent winning..its clearly the D. We should put up 17 a game and win easily...But every game were forced to score at least 28 which is ridiculous. :kubepalm:
 
Well, I guess it's something I'm going to have to come to accept, though at this time, I have to say, I'm about as disappointed as I've ever been as a Texans fan. They announced on AM 1200 here in San Antonio this morning, that this deal is all but done. I can't change my allegiance to another team, it's not in me, so it looks as if I'll never live to see my team become a Super Bowl champion. Twenty-Nine years as an Oilers fan, and now I pick the Texans... FML!
 
TEXANJAK said:
I can stand behind this as long as Bob tells them its playoffs or fired next year. Wade couldn't make it as head coach but neither could Capers but he runs a good defense, same could be said with Phillips.I say get him in here and see what happens.Could take some pressure off of Kubiak allow him to couch better and not hold Bush's hand.You have to wonder if the defense was 50% better could we have managed the clock better and be in the playoffs.(Then we would not be wanting Kubiak out of here)
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Wasn't it playoffs or bust this year? What makes it any different for Kubiaks?

And do not expect the same clock/game management errors to cease. Replacing the DC does nothing for that. The DC has been replaced already (hand-picked by Kubiak) and yet Kubiak has continued to make the same or even more bone-headed decisions.

Are we really supposed to believe a new DC will teach Gary to use the running game against a Colts defense that could be gashed all night long by Foster?
 
Well, if this happens, it's not like we didn't suspect it.

There'll be a lot of these in our future: :kubepalm::wadepalm:

And I'll be cheering on the Texans next year, hoping for the best, and getting pissed when they deliver another poor season.

At least our defense should be better.
 
I wonder why no one has to date ever produced a Bob McNair Face Palm........is it because nothing that seems to bother fans so much seems to bother him?
 
HoustonFrog said:
Not that I matter compared to most here who are hard view but if retained ill give up all hope of jumping with the Texans. Mcnair floors me. I'll be long gone. Maybe Chicago teams will be my secondary teams if we move there with Continental
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Good riddance to bad rummage....
 
Reasons why I don't like it:

Houston would've been a more marketable team with a coach like Cowher or Gruden and the NFL would be on our side.

Gary Kubiak has led us to two losing seasons, two 8-8 seasons, and 1 winning season. Through that time many of our losses have come from poor play decisions and too much inconsistency (only one half of good football).

This isn't going to fix the times where we decided to keep passing the ball instead of running it when we have the league leading rusher just bslapping the defense already.

If Wade does become the DC, how long is it going to take for these players to learn the 3-4. Heck, the past two DC kept having to dumb down the defense for them in the past. Plus, do we even have that kind of personell?

If Kubiak does get fired next year, Wade will most likely be his succesor.

If all this is true and we do get Wade Phillips as a DC:

All I can think of is how well San Diego did with Wade as a DC, and even though they sucked this year Dallas had a pretty strong defense two seasons before. If Wade can bring a defense that scores at least 6 TDs for us, then we can win some games.

Our offense stays in tact and the players that have been successful can continue to be successful.

Perhaps having a DC that has been a head coach, looking over Kubiak's shoulder would light something under Kubiak's rear and get him thinking on his toes?
 
El Tejano said:
Reasons why I don't like it:

Houston would've been a more marketable team with a coach like Cowher or Gruden and the NFL would be on our side.

Gary Kubiak has led us to two losing seasons, two 8-8 seasons, and 1 winning season. Through that time many of our losses have come from poor play decisions and too much inconsistency (only one half of good football).

This isn't going to fix the times where we decided to keep passing the ball instead of running it when we have the league leading rusher just bslapping the defense already.

If Wade does become the DC, how long is it going to take for these players to learn the 3-4. Heck, the past two DC kept having to dumb down the defense for them in the past. Plus, do we even have that kind of personell?

If Kubiak does get fired next year, Wade will most likely be his succesor.

If all this is true and we do get Wade Phillips as a DC:

All I can think of is how well San Diego did with Wade as a DC, and even though they sucked this year Dallas had a pretty strong defense two seasons before. If Wade can bring a defense that scores at least 6 TDs for us, then we can win some games.

Our offense stays in tact and the players that have been successful can continue to be successful.

Perhaps having a DC that has been a head coach, looking over Kubiak's shoulder would light something under Kubiak's rear and get him thinking on his toes?
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That's been the problem all along. For once, it would be nice for him to use his brain.
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