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SheTexan said:
I will probalby get dinged for posting this, but, at this point in time, I reallly don't CARE!!

YOU SUCK AS A FAN!!!!!!!!
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Why would I neg rep you?

I said in my post I don't care what other fans think or do.

It's your perogative to root for meaningless wins much like its my perogative to root for a tough lesson to be learned.
 
Rey said:
Why would I neg rep you?

I said in my post I don't care what other fans think or do.

It's your perogative to root for meaningless wins much like its my perogative to root for a tough lesson to be learned.
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I was referring to the mods dinging me for saying what I did, not you. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and we certainly differ in ours. To root for your team to LOSE just disgusts me. There's no tough lesson to be learned from that!! JMO!!!
 
TheMatrix31 said:
No, it's not. It's reflective of your personality and mindset as a human being.
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^^^^^

This is BS

For the record I'm rooting for the Texans to win today. But wont be suprised if they lose.

Why is it that fans like you cant seem to admit that as far as W/L's go the Smithiak era has been a failure?

I sure hope I'm wrong and Uncle BoB doesn't agree with you.
 
I just hope we all care about life and our loved ones much more than a stupid football game because at end of the day a game is all it is. Made to entertain all of us. Thank you.
 
steelbtexan said:
^^^^^

This is BS

For the record I'm rooting for the Texans to win today. But wont be suprised if they lose.

Why is it that fans like you cant seem to admit that as far as W/L's go the Smithiak era has been a failure?

I sure hope I'm wrong and Uncle BoB doesn't agree with you.
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What's really scary is that there are fans that are still saying "Let's wait and see how things go these last two games before making a decision on the head coach." As if the last five and a half years hasn't shown enough evidence.

Some people are so dense that they need to be hit across the head with the obvious, so, I'm going to admit that I want us to lose today.
 
Thorn said:
draft picks are hit an miss anyways. There is a lot of banging on Rick Smith about his drafting, but drafting a college player is always a risk, most especially in the first couple of rounds where you have to pay a college boy who's never been in a pro locker room a ton of money.

I don't care who you are in the drafting room, out of the first 32 players taken in the first round, how many of those really end up earning their pay and their 1st round pick status?
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Unless your name is Bill Belichick.

There is also a reason that trading up into the top 10 in the draft is so hard to do: teams cherish these picks.
 
Yesterday said:
Unless your name is Bill Belichick.

There is also a reason that trading up into the top 10 in the draft is so hard to do: teams cherish these picks.
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Your point that some folks draft better than others is an accurate one. But that doesn't always mean those top ten picks are gonna be worth it all the time. Especially for the Texans it would seem.
 
SheTexan said:
I was referring to the mods dinging me for saying what I did, not you. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and we certainly differ in ours. To root for your team to LOSE just disgusts me. There's no tough lesson to be learned from that!! JMO!!!
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Yes there are lessons to be learned.

They need to learn that they are not as close as they think they are. Going with all young corners and no proven talent at safety is proof of them thinking they can rely on last season's "success". They need to actually make moves to improve and not simply rely on young players getting better.

Our coaching isn't good enough for that.
 
bo orlando said:
He did run for a long TD, but it was a busted play on 3rd and 25 where the Raiders inexplicably had nobody in the middle of the field. Still, certainly that's a skill Rusty Smith doesn't have. But as far as pass defense goes, I'd actually give Rusty the edge as a passer. Tebow threw nothing but floaters and screens all day, and still has that awful looping throwing motion. Even the Texans D will dominate this game, bet on it.
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Lol. . I tried to tell you.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
If you root for your team to lose, you disgust me as a sports fan and as a human being.
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Why would any passionate fan care if this disgusts you or bothers you? Since you've been in here all I've seen you demonstrate is homerish excuses for this coaching staff and this regime and poor logic and reasoning for doing so and just a few weeks ago you were having meltdowns in here at people who even questioned this coaching staff. Yeah, you're someone that an informed fan should worry about. People who spend their money and time and emotions into an organization can do whatever the hell they want, and what you think about that means nothing just because you have this unconditional man crush for Bob Mcnair just because he owns a team that operates under the "Houston" name. I've rooted for the Texans to lose out the rest of the games last season and I did this season as well, and by the results it's been proven that I was spot on for doing so. I want change. I want a new general that I can believe in and don't have to question every game, and if you're such a passionate fan like you claim you "should" want the same thing.

It's unfortunate to me as a fan that so many people that root for this team care more about winning one or two meaningless games than they do the overall success of an organization as a whole. Rooting for the Texans at this point in the season is not rooting for the success of this franchise because there is nothing to gain. It's rooting for Kubiak to keep his job, because that's all that's on the line with these last few games and I can't believe anyone would root for Gary Kubiak at this point. That tells me that they like him more than they like this team.
 
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Texecutioner said:
Why would any passionate fan care if this disgusts you or bothers you? Since you've been in here all I've seen you demonstrate is homerish excuses for this coaching staff and this regime and poor logic and reasoning for doing so. People who spend their money and time and emotions into an organization can do whatever the hell they want, and what you think about that means nothing just because you have this unconditional man crush for Bob Mcnair just because he owns a team that operates under the "Houston" name. I've rooted for the Texans to lose out the rest of the games last season and I did this season as well, and by the results it's been proven that I was spot on for doing so. I want change. I want a new general that I can believe in and don't have to question every game, and if you're such a passionate fan like you claim you "should" want the same thing.

It's unfortunate to me as a fan that so many people that root for this team care more about winning one or two meaningless games than they do the overall success of an organization as a whole. Rooting for the Texans at this point in the season is not rooting for the success of this franchise because there is nothing to gain. It's rooting for Kubiak to keep his job, because that's all that's on the line with these last few games and I can't believe anyone would root for Gary Kubiak at this point. That tells me that they like him more than they like this team.
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Spot On

Agree with you about people questioning my fanhood. Also I understand what you're saying about W/L's.

With that said I cant bring myself to root for the Texans to lose. even though I agree it would be best for the long term health of the franchise.

I would never look down on a fan that wants the Texans to lose meaningless games.
 
SheTexan said:
There's no tough lesson to be learned from that!! JMO!!!
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I think the lesson that needs to be learned here is mainly by you and a few others who get so down and out and offensive about the fact that other fans see a pile of **** and they don't want it shoved down their throats anymore, so they ask for just a little more of it for just a little while longer so hopefully they won't see several more seasons of it.

You are the one that needs to learn the hard lessons here in my opinion. Did you not watch the Capers era? How on earth did you not learn anything from that? You hang onto a coach to long and your team falls apart. Your quality players leave, and other high end free agents don't want to come here. Not that it matters any way, since this is one of the only teams in the league that hates the idea of "free agency". The capers era and the Carr extension was an easy example to learn from and say "Never Again" will I trust some HC like that unconditionally if he hasn't proven a lot early on to give him the benefit of the doubt. Even the fact that Kubes got extended last season and came back to suck again should have been another example, yet you still can't understand why other people would want to see change and root for whatever needs to happen to execute change.

This whole "I'll root my team on no matter how bad they are" mentality is exactly why Bob Mcnair operates the way he does. He knows he can do anything he wants to in this market and his babies will still sit on his lap like he's Santa Clause. If you have no expectations or standards then just say so, but stop criticizing others who do already. I highly doubt you'd go back to a restaurant that gave you food poisoning and got you sick. That would be going back to a place that gave you a bad product. The Texans are a business and their performance on the field is a bad product that makes it's fans sick. You don't continue to give unconditional support for a poisoned product.
 
Uncle BoB has away of extending QB's and HC's that stink just before their contracts expire. Uncle BoB's just a peach.
 
steelbtexan said:
Spot On

Agree with you about people questioning my fanhood. Also I understand what you're saying about W/L's.

With that said I cant bring myself to root for the Texans to lose. even though I agree it would be best for the long term health of the franchise.

I would never look down on a fan that wants the Texans to lose meaningless games.
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I get what you're saying and anyone who posts here consistently is a about as hard core of a fan as it gets. That's why I don't get this whole holier than thou attitude from the homers in here who think you're supposed to bow at the feet of Mcnair, these players, or this HC just because. They're just people with jobs that happen to work in Houston "for now." I don't know about you but I was here way before the Texans ever got here. I'm a Houstonian and have rooted for football teams here before they were here and if they leave at some point I'll root for whatever team comes next. I want to know that I'm rooting for a team that can win and go for it all though. I want to feel like I'm putting my time and efforts into an organization that cares about winning and is committed to it. When Mcnair fires Kubiak if that ever happens I'll be stoked and ready to root my ass off. Until then, I want them to lose so we can get a new guy in here. Someone who isn't a proven loser and someone that has a chance. With Kubiak here it's a waste of time.
 
Texecutioner said:
The Texans are a business and their performance on the field is a bad product that makes it's fans sick. You don't continue to give unconditional support for a poisoned product.
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The problem with this argument is that fans do exactly that, because they are fanatic. Logic dictates that your position is correct: losing out leads to higher draft picks, and therefore benefits the franchise. However, fanaticism defies logic; it makes people perform illogical acts like flying airplanes into buildings, streaking, spending a fortune on PSLs and merchandising, and believing that Kubiak may someday take the Texans to the playoffs.
 
Texecutioner said:
I think the lesson that needs to be learned here is mainly by you and a few others who get so down and out and offensive about the fact that other fans see a pile of **** and they don't want it shoved down their throats anymore, so they ask for just a little more of it for just a little while longer so hopefully they won't see several more seasons of it.

You are the one that needs to learn the hard lessons here in my opinion. Did you not watch the Capers era? How on earth did you not learn anything from that? You hang onto a coach to long and your team falls apart. Your quality players leave, and other high end free agents don't want to come here. Not that it matters any way, since this is one of the only teams in the league that hates the idea of "free agency". The capers era and the Carr extension was an easy example to learn from and say "Never Again" will I trust some HC like that unconditionally if he hasn't proven a lot early on to give him the benefit of the doubt. Even the fact that Kubes got extended last season and came back to suck again should have been another example, yet you still can't understand why other people would want to see change and root for whatever needs to happen to execute change.

This whole "I'll root my team on no matter how bad they are" mentality is exactly why Bob Mcnair operates the way he does. He knows he can do anything he wants to in this market and his babies will still sit on his lap like he's Santa Clause. If you have no expectations or standards then just say so, but stop criticizing others who do already. I highly doubt you'd go back to a restaurant that gave you food poisoning and got you sick. That would be going back to a place that gave you a bad product. The Texans are a business and their performance on the field is a bad product that makes it's fans sick. You don't continue to give unconditional support for a poisoned product.
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Go Texans!! Start Andre and destroy the Jaguars!!

:fans:
 
Texecutioner said:
I get what you're saying and anyone who posts here consistently is a about as hard core of a fan as it gets. That's why I don't get this whole holier than thou attitude from the homers in here who think you're supposed to bow at the feet of Mcnair, these players, or this HC just because. They're just people with jobs that happen to work in Houston "for now." I don't know about you but I was here way before the Texans ever got here. I'm a Houstonian and have rooted for football teams here before they were here and if they leave at some point I'll root for whatever team comes next. I want to know that I'm rooting for a team that can win and go for it all though. I want to feel like I'm putting my time and efforts into an organization that cares about winning and is committed to it. When Mcnair fires Kubiak if that ever happens I'll be stoked and ready to root my ass off. Until then, I want them to lose so we can get a new guy in here. Someone who isn't a proven loser and someone that has a chance. With Kubiak here it's a waste of time.
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I understand what you are saying, but I root for the Houston Texans. I'm not rooting for Kubiak or Smith or McNair.

I am ready for some major changes in this franchise, but if I get a chance to go to the Jags game I will be cheering and yelling my head off. Just the way I am.
 
markn said:
The problem with this argument is that fans do exactly that, because they are fanatic. Logic dictates that your position is correct: losing out leads to higher draft picks, and therefore benefits the franchise. However, fanaticism defies logic; it makes people perform illogical acts like flying airplanes into buildings, streaking, spending a fortune on PSLs and merchandising, and believing that Kubiak may someday take the Texans to the playoffs.
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I look at it as having kids. You love them to death. . . With every bone in your body. .

But if they are clearly going down the wrong path you may call the police on them, or send them to bootcamp or hope that they get caught in a minor trangression so that they can get on the right track and realize they are headed for trouble.

I understand your love for them doesn't allow you to want to see them behind bars, but hoping they don( get caught and will one day just figure it out is a gamble. Sometimes falling flat on your face can be a learning experince.

You don't want them to be locked up with the key thrown away, you just want them to learn a tough lesson.

People don( want their team to suck forever. .that is why they want the organization to be "scared Straight".

Losing these games helps to further bring awareness to how bad the situation really is. Winning meaningless games is like your child continuing to get away with petty shoplifting. It brings a false sense of security and does nothing to inspire a change.

No matter what happens I'll be a fan. But I won't always wish them success when they are doing wrong. If that makes me a bad fan in someone's eyes, oh well. . Bite me.

If comparing the team to your hypothtical kids isn't fanaticism I don't know what is.
 
JB said:
I understand what you are saying, but I root for the Houston Texans. I'm not rooting for Kubiak or Smith or McNair.

I am ready for some major changes in this franchise, but if I get a chance to go to the Jags game I will be cheering and yelling my head off. Just the way I am.
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Jb, you speak so casually about your displeasure for the team but your use such imagery when talking about fans you don't agree with.

How about spewing some of that venom towards the actual cause of all this mess?

Ok you don't want them to lose. Great.

But why call out other fans and be so nonchalant towards the team?
 
Rey said:
Jb, you speak so casually about your displeasure for the team but your use such imagery when talking about fans you don't agree with.

How about spewing some of that venom towards the actual cause of all this mess?

Ok you don't want them to lose. Great.

But why call out other fans and be so nonchalant towards the team?
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What?
 
Thorn said:
draft picks are hit an miss anyways. There is a lot of banging on Rick Smith about his drafting, but drafting a college player is always a risk, most especially in the first couple of rounds where you have to pay a college boy who's never been in a pro locker room a ton of money.

I don't care who you are in the drafting room, out of the first 32 players taken in the first round, how many of those really end up earning their pay and their 1st round pick status?
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I dont have an verifiable answer to that question but I bet the further you go down the more likely you are to miss. For instance I bet you are more likely to hit on a good player in the 5 to 10 range of the first round than in the 15 to 20 spots.
 
Rey said:
Jb, you speak so casually about your displeasure for the team but your use such imagery when talking about fans you don't agree with.

How about spewing some of that venom towards the actual cause of all this mess?

Ok you don't want them to lose. Great.

But why call out other fans and be so nonchalant towards the team?
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Only one doing any calling out is you folk. Back to my scheduled programming of rooting for the Texans.

Hey McNair? Can you send out the invoices a little earlier this year? I'd like it to coincide with my tax refund better.

Go Texans.

:fans: :texan: :logo:
 
Today was the last draw for me as long as I know Gary and Frank are on the line next week for sure then I'll hope for a loss.
 
Texecutioner said:
I think the lesson that needs to be learned here is mainly by you and a few others who get so down and out and offensive about the fact that other fans see a pile of **** and they don't want it shoved down their throats anymore, so they ask for just a little more of it for just a little while longer so hopefully they won't see several more seasons of it.

You are the one that needs to learn the hard lessons here in my opinion. Did you not watch the Capers era? How on earth did you not learn anything from that? You hang onto a coach to long and your team falls apart. Your quality players leave, and other high end free agents don't want to come here. Not that it matters any way, since this is one of the only teams in the league that hates the idea of "free agency". The capers era and the Carr extension was an easy example to learn from and say "Never Again" will I trust some HC like that unconditionally if he hasn't proven a lot early on to give him the benefit of the doubt. Even the fact that Kubes got extended last season and came back to suck again should have been another example, yet you still can't understand why other people would want to see change and root for whatever needs to happen to execute change.

This whole "I'll root my team on no matter how bad they are" mentality is exactly why Bob Mcnair operates the way he does. He knows he can do anything he wants to in this market and his babies will still sit on his lap like he's Santa Clause. If you have no expectations or standards then just say so, but stop criticizing others who do already. I highly doubt you'd go back to a restaurant that gave you food poisoning and got you sick. That would be going back to a place that gave you a bad product. The Texans are a business and their performance on the field is a bad product that makes it's fans sick. You don't continue to give unconditional support for a poisoned product.
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Ok, how to respond. First of all, NO WHERE in any of my post will you find where I've stated I'm a fan of Gary Kubiak. Supporting the players on the field does not mean I support GK, FB, or RS!! I support my FOOTBALL TEAM who is out there playing a friggin GAME!! I refuse to allow myself to get caught up in the way the FO thinks or works. I have NO control over that, NONE, and I will not pretend that I do. Refusing to buy my season tickets, picketing the Jags game, acting like a fool over a GAME that I CHOOSE to participate in, just makes me look like a fool for loving the game in the first place, and for such a long time.

The Houston Texans are my favorite football team, and I will continue to support them as long as I call myself a fan of the game of football! Some of you guys are so arrogant you think you can control what a multibillionaire will do! Well, my fellow Texan fan, the joke will be on YOU!! If Bob McNair fires GK it will be because HE wants to, not because of what a few fans on a Texan message board wants! IF he decides to keep GK it will be HIS choice, and he really will NOT care if you ever enter the gates of Reliant again. You are correct, the NFL is a business and it's our choice, as fans, as to whether we want to keep shelling out money, time, and emotions on a bad product. If I quit it will because of the changes the NFL has made in a game I have loved for almost 60 yrs, not because my football team sucks!!

You seem to think I am indifferent to the way this year has turned out. WELLLLL, you are badly mistaken! I've been about as pissed off as the rest of you, but, I'm not ready to give up on my favorite team, or my fav game. This year is HISTORY, just like 36 yrs of Oiler fandom, and 10 yrs as a Houston Texan fan. 46 yrs of my life I've spent pulling for a LOSING team!!! Why should I stop now??!!

NOW the kicker!! I assure you, as a longtime fan of this game, my expectations and standards should NEVER be questioned!! I'm just wise enough to know not to stress over something that is out of my control.
 
ToxicButt said:
This is going to tick some people off but, as per the title, I'm hoping for a lopsided win by the Broncos. Here is why:

- this season is a huge failure, whether we win or lose the last two games.

- Bob McNair needs to be embarrassed into firing Kubiak. Nothing short of two more decisive losses to cap off a 5-11 season will do it. We're talking about startin 4-2, and then closing with a 1-9 record. Hell, I'm not 100% sure that two more horrific losses will do the trick, but it's important that this happen. Critical.

- Losing the last two games will enhance our draft pick status, which is damn important since we need all the help we can get.

- I want AJ to sit. He is too damn valuable and has given as much or more than anyone else on the team. I also want him to sit to help us lose this game.

- For those of you that want us to win the game, you better be huge kubiak supporters.

- For those of you that are thinking it's worth winning two meaningless games, just consider that dropping a few draft spots could cost us a prized prospect.

- Just four years ago, Jeff Van Gundy insisted that the Rockets win a meaningless season finale, which cost the Rockets the ability to draft Brandon Roy. Granted, his knees are now shot, but that's beside the point.

- I'm not saying that a team should openly tank.

- I'm saying that as a fan, you should want to lose every game after you're eliminated from the playoffs, unless you're wanting to protect the coaching staff.
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Call me old fashioned and even despite the outcome today . I find rooting for your team to lose a little dbagerry. I never root for my team to lose.

Go Texans.
 
JB said:
I understand what you are saying, but I root for the Houston Texans. I'm not rooting for Kubiak or Smith or McNair.

I am ready for some major changes in this franchise, but if I get a chance to go to the Jags game I will be cheering and yelling my head off. Just the way I am.
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And more power to you JB. Every franchise needs many fans of your kind. Your passion for this team and franchise is wonderful. Every franchise needs fans of all kinds though. If we "all" sat back and praised the owner, the coaching staff, and the players now matter how poor they got on or off the field, then there would never be a reason to get better or to have any real commitment. My perspective as a fan right now though is that this team has no chance of winning a SB under what we have, so I want whatever happening that needs to happen in order so they are out of here and some other form of management or staff is here that can get us there. You still have some type of hope in a next year sort of way in these guys to pull it around. I don't have any, and because of that I can't even fathom wanting meaningless wins that will keep them here to waste more seasons when losses could possibly bring a new HC that I feel could get us to a SB.

I want all the success in the world for this team and want to see a dynasty era at some point. But losing right now to get a HC quicker puts us at that place faster potentially by losing now to get a new HC, then it does to win now and replace our coach way later on. That's my perspective any way.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
If you root for your team to lose, you disgust me as a sports fan and as a human being.
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Texecutioner said:
Why would any passionate fan care if this disgusts you or bothers you? Since you've been in here all I've seen you demonstrate is homerish excuses for this coaching staff and this regime and poor logic and reasoning for doing so and just a few weeks ago you were having meltdowns in here at people who even questioned this coaching staff. Yeah, you're someone that an informed fan should worry about. People who spend their money and time and emotions into an organization can do whatever the hell they want, and what you think about that means nothing just because you have this unconditional man crush for Bob Mcnair just because he owns a team that operates under the "Houston" name. I've rooted for the Texans to lose out the rest of the games last season and I did this season as well, and by the results it's been proven that I was spot on for doing so. I want change. I want a new general that I can believe in and don't have to question every game, and if you're such a passionate fan like you claim you "should" want the same thing.

It's unfortunate to me as a fan that so many people that root for this team care more about winning one or two meaningless games than they do the overall success of an organization as a whole. Rooting for the Texans at this point in the season is not rooting for the success of this franchise because there is nothing to gain. It's rooting for Kubiak to keep his job, because that's all that's on the line with these last few games and I can't believe anyone would root for Gary Kubiak at this point. That tells me that they like him more than they like this team.
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So I remember there were those rooting for the Texans to lose during the 2-14 season so we could get #1 pick How did that work out ? not too well.

You should never root against your team...never.

Before you guys go and question my fanhood take a guess who was sitting by himself in a BWW in SA TEXAS SURROUNDED BY Colts and broncos fans. I was there to root for my team. I love this team and will root for them to win no matter what the cost.I wasnt there to watch the tackling Kubiaks

Next week I am going to root for the Texans to beat the Jags because those lucky SOBS need to get some freaking payback and be knocked out of the playoffs by . Revenge is a beeeeyotch and i want it served to them like nobody's business.

and im not questioning anyonelses fanhood. I disagree with any Texan fan rooting for them to lose.
 
Texecutioner said:
And more power to you JB. Every franchise needs many fans of your kind. Your passion for this team and franchise is wonderful. Every franchise needs fans of all kinds though. If we "all" sat back and praised the owner, the coaching staff, and the players now matter how poor they got on or off the field, then there would never be a reason to get better or to have any real commitment. My perspective as a fan right now though is that this team has no chance of winning a SB under what we have, so I want whatever happening that needs to happen in order so they are out of here and some other form of management or staff is here that can get us there. You still have some type of hope in a next year sort of way in these guys to pull it around. I don't have any, and because of that I can't even fathom wanting meaningless wins that will keep them here to waste more seasons when losses could possibly bring a new HC that I feel could get us to a SB.

I want all the success in the world for this team and want to see a dynasty era at some point. But losing right now to get a HC quicker puts us at that place faster potentially by losing now to get a new HC, then it does to win now and replace our coach way later on. That's my perspective any way.
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We want the same things Tex. We want our team to win a SB. I just can't root for my team to lose. Ever. And I don't think that the fans will have an input into the decision. Like I said before, I thing big changes are needed. But I don't think that me wishing they would win or lose will have a bearing on McNair's decision, and I can't wish for them to lose.
 
You know, I'm thinking a good plan here is to turn on each other and insult each other. That should work quite well and get the Texans to a Super Bowl. :)

With that in mind, JB sucks.
 
Thorn said:
You know, I'm thinking a good plan here is to turn on each other and insult each other. That should work quite well and get the Texans to a Super Bowl. :)

With that in mind, JB sucks.
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:tiphat: Thank ya! Thank ya very much!
 
I'm somewhat relieved that the Texans lost. There will be a huge logjam of teams with 5-6 wins this season, and we need to be at the top of that pile for a good draft position. We may have a top 10 pick at this rate! Nick Fairley or Steven Paeae (sp?) would really help this team next year.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
No, it's not. It's reflective of your personality and mindset as a human being.
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Thanks for the neg rep. LOL

I refuse to neg rep anybody. But the mindset of you as a human being was way out of line. IMHO Glad to know you're judge and jury of the human mind.

I truly am very glad that somebody like you (Those that put their heads in the sand) and judge others character because they disagree with you.

You and I are on different levels of toleration and I'm very glad to be on a different level than you.

I've got to give it to people like Dex,JB, TB etc.... they may disagree with my point of view. But atleast we are able to discuss things without each others feelings getting hurt.

You might consider lightening up. Life is short.
 
I would root for our team to lose but TBO they dont need our help to lose they seemed to have masterd the art of losing on there own :kubepalm:

5-11 what is that at least a top 10 pick right ????:kubepalm:
 
I'd hate this fan base if we were 15-1 and #1 in everything.

I can't stand each and every last one of you regardless.

EDIT: it was obvious :sarcasm:
 
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steelbtexan said:
Thanks for the neg rep. LOL

I refuse to neg rep anybody. But the mindset of you as a human being was way out of line. IMHO Glad to know you're judge and jury of the human mind.

I truly am very glad that somebody like you (Those that put their heads in the sand) and judge others character because they disagree with you.

You and I are on different levels of toleration and I'm very glad to be on a different level than you.

I've got to give it to people like Dex,JB, TB etc.... they may disagree with my point of view. But atleast we are able to discuss things without each others feelings getting hurt.

You might consider lightening up. Life is short.
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No one's judge and jury of anything. It's my opinion, man. If someone roots for their team to lose under any circumstance, then I think it reflects poorly. Simple as that. No one has to agree with it, if they don't want to.

I don't really care to lighten up when my opinions continue to be misconstrued. That's why I downdinged your post. Honestly, if there should be no downdings, then the system shouldn't exist. Can't believe we're doing this run-around again. I mean, what do I have to do, make a thread about how much I hate Kubiak? Do I have to bring up examples and screenshots from other boards "proving" that I've wished for Kubiak's departure since last year? Just because I'm not willing to slam him at EVERY turn? I've admitted plenty of times that "as far as W/Ls go, the Smithiak era has been a failure."

I'm normally a very easy-going guy, but the reason I've been posting with an edge here is because if you're not touting the company line in EVERY SINGLE POST YOU MAKE, you're some sort of outcast it seems. I guess that's how it is in life anyway, just gotta get used to it.

If it comes across as me being too tightly wound up, then whatever. Everyone's on edge. This team has severely underperformed. BUT it's no way to foster a winning attitude amongst the players by losing. I guarantee "Uncle BoB" will get rid of Kubiak, or at least strongly shake up the coaching staff. I'm PRETTY SURE he sees what we're seeing. We're message board geeks. We're extreme fans. On every board I visit that's specific to a team I root for, people pound the **** out of a specific issue or person. For this board, it's Kubiak. For the Suns, its Turkoglu/lack of PF/ownership. For the Braves, it was Bobby Cox. For the Sabres, it's coach/GM.

I don't know. Maybe I'm just not cut out for team-specific message boards. I understand it seems silly to think less of someone because they want their team to lose, but I think it does reflect poorly. I don't care to be told I'm trolling because I'm posting what I believe, like another dude said. Maybe I should just cut down on my posting, or something. I don't know.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
No one's judge and jury of anything. It's my opinion, man. If someone roots for their team to lose under any circumstance, then I think it reflects poorly. Simple as that. No one has to agree with it, if they don't want to.

I don't really care to lighten up when my opinions continue to be misconstrued. That's why I downdinged your post. Honestly, if there should be no downdings, then the system shouldn't exist. Can't believe we're doing this run-around again. I mean, what do I have to do, make a thread about how much I hate Kubiak? Do I have to bring up examples and screenshots from other boards "proving" that I've wished for Kubiak's departure since last year? Just because I'm not willing to slam him at EVERY turn? I've admitted plenty of times that "as far as W/Ls go, the Smithiak era has been a failure."

I'm normally a very easy-going guy, but the reason I've been posting with an edge here is because if you're not touting the company line in EVERY SINGLE POST YOU MAKE, you're some sort of outcast it seems. I guess that's how it is in life anyway, just gotta get used to it.

If it comes across as me being too tightly wound up, then whatever. Everyone's on edge. This team has severely underperformed. BUT it's no way to foster a winning attitude amongst the players by losing. I guarantee "Uncle BoB" will get rid of Kubiak, or at least strongly shake up the coaching staff. I'm PRETTY SURE he sees what we're seeing. We're message board geeks. We're extreme fans. On every board I visit that's specific to a team I root for, people pound the **** out of a specific issue or person. For this board, it's Kubiak. For the Suns, its Turkoglu/lack of PF/ownership. For the Braves, it was Bobby Cox. For the Sabres, it's coach/GM.

I don't know. Maybe I'm just not cut out for team-specific message boards. I understand it seems silly to think less of someone because they want their team to lose, but I think it does reflect poorly. I don't care to be told I'm trolling because I'm posting what I believe, like another dude said. Maybe I should just cut down on my posting, or something. I don't know.
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You soft.
 
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