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If you root for your team to lose, you disgust me as a sports fan and as a human being.
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I will probalby get dinged for posting this, but, at this point in time, I reallly don't CARE!!
YOU SUCK AS A FAN!!!!!!!!
If you root for your team to lose, you disgust me as a sports fan and as a human being.
Really? Geez, lighten up people. Its just sports.
No, it's not. It's reflective of your personality and mindset as a human being.
Why would I neg rep you?
I said in my post I don't care what other fans think or do.
It's your perogative to root for meaningless wins much like its my perogative to root for a tough lesson to be learned.
No, it's not. It's reflective of your personality and mindset as a human being.
I really hope we're just being trolled here. No way you actually believe this.
Yeah, I do. Your actions and words are reflective of your personality and mindset. If they're not, then you have something to fix. Or you're lucky. Or you're fake.
No, it's not. It's reflective of your personality and mindset as a human being.
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This is BS
For the record I'm rooting for the Texans to win today. But wont be suprised if they lose.
Why is it that fans like you cant seem to admit that as far as W/L's go the Smithiak era has been a failure?
I sure hope I'm wrong and Uncle BoB doesn't agree with you.
No, it's not. It's reflective of your personality and mindset as a human being.
draft picks are hit an miss anyways. There is a lot of banging on Rick Smith about his drafting, but drafting a college player is always a risk, most especially in the first couple of rounds where you have to pay a college boy who's never been in a pro locker room a ton of money.
I don't care who you are in the drafting room, out of the first 32 players taken in the first round, how many of those really end up earning their pay and their 1st round pick status?
Unless your name is Bill Belichick.
There is also a reason that trading up into the top 10 in the draft is so hard to do: teams cherish these picks.
I was referring to the mods dinging me for saying what I did, not you. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and we certainly differ in ours. To root for your team to LOSE just disgusts me. There's no tough lesson to be learned from that!! JMO!!!
He did run for a long TD, but it was a busted play on 3rd and 25 where the Raiders inexplicably had nobody in the middle of the field. Still, certainly that's a skill Rusty Smith doesn't have. But as far as pass defense goes, I'd actually give Rusty the edge as a passer. Tebow threw nothing but floaters and screens all day, and still has that awful looping throwing motion. Even the Texans D will dominate this game, bet on it.
If you root for your team to lose, you disgust me as a sports fan and as a human being.
Why would any passionate fan care if this disgusts you or bothers you? Since you've been in here all I've seen you demonstrate is homerish excuses for this coaching staff and this regime and poor logic and reasoning for doing so. People who spend their money and time and emotions into an organization can do whatever the hell they want, and what you think about that means nothing just because you have this unconditional man crush for Bob Mcnair just because he owns a team that operates under the "Houston" name. I've rooted for the Texans to lose out the rest of the games last season and I did this season as well, and by the results it's been proven that I was spot on for doing so. I want change. I want a new general that I can believe in and don't have to question every game, and if you're such a passionate fan like you claim you "should" want the same thing.
It's unfortunate to me as a fan that so many people that root for this team care more about winning one or two meaningless games than they do the overall success of an organization as a whole. Rooting for the Texans at this point in the season is not rooting for the success of this franchise because there is nothing to gain. It's rooting for Kubiak to keep his job, because that's all that's on the line with these last few games and I can't believe anyone would root for Gary Kubiak at this point. That tells me that they like him more than they like this team.
There's no tough lesson to be learned from that!! JMO!!!
Yeah, I do. Your actions and words are reflective of your personality and mindset. If they're not, then you have something to fix. Or you're lucky. Or you're fake.
Spot On
Agree with you about people questioning my fanhood. Also I understand what you're saying about W/L's.
With that said I cant bring myself to root for the Texans to lose. even though I agree it would be best for the long term health of the franchise.
I would never look down on a fan that wants the Texans to lose meaningless games.
The Texans are a business and their performance on the field is a bad product that makes it's fans sick. You don't continue to give unconditional support for a poisoned product.
I think the lesson that needs to be learned here is mainly by you and a few others who get so down and out and offensive about the fact that other fans see a pile of **** and they don't want it shoved down their throats anymore, so they ask for just a little more of it for just a little while longer so hopefully they won't see several more seasons of it.
You are the one that needs to learn the hard lessons here in my opinion. Did you not watch the Capers era? How on earth did you not learn anything from that? You hang onto a coach to long and your team falls apart. Your quality players leave, and other high end free agents don't want to come here. Not that it matters any way, since this is one of the only teams in the league that hates the idea of "free agency". The capers era and the Carr extension was an easy example to learn from and say "Never Again" will I trust some HC like that unconditionally if he hasn't proven a lot early on to give him the benefit of the doubt. Even the fact that Kubes got extended last season and came back to suck again should have been another example, yet you still can't understand why other people would want to see change and root for whatever needs to happen to execute change.
This whole "I'll root my team on no matter how bad they are" mentality is exactly why Bob Mcnair operates the way he does. He knows he can do anything he wants to in this market and his babies will still sit on his lap like he's Santa Clause. If you have no expectations or standards then just say so, but stop criticizing others who do already. I highly doubt you'd go back to a restaurant that gave you food poisoning and got you sick. That would be going back to a place that gave you a bad product. The Texans are a business and their performance on the field is a bad product that makes it's fans sick. You don't continue to give unconditional support for a poisoned product.
I get what you're saying and anyone who posts here consistently is a about as hard core of a fan as it gets. That's why I don't get this whole holier than thou attitude from the homers in here who think you're supposed to bow at the feet of Mcnair, these players, or this HC just because. They're just people with jobs that happen to work in Houston "for now." I don't know about you but I was here way before the Texans ever got here. I'm a Houstonian and have rooted for football teams here before they were here and if they leave at some point I'll root for whatever team comes next. I want to know that I'm rooting for a team that can win and go for it all though. I want to feel like I'm putting my time and efforts into an organization that cares about winning and is committed to it. When Mcnair fires Kubiak if that ever happens I'll be stoked and ready to root my ass off. Until then, I want them to lose so we can get a new guy in here. Someone who isn't a proven loser and someone that has a chance. With Kubiak here it's a waste of time.
The problem with this argument is that fans do exactly that, because they are fanatic. Logic dictates that your position is correct: losing out leads to higher draft picks, and therefore benefits the franchise. However, fanaticism defies logic; it makes people perform illogical acts like flying airplanes into buildings, streaking, spending a fortune on PSLs and merchandising, and believing that Kubiak may someday take the Texans to the playoffs.
I understand what you are saying, but I root for the Houston Texans. I'm not rooting for Kubiak or Smith or McNair.
I am ready for some major changes in this franchise, but if I get a chance to go to the Jags game I will be cheering and yelling my head off. Just the way I am.
Jb, you speak so casually about your displeasure for the team but your use such imagery when talking about fans you don't agree with.
How about spewing some of that venom towards the actual cause of all this mess?
Ok you don't want them to lose. Great.
But why call out other fans and be so nonchalant towards the team?
draft picks are hit an miss anyways. There is a lot of banging on Rick Smith about his drafting, but drafting a college player is always a risk, most especially in the first couple of rounds where you have to pay a college boy who's never been in a pro locker room a ton of money.
I don't care who you are in the drafting room, out of the first 32 players taken in the first round, how many of those really end up earning their pay and their 1st round pick status?
Jb, you speak so casually about your displeasure for the team but your use such imagery when talking about fans you don't agree with.
How about spewing some of that venom towards the actual cause of all this mess?
Ok you don't want them to lose. Great.
But why call out other fans and be so nonchalant towards the team?
I think the lesson that needs to be learned here is mainly by you and a few others who get so down and out and offensive about the fact that other fans see a pile of **** and they don't want it shoved down their throats anymore, so they ask for just a little more of it for just a little while longer so hopefully they won't see several more seasons of it.
You are the one that needs to learn the hard lessons here in my opinion. Did you not watch the Capers era? How on earth did you not learn anything from that? You hang onto a coach to long and your team falls apart. Your quality players leave, and other high end free agents don't want to come here. Not that it matters any way, since this is one of the only teams in the league that hates the idea of "free agency". The capers era and the Carr extension was an easy example to learn from and say "Never Again" will I trust some HC like that unconditionally if he hasn't proven a lot early on to give him the benefit of the doubt. Even the fact that Kubes got extended last season and came back to suck again should have been another example, yet you still can't understand why other people would want to see change and root for whatever needs to happen to execute change.
This whole "I'll root my team on no matter how bad they are" mentality is exactly why Bob Mcnair operates the way he does. He knows he can do anything he wants to in this market and his babies will still sit on his lap like he's Santa Clause. If you have no expectations or standards then just say so, but stop criticizing others who do already. I highly doubt you'd go back to a restaurant that gave you food poisoning and got you sick. That would be going back to a place that gave you a bad product. The Texans are a business and their performance on the field is a bad product that makes it's fans sick. You don't continue to give unconditional support for a poisoned product.
This is going to tick some people off but, as per the title, I'm hoping for a lopsided win by the Broncos. Here is why:
- this season is a huge failure, whether we win or lose the last two games.
- Bob McNair needs to be embarrassed into firing Kubiak. Nothing short of two more decisive losses to cap off a 5-11 season will do it. We're talking about startin 4-2, and then closing with a 1-9 record. Hell, I'm not 100% sure that two more horrific losses will do the trick, but it's important that this happen. Critical.
- Losing the last two games will enhance our draft pick status, which is damn important since we need all the help we can get.
- I want AJ to sit. He is too damn valuable and has given as much or more than anyone else on the team. I also want him to sit to help us lose this game.
- For those of you that want us to win the game, you better be huge kubiak supporters.
- For those of you that are thinking it's worth winning two meaningless games, just consider that dropping a few draft spots could cost us a prized prospect.
- Just four years ago, Jeff Van Gundy insisted that the Rockets win a meaningless season finale, which cost the Rockets the ability to draft Brandon Roy. Granted, his knees are now shot, but that's beside the point.
- I'm not saying that a team should openly tank.
- I'm saying that as a fan, you should want to lose every game after you're eliminated from the playoffs, unless you're wanting to protect the coaching staff.
I understand what you are saying, but I root for the Houston Texans. I'm not rooting for Kubiak or Smith or McNair.
I am ready for some major changes in this franchise, but if I get a chance to go to the Jags game I will be cheering and yelling my head off. Just the way I am.
If you root for your team to lose, you disgust me as a sports fan and as a human being.
So I remember there were those rooting for the Texans to lose during the 2-14 season so we could get #1 pick How did that work out ? not too well.Why would any passionate fan care if this disgusts you or bothers you? Since you've been in here all I've seen you demonstrate is homerish excuses for this coaching staff and this regime and poor logic and reasoning for doing so and just a few weeks ago you were having meltdowns in here at people who even questioned this coaching staff. Yeah, you're someone that an informed fan should worry about. People who spend their money and time and emotions into an organization can do whatever the hell they want, and what you think about that means nothing just because you have this unconditional man crush for Bob Mcnair just because he owns a team that operates under the "Houston" name. I've rooted for the Texans to lose out the rest of the games last season and I did this season as well, and by the results it's been proven that I was spot on for doing so. I want change. I want a new general that I can believe in and don't have to question every game, and if you're such a passionate fan like you claim you "should" want the same thing.
It's unfortunate to me as a fan that so many people that root for this team care more about winning one or two meaningless games than they do the overall success of an organization as a whole. Rooting for the Texans at this point in the season is not rooting for the success of this franchise because there is nothing to gain. It's rooting for Kubiak to keep his job, because that's all that's on the line with these last few games and I can't believe anyone would root for Gary Kubiak at this point. That tells me that they like him more than they like this team.
And more power to you JB. Every franchise needs many fans of your kind. Your passion for this team and franchise is wonderful. Every franchise needs fans of all kinds though. If we "all" sat back and praised the owner, the coaching staff, and the players now matter how poor they got on or off the field, then there would never be a reason to get better or to have any real commitment. My perspective as a fan right now though is that this team has no chance of winning a SB under what we have, so I want whatever happening that needs to happen in order so they are out of here and some other form of management or staff is here that can get us there. You still have some type of hope in a next year sort of way in these guys to pull it around. I don't have any, and because of that I can't even fathom wanting meaningless wins that will keep them here to waste more seasons when losses could possibly bring a new HC that I feel could get us to a SB.
I want all the success in the world for this team and want to see a dynasty era at some point. But losing right now to get a HC quicker puts us at that place faster potentially by losing now to get a new HC, then it does to win now and replace our coach way later on. That's my perspective any way.
You know, I'm thinking a good plan here is to turn on each other and insult each other. That should work quite well and get the Texans to a Super Bowl.
With that in mind, JB sucks.
No, it's not. It's reflective of your personality and mindset as a human being.
And we so wanted you to like us. I feel just terrible.I'd hate this fan base if we were 15-1 and #1 in everything.
I can't stand each and every last one of you regardless.
And we so wanted you to like us. I feel just terrible.
Thanks for the neg rep. LOL
I refuse to neg rep anybody. But the mindset of you as a human being was way out of line. IMHO Glad to know you're judge and jury of the human mind.
I truly am very glad that somebody like you (Those that put their heads in the sand) and judge others character because they disagree with you.
You and I are on different levels of toleration and I'm very glad to be on a different level than you.
I've got to give it to people like Dex,JB, TB etc.... they may disagree with my point of view. But atleast we are able to discuss things without each others feelings getting hurt.
You might consider lightening up. Life is short.
No one's judge and jury of anything. It's my opinion, man. If someone roots for their team to lose under any circumstance, then I think it reflects poorly. Simple as that. No one has to agree with it, if they don't want to.
I don't really care to lighten up when my opinions continue to be misconstrued. That's why I downdinged your post. Honestly, if there should be no downdings, then the system shouldn't exist. Can't believe we're doing this run-around again. I mean, what do I have to do, make a thread about how much I hate Kubiak? Do I have to bring up examples and screenshots from other boards "proving" that I've wished for Kubiak's departure since last year? Just because I'm not willing to slam him at EVERY turn? I've admitted plenty of times that "as far as W/Ls go, the Smithiak era has been a failure."
I'm normally a very easy-going guy, but the reason I've been posting with an edge here is because if you're not touting the company line in EVERY SINGLE POST YOU MAKE, you're some sort of outcast it seems. I guess that's how it is in life anyway, just gotta get used to it.
If it comes across as me being too tightly wound up, then whatever. Everyone's on edge. This team has severely underperformed. BUT it's no way to foster a winning attitude amongst the players by losing. I guarantee "Uncle BoB" will get rid of Kubiak, or at least strongly shake up the coaching staff. I'm PRETTY SURE he sees what we're seeing. We're message board geeks. We're extreme fans. On every board I visit that's specific to a team I root for, people pound the **** out of a specific issue or person. For this board, it's Kubiak. For the Suns, its Turkoglu/lack of PF/ownership. For the Braves, it was Bobby Cox. For the Sabres, it's coach/GM.
I don't know. Maybe I'm just not cut out for team-specific message boards. I understand it seems silly to think less of someone because they want their team to lose, but I think it does reflect poorly. I don't care to be told I'm trolling because I'm posting what I believe, like another dude said. Maybe I should just cut down on my posting, or something. I don't know.