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Cushing press conference @ 1pm Central

Kaiser Toro

Native Mod
I could care less about Cushing addressing anyone, just want him to address his regimen as it pertains to the NFL policy so that it has no impact on a loss of games, nor his level of play.
 

NBT

Waterboy
I just want Cushing to hurry up and get back on the field. The defense will not be the same without his physical presence.
 

Texan_Bill

Hall of Fame
I could care less about Cushing addressing anyone, just want him to address his regimen as it pertains to the NFL policy so that it has no impact on a loss of games, nor his level of play.
WOW KT, you and I are on the same page... Who da thunk it? ;)
 

Norg

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Iam so sick of this story Let it go people Man any story that comes out the NFLN takes it and milks it so bad
 

HOU-TEX

Ah, Football!
I could care less about Cushing addressing anyone, just want him to address his regimen as it pertains to the NFL policy so that it has no impact on a loss of games, nor his level of play.
Agreed. However, I do think he should address his team. As far as what he say to the media and the fans...pffft, it'll likely be bullbutter anyways.
 

dalemurphy

Hall of Fame
Agreed. However, I do think he should address his team. As far as what he say to the media and the fans...pffft, it'll likely be bullbutter anyways.
I couldn't disagree more. I think players and coaches have an obligation to the fans. I want to hear what he has to say. I only wish there were competent media representatives there to ask him good questions.
 

HOU-TEX

Ah, Football!
I couldn't disagree more. I think players and coaches have an obligation to the fans. I want to hear what he has to say. I only wish there were competent media representatives there to ask him good questions.
You actually think he'd tell the truth? It doesn't matter what the media asks if the player's going to dodge or lie while answering.
 

Goldensilence

hipster elite
I couldn't disagree more. I think players and coaches have an obligation to the fans. I want to hear what he has to say. I only wish there were competent media representatives there to ask him good questions.
Then again how many press conferences just turn into the person reading a scripted statement?
 

GP

Go Texans!
Preferably Justice. If not, McGobbler would suffice.
McGobbler. LOL!

Are you the one who has all the McGrady name-twists over in the NBA forum?

McGobbler is epic. I don't think I can rep you anymore right now. LOL x 1 billion.
 

Runner

Hubcap Diamond
Staff member
HOU-TEX said:
You actually think he'd tell the truth? It doesn't matter what the media asks if the player's going to dodge or lie while answering.
Yep. There is some history of athletes being disingenuous about supplement/drug/steroid use, to say the least. I don't think the bull on Cushing's helmet automatically makes him any more or less candid on the matter.
 

eriadoc

Texan-American
First of all, he took a substance that's on the banned list. That's not even debatable. So he's guilty.

Second, there's no way he's going to tell any truth other than that, if he even does that. If he truly, honestly believes he didn't take the substance (despite the failed test), then he will have to put the league on blast in order to say so. Calling the NFL a bunch of liars at this point is liable to get him a speech from the Godfather. If he is guilty of taking the substance (or worse), he's not going to say so.

The PC will be a waste of time.
 

drewmar74

disgruntled
LOL.

Then form tackle a random reporter. Never saying a single word the whole time.

Icing on the cake.
I want to see the "Against the Raiders for a safety" style takedown tackle.

BUT

I agree. It absolutely has to be done without a word being spoken.
 

HOU-TEX

Ah, Football!
McGobbler. LOL!

Are you the one who has all the McGrady name-twists over in the NBA forum?

McGobbler is epic. I don't think I can rep you anymore right now. LOL x 1 billion.
Ha, there were plenty of us that destroyed McPurse's name. He made it too easy.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
I couldn't disagree more. I think players and coaches have an obligation to the fans. I want to hear what he has to say. I only wish there were competent media representatives there to ask him good questions.
How's it up there on that moral mountian Dale.

Cushing doesn't owe me anything, you either.

He does owe the Texans an explanation. They write the checks and his actions are going to hurt the team. (4 game suspension)
 

GP

Go Texans!
After all, if you can't showboat about a failed drug test, what can you showboat about?
Remember former Rockets player Sam Cassell, and he would do his "Big Boy" dance where he holds his hands way down low, indicating large testicles?

Maybe Cushing could do a revised version of it?
 

Runner

Hubcap Diamond
Staff member
GP said:
Remember former Rockets player Sam Cassell, and he would do his "Big Boy" dance where he holds his hands way down low, indicating large testicles?

Maybe Cushing could do a revised version of it?
Picture the dance Roethlisberger could do to protest his suspension. Would that be more or less "funny"?

There could be a new trend of suspension dances.

Edit: I'm not equating Cushing's alleged violation to Roethlisberger's alleged crime. I'm just making a commentary about players protesting their suspensions through end zone celebrations.
 

GP

Go Texans!
Picture the dance Roethlisberger could do to protest his suspension. Would that be more or less "funny"?

There could be a new trend of suspension dances.
Ben would yank a random female from the stands, and then have his offensive linemen encircle Ben and the lady...with the lady slapping him and running back into the stands. Followed by the field goal kicker, dressed in security uniform, tasing Ben. And a facepalm by Tomlin on the sideline.

Chad Johnson gives it a 5.5 because, like the Russian judge, he's never going to admit that the competish really pulled off a good one.

I wanted to fit Davenport in there somehow, with a simulation of taking a dump. But I think that's pushing the envelope of tasteful discourse here.
 

GP

Go Texans!
Are you agreeing or calling foul on me?
Penalty called on you for severe unsportsmanlike conduct via Cushing doing the Injection Dance.

But the crowd goes wild, regardless, because we roll like that.

I approve.
 

GP

Go Texans!
Picture the dance Roethlisberger could do to protest his suspension. Would that be more or less "funny"?

There could be a new trend of suspension dances.

Edit: I'm not equating Cushing's alleged violation to Roethlisberger's alleged crime. I'm just making a commentary about players protesting their suspensions through end zone celebrations.
John Clayton is not happy with you right now.

And Adam Schein is on his Scheinbox with a quick rebuke of your statement.

You're so screwed.
 

Ole Miss Texan

Hall of Fame
I don't think Cushing necessarily "owes" us anything but at the end of the day, he IS in the entertainment industry and doesn't want the fans or media to look at him as a cheater or in any negative light. I do concur that he needs to address this with the League, Players Association, Texans Front Office and his Teammates... maybe even other players in the league.
 

The Pencil Neck

Hall of Fame
I don't think Cushing necessarily "owes" us anything but at the end of the day, he IS in the entertainment industry and doesn't want the fans or media to look at him as a cheater or in any negative light. I do concur that he needs to address this with the League, Players Association, Texans Front Office and his Teammates... maybe even other players in the league.

Why not? Lots of wrestlers make tons of money by being portrayed as cheaters and in general just being negative.

Unlike many "entertainers", his pay won't be determined by what the fans think of him. He could end up being a player like a Romanowski that most fans hated unless he was on their team.
 

drewmar74

disgruntled
I wanted to fit Davenport in there somehow, with a simulation of taking a dump. But I think that's pushing the envelope of tasteful discourse here.
When Dookie sees the young lady coming down from the stands, he grabs a 5 gallon gatorade jug and simulates dropping trou as he squats over it while watching the rest of Ben's celebration.

Meanwhile, Joe Buck says "That's disgusting."
 

GP

Go Texans!
When Dookie sees the young lady coming down from the stands, he grabs a 5 gallon gatorade jug and simulates dropping trou as he squats over it while watching the rest of Ben's celebration.

Meanwhile, Joe Buck says "That's disgusting."
No. Joe Buck says "That's...freaking AWESOME. Championship."

Or, "Wow. I did NOT see that one coming. Davenport with the exclamation point right there. And that'll just about do it, folks. Have a safe trip home, and require the Pittsburgh state troopers to show i.d. if they pull you over. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm Joe Buck."
 

Ole Miss Texan

Hall of Fame
Why not? Lots of wrestlers make tons of money by being portrayed as cheaters and in general just being negative.

Unlike many "entertainers", his pay won't be determined by what the fans think of him. He could end up being a player like a Romanowski that most fans hated unless he was on their team.
The media writes about these guys. Most players don't want to get on their bad side because they're just like anybody else. If they don't like you, it's easier for them to write bad stuff about you or sway things negatively. If you're a great player and have good relations with the media, they're less likely to throw you under the bus. I assume he doesn't want them writing about steroid stuff all the time throughout his career, especially after he does so well. If the writers see him in a negative light they're much more likely to to pound this into the ground instead of dropping it like they did with Peppers.

As far as the fanbase goes, we go to the games, we buy the merchandise. His contract with the team isn't determined by what we think, you're right about that. But there's merchandis to be sold, jerseys to be sold, radio shows to do, commercials to do, product placement, etc etc. That additional income. But besides that, its just not about money. I assume most players would rather be viewed positively by fans than negatively. He doesn't want to alienate the fanbase.
 

dalemurphy

Hall of Fame
How's it up there on that moral mountian Dale.

Cushing doesn't owe me anything, you either.

He does owe the Texans an explanation. They write the checks and his actions are going to hurt the team. (4 game suspension)
It's been a rough few days up here!

"They write the checks" because fans watch the games, and buy the merchandise. So, I think he absolutely owes me an explanation.
 

dalemurphy

Hall of Fame
You actually think he'd tell the truth? It doesn't matter what the media asks if the player's going to dodge or lie while answering.
I think it is often easy to tell when someone is lying or avoiding the truth. Think about McGwire in front of the Senate, for example. If Cushing truly hasn't taken stereoids and is concerned that others know that, he can offer the kind of willingness and evidence to make it pretty clear. When someone is being dishonest, they will naturally be inclined to limit information. If he goes to the podium and reads a statement and refuses to answer any questions, then he is clearly hiding something. If he is willing to answer questions in detail, is adamant about what he has and has not done, then he is either telling the truth or setting the stage to be caught and then publicly obliterated.
 

beerlover

Hall of Fame
I think it is often easy to tell when someone is lying or avoiding the truth. Think about McGwire in front of the Senate, for example. If Cushing truly hasn't taken stereoids and is concerned that others know that, he can offer the kind of willingness and evidence to make it pretty clear. When someone is being dishonest, they will naturally be inclined to limit information. If he goes to the podium and reads a statement and refuses to answer any questions, then he is clearly hiding something. If he is willing to answer questions in detail, is adamant about what he has and has not done, then he is either telling the truth or setting the stage to be caught and then publicly obliterated.
I wonder how the Cowboys in Jerryville would spin this :thinking:
 

The Pencil Neck

Hall of Fame
It's been a rough few days up here!

"They write the checks" because fans watch the games, and buy the merchandise. So, I think he absolutely owes me an explanation.
You're going to watch the games and buy the merchandise regardless of what Cushing says. You may not buy a Cushing jersey but there are lots of other player's jerseys that you will buy.
 

Runner

Hubcap Diamond
Staff member
HOU-TEX said:
You will have to explain that difference to me.
Umm, yeah, me too
From Spin 101 class:

Option 1. Cushing failed a drug test.
Casual observer: Failed! Drug! That's two bad things. This can't be good.

Option 2. Cushing tested positive for a banned substance.
Casual observer: The banned substance part sounds bad, but there is some positive here.

Option 3. Cushing tested positive for hCG.
Casual observer: Way to go Brian! High five!
 

The Pencil Neck

Hall of Fame
The media writes about these guys. Most players don't want to get on their bad side because they're just like anybody else. If they don't like you, it's easier for them to write bad stuff about you or sway things negatively. If you're a great player and have good relations with the media, they're less likely to throw you under the bus. I assume he doesn't want them writing about steroid stuff all the time throughout his career, especially after he does so well. If the writers see him in a negative light they're much more likely to to pound this into the ground instead of dropping it like they did with Peppers.

As far as the fanbase goes, we go to the games, we buy the merchandise. His contract with the team isn't determined by what we think, you're right about that. But there's merchandis to be sold, jerseys to be sold, radio shows to do, commercials to do, product placement, etc etc. That additional income. But besides that, its just not about money. I assume most players would rather be viewed positively by fans than negatively. He doesn't want to alienate the fanbase.
As fans, we're going to go to the games and buy the merchandise anyway. You may not buy a Cushing jersey, but you'll buy someone else's. And to the league, that's all that really matters.

And... publicity is publicity. Getting a lot of people talking negatively about you will actually get you more air time and more interviews and more people buying your jersey than no publicity at all. I mean, look at all the great things that guys like Okoye do. How much publicity have all his charitable acts given him? How many interviews? How many extra jerseys? Just by getting his name out there and mentioned a lot, people are going to be aware of him and pulling for him (or pulling against him).

If the press starts going after this guy, they could easily turn public opinion to his side.
 

Tailgate

Fall of Hame
Well, guess they better "figure" this whole HCG thing out "internally" and he better come back just as good for a long time.
 

The Pencil Neck

Hall of Fame
Are any of you knuckleheads actually watching the conference?
Yep.

His position is:

He doesn't know how the hell the hCG got into his system. He played the season thinking he had a tumor or something causing it. He's going to (or has been) working with doctors to try to find out what happened.
 

Thorn

Dirty Old Man
I watched it. And my stance hasn't changed. Until something comes along that offers up something real, because neither the NFL or Cushing has really presented anything but talk, I'm taking Cushing at his word.
 

Kimmy

RealGirls LvFB!
Yep.

His position is:

He doesn't know how the hell the hCG got into his system. He played the season thinking he had a tumor or something causing it. He's going to (or has been) working with doctors to try to find out what happened.
Why didn't he go to the doctor THEN?? Seriously -- I'm calling bullshit
 
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