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NFL Draft 2010: Day 1

I think Zierlein's mocks are based upon where he thinks the player will be drafted. Not what he thinks of the player.

You know, the more I think about this, the more I disagree with LZ, conceptually speaking.
I mean, I agree that the talent level of supporting or surrounding players can have an effect on how a player plays, or appears to play, but I think any good scout should be able to evaluate a player strictly on how he moves, reacts, tackles, etc... especially a CB, who is on an island more often that not.
I'm just saying that a fair evaluation of the guy's play should be possible, exclusive of the effect other defenders.


*edit.
I quoted the wrong post. I was actually responding to the following post:
Zierlein said in a recent podcast that Jackson was overrated due to playing in a great program with great players. We'll see.
 
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Man, that sucks... not that I wanted Best, but that`s another HB off the board... I can see a run on HBs at the beginning of the 2nd. I just really hope Gerhart is there for us...

im thinking (hopeing) for the same thing.. seabirds allready ruined my excitement
 
The Lions are set to have a pretty potent offense if Stafford can be a quality NFL QB. He'll have Calvin Johnson and Burlson to throw to on the outside with Pettigrew (when he recovers from the ACL) and Scheffler at the TEs. Best as a change of pace back and Smith toting the rock.

Schwartz also has Suh to cause some problems on the defensive side of the ball.
 
The Lions are set to have a pretty potent offense if Stafford can be a quality NFL QB. He'll have Calvin Johnson and Burlson to throw to on the outside with Pettigrew (when he recovers from the ACL) and Scheffler at the TEs. Best as a change of pace back and Smith toting the rock.

Schwartz also has Suh to cause some problems on the defensive side of the ball.

Don`t their O-Line suck?
 
Bulaage is maxed out on his potential and he has short arms like gallery. Jackson is a straight up cover guy and can come in right now and play.
 
I would like to mention I was the first on the board to talk about McCourtey as a first rounder months ago when many called him a 2nd. I will accept my accolades now!

Good job. And I will accept praise for posting that Patrick Robinson was a first round corner. A corner that the Texans should at least consider.
 
You know, the more I think about this, the more I disagree with LZ, conceptually speaking.
I mean, I agree that the talent level of supporting or surrounding players can have an effect on how a player plays, or appears to play, but I think any good scout should be able to evaluate a player strictly on how he moves, reacts, tackles, etc... especially a CB, who is on an island more often that not.
I'm just saying that a fair evaluation of the guy's play should be possible, exclusive of the effect other defenders.

Nothing against Z. I like the guy. But I feel the same about all the McShays, Kippers, & Mayocks. I like what they do, I find their stuff interesting, sometimes entertaining.

But not only are they not the guys making actual picks, they aren't even on the staff of the guys making actual picks. They aren't, and never were GMs, head coaches, or scouts.

I put more thought in the mocks from the guys on this board than the MSM guys.
 
So, now we have a second round with:

Taylor Mays
Lamarr Houston
Nate Allen
Toby Gerhart
Jon Asamoah
Terrence Cody
Brian Price
Chad Jones
Jonathan Dwyer

still on the board. Who might fall to us, and who would you take?
 
So, now we have a second round with:

Taylor Mays
Lamarr Houston
Nate Allen
Toby Gerhart
Jon Asamoah
Terrence Cody
Brian Price
Chad Jones
Jonathan Dwyer

still on the board. Who might fall to us, and who would you take?

Allen. i'd also take Gerhart.
 
Anyone else watching on the NFL channel and getting SICK TO DEATH of listening to Mike Mayock lisp his way through the draft?
 
So, now we have a second round with:

Taylor Mays
Lamarr Houston
Nate Allen
Toby Gerhart
Jon Asamoah
Terrence Cody
Brian Price
Chad Jones
Jonathan Dwyer

still on the board. Who might fall to us, and who would you take?

Burnett is also available.
 
Anyone else watching on the NFL channel and getting SICK TO DEATH of listening to Mike Mayock lisp his way through the draft?

Oh yeah. But its better than listening to McShay, Kiper and that raspy Chris Berman. NFL Network blew ESPN away.
 
So, now we have a second round with:

Taylor Mays
Lamarr Houston
Nate Allen
Toby Gerhart
Jon Asamoah
Terrence Cody
Brian Price
Chad Jones
Jonathan Dwyer

still on the board. Who might fall to us, and who would you take?

Cody or Price

Gerhart is too old school for me. I'd rather have a versatile guy like Hardasy or McKnight later in the draft
 
Open to taking ____ in the 2nd.

Morgan Burnett
Nate Allen
Jonathan Dwyer
Lamarr Houston
Brian Price
Bruce Campbell
Roger Saffold
Charles Brown
Jon Asamoah
 
I´d go with them in that order:

1. Toby Gerhart
2. Tayler Mays (has too much potential to not take him in the 2nd)
3. Nate Allen
4. Lamarr Houston
5. Morgan Burnett
6. Brian Price
7. Jon Asamoah
8. Jonathan Dwyer
9. Chad Jones
10. Terrence Cody
 
So, now we have a second round with:

Taylor Mays
Lamarr Houston
Nate Allen
Toby Gerhart
Jon Asamoah
Terrence Cody
Brian Price
Chad Jones
Jonathan Dwyer

still on the board. Who might fall to us, and who would you take?

The more I think about it, the less I think we'll go for a DT in the second, unless he is an absolute steal.

Barwin was already getting more snaps at DE, we'll be moving Antonio inside more often, Amobi is going to start......

I'd love to land Houston.

I just don't see it happening.
 
Anyone else watching on the NFL channel and getting SICK TO DEATH of listening to Mike Mayock lisp his way through the draft?

I watched NFL channel, but between checking Cowboys war room, TexansTalk, Ranch Report, phone calls, and tracking the drafts, I missed most of the commentary.
 
The more I think about it, the less I think we'll go for a DT in the second, unless he is an absolute steal.

Barwin was already getting more snaps at DE, we'll be moving Antonio inside more often, Amobi is going to start......

I'd love to land Houston.

I just don't see it happening.

What position do you think we will draft? I think, for us any other HB than Gerhart is a reach. I´m not sure O-Line has much more value for us here than later in the draft. So that leaves FS and DT, and here I expect them to take best player availabe.
 
Anyone else watching on the NFL channel and getting SICK TO DEATH of listening to Mike Mayock lisp his way through the draft?

No im watching ESPN wanting to gag Steve Young.

He is truely terrible. Tom Jackson looked like he wanted to stangle him as he kept interrupting him.
 
Nothing against Z. I like the guy. But I feel the same about all the McShays, Kippers, & Mayocks. I like what they do, I find their stuff interesting, sometimes entertaining.

But not only are they not the guys making actual picks, they aren't even on the staff of the guys making actual picks. They aren't, and never were GMs, head coaches, or scouts.

I put more thought in the mocks from the guys on this board than the MSM guys.

I don't always agree with alot of the guys out there but I think you are making their work into a little more of a lark. Some of these guys watch as much film as the scouts. That is how they make their living. Heck just local guys LZ and Jon Harris put out a draft guide that was as detailed as any I have seen. Harris watches film religiously. So overall I doubt our talk around here and the micks are close to what they cover.
 
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