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Dunta Robinson, Texans to Part Ways

Super Mario said:
Just admit that yall are more mad at Dunta for making 9.5 million this season, and making a big fuss last offseason, than you are mad at him for his overall play and we will be done with this.
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I think we have another glaring need with DRob gone so we'd BETTER sign a starter free agent to fill one of our holes.

With no cap and needs at RB, OLine, D-Line pass rush, I'd keep him for one year.

He wasn't the best, but he is a legit NFL starter - we just had NO pass rush. Now I am not convinced we have a legit NFL starting CB. (read - STARTING, not Pro Bowl).
 
Shaft75 said:
I just really don't see the worth man, period. Like I said, the guy wants top money and isn't worth it. This is a business matter, correct?
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we only had to give him top money for one year. other teams are going to give him top money for multiple years...and teams will be lining up to do it especially this year. you know why? because it will help them win football games. they aren't worried about writing on shoes or God forbid, spending money. they want to win....its obvious we know where Bob's priorities are. Profit. Profit. Profit.

i'll give you one better. when we don't have a football season in 2011 you can give Bob a big kiss on the lips for that one too. he is one of the hardliners wanting to end revenue sharing so he can make more money. it sure isn't being spent on the product on the field. 2nd tier Free Agents. 2nd tier Coaching. 2nd tier franchise.

but whatever, everyone has a red arse for Dunta because he was a jerk last year during contract negotiations. so screw keeping our team's talent and making the next step...lets make an example of him and make our team less competitive in the process...freaking brilliant. hoo-freaking-ray.

i want our team to win. this doesnt help us win in 2010. no way. no how. but its a good move....*crickets*

how is that a good thing? are some of you getting profit sharing from Bob? geez. be objective..for once.

the salary cap isn't going to come in and rip your children from your arms. there isn't even a salary cap this year. how can fans who want to win support this move especially when the owner has plainly and clearly stated that they will not be players in this years Free Agent crop...and then go one further and not even retain non-FAs all the while providing probably the #3 or #4 Free Agent overall to the FA talent pool...great move, Einsteins.
 
Super Mario said:
Didnt see this coming. We are on the same page here.
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For the both of you...

I would rather have the hungry player that wants to earn his pay. I would rather have guys that make plays.

I offered it up... Tell me what plays this dude made and how he earned his 10 mill. I'm willing to listen.
 
Yankee_In_TX said:
I think we have another glaring need with DRob gone so we'd BETTER sign a starter free agent to fill one of our holes.

With no cap and needs at RB, OLine, D-Line pass rush, I'd keep him for one year.

He wasn't the best, but he is a legit NFL starter - we just had NO pass rush. Now I am not convinced we have a legit NFL starting CB. (read - STARTING, not Pro Bowl).
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Why award a player with a probowler's salary when he hasn't earned it? I just don't get it.

Go another direction, the dude is obviously not a lock imo.
 
Shaft75 said:
For the both of you...

I would rather have the hungry player that wants to earn his pay. I would rather have guys that make plays.

I offered it up... Tell me what plays this dude made and how he earned his 10 mill. I'm willing to listen.
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Keep waiting...they'll find a good play one of these days.
 
Yankee_In_TX said:
I think we have another glaring need with DRob gone so we'd BETTER sign a starter free agent to fill one of our holes.

With no cap and needs at RB, OLine, D-Line pass rush, I'd keep him for one year.

He wasn't the best, but he is a legit NFL starter - we just had NO pass rush. Now I am not convinced we have a legit NFL starting CB. (read - STARTING, not Pro Bowl).
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Thats the problem. McNair doesnt want to buy a player via FA, that costs too much. The Texans save 10 million and the team gets worse by starting a rookie CB via the draft.

It will be interesting to see what they do with OD and Ryans. Both are RFA's meaning the smart thing would be to tender them.

I will be pissed if the Texans release Dunta, tender OD and DR, and dont spend a dime via FA.
 
Super Mario said:
Just admit that yall are more mad at Dunta for making 9.5 million this season, and making a big fuss last offseason, than you are mad at him for his overall play and we will be done with this.
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I can't do that because while it's close to true it's not the truth. I'm mad at Dunta because once a week I watched him do something just incredibly stupid/hopeless/mindless/idiotic on the field and I know he's capable of better play than that. I'm not talking about a step he lost due to injury, I'm talking about taking lousy angles and not wrapping up guys. I'm talking about weak coverage and giving guys Petey Faggins size cushions at inexplicable moments during games. Starting at the end of 2008 and right up until he realized that he'd pretty played himself out of any rational justification for a big contract offer Dunta Robinson was a fool and played nothing like the guy he was before then.

It was either intentional or.... I don't know. I have no idea what was wrong with him but he wasn't himself (and even as himself he's not worth the kind of money he thinks he is).

He can play and he can start for somebody and he will get overpayed by someone but I'm glad it's not my team again. We'll never be done with this because Dunta's got his White Knights ready to defend his honor and Dunta's got his haters ready to run him out of town as soon as possible.

I might be a hater but it's not for the stuff you're talking about. Not primarily.
 
HuttoKarl said:
I'm mad at Dunta for making an issue about only getting 10 million a year for playing like a league minimum depth player...good riddance.
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league minimum depth player? did you watch the games? he was our #1 corner. how is that league minimum or if I was to delude myself to even believe that he is that bad, what does that say about the rest of our DBs. from your warped perspective that means these guys behind him must really suck the big one....but no, lets make them starters in Peyton's division.

when Dunta is cashing a fat check from a team trying to win football games and not just farm money, keep calling him league minimum. after all, every league minimum guys gets paid $10 million. Just sayin, but people in the NFL do no consider him a bad player. in fact, he will be the #1 corner in this Free Agent pool. Other teams make an effort to retain their guys. But what do we know? we just had a 9-7 season. start the parades and re-sign the coach to the maximum extension....screw that. lifetime contract for Kubes.
 
Super Mario said:
Just admit that yall are more mad at Dunta for making 9.5 million this season, and making a big fuss last offseason, than you are mad at him for his overall play and we will be done with this.
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barrett said:
brilliant. thank you.
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Color me as never having been impressed. He supported the run okay and could hit hard, that's about it. He wasn't a playmaker. I never considered him good in coverage. Average at best. His rookie season was his best.
 
Super Mario said:
Thats the problem. McNair doesnt want to buy a player via FA, that costs too much. The Texans save 10 million and the team gets worse by starting a rookie CB via the draft.

It will be interesting to see what they do with OD and Ryans. Both are RFA's meaning the smart thing would be to tender them.

I will be pissed if the Texans release Dunta, tender OD and DR, and dont spend a dime via FA.
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prepare to be pissed.
 
Hervoyel said:
I can't do that because while it's close to true it's not the truth. I'm mad at Dunta because once a week I watched him do something just incredibly stupid/hopeless/mindless/idiotic on the field and I know he's capable of better play than that. I'm not talking about a step he lost due to injury, I'm talking about taking lousy angles and not wrapping up guys. I'm talking about weak coverage and giving guys Petey Faggins size cushions at inexplicable moments during games. Starting at the end of 2008 and right up until he realized that he'd pretty played himself out of any rational justification for a big contract offer Dunta Robinson was a fool and played nothing like the guy he was before then.

It was either intentional or.... I don't know. I have no idea what was wrong with him but he wasn't himself (and even as himself he's not worth the kind of money he thinks he is).

He can play and he can start for somebody and he will get overpayed by someone but I'm glad it's not my team again. We'll never be done with this because Dunta's got his White Knights ready to defend his honor and Dunta's got his haters ready to run him out of town as soon as possible.

I might be a hater but it's not for the stuff you're talking about. Not primarily.
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:bravo:

The defense rests your honor.
 
Hervoyel said:
I can't do that because while it's close to true it's not the truth. I'm mad at Dunta because once a week I watched him do something just incredibly stupid/hopeless/mindless/idiotic on the field and I know he's capable of better play than that. I'm not talking about a step he lost due to injury, I'm talking about taking lousy angles and not wrapping up guys. I'm talking about weak coverage and giving guys Petey Faggins size cushions at inexplicable moments during games. Starting at the end of 2008 and right up until he realized that he'd pretty played himself out of any rational justification for a big contract offer Dunta Robinson was a fool and played nothing like the guy he was before then.

It was either intentional or.... I don't know. I have no idea what was wrong with him but he wasn't himself (and even as himself he's not worth the kind of money he thinks he is).

He can play and he can start for somebody and he will get overpayed by someone but I'm glad it's not my team again. We'll never be done with this because Dunta's got his White Knights ready to defend his honor and Dunta's got his haters ready to run him out of town as soon as possible.

I might be a hater but it's not for the stuff you're talking about. Not primarily.
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for the record, I am not a white knight. I just don't see how this helps the team?
 
Second Honeymoon said:
OD? coming off an injury? why lock up guys who can be RFA'ed. This isn't Boy Scouts. Its the NFL.

pay the guys you need to pay to retain them and give the other guys money when they are entitled to it.

not rocket science.
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They're going to have to re-sign them before the 2010 season ends anyway. Otherwise, all the players that were 4 year players that are restricted this season due to no CBA will become FA around this time next year. We're talkin about mass free agency! Without doing the math, I'd say there'd be upwards of 400-500 Fa's at once.

I think teams will begin signing their RFA's sooner rather than later. As far as the Texans are concerned, I'd lock up D-Ryans and have OD, Pollard and the rest play out the 2010 season. If they play well, re-sign them right after the season.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
for the record, I am not a white knight. I just don't see how this helps the team?
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It's impossible to see how this plays out on February 24th so hold your horses for the moment. Is anyone really going to offer Dunta ridiculous stupid money? I assume so. We don't know. Are the Texans planning on drafting a CB in the first round and know they're going to pick up a free agent RB? We don't know. Do the Texans plan on making some kind of trade down to grab more picks? Do they plan on trading for Nnamdi Asomugha? We just don't know.

It's pointless to rage about this stuff right now. See what happens with the free agents first, then maybe get all bent out of shape at the team or better yet wait and see what the draft and free agency combined get us. Then get mad about it (or not).

Dunta is a "part". Nothing more. He's not even close to being the best performing part on the team. By some estimates (that are not single stats or without merit) he's not even the second best CB on this team but we're all arguing over him like we just traded a guy who really did deserve franchise money. He's not Brian Cushing or DeMeco Ryans. He's not even Zac Diles or Bernard Pollard. We found Pollard on the scrap heap and look how that turned out.

Lets see what they plan to do to address his absence and their other needs before we get that upset about seeing him go out the door.
 
Shaft75 said:
Chad had over 100 yards that game... Dunta had 4 tackles
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C'mon man, he made enough plays to warrant this:

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Top Ten Starting Cornerback Contracts (in millions of dollars)											
Rank	Player	Club	Age at	Signing	New	Guarantee	Guar./	Guar.	Total	Avg./	3-Year
			Signing	Date	Years		Year	Pct	New Money	Year	Total
1	Asomugha, NnamdiOAK	27	2/19/2009	3	$25.1m	$8.4m	55.10%	$45.5m	$15.2m	$45.5m
2	Robinson, Dunta	HOU	27	9/7/2009	1	$10.0m	$10.0m	100.00%	$10.0m	$10.0m	--
3	Samuel, Asante	PHI	27	3/1/2008	6	$23.6m	$3.9m	41.30%	$57.1m	$9.5m	$32.1m
4	Clements, Nate	SF	27	3/3/2007	7	$21.6m	$3.1m	33.70%	$64.0m	$9.1m	$29.0m
5	Hall, DeAngelo	WAS	25	3/4/2009	6	$21.5m	$3.6m	39.80%	$54.0m	$9.0m	$30.0m
6	Gamble, Chris	CAR	25	11/28/2008	6	$23.0m	$3.8m	43.60%	$52.8m	$8.8m	$23.3m
7	Webster, Corey	NYG	26	12/15/2008	5	$21.0m	$4.2m	48.30%	$43.5m	$8.7m	$29.5m
8	Hayden, Kelvin	IND	25	2/19/2009	5	$17.8m	$3.6m	41.30%	$43.0m	$8.6m	$29.0m
9	Newman, Terence	DAL	29	5/20/2008	6	$21.9m	$3.6m	43.60%	$50.2m	$8.4m	$22.5m
10	Trufant, Marcus	SEA	27	3/27/2008	6	$21.0m	$3.5m	41.80%	$50.2m	$8.4m	$28.0m

Under the Cap: Top 10 Cornerbacks
 
Still looking at the stats... All I see are 2 tackles here, 4 tackles there, and so on and so forth. His best game was against Jacksonville in a losing effort. Why throw so much money at a guy thats tapped out?
 
Second Honeymoon said:
most late in the game when game was decided...garbage time.

but knowing that would mean you had to watch the game and not just the box score 4 months later
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You're a bitter person and a crybaby.

Dunta's not worth the money and you know it.

So don't let your hate of Bob and Gary overshadow any objectivity you may have left in that narrow minded skull of yours.
 
Hervoyel said:
It's impossible to see how this plays out on February 24th so hold your horses for the moment. Is anyone really going to offer Dunta ridiculous stupid money? I assume so. We don't know. Are the Texans planning on drafting a CB in the first round and know they're going to pick up a free agent RB? We don't know. Do the Texans plan on making some kind of trade down to grab more picks? Do they plan on trading for Nnamdi Asomugha? We just don't know.

It's pointless to rage about this stuff right now. See what happens with the free agents first, then maybe get all bent out of shape at the team or better yet wait and see what the draft and free agency combined get us. Then get mad about it (or not).

Dunta is a "part". Nothing more. He's not even close to being the best performing part on the team. By some estimates (that are not single stats or without merit) he's not even the second best CB on this team but we're all arguing over him like we just traded a guy who really did deserve franchise money. He's not Brian Cushing or DeMeco Ryans. He's not even Zac Diles or Bernard Pollard. We found Pollard on the scrap heap and look how that turned out.

Lets see what they plan to do to address his absence and their other needs before we get that upset about seeing him go out the door.
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i appreciate the candor, herv. however, logic tells me that the #1 Free Agent cornerback is going to be getting a nice new deal with a new team. A big deal.

This isn't about you Herv, but isn't it kinda funny how the same people who are always saying 'build through draft' when making excuses for McNair's cheapskate ways are the same people who are wanting Dunta to be gone. Last time I checked Dunta was drafted. How is letting him go building through the draft. It's not like CB wasn't already an area of need WITH DUNTA. Now you take him out of the mix and its BBQ time for our secondary.

Yeah, Reeves is a #1....for a losing football team. Quin showed much promise but to act like he is ready to be a #2 is insane. It's not like Rick Smith has had much luck drafting corners in the past.

I want to win. This move doesn't help us win. SOmeone said, this helps the organization. I am guessing by organization, you mean McNair's profit margin. This in NO WAY helps the organization to win football games. It just lets McNair put some more money in his pocket that he has already stated himself that he will not be spending in Free Agency.

Now if they go out and get someone who can help our team win with the money they saved, I may be more on board with this move..but expect the price tag to be much higher and much riskier than a one year franchise tag and the cupboard is pretty darn bare...but I ain't holding my breath when I base things on McNair's own words and McNair's own track record. Knowing those facts, I am not supportive of this move one bit.

we stocked the FA pool with probably its 3rd or 4th best player...and we won't be getting anyone to replace him without spending an early pick on an unproven guy which in turn makes us neglect other areas of critical need like DT, C, and FS.
 
The Texans have a well thought out calculated plan.

They're in the process of executing those plans.

If Dunta was in those plans they would have made moves accordingly.

Anyone notice the team didn't contact Dunta all offseason?

There's a plan in place, we need to all just watch and let it unfold.
 
Shaft75 said:
You're a bitter person and a crybaby.

Dunta's not worth the money and you know it.

So don't let your hate of Bob and Gary overshadow any objectivity you may have left in that narrow minded skull of yours.
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Dunta is technically worth the money, that is why he is going to be a Free Agent. Because his agent knows he can get a much more lucrative contract than a 1 year Franchise tender. You are worth what you are going to get paid, and Dunta is going to get paid. Our owner couldn't even give him a one year deal no-strings attached because he is so cheap....that is unless you suck to high heaven like David Carr and Weaver and Greenwood. he'll pay those guys top $$.

As for being a bitter person and a crybaby, I will leave the namecalling out of this. I have a wonderful life, wonderful family, top notch education, great career, and have forgotten more about football than you will ever know. Plus I think the mods have better things to do than to pick up your roadkill carcass off the forum's virtual highway. I pointed something out to you about garbage time and showed you to be off base, ill-informed, and very skewed in your stat presentation.

also I feel hate is a strong word for my feelings towards Bob and Gary. Bob is in it for profit not winning and Gary shouldn't have been extended based on a .500 record. So I am not happy with either guy right now. I wouldn't call that hate. I did send Bob a letter explaining why I dropped 2 of our 4 PSL licenses this offseason, and there wasn't an ounce of hate in the letter. In fact, it was quite respectful. Not expecting a letter back, but if I do get something other than a form letter and a survey, I will respectfully post its contents on this board.

but whatever, we lost our #1 corner and that somehow made us a better team. *rolls eyes*
 
The number one turd in a pile of turds is still a turd.

Just because this is the worst free agent crop in recent memory doesn't mean we should overspend on a guy who isn't worth spending on.
 
m5kwatts said:
The Texans have a well thought out calculated plan.

They're in the process of executing those plans.

If Dunta was in those plans they would have made moves accordingly.

Anyone notice the team didn't contact Dunta all offseason?

There's a plan in place, we need to all just watch and let it unfold.
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and the plan is to drop $10 million in salary and not spend it anywhere else to improve the team.

that is from McNair's mouth. he isn't going to be a player in this year's Free Agency...

...all that you have to do is connect the dots. after all why should he?

people were practically throwing parades in this city over a 9-7 record.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
league minimum depth player? did you watch the games? he was our #1 corner. how is that league minimum or if I was to delude myself to even believe that he is that bad, what does that say about the rest of our DBs. from your warped perspective that means these guys behind him must really suck the big one....but no, lets make them starters in Peyton's division.

when Dunta is cashing a fat check from a team trying to win football games and not just farm money, keep calling him league minimum. after all, every league minimum guys gets paid $10 million. Just sayin, but people in the NFL do no consider him a bad player. in fact, he will be the #1 corner in this Free Agent pool. Other teams make an effort to retain their guys. But what do we know? we just had a 9-7 season. start the parades and re-sign the coach to the maximum extension....screw that. lifetime contract for Kubes.
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What others seem to be saying is that even though he may have been "OUR" #1 corner, he has performed sub-par. The rest of our DBs don't make $10M a year. You do not play players who perform sub-par $10M a year. Ranking him by stats does put him near league minimum if you look at CBs. As of the last couple of years he brought nothing special to our defense that Ryans couldn't do as far as leadership. Our CB play was not great with Dunta and he has never been a cover guy per se, plus his tackling has not been always there since his injury (maybe mental). You won't see many long term contracts being worked on RFA or UFA this off season with the looming CBA negotiations and talks of a lock out in 2011. So why use the tag on an average player? If someone throws $10M for 1 year (which I doubt) at him then so be it but with his play he should get about $2.5M with performance bonuses, that would be fair.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
Dunta is technically worth the money, that is why he is going to be a Free Agent. Because his agent knows he can get a much more lucrative contract than a 1 year Franchise tender. You are worth what you are going to get paid, and Dunta is going to get paid. Our owner couldn't even give him a one year deal no-strings attached because he is so cheap....that is unless you suck to high heaven like David Carr and Weaver and Greenwood. he'll pay those guys top $$.

As for being a bitter person and a crybaby, I will leave the namecalling out of this. I have a wonderful life, wonderful family, top notch education, great career, and have forgotten more about football than you will ever know. Plus I think the mods have better things to do than to pick up your roadkill carcass off the forum's virtual highway.

also I feel hate is a strong word for my feelings towards Bob and Gary. Bob is in it for profit not winning and Gary shouldn't have been extended based on a .500 record. So I am not happy with either guy right now. I wouldn't call that hate. I did send Bob a letter explaining why I dropped 2 of our 4 PSL licenses this offseason, and there wasn't an ounce of hate in the letter. In fact, it was quite respectful. Not expecting a letter back, but if I do get something other than a form letter and a survey, I will respectfully post its contents on this board.

but whatever, we lost our #1 corner and that somehow made us a better team. *rolls eyes*
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:spit:

*sorry, I just thought that was pretty funny*

*ahem* Carry on....I suppose
 
HuttoKarl said:
The number one turd in a pile of turds is still a turd.

Just because this is the worst free agent crop in recent memory doesn't mean we should overspend on a guy who isn't worth spending on.
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I can respect that Hutto, but how does this help us if Bob just puts the money in his pocket?
 
Second Honeymoon said:
Dunta is technically worth the money, that is why he is going to be a Free Agent. Because his agent knows he can get a much more lucrative contract than a 1 year Franchise tender. You are worth what you are going to get paid, and Dunta is going to get paid. Our owner couldn't even give him a one year deal no-strings attached because he is so cheap....that is unless you suck to high heaven like David Carr and Weaver and Greenwood. he'll pay those guys top $$.

As for being a bitter person and a crybaby, I will leave the namecalling out of this. I have a wonderful life, wonderful family, top notch education, great career, and have forgotten more about football than you will ever know. Plus I think the mods have better things to do than to pick up your roadkill carcass off the forum's virtual highway. I pointed something out to you about garbage time and showed you to be off base, ill-informed, and very skewed in your stat presentation.

also I feel hate is a strong word for my feelings towards Bob and Gary. Bob is in it for profit not winning and Gary shouldn't have been extended based on a .500 record. So I am not happy with either guy right now. I wouldn't call that hate. I did send Bob a letter explaining why I dropped 2 of our 4 PSL licenses this offseason, and there wasn't an ounce of hate in the letter. In fact, it was quite respectful. Not expecting a letter back, but if I do get something other than a form letter and a survey, I will respectfully post its contents on this board.

but whatever, we lost our #1 corner and that somehow made us a better team. *rolls eyes*
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LOL, you dropped 2 of your 4 PSL's because of your malcontent... Brilliant! That's commitment right there. You only halfway are pissed with the direction your team is going in.

Why would you act this way now though? The Texans are on the cusp of playoffs and just now you throw in half of the towel. Makes no sense to me. As a matter of fact, not much of your argument makes much sense.

Who in there right mind signs a par player for major money? Dan Snyder? Is that what you want, Dan Snyder? It's not like there isn't a huge talent pool that gms have to choose from.

DUNTA ROBINSON ISN'T EVEN A TOP 15 CB.

Now... why do you sign him as if he is top 5?

*BTW, I'm not an eye roller. I'm looking directly at you.*
 
Wanted to quote TB on his carr post but not sure how to do it over the phone.

so in response, i think i hold the record for most beers drank per carr sack . at that time i think had had a rating way above 1.0 during his tenure ... :tease:
 
This thread is Second Honeymoon v everyone else.

I'm pretty confident that between FA and the draft they can find another CB to perform on par or better than Dunta at a much lower price. I spent more time cursing him than any other Texan player not named Brown last season. He was Demarcus Faggins and Matt Stevens rolled into one player. Just thinking about how bad he played in certain games is getting my blood to boiling right now. HE F#*ckING BLOWS. Good riddance.
 
Wolf said:
Wanted to quote TB on his carr post but not sure how to do it over the phone.

so in response, i think i hold the record for most beers drank per carr sack . at that time i think had had a rating way above 1.0 during his tenure ... :tease:
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:um: Me wonders if you're not watching an old game on the DVR right now.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
and the plan is to drop $10 million in salary and not spend it anywhere else to improve the team.

that is from McNair's mouth. he isn't going to be a player in this year's Free Agency...

...all that you have to do is connect the dots. after all why should he?

people were practically throwing parades in this city over a 9-7 record.
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That $10 million in salary will come in handy when it comes time to pay OD and Captain Meco.... not to mention others who will be needing contracts.... AND not to mention our own current free agents Pitts and Walter

There's a well thought out plan in place dude, don't make it out to be some secret evil plan to remain mediocre and make 0 effort to improve the roster this offseason because thats far from the truth.
 
Shaft75 said:
LOL, you dropped 2 of your 4 PSL's because of your malcontent... Brilliant! That's commitment right there. You only halfway are pissed with the direction your team is going in.

Why would you act this way now though? The Texans are on the cusp of playoffs and just now you throw in half of the towel. Makes no sense to me. As a matter of fact, not much of your argument makes much sense.

Who in there right mind signs a par player for major money? Dan Snyder? Is that what you want, Dan Snyder? It's not like there isn't a huge talent pool that gms have to choose from.

DUNTA ROBINSON ISN'T EVEN A TOP 15 CB.

Now... why do you sign him as if he is top 5?

*BTW, I'm not an eye roller. I'm looking directly at you.*
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its called priorities, dude. I kept me and my brother's seats and sold the one's we took friends to. it's called raising kids and not always having all day to piss away on Sunday watching the Texans blow another lead when you got Little League, Brownies, JA, etc. It's called being a dad. When all my friends were single with no kids it was easy finding friends to go, but things change.

I also had a hard time dropping over 5k annually on tickets to something that is getting hard to believe in. They are on the cusp of the playoffs? you mean were. new season. no more pattycake schedule and no new blood coming in because that would actually cost money.

but whatever, make fun of me for only having 2 season tickets now. how many do you have? yeah, thats what I thought. zero.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
its called priorities, dude. I kept me and my brother's seats and sold the one's we took friends to. it's called raising kids and not always having all day to piss away on Sunday watching the Texans blow another lead.

but whatever, make fun of me for only having 2 season tickets now. how many do you have? yeah, thats what I thought. zero.
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Dude sits front row behind the SEZ endzone.
 
m5kwatts said:
That $10 million in salary will come in handy when it comes time to pay OD and Captain Meco.... not to mention others who will be needing contracts.... AND not to mention our own current free agents Pitts and Walter

There's a well thought out plan in place dude, don't make it out to be some secret evil plan to remain mediocre and make 0 effort to improve the roster this offseason because thats far from the truth.
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when it comes time to pay OD? OD just had major knee injury and a year removed away from FA. Oh, and news flash, there probably isn't going to be a 2010 season....thanks in large part to McNairs profit mongering. DeMeco will get paid but its not time to do so. Its not prudent and/or necessary.

What if we had paid OD his big salary last offseason like some people wanted to. Why commit when you dont have to?

But whatever, keep your torch burning for a pound of flesh from Dunta. At the end of the day, the team didn't improve. We took a step back. Period.
 
El Tejano said:
Think they'll franchise OD? Kind of handle the situation with OD like they did Dunta?
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I hope not. OD is a top five TE. The guy can win games for us and weve seen how bad we need him. I am not at all sad that we arent franchising D rob. I honestly hope he moves on down the road. On the other hand, I hope we sign OD to a contract that doesnt break our bank and makes him happy. I know there is a middle ground here, we just have to find it. OD is an asset while D rob is a virus.

Good riddance to bad rummage.
 
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