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Dunta Robinson, Texans to Part Ways

yea I noticed those grass stains on the cleets

stevn8r said:
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not very clean but the best I can do while at work!!! :kitten:
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This is before the end of season but I remember some posts on here and in the Chron and they were talked about on here. I think this was right before Christmas. According to ProFootballFocus.com, Dunta was the 96th ranked cornerback in the league. At that same juncture Dunta Robinson had 52 tackles, 43 solo(33rd for CB's) 9 Passes defensed(tied for 44th in the league) 0 INT's/1 FF. Glover Quin had more tackles, more solo tackles, and the same amount of passes defensed as Dunta.

No way that guy is worth the money.
 
I'm just waiting to see who decides to step up and "White Knight" Dunta now.

I know it's coming, I just don't know which poster it will be.
 
m5kwatts said:
Dont forget:

The Colts just went to the Super Bowl with a 3rd rounder and an undrafted guy as their starting CBs, and they found those 2 in a relatively weak CB draft

This CB draft class is mega deep which is one of the main reasons why I think they were confident in letting him go.

We can find Dunta's replacement in the 3rd-7th rounds and not have to change our draft or FA plans going forward because of that fact. Besides we were going to draft a DB or two anyways, even if Dunta was staying.

Also this makes it easier to keep our own UFA's Walter, Pitts, OD, and Demeco.
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Funny you mention the Colts. Have you ever noticed how The Colts staff comes to talk to Dunta after a game with us? I even recall a coach coming over to him one time telling him he was a hell of a player.

My money is on The Colts picking him up and us paying for it bad. Not because he's that good but because we are a Houston franchise.
 
El Tejano said:
Funny you mention the Colts. Have you ever noticed how The Colts staff comes to talk to Dunta after a game with us? I even recall a coach coming over to him one time telling him he was a hell of a player.

My money is on The Colts picking him up and us paying for it bad. Not because he's that good but because we are a Houston franchise.
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Why would they pay him when they have cheaper and arguably better options on their roster already? This is ridiculous and wouldn't fit the Colts MO at all.
 
No matter what, Dunta is gonna come out ahead. With the 10M he robbed the Texans for he only needs to get 13 guaranteed to come out ahead of the offer they gave him last year. Even if no one pays him 23M, I am certain he will get >13M. So I guess we can say Dunta is a very good businessman and a very poor corner. Go figure.
 
HOU-TEX said:
Originally Posted by Jackie Chiles
Was watching some Sports Center this morning and they had a little blurb about him not being franchised. They temporarily had his name spelled Duanta which I got a kick out of. Guess I can't complain too much though, probably 20% of our own fan base spells his name that way or worse.

:whistle:
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Thank you spell check nazi....:gun:
 
El Tejano said:
Funny you mention the Colts. Have you ever noticed how The Colts staff comes to talk to Dunta after a game with us? I even recall a coach coming over to him one time telling him he was a hell of a player.

My money is on The Colts picking him up and us paying for it bad. Not because he's that good but because we are a Houston franchise.
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Don't forget there are some odd restrictions on the final eight and final four teams in the playoffs with regard to free agents. I think the Colts can only sign a free agent after they lose one and the contract can't be any bigger than the one they lost.
 
CB is #1 pirority now this off season playing the colts twice with our current CB squad = Peyton lighting us ablaze
 
HoustonFrog said:
This is before the end of season but I remember some posts on here and in the Chron and they were talked about on here. I think this was right before Christmas. According to ProFootballFocus.com, Dunta was the 96th ranked cornerback in the league. At that same juncture Dunta Robinson had 52 tackles, 43 solo(33rd for CB's) 9 Passes defensed(tied for 44th in the league) 0 INT's/1 FF. Glover Quin had more tackles, more solo tackles, and the same amount of passes defensed as Dunta.
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Nevermind unimportant things like Robinson giving up 25% fewer yards per snap than Quin. I guess it's okay to get torched as long as you make a few flashy plays and pile up the tackle numbers after you give up a catch. :rolleyes:

No way that guy is worth the money.
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No real argument there.
 
Norg said:
CB is #1 pirority now this off season playing the colts twice with our current CB squad = Peyton lighting us ablaze
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One corner isn't gonna help that, it takes the whole unit to beat Manning. I like the 4th and 6th rounders we got last year, I trust Rick Smith in finding more value CBs in this draft.
 
This is how I will remember Dunta's play if someone were to mention him...


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Anyone remember this game?

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It was the game that Dunta got burned to allow the Titans to kick Bironas' record setting 8th field goal.... for the win.
 
Texan_Bill said:
Anyone remember this game?

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It was the game that Dunta got burned to allow the Titans to kick Bironas' record setting 8th field goal.... for the win.
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Yes I do, I was there what an emotional roller coaster that game was. To be fair that pass that put the titans in FG range was perfect execution IIRC, there was nothing that Dunta could have done, he was all over the receiver, I couldn't believe it was a completion. However, I am sure he was burned a few other times during that game.
 
Norg said:
CB is #1 pirority now this off season playing the colts twice with our current CB squad = Peyton lighting us ablaze
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That happened with Robinson on the field too. We're no more vulnerable with his absence.

The silver lining I see around our historically miserable DB situation is that Rick Smith has been unrelenting in addressing it, and it is slowly improving. He's made good decisions (Quin), and unfruitful ones (Molden), but I feel his decision for Robinson is correct, and the need will be addressed in the draft.
 
Goatcheese said:
Nevermind unimportant things like Robinson giving up 25% fewer yards per snap than Quin. I guess it's okay to get torched as long as you make a few flashy plays and pile up the tackle numbers after you give up a catch. :rolleyes:



No real argument there.
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So your one stat trumps all my stats and my source? I'm not even sure of the source of your 25%. Maybe Quin gives a little bigger cushion and doesn't get burned as much. The point you missed completely is that Quin had similar or better stats in areas and yet Dunta is allegedly this top corner. BTW, profootballfocus uses a ton of things to come up with their rankings. Reeves was 41st, Quinn 74th and Dunta 98 to end the year. Those include these stats...

Dunta 594 yards, 11.0 average per game, 180 yards after catch and 3 TDs
Quin 587 yards, 11.5 average per game, 241 yards after catch and 1 TD.

So where is the big difference?

http://profootballfocus.com/by_posi...e=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1
 
I will miss seeing number 23 on the field with his big smile and dreads bouncing behind him.

This adds a BIG NEED at CB now.

I think next season which ever team he plays for he will have a good season and have a decent amount of picks.

I guess at least I got to see him lay one more of those Dunta hits that I love to watch against the Pats in his final game.

He did some stupid stuff last year but he is still a good player and will be missed, I wish him luck wherever he goes.

Now I do not think that just drafting a CB is going to cut it, we need to draft a CB and sign a play maker type of CB in the FA market!
 
HoustonFrog said:
So your one stat trumps all my stats and my source? I'm not even sure of the source of your 25%. Maybe Quin gives a little bigger cushion and doesn't get burned as much. The point you missed completely is that Quin had similar or better stats in areas and yet Dunta is allegedly this top corner. BTW, profootballfocus uses a ton of things to come up with their rankings. Reeves was 41st, Quinn 74th and Dunta 98 to end the year. Those include these stats...

Dunta 594 yards, 11.0 average per game, 180 yards after catch and 3 TDs
Quin 587 yards, 11.5 average per game, 241 yards after catch and 1 TD.

So where is the big difference?

http://profootballfocus.com/by_posi...e=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1
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The price tag. :)
 
Having said that, I noticed on TC's fanhouse post that she used the image of him getting beat by Kenny Britt against the tacks. It's appropriate that she used that image. It's one of the ones that really represents why many fans will be glad to see him go. He got burned by a rookie on a simple route in a critical situation. As you know, I've watched and re-watched the games and I am in the camp that feels like he played like one of the worst corners on the team last year. HOWEVER, I am also in the camp that wishes we could have kept him for another year no matter the cost. It's not my money so it's easy for me to say that but I believe it would have made sense to draft someone and give them a year of insurance with #23 as a starter. He did, after all improve from week to week. (It's not saying much but it's still the case.) I am mostly disappointed that we move CB to the top of our priority list most likely and I feel like the team would have enjoyed the luxury of flexibility as it pertains to our needs in the first 3 rounds. Now we probably have a much more clear need at that position.
 
barrett said:
Forced a fumble against Jax to keep us in the game.
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Okay, there's one. Tell me that came off the top of the dome man. Or did you have to research it?

Any others?

Actually, if I had the time I would research how many plays the good corners in the league made this year. Or, in a nutshell, how they EARNED their pay.
 
HoustonFrog said:
So your one stat trumps all my stats and my source? I'm not even sure of the source of your 25%. Maybe Quin gives a little bigger cushion and doesn't get burned as much. The point you missed completely is that Quin had similar or better stats in areas and yet Dunta is allegedly this top corner. BTW, profootballfocus uses a ton of things to come up with their rankings. Reeves was 41st, Quinn 74th and Dunta 98 to end the year. Those include these stats...

Dunta 594 yards, 11.0 average per game, 180 yards after catch and 3 TDs
Quin 587 yards, 11.5 average per game, 241 yards after catch and 1 TD.

So where is the big difference?

http://profootballfocus.com/by_posi...e=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1
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Bodden is top 14, pay him the $12M, offer him the big contract.

Only FA in the top 30.
 
I've wanted him gone and so here it is and I don't know how to feel about it really.

They have to draft a CB and make a legitimate effort for a FS. Wilson would make excellent depth at S. The secondary didn't just lose it's best player which is Pollard but it did lose a starter. Have to dedicate some money or some high draft picks to fixing the 2ndary...the front 7 is turning the corner even with the weakness at DT.

Quin - Draft/FA - Pollard - 1st round pick
nickel- reeves
dime-mccain
bench warmer- bennett
ir list warmer- molden
 
Mailman said:
Typical SH, typical wrong.

Dunta Robinson is nowhere close to a top-five cornerback. You want the team to win by dramatically overpaying an average-at-best CB instead of using that money elsewhere? Yeah, that makes a ton of sense.
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how am i wrong? you have an opportunity to retain a player that started for your team and was the #1 corner. yes, it would be expensive, but you wouldn't be on the hook for the future or a long term deal.

its obvious you have been living in a hole in the ground because you are talking about spending the money elsewhere. McNair has already said that they don't expect to make any big moves in free agency.....so do the math, Einstein. That means we won't be getting anyone with the money that Bob saved to replace him or improve other spots on our team.

so its pure logic. let me spell it out.

we lost one of our better players, albeit a much maligned player since Pay Me Rick, and we got nothing for him and are now without our #1 corner. we aren't going to replace him with anyone because HE IS THE #1 GUY OUT THERE AVAILABLE. how does that help us?

sometimes I think some of these fans think that the salary cap is like the boogieman or that you are spending your own money on Dunta.

Bob saved some money and didn't improve the team and doesn't intend to spend the money saved on anyone else. how is that good?

but yeah, im wrong. we lose our #1 corner and somehow that is a good move....freakin lunacy.
 
BigBull17 said:
You're talking about paying an average at best CB 10+ million a year. If we franchised him again, we would be fools. He is in no way worth near that money. Use it to lock up Meco and OD.
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OD? coming off an injury? why lock up guys who can be RFA'ed. This isn't Boy Scouts. Its the NFL.

pay the guys you need to pay to retain them and give the other guys money when they are entitled to it.

not rocket science.
 
Super Mario said:
Just admit that yall are more mad at Dunta for making 9.5 million this season, and making a big fuss last offseason, than you are mad at him for his overall play and we will be done with this.
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I just really don't see the worth man, period. Like I said, the guy wants top money and isn't worth it. This is a business matter, correct?
 
I'm mad at Dunta for making an issue about only getting 10 million a year for playing like a league minimum depth player...good riddance.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
how am i wrong? you have an opportunity to retain a player that started for your team and was the #1 corner. yes, it would be expensive, but you wouldn't be on the hook for the future or a long term deal.

its obvious you have been living in a hole in the ground because you are talking about spending the money elsewhere. McNair has already said that they don't expect to make any big moves in free agency.....so do the math, Einstein. That means we won't be getting anyone with the money that Bob saved to replace him or improve other spots on our team.

so its pure logic. let me spell it out.

we lost one of our better players, albeit a much maligned player since Pay Me Rick, and we got nothing for him and are now without our #1 corner. we aren't going to replace him with anyone because HE IS THE #1 GUY OUT THERE AVAILABLE. how does that help us?

sometimes I think some of these fans think that the salary cap is like the boogieman or that you are spending your own money on Dunta.

Bob saved some money and didn't improve the team and doesn't intend to spend the money saved on anyone else. how is that good?

but yeah, im wrong. we lose our #1 corner and somehow that is a good move....freakin lunacy.
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Didnt see this coming. We are on the same page here.
 
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