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Dunta Robinson, Texans to Part Ways

infantrycak said:
Pretty much Leigh Bodden is the only FA out there.
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And there's reports he will be resigning with the pat's.

Leigh Bodden, who is one of the top cornerbacks scheduled for unrestricted free agency, has re-hired his former agent Alvin Keels.

The change shouldn't have a major impact when it comes to the possibility of the Patriots re-signing Bodden. It could have if the Patriots and Bodden's former agent had advanced talks, but that didn't seem to be the case.

Keels had negotiated Bodden's one-year, $2.25 million contract with the Patriots in 2009, a deal which included a provision that the team could not assign the franchise tag to Bodden in 2010. The idea was that Bodden could re-establish himself in New England and then set himself up for a market-value contract.

The Patriots had also offered Bodden a longer-term contract at the time.

So in that sense, with Bodden re-hiring Keels, the sides could potentially pick up where they left off last year on the talks regarding a longer-term deal.

Bodden had a solid season for the Patriots in 2009, leading the club with 17 passes defensed, playing 82 percent of the defensive snaps, and tying for the team lead with five interceptions.

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4675120/bodden-re-hires-former-agent
 
I've been saying since last year that Dunta was done here. I don't think he could have been any more clear in his response to being tagged last year. From day one he turned down a generous contract offer that nobody in their right mind would have walked away from assuming a similar post-injury situation. Then he turns around and acts like a complete asshat over the injustice of being paid stupid money for a year, sits out of camp (showing terrible judgement and making himself look like a cancer in the process) ensuring that he'd start the season behind the curve and out of playing shape. The cherry on top is that over the course of the entire season he proved conclusively that he wasn't even close to being the player he was prior to his injury.

What's the saying about life being even harder if you're stupid? From here on out I'm calling that "Dunta's Law".

I am surprised that the Texans don't seem interested in making him any kind of offer at all though. I mean, he did play lousy last year but I always thought that the only people more impressed with Dunta than Dunta were the Houston Texans brain trust (old and new). Clearly the bloom is off that relationship now. Dunta will get more than he's worth from somebody but thankfully it won't be us now. I just think that there's got to be some way to leverage his departure into some kind of return, however small for us.
 
Now that I think about it maybe letting Dunta go is part of the plan to bring the apparently now available Nnamdi Asomugha. I mean, if you're going to pay stupid money for a CB you might as well pay for the best and get one who actually is a Pro Bowl CB instead of one who just thinks he is.

Dunta goes away, Nnamdi comes to town. We start Nnamdi & Quin or Reeves depending on who wins that battle and we're back to just looking for depth.

Never happen I know. Still fun to think about.
 
infantrycak said:
Pretty much Leigh Bodden is the only FA out there.
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Yeah, but he's not any better than what we had with Dunta. So we're basically going to be stuck using a high pick on a rookie CB, which to me, is kind of frustrating.

Now, if we were to miraculously shore up one of our other needs via FA with what's out there, it might not be so frustrating. Like...oh, say getting Antrel Rolle to come here as our FS. I know, I dreaming
 
HOU-TEX said:
This is the only thing that bothers me about him leaving. Now that we're not bringing Dunta back it's going to force the CB position to be more of a priority over DT, FS, C/G, etc. this off-season.

They like Quin and McCain's decent, but as a #2? Jacque 'Don't Look Back' Reeves is NOT the answer as our #2 or possibly even nickel back. To me, Molden and Bennett aren't even in the picture.

In the end, I wish Dunta well. Other than the one bad move last off-season, he was a good guy and I liked him.
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Yep, that's the part that bugs me too. As there doesn't appear to be much available in FA, we HAVE to shore up the CB position in the draft.

Maybe the Texans can find that franchise DT in the first round this year....oh wait...

:runaway:
 
Hervoyel said:
Now that I think about it maybe letting Dunta go is part of the plan to bring the apparently now available Nnamdi Asomugha. I mean, if you're going to pay stupid money for a CB you might as well pay for the best and get one who actually is a Pro Bowl CB instead of one who just thinks he is.

Dunta goes away, Nnamdi comes to town. We start Nnamdi & Quin or Reeves depending on who wins that battle and we're back to just looking for depth.

Never happen I know. Still fun to think about.
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Hey, Its an uncapped year..
 
Was watching some Sports Center this morning and they had a little blurb about him not being franchised. They temporarily had his name spelled Duanta which I got a kick out of. Guess I can't complain too much though, probably 20% of our own fan base spells his name that way or worse.
 
Section516 said:
We also need C, G for the RB to run behind. We have to retool the line. Don't put the cart before the horse, no RB is made of magic, they don't create the holes, they just find/run through them
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I never said they did. I just said it was a need that they have talked about addressing in the earlier rounds.
 
See ya Dumbta! How far has this guy fallen in the eyes of the fans of the Texans? This guy was at one time my favorite player to watch on the Texans by far. I loved the way he played the game with tenacity and aggressiveness. His downfall is that he attacked everything in his life with those same traits when a little tact would have been better. Some team out there will overpay for him. It's the NFL. I wish him the best, but this is a good move by the team (I hope).
 
Section516 said:
We also need C, G for the RB to run behind. We have to retool the line. Don't put the cart before the horse, no RB is made of magic, they don't create the holes, they just find/run through them
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Ok pal, don't go spreading your bullshit propaganda in here. I have it on good authority that Earl Campbell was 72.9% "magic" and the rest was made of cast iron.

That's in the history books. Look it up. :superman:
 
Would the Texans let him sell himself to another team, Said team comes in says we will pay you $700,000, not sure what his minumum is. after that can the Texans come back to offer $800,000 or is that a restricted Free agent.



If it were me I would have fired his ass after the PAY ME RICK incident
 
I wish Dunta the best. He never wanted to be here. He wants to be with a legitimate football team that's going to win RIGHT NOW.

Thing is, he's going to feel like a moron when he realizes WE are that team.
 
thanks to Dunta for being a dumbass greedy bastard
thanks to McNair for being a cheapass greedy bastard

does this team even want to win? dunta doesn't deserve top money but to franchise him another year wouldn't have hurt. low risk but mcnair is too cheap to do that. he only pays top dollar for scrubs like Carr and Weaver and Greenwood. if Dunta was named David Carr he would have gotten a lifetime extension
 
Super Mario said:
How dare he! lol
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LOL. Yeah. Personally, I'm so happy the guy is gone I feel like I've won the lottery. I think he's a loser, and a phony. He totally blew it with the fan base with his act last year.

As I said, I really wish him well in getting to the contending team that he wants to play on. If you're not happy playing in a city/on a team, then you should do what you need to do to make yourself happy.

Dunta was tired of being a Texan. He no longer is one.

It's over.
 
To franchise him would've meant that he made ~$22 million in two seasons. That would be a dumbass business decision by anyone.

Good riddance to an average - overpaid corner. I'll take my chances with Quinn and Reeves.

I just wrote on my shoes: "Leave us Dunta"! :kitten:
 
Texan_Bill said:
To franchise him would've meant that he made ~$22 million in two seasons. That would be a dumbass business decision by anyone.

Good riddance to an average - overpaid corner. I'll take my chances with Quinn and Reeves.

I just wrote on my shoes: "Leave us Dunta"! :kitten:
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I agree.

Richard Justice just wrote that the Texans bungled the negotiaions. I don't agree with that at all. I think the Texans handled Dunta just right. Justice said the Texans basically should have gotten on their knees and begged Dunta to get to camp, at any costs.

Thing is, we're no longer a "begging" franchise. We don't have to overpay free agents and we dont' have to cross our fingers and hope that player X will want to play here. We're past that as a franchise.

If you want to play here, fine. If you don't, fine.
 
Here's a good photoshop opportunity.

dunta-robinson-shoes.jpg
 
Hervoyel said:
Ok pal, don't go spreading your bullshit propaganda in here. I have it on good authority that Earl Campbell was 72.9% "magic" and the rest was made of cast iron.

That's in the history books. Look it up. :superman:
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You are wrong! I just looked it up and he used his magic to win a beer chugging contest last week so he is at 73.2% now.....What a man!
 
Good decision by the Texans.

Although he played better towards the end of the season, he was horrible for the most part. I seem to remember ALOT more pass interfences, missed tackles, and wide open WRs running against him then I remember his passes defended, tackles made, and INTs last season. I felt his poor play, and bad attitude, was part of the reason for the Texans falling short of the playoffs. The money that was to be spent on him can be much better utilized on an under the radar free agent DB who will perform much better.
 
Drob was one of my favorite palyers, but last season really soured me on him. I commend him for coming back from the injury, but he looked like an ass and a whiner after not accepting what seemed like a good deal. He didn't have a good season and I hope our current cb's step it up. They played better than he did. Pay Ryans & Daniels like the top tier players they are. They have shown that they are deserving.
 
Dont forget:

The Colts just went to the Super Bowl with a 3rd rounder and an undrafted guy as their starting CBs, and they found those 2 in a relatively weak CB draft

This CB draft class is mega deep which is one of the main reasons why I think they were confident in letting him go.

We can find Dunta's replacement in the 3rd-7th rounds and not have to change our draft or FA plans going forward because of that fact. Besides we were going to draft a DB or two anyways, even if Dunta was staying.

Also this makes it easier to keep our own UFA's Walter, Pitts, OD, and Demeco.
 
stevn8r said:
You are wrong! I just looked it up and he used his magic to win a beer chugging contest last week so he is at 73.2% now.....What a man!
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My figures only covered Earl's playing days. The relative percentage of magic vs. cast iron may have changed in the years since he retired. Earl might have become more magical or possibly tougher and we'd have no way of knowing that since the NFL no longer monitors him (for the safety of other players).
 
Second Honeymoon said:
thanks to Dunta for being a dumbass greedy bastard
thanks to McNair for being a cheapass greedy bastard

does this team even want to win? dunta doesn't deserve top money but to franchise him another year wouldn't have hurt. low risk but mcnair is too cheap to do that. he only pays top dollar for scrubs like Carr and Weaver and Greenwood. if Dunta was named David Carr he would have gotten a lifetime extension
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Typical SH, typical wrong.

Dunta Robinson is nowhere close to a top-five cornerback. You want the team to win by dramatically overpaying an average-at-best CB instead of using that money elsewhere? Yeah, that makes a ton of sense.
 
It always seemed like dunta gave up the first down. Wasn't a playmaker and not worth the money. Good bye. Use the money elsewhere. On our other Fa's or bringing in new FA's.
 
Last year Dunta was just kind of "wrong" all year. It's like almost every decision he made since returning after his injury was wrong and/or poorly thought out. On the field he never looked like the guy he wanted to be paid like and who we kind of thought of him as. He took bad angles more frequently, he seemed to be good for one heartbreaking ill-timed penalty a week during long stretches of the season. He seemed to me to be hesitant to hit for most of the game and then he'd kind of cherry pick a moment to pop somebody, often not at the best time. Even if he does return to a higher level of play (and I think he will because some of that stink last year looked ot me like a guy sandbagging a bit) I think he was done here and he knew it.

It's like he didn't look "natural" anymore. He didn't look like he was playing the game in some kind of groove. He seemed to be overthinking what he was doing sometimes and at others he looked like he wasn't paying that much attention at all.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
thanks to Dunta for being a dumbass greedy bastard
thanks to McNair for being a cheapass greedy bastard

does this team even want to win? dunta doesn't deserve top money but to franchise him another year wouldn't have hurt. low risk but mcnair is too cheap to do that. he only pays top dollar for scrubs like Carr and Weaver and Greenwood. if Dunta was named David Carr he would have gotten a lifetime extension
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You're talking about paying an average at best CB 10+ million a year. If we franchised him again, we would be fools. He is in no way worth near that money. Use it to lock up Meco and OD.
 
HOU-TEX said:
Yeah, but he's not any better than what we had with Dunta. So we're basically going to be stuck using a high pick on a rookie CB, which to me, is kind of frustrating.
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I'd say Bodden would be a significant upgrade. Bodden allowed completions on 50% of targets v. 66% for Dunta. He gave up 2 TD's v. Dunta's 3 but also had 5 INTs compared to Dunta's 0. QB rating when Bodden targeted 59.3 v. 99.6 for Dunta. 4 penalties and 48 tackles v. 8 penalties and 52 tackles. If he hits the market we should at least talk to him.
 
infantrycak said:
I'd say Bodden would be a significant upgrade. Bodden allowed completions on 50% of targets v. 66% for Dunta. He gave up 2 TD's v. Dunta's 3 but also had 5 INTs compared to Dunta's 0. QB rating when Bodden targeted 59.3 v. 99.6 for Dunta. 4 penalties and 48 tackles v. 8 penalties and 52 tackles. If he hits the market we should at least talk to him.
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No way, we can find CBs better than Bodden and Dunta in the 3rd round this year
 
infantrycak said:
I'd say Bodden would be a significant upgrade. Bodden allowed completions on 50% of targets v. 66% for Dunta. He gave up 2 TD's v. Dunta's 3 but also had 5 INTs compared to Dunta's 0. QB rating when Bodden targeted 59.3 v. 99.6 for Dunta. 4 penalties and 48 tackles v. 8 penalties and 52 tackles. If he hits the market we should at least talk to him.
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Well, since you put it this way. lol

Honestly though, in a season skimpy in FA, will we spend what it'll take to get him here? I dunno, but I reckon there's a team or two out there that will over-spend for Bodden...and Dunta.
 
Bottom line to all this is, if Dunta Robinson wanted to play in Houston, TX, he would have signed the $23 million guaranteed money. He is getting what he wants so let him lay in the bed he made...

He will be the next Nate Clements, got paid and never heard from again....
 
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Jackie Chiles said:
Was watching some Sports Center this morning and they had a little blurb about him not being franchised. They temporarily had his name spelled Duanta which I got a kick out of. Guess I can't complain too much though, probably 20% of our own fan base spells his name that way or worse.
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BullNation4Life said:
Bottom line to all this is, if Daunta Robinson wanted to play in Houston, TX, he would have signed the $23 million guaranteed money. He is getting what he wants so let him lay in the bed he made...

He will be the next Nate Clements, got paid and never heard from again....
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:whistle:
 
nero THE zero said:
Should be high drama next season when we play the Titans led by ex-Longhron VY and ex-Texan CB Dunta Robinson.
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I bet Cortland Finnegan would absolutely love for Robinson to go to Tennessee, that way Andre Johnson can abuse Robinson instead of Finnegan and quite making Finnegan look like a hack....

AJ against Finnegan :slapfight: = (AJ:yahoo::texflag:) Finnegan:crutch:
 
Dunta may have been worth $23 million guaranteed to the Texans three or four years ago, but now we have options. I'm sure there's a team out there that has a need for him, are willing to pay that price, and will eventually suffer disappointment.

And Earl Thomas just moved to the top of my wish list.
 
I quit reading after I saw Richard Justice


houstonspartan said:
I agree.

Richard Justice just wrote that the Texans bungled the negotiaions. I don't agree with that at all. I think the Texans handled Dunta just right. Justice said the Texans basically should have gotten on their knees and begged Dunta to get to camp, at any costs.

Thing is, we're no longer a "begging" franchise. We don't have to overpay free agents and we dont' have to cross our fingers and hope that player X will want to play here. We're past that as a franchise.

If you want to play here, fine. If you don't, fine.
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