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Benson visiting Texans/signs with Bengals

You guys are way overacting about Benson's past problems. You cannot lump him in with Pacman, etc.

The guy was busted for drinking on Lake Travis at Devil's Cove. If that is what it takes then you have to lump me in with Pacman, Tank, etc. When it happened I found that odd because EVERYONE drinks in boats at Devil's Cove. If the cops wanted to they could pull a barge in there and hall 300 people off at a time. That cove is always full of people drinking in boats, that is what they go there to do and the cops just ride around checking people's safety equipment. When I heard about Benson my first thought was "what?, when did it become illegal to drink in Devils Cove?".

I was in a friend's boat in there a few years ago and he forgot to bring a trash bag so his floor was full of beer cans. Several of my friends had been drinking beer all day long. The cops pulled up to us, looked inside (obviously seeing his beer can carpet) and didn't even ask about anyone drinking. They just wanted to check his safety equipment. He checked out and they left. A couple of guys on that boat were pretty plowed.

To my understanding, technically they can bust boaters for DWI however they rarely enforce that on Lake Travis unless someone is just totally out of control. Right or wrong that is the way it is there.

The account I read about what went down with Benson was he wasn't out of control. They just decided to bust him for drinking.

As for DWI on anyone anywhere. How many on this board can HONESTLY say that they have not driven anywhere being over the legal limit? You can be over the legal limit long before you feel intoxicated. I know I have personally seen many fans drinking beer at their tailgate after the game before they drive home.

Believe me, I am not saying "it's no big deal", however to put that guy in a category with thugs is wrong.
 
GP said:
Exactly.

OH NO! Cedric Benson will destroy our team! LOL.

Gaining 700 yards in 10 games, on the BENGALS, is not too shabby.

Rockabilly has a point: If this doesn't get done in the next 24-48 hours...Smithiak will probably say "No deal," and we'll go RB in the draft. Which, crap, that's what we're going to do anyway regardless. No big surprise.

It just might afford us to draft a RB later and not in rounds 1-3.
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I'm fine with a Benson signing if:
1. his presence doesn't impact our off-season effort to strenghthen the position.

2. we get him cheap


Look, I think most of us that are concerned about his character are being misunderstood. I'd take a guy like Michael Irvin on my team any day but wouldn't want anything to do with T.O. Michael Irvin was a very good teammate and player regardless of his character flaws. T.O has never had any legal trouble to speak of but is not a good teammate and divides locker rooms. It isn't Ced Benson's arrests that bother me, it is his underwhelming performances and what his former teammates have to say about him.
 
Hookem Horns said:
You guys are way overacting about Benson's past problems. You cannot lump him in with Pacman, etc.

The guy was busted for drinking on Lake Travis at Devil's Cove. If that is what it takes then you have to lump me in with Pacman, Tank, etc. When it happened I found that odd because EVERYONE drinks in boats at Devil's Cove. If the cops wanted to they could pull a barge in there and hall 300 people off at a time. That cove is always full of people drinking in boats, that is what they go there to do and the cops just ride around checking people's safety equipment. When I heard about Benson my first thought was "what?, when did it become illegal to drink in Devils Cove?".

I was in a friend's boat in there a few years ago and he forgot to bring a trash bag so his floor was full of beer cans. Several of my friends had been drinking beer all day long. The cops pulled up to us, looked inside (obviously seeing his beer can carpet) and didn't even ask about anyone drinking. They just wanted to check his safety equipment. He checked out and they left. A couple of guys on that boat were pretty plowed.

To my understanding, technically they can bust boaters for DWI however they rarely enforce that on Lake Travis unless someone is just totally out of control. Right or wrong that is the way it is there.

The account I read about what went down with Benson was he wasn't out of control. They just decided to bust him for drinking.

As for DWI on anyone anywhere. How many on this board can HONESTLY say that they have not driven anywhere being over the legal limit? You can be over the legal limit long before you feel intoxicated. I know I have personally seen many fans drinking beer at their tailgate after the game before they drive home.

Believe me, I am not saying "it's no big deal", however to put that guy in a category with thugs is wrong.
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Those aren't even his main issues. Forget about the criminal stuff. Why are so many people all of a sudden so care free about a career long lazy player that loafs? The only time he has ran hard since coming into the NFL was last season at the very end where he knew he had to if he wanted any sort of decent contract at all.

If he were to come here and run as hard as he did in Cinci, then he could be a great pick up, but if he gets lazy then he could easily become wasted money.
 
Hookem Horns said:
You guys are way overacting about Benson's past problems. You cannot lump him in with Pacman, etc.

The guy was busted for drinking on Lake Travis at Devil's Cove. If that is what it takes then you have to lump me in with Pacman, Tank, etc. When it happened I found that odd because EVERYONE drinks in boats at Devil's Cove. If the cops wanted to they could pull a barge in there and hall 300 people off at a time. That cove is always full of people drinking in boats, that is what they go there to do and the cops just ride around checking people's safety equipment. When I heard about Benson my first thought was "what?, when did it become illegal to drink in Devils Cove?".

I was in a friend's boat in there a few years ago and he forgot to bring a trash bag so his floor was full of beer cans. Several of my friends had been drinking beer all day long. The cops pulled up to us, looked inside (obviously seeing his beer can carpet) and didn't even ask about anyone drinking. They just wanted to check his safety equipment. He checked out and they left. A couple of guys on that boat were pretty plowed.

To my understanding, technically they can bust boaters for DWI however they rarely enforce that on Lake Travis unless someone is just totally out of control. Right or wrong that is the way it is there.

The account I read about what went down with Benson was he wasn't out of control. They just decided to bust him for drinking.

As for DWI on anyone anywhere. How many on this board can HONESTLY say that they have not driven anywhere being over the legal limit? You can be over the legal limit long before you feel intoxicated. I know I have personally seen many fans drinking beer at their tailgate after the game before they drive home.

Believe me, I am not saying "it's no big deal", however to put that guy in a category with thugs is wrong.
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You win the debate sir. You win.
 
Cedric has made some mistakes, but he has been cleared of all criminal charges. His misbehavior has not been nearly as aggregious as that of many other sports stars. I know when I was in my late teens and early 20's I was not any better behaved than what he appears to have been. However, for those who are able to learn from their mistakes, you can very easily get past all of this. I did, many of you have, and so can Cedric.

This is not an unusual phase for a young man to go through. It is what I would call his later adolescent period. It is obviously more than a passing phase for men who continue this into their late 20's and early 30's. And if you are still acting like this into your late 30's or 40's, you might want to consider seeking professional help.

That being said, he has had enough learning opportunities. He needs to make sure he has this stuff straighten out, and that it stays straightened out permanently. If he were to come here and go through another round of this, I think he will be done. But I do not expect that to happen.

If we can get him at a reasonable cost, let's sign him.
 
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Why sign a player for a high profile position with so many question marks? Even if he signs a favorable contract, he will be taking reps from other players we can get in draft. I was told he avg 3.5 yds & that is what we got from other FA RBs signed last 2-3 years and they did not pan out. I am very concerned he is not what we need. We can get a solid runner in draft.
 
badboy said:
Why sign a player for a high profile position with so many question marks? Even if he signs a favorable contract, he will be taking reps from other players we can get in draft. I was told he avg 3.5 yds & that is what we got from other FA RBs signed last 2-3 years and they did not pan out. I am very concerned he is not what we need. We can get a solid runner in draft.
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The problem with rookie RBs is that all too often they fail to properly pick up blitzers, Slaton was quilt of this last year. If the Texans can sign a reasonable proced FA RB to back up Slaton, then can keep a rookie on the bench will they coach him on blitz pick-up.

I expect them sign an FA RB and to draft an RB.
 
Texans Pride said:
I guess many of you are happy with our little 8 and 8 team. Perhaps many of you would be more interested in the game of cricket or maybe even chess.

Come on! Can we give it a rest with all this boyscout mentality. The guy rushed for over 700 yards in 10 games and he's coming in to be a backup. He's not coming to teach your sons football team. He's not here to take your daughter to prom, and he a isn't coming to teach vacation bible school. He's coming to play football and he's been cleared of ALL legal issues.

Surely we have enough high character people on this team to help control, mentor, and isolate one ego from effecting the rest of the team.
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So signing Benson = winning? Hell it worked for Chicago and Cinci, it has to work for us right? I am fine one way or another but to say that if we do not sign him it means that the team will not win is total crap and looks more like a Tsip talking than a Texans Fan talking.

Like G'Ma said if we do not sign him we can use one of our 4ths on a runningback.

I have made no comments one way or another about his legal issues but the only reason he was cleared of the charges in Austin is because of the college he once played for.
 
Hookem Horns said:
As for DWI on anyone anywhere. How many on this board can HONESTLY say that they have not driven anywhere being over the legal limit? You can be over the legal limit long before you feel intoxicated. I know I have personally seen many fans drinking beer at their tailgate after the game before they drive home.

Believe me, I am not saying "it's no big deal", however to put that guy in a category with thugs is wrong.
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Okay, say you DID get busted in Devil's Cove for drinking. No big deal. I've done it too.

But if you are an NFL player, you JUST GOT BUSTED for an alcohol-related offense (whether it was just or not) and then you get busted AGAIN in a MONTH?

That's a little different than "who among us hasn't driven a little over the legal limit?"

That's STUPIDITY.

Now, sure - he might not be that stupid or immature anymore - but you can't take the short time between offenses out of the equation.

That's a VERY important part of all this for me. If they had been spaced out by a year or two, I'd still think that was shitty of him - but to get popped twice in that short amount of time - especially when you have a high profile?

Stupid. That should be part of the equation in signing him. It wasn't even a year ago, so for everyone to just nod their heads and assume everything is totally turned around is ridiculous.

Still - if they like what they heard from him and they don't pay ONE PENNY too much, I'm fine with it.
 
Specnatz said:
So signing Benson = winning? Hell it worked for Chicago and Cinci, it has to work for us right? I am fine one way or another but to say that if we do not sign him it means that the team will not win is total crap and looks more like a Tsip talking than a Texans Fan talking.

Like G'Ma said if we do not sign him we can use one of our 4ths on a runningback.

I have made no comments one way or another about his legal issues but the only reason he was cleared of the charges in Austin is because of the college he once played for.
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It did not work for Chicago one bit. That is completely false. He was a bust in Chicago and his team hated him. He played horribly over there and anyone who watched those games while he was there couldn't argue that. It was Thomas Jones that carried the load over there. Not Benson.

You're right he played well for Cinci when it was his last chance and he was playing for a contract.

As long as we don't invest to much in him for to long then I'm all for it, but I won't be surprised if it doesn't work out that well knowing how lazy he is and his history of dogging it when he is getting paid.
 
Texecutioner said:
It did not work for Chicago one bit. That is completely false. He was a bust in Chicago and his team hated him. He played horribly over there and anyone who watched those games while he was there couldn't argue that. It was Thomas Jones that carried the load over there. Not Benson.

You're right he played well for Cinci when it was his last chance and he was playing for a contract.

As long as we don't invest to much in him for to long then I'm all for it, but I won't be surprised if it doesn't work out that well knowing how lazy he is and his history of dogging it when he is getting paid.
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I think you missed the point of Specnatz's post.
 
I will put the sarcasm smiley there next time because the first part of my post was dripping with it. :sarcasm:
 
I agree with Mclain. I think he is going back with Cincy. Rockabilly hit the nail on the head: We usually wrap things up before they leave town. He must have wanted too much green.
 
I guess we better hope that AJ never gets a citation or violation for anything because if he does, he should be kicked off the team right?
 
It's his character as a football player that is most concerning to me. Ya, the dope smoking and excessive partying play into it because you don't know if you can rely on a guy like, but the most concerning thing is his on-field character and his locker room character. His history is less than steller in that area.
 
Specnatz said:
So signing Benson = winning? Hell it worked for Chicago and Cinci, it has to work for us right? I am fine one way or another but to say that if we do not sign him it means that the team will not win is total crap and looks more like a Tsip talking than a Texans Fan talking.

Like G'Ma said if we do not sign him we can use one of our 4ths on a runningback.

I have made no comments one way or another about his legal issues but the only reason he was cleared of the charges in Austin is because of the college he once played for.
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No, signing one single player rarely, if ever, single-handedly determines a season for a team. However it is these types of decisions, collectively, which determines a team's future. This is only one piece, out of several, that will make an impact on this teams future.

And don't worry, I'm a fan, you can sleep well at night rather than staying up thinking about my loyalty :)
 
Texecutioner said:
It's not about really the high profile stuff, but when it comes to a guy that is lazy and doesn't work hard at all and proves it time and time again that is a HUGE PROBLEM when you invest a lot of money in them. The arrest stuff is the minor issue. When Benson was being paid a lot of money he wouldn't work hard or show up on Sunday. Last year though when his back was against the wall and barely even in the league and playing for a contract he was running harder than I've ever seen him run. You pay him a good chunk of cash, you face the risk of him dogging it again.

I find it funny though how some posters in here are afraid of top players when it comes to certain free agents or guys that could be acquired in a trade and where they are one of the best at their position where we have huge needs, but yet are dying for Benson to come here who isn't even close to being a top RB in the league and has always had a reputation for being lazy.
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I think you can go from being a top RB to a scrub in a short time. And I think you can go from being a no-name, or an under-achiever, to a decent or even good RB in a short time. It's all about timing, finding the right team, and injuries.

LT is probably done, and he was just in his prime and looked like nothing could stop him. That's it, See ya later. He'll land on some other team and dwindle away. And he'll be a commentator for some network, and do a great job of being "The pro who used to be there, and now he's our voice inside the huddle...blah blah blah"

Shaun Alexander is done. Where's Jamal Lewis? He was the cat's pajamas in Baltimore, went to Cleveland and didn't do well, then had a decent recovery in Cleveland, and is now off track again.

My point is that Cedric screwed up in Chicago. he got offended at Thomas Jones and how much more Jones was liked/favored, and it caused him to sour on the whole NFL experience. He chose to get a bad attitude, and it affected his play. He rebounded in Cincy. Nobody can deny that.

I am no UT fan boy (Red Raiders all the way). But the smearing of this guy is laughable.

I personally like the idea of Steve coming out of the game and here comes Cedric Benson through the hole that the ZBS created. In our game against Cincy, I noticed that if someone didn't get at Cedric's knees or lower at the line of scrimmage, the guy was reeling off 10-yarders before being tackled. He's a different runner from Slaton.

I like how they contrast to one another. Moats just looks and runs like Steve, IMO. You want that true "Change of pace" runner because it makes the defense shift focus from one guy to another all game long...and they better not forget how to tackle against each of them.

I will admit that I am concerned about his focus and past laziness as you described. Will he revert back to that if he comes to Texas and plays so near to Austin? Will we see a guy pulling a Vince Young and hanging out in Austin as if he's never graduated? That is a very legitimate concern.

But I think he proved in Cincy that he still wants to play, and that he can still play. Chicago was just the wrong place to be, and he admits he didn't have his head on his shoulders, too.
 
[Comment From Sammy]
When will we release Chris Brown? Do we have to wait until he passes a physical? Or do you think the team seriously considers him a viable option this year? If so, that's disappointing given his injury history and lack of special teams play

12:00 John McClain: No, I don't think the team considers him a viable option. He's hurt all the time.
 
Hmmmmm....???

1. Chris Wells, Ohio State (Junior)
2. Knowshon Moreno, Georgia (3rd year sophomore)
3. LeSean McCoy, Pitt (3rd year sophomore)
4. James Davis, Clemson
5. Javon Ringer, Michigan State
6. C.J. Spiller, Clemson (Junior)
7. Mike Goodson, Texas A&M (Junior)
8. Marlon Lucky, Nebraska
9. DeMarco Murray, Oklahoma (3rd year sophomore)
10. Arian Foster, Tennessee
11. Keegan Herring, Arizona State
12. P.J. Hill, Wisconsin (Junior)
13. Ben Tate, Auburn (Junior)
14. Damion Fletcher, Southern Miss (Junior)
15. Mikell Simpson, Virginia (Junior)
16. Tyrell Sutton, Northwestern
17. Ian Johnson, Boise State
18. Keiland Williams, LSU (Junior)
19. Maurice Wells, Ohio State
20. Jorvorskie Lane, Texas A&M (FB)
21. Javarris James, Miami (Junior)
22. Andre Brown, NC State
23. Anthony Allen, Louisville (Junior)
24. Kory Sheets, Purdue
25. Rodney Ferguson, New Mexico
 
GP said:
I think you can go from being a top RB to a scrub in a short time. And I think you can go from being a no-name, or an under-achiever, to a decent or even good RB in a short time. It's all about timing, finding the right team, and injuries.

LT is probably done, and he was just in his prime and looked like nothing could stop him. That's it, See ya later. He'll land on some other team and dwindle away. And he'll be a commentator for some network, and do a great job of being "The pro who used to be there, and now he's our voice inside the huddle...blah blah blah"

Shaun Alexander is done. Where's Jamal Lewis? He was the cat's pajamas in Baltimore, went to Cleveland and didn't do well, then had a decent recovery in Cleveland, and is now off track again.

My point is that Cedric screwed up in Chicago. he got offended at Thomas Jones and how much more Jones was liked/favored, and it caused him to sour on the whole NFL experience. He chose to get a bad attitude, and it affected his play. He rebounded in Cincy. Nobody can deny that.

I am no UT fan boy (Red Raiders all the way). But the smearing of this guy is laughable.

I personally like the idea of Steve coming out of the game and here comes Cedric Benson through the hole that the ZBS created. In our game against Cincy, I noticed that if someone didn't get at Cedric's knees or lower at the line of scrimmage, the guy was reeling off 10-yarders before being tackled. He's a different runner from Slaton.

I like how they contrast to one another. Moats just looks and runs like Steve, IMO. You want that true "Change of pace" runner because it makes the defense shift focus from one guy to another all game long...and they better not forget how to tackle against each of them.

I will admit that I am concerned about his focus and past laziness as you described. Will he revert back to that if he comes to Texas and plays so near to Austin? Will we see a guy pulling a Vince Young and hanging out in Austin as if he's never graduated? That is a very legitimate concern.

But I think he proved in Cincy that he still wants to play, and that he can still play. Chicago was just the wrong place to be, and he admits he didn't have his head on his shoulders, too.
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Again GP, if we could get him for the right deal, then I'm fine with it. I agree with you completely that he is a great compliment to Slaton. I've just known a few guys that know Benson personally and have heard a lot of stories about how lazy he can be and how his focus can shift a lot. It did at Texas all the time, but he was so talented that he could still have huge games in college. His problem was that he thought he could still continue that in the NFL and he still didn't get it even after his first season, or the second season, and then when everyone thought he would in his 3rd season he still didn't get it. He didn't get it until he was out of the league and Cinci took a shot at him and he was playing for a contract.

If it isn't to much or to long of an investment then I'll be fine with it. Just nothing long term where if it doesn't work out we're stuck with him or we'll have to pay a big fee to release him.
 
MojoMan said:
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When will we release Chris Brown? Do we have to wait until he passes a physical? Or do you think the team seriously considers him a viable option this year? If so, that's disappointing given his injury history and lack of special teams play

12:00 John McClain: No, I don't think the team considers him a viable option. He's hurt all the time.
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See? Now THAT is the sort of thing that I was SCREAMING AND FUMING about last season. But GP, he's not costing us much...if he works he works, and if not then we cut him...it's no big deal.

That sort of signing was foolish. And then we didn't even give Cedric a chance to try out or visit us? LOL. Alrighty.....

Maybe Smithiak had to see how Cedric did on another team, let the other team be the guinea pig in the Benson experiment. But I know that I'd take 100 yards from Cedric and 100 yards from Slaton every dadgum game.

OK, if the money is not stupid crazy. AND if the guy shows some humility and some self control throughout the negotiations, what's so bad about giving him a shot when we took on a clearly washed up Chris Brown and tried to prop him up as a viable option at RB?

I guess I just don't get it. Benson appears to have grown (even if it's a little) and he didn't stink it up in Cincy (a pathetically weak team, correct?).

I'm just ready to be done one way or the other, I guess.
 
Texecutioner said:
Again GP, if we could get him for the right deal, then I'm fine with it. I agree with you completely that he is a great compliment to Slaton. I've just known a few guys that know Benson personally and have heard a lot of stories about how lazy he can be and how his focus can shift a lot. It did at Texas all the time, but he was so talented that he could still have huge games in college. His problem was that he thought he could still continue that in the NFL and he still didn't get it even after his first season, or the second season, and then when everyone thought he would in his 3rd season he still didn't get it. He didn't get it until he was out of the league and Cinci took a shot at him and he was playing for a contract.

If it isn't to much or to long of an investment then I'll be fine with it. Just nothing long term where if it doesn't work out we're stuck with him or we'll have to pay a big fee to release him.
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And I agree. Heck, make it a one-year deal with an option to extend or something, and kick in bonuses if he plays x-amount of games and has no disciplinary issues, etc., to escalate the contract.

He's coming to an infinitely better team than Cincy. If he wants to be a part of that and showcase his stuff on a GOOD team (ours) then he needs to wise up and see the value of a contract that might not be fully guaranteed.
 
I'm really getting a kick how some people are smearing the guy.

I think Chicago was a case of wrong place wrong time. FO and Lovie might've wanted Ced because at the time he probably was BPA at a spot that maybe they felt could be more explosive. From the sounds of it the team resented him for leap frogging Jones.

I think the consensus is sign him for the right deal and if it pans out great. Possible low to medium risk and high reward.
 
I doubt Benson signs with us, but if he did I'd have no problem with it at all...
 
GP said:
And I agree. Heck, make it a one-year deal with an option to extend or something, and kick in bonuses if he plays x-amount of games and has no disciplinary issues, etc., to escalate the contract.

He's coming to an infinitely better team than Cincy. If he wants to be a part of that and showcase his stuff on a GOOD team (ours) then he needs to wise up and see the value of a contract that might not be fully guaranteed.
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Exactly. Then we could keep him motivated and put ourselves in a position where he has to play hard every week. The problem is he probably wants a long term deal and wouldn't sign a contract like that.
 
DiehardChris said:
Okay, say you DID get busted in Devil's Cove for drinking. No big deal. I've done it too.

But if you are an NFL player, you JUST GOT BUSTED for an alcohol-related offense (whether it was just or not) and then you get busted AGAIN in a MONTH?

That's a little different than "who among us hasn't driven a little over the legal limit?"

That's STUPIDITY.

Now, sure - he might not be that stupid or immature anymore - but you can't take the short time between offenses out of the equation.

That's a VERY important part of all this for me. If they had been spaced out by a year or two, I'd still think that was shitty of him - but to get popped twice in that short amount of time - especially when you have a high profile?

Stupid. That should be part of the equation in signing him. It wasn't even a year ago, so for everyone to just nod their heads and assume everything is totally turned around is ridiculous.

Still - if they like what they heard from him and they don't pay ONE PENNY too much, I'm fine with it.
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I know that the following will sound like being a bit of an apologist, but here goes:

1. Given the public information released about the boat incident, one might be able to argue that it was Benson who was wronged in the way he got arrested. He may have been busted for B(WithLotsOfWhiteWomen)WB. It is not surprising those charges were dropped.

2. Once you have been arrested for an alcohol-related offense, you are more likely to get arrested for another alcohol related offense. The police officers will look up your license. The field sobriety tests that you do are so subjective that they can just up and decide that you failed for whatever reasons they want you to.

I do not like our society (and the NFL) that decides that just arrests are enough to make someone a turd. Both Fred Weary and Chester Pitts got turd points over at PFT for being arrested, and of course, nobody made as big a deal when the questionable arrests were dropped.

That Benson has acknowledge his issues is A Good Thing.
 
Texecutioner said:
Exactly. Then we could keep him motivated and put ourselves in a position where he has to play hard every week. The problem is he probably wants a long term deal and wouldn't sign a contract like that.
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That's where I hope the Texans can convince him that his career was in the toilet, it made it back to the rim of the toilet, and he can sign with us ON OUR TERMS and realize that his career can jump fully off the toilet. Otherwise, have fun playing on terrible teams and finish out your career like Jamal Lewis is.
 
Texans_Chick said:
I know that the following will sound like being a bit of an apologist, but here goes:

1. Given the public information released about the boat incident, one might be able to argue that it was Benson who was wronged in the way he got arrested. He may have been busted for B(WithLotsOfWhiteWomen)WB. It is not surprising those charges were dropped.

2. Once you have been arrested for an alcohol-related offense, you are more likely to get arrested for another alcohol related offense. The police officers will look up your license. The field sobriety tests that you do are so subjective that they can just up and decide that you failed for whatever reasons they want you to.

I do not like our society (and the NFL) that decides that just arrests are enough to make someone a turd. Both Fred Weary and Chester Pitts got turd points over at PFT for being arrested, and of course, nobody made as big a deal when the questionable arrests were dropped.

That Benson has acknowledge his issues is A Good Thing.
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I get that he might be a "target" after the first arrest - but that doesn't make any difference to me. It was a MONTH later! You have millions - call a cab. Have a friend drive you, whatever. Honestly - the boat thing doesn't bother me at all. It's not like he was speeding around the lake looking to run people down. Like someone said before - that's what happens there. You go out, have some beers, and enjoy the sun. That's living in Austin. I've done it, and I'll do it again.

But anyway - you have to be more aware after it happens the first time. Especially with all you have at stake being a millionaire NFLer.

Sure, he's saying all the right things - but who wouldn't?

Still, for the right price - bring him in. I'm not at all married to this character policy the Texans have... never have been. This guy isn't Pacman.
 
Texans_Chick said:
2. Once you have been arrested for an alcohol-related offense, you are more likely to get arrested for another alcohol related offense. The police officers will look up your license. The field sobriety tests that you do are so subjective that they can just up and decide that you failed for whatever reasons they want you to.
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I'm not agreeing with you because I want Benson, I'm just agreeing with you because I got in a heap of trouble for "failing" wink wink wink freaking WINK a field sobriety test. Mostly due to the cop being an ass, partly mine for being a prick when I know I shouldn't have.
I do not like our society (and the NFL) that decides that just arrests are enough to make someone a turd. Both Fred Weary and Chester Pitts got turd points over at PFT for being arrested, and of course, nobody made as big a deal when the questionable arrests were dropped.

That Benson has acknowledge his issues is A Good Thing.
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More good points that still don't make me want Cedric Benson.
 
DiehardChris said:
I get that he might be a "target" after the first arrest - but that doesn't make any difference to me. It was a MONTH later! You have millions - call a cab. Have a friend drive you, whatever. Honestly - the boat thing doesn't bother me at all. It's not like he was speeding around the lake looking to run people down. Like someone said before - that's what happens there. You go out, have some beers, and enjoy the sun. That's living in Austin. I've done it, and I'll do it again.

But anyway - you have to be more aware after it happens the first time. Especially with all you have at stake being a millionaire NFLer.

Sure, he's saying all the right things - but who wouldn't?

Still, for the right price - bring him in. I'm not at all married to this character policy the Texans have... never have been. This guy isn't Pacman.
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I just mention it because it happens all the time. Not just to young NFLers, but to people in all walks of life. My husband has one client who doesn't drink and has a medical condition that makes him look a little weird but doesn't effect his driving. That client has been arrested for suspicion of DWI four times.
 
Texans_Chick said:
I know that the following will sound like being a bit of an apologist, but here goes:

1. Given the public information released about the boat incident, one might be able to argue that it was Benson who was wronged in the way he got arrested. He may have been busted for B(WithLotsOfWhiteWomen)WB. It is not surprising those charges were dropped.

2. Once you have been arrested for an alcohol-related offense, you are more likely to get arrested for another alcohol related offense. The police officers will look up your license. The field sobriety tests that you do are so subjective that they can just up and decide that you failed for whatever reasons they want you to.

I do not like our society (and the NFL) that decides that just arrests are enough to make someone a turd. Both Fred Weary and Chester Pitts got turd points over at PFT for being arrested, and of course, nobody made as big a deal when the questionable arrests were dropped.

That Benson has acknowledge his issues is A Good Thing.
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Excellent post. This thread is in need of a Biblical reference:

"Let he among you who is without sin cast the first stone."

For Pete's sake, it's not like Ced robbed a liquor store or beat up his girlfriend. It's not like he was even convicted of anything. Sign the guy and let's see how he does. Geez.
 
Does it really need to be said that NOT everyone who is in favor of Benson here is a UT homer? I guess I'll point out that such claims are nothing more than argumentum ad hominem and leave it at that.

I think Benson's potential value to the team is not as a hundred yard per game rusher or as a frequent game breaker. That would be nice, but that is what Slaton is for. Benson needs to do the things Slaton can't. First he needs to be able to convert crucial 3rd/4th and short opportunities. Those are the game changers the team would need from him. Second he would need to play adequately when Slaton is resting. Pretty simple.

Yards per carry stats don't tell the story that needs evaluated to see if he can contribute. The coaches need to decide if he can get the tough yards and decide what that is worth. Cedric has to decide if he can be a role player and be happy with the price.

I think the fans are worrying about this one much more than the coaches are. I doubt the players are sweating his influence in the least either, other than the running backs down the depth charts.
 
Texans_Chick said:
I know that the following will sound like being a bit of an apologist, but here goes:

1. Given the public information released about the boat incident, one might be able to argue that it was Benson who was wronged in the way he got arrested. He may have been busted for B(WithLotsOfWhiteWomen)WB. It is not surprising those charges were dropped.

2. Once you have been arrested for an alcohol-related offense, you are more likely to get arrested for another alcohol related offense. The police officers will look up your license. The field sobriety tests that you do are so subjective that they can just up and decide that you failed for whatever reasons they want you to.

I do not like our society (and the NFL) that decides that just arrests are enough to make someone a turd. Both Fred Weary and Chester Pitts got turd points over at PFT for being arrested, and of course, nobody made as big a deal when the questionable arrests were dropped.

That Benson has acknowledge his issues is A Good Thing.
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I'm remaining neutral on this potential signing. That said, wasn't there a picture floating around last year with Ced on a boat twisting one up? It was around the time of the arrest and I think his Momma was even on board. :thinking:
 
HOU-TEX said:
I'm remaining neutral on this potential signing. That said, wasn't there a picture floating around last year with Ced on a boat twisting one up? It was around the time of the arrest and I think his Momma was even on board. :thinking:
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He was holding a card for his mother:

bensonmothersday.jpg





Okay, actual pic:

cedricbensonparty.jpg


Tin foil on your lap and a package of zig-zags isn't exactly incriminating.
 
Texan_Bill said:
He was holding a card for his mother:

bensonmothersday.jpg





Okay, actual pic:

cedricbensonparty.jpg


Tin foil on your lap and a package of zig-zags isn't exactly incriminating.
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Oopsie!

What a way to celebrate Mother's Day: On a boat, with a doobie, and a lot of ladies in bikinis.

"Happy Mother's Day."

LOL.

(sigh)
 
I think you guys are overreacting.

Who here has never celebrated Mother's Day with you mother on Lake Travis (at Devil's Cove) smoking a joint with a bunch of girls in bikinis?

C'mon.
 
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