xtruroyaltyx said:
Carr has really never had "it" to lose...and you are right that baseball and football is different...every sport is different from the next as far as how it's played...but as far as players having a mental blockage of some sort, IMO, that is what it is across the board...Shooting jumpshots, Pitching a slider, and yes even throwing 40 yard pass, all have the same things in common...All deserve a certain degree of technique, all require some sort of mental focus.....Now having said that, in a game time situation a QB,Pitcher, or a shooting gaurd can feel nerves when rattled or in a clutch situation...I understand what you say about players being able to perform one day and not the next...But D.Carr has never, on this level, been an all world type of athlete...
True, he hasn't. Wow, what I would give for an "all-world" type of athlete like Trent Dilfer. Look, the quality "it" is used to describe a set of mental and physical conditions that are either misunderstood, not understood at all, or "it" is used because someone is too lazy to write the dissertation that would be needed to describe this state of being. Same can be said of the phrases, "can't teach speed", and "football speed". All of the above can be quantified, or elaborated upon as the case may be, but most don't see the need to do so because production eliminates the need for such questions as does lack of production.
It is a shame because we see such strong correlation bordering on the causal between "all world" performance and surrounding talent/coaching/age. See: McNabb, Culpepper, Brett Favre and even Kerry Collins just off the top of my head. Collins had a Head coach we obviously don't like but a dominant offensive line and running game, wasn't asked to do a whole lot, and he was good, on average teams he is awful. So, is he good or not? Like most professional athletes he can be good enough to hold up his end given the right team around him, and provided that he is asked to do what he does well, and not what he doesn't do well.
There have been only two QB's in my football viewing lifetime that were great even as their team wasn't. Elway (and only after a few years) and Marino. Both always had teams that had at least something, some one thing, that they could hang their hat on as not being awful besides the QB position, and Marino never wen't to the promised land, while Elway never got there until he had a Great running game to back him up. By promised land, I mean getting the damn Trophy. There have been other QB's that were/are great with a capital "g", but not on bad teams (Staubach, Stabler [in his own weird way], Montana, Kelly [sometimes], Aikman, Steve Young, Brady, Manning, etc...).
What, exactly, do you wan't/expect out of Carr?
I am not apologizing for his performance but I am stating emphatically that the kid hasn't been given a chance.
Sucky o'line + sucky recievers (yes, incl. Andre because he can't be an entire recieving corps.) + sucky o-line + average rushing game + no TE at all + horrible, over-simple, ever-changing scheme = poor QB play.
Football is a team game, period. If you expect him to be the next unstoppable force of nature, I suggest you lower your expectations a little into the realm of reality. We
hope to get great players that can lift a team onto their shoulders and will them to win but they are so very rare, but we
need/
must get players that can hold up their end commensurate with the talent surrounding them. Carr has, actually, done that. More than that really given the ridiculous level of talent on "O" surrounding him and his coaching. Would you trade Bradford for Carr, how about gaffney, how about Victor Riley or Todd Wade or Steve "no pocket" McKinney? If so, then I am out of this discussion as there is no point in furthering it.
I don't know if it was wise to give him an extension with all of that money, but neither do you. At this time I take the position that I must bow to the greater knowledge of professional talent scouts.
He hasn't been given a chance. Until he has, we won't know. I suspect we will have a better idea of what he is after this season and a very conclusive answer after next.
Look, the league wanted us to suck for a while. We weren't given the sweetheart deals that Jacksonville and carolina were given. We weren't given the same cap exemptions and plethera of draft picks that those teams were given, add to that that the 2002 draft was one of the most talent poor drafts in recent memory... We were
designed by the NFL owners and league management to stink it up during our formative years, yet people seem to expect stellar QB play during this time anyway? I just don't get it.
...that was funny....LOL!
.....But if you want to argue about Carr, and his lack of production then we can do...
