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You're on the clock as Texans GM

As Texans GM/HC what do you do with 1.1 in 2023

  • Draft QB, Bryce Young as franchise QB?

    Votes: 5 13.9%

  • Draft QB Bryce Young with intent of sitting him and trading him 2024 for multiple future draft pick?

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Draft Edge Rusher, Will Anderson?

    Votes: 4 11.1%

  • Draft Dl, Jalen Carter?

    Votes: 2 5.6%

  • Trade back for a min. of 2 1st RD draft picks and (2) day two picks, present of future?

    Votes: 21 58.3%

  • Other (explain)

    Votes: 4 11.1%
  • Total voters
    36
  • Poll closed .
Since this is just a fantasy draft, the Detroit Lions end up at 1/2 and the Texans and Lions swap selections. The Texans get the Lions' two second round picks. Detroit selects C.J. Stroud and Houston selects Bryce Young.
 
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OptimisticTexan said:
I’d trade down and hopefully wind up with (3) RD1 picks.

LT- Paris Johnson, Jr (Ohio State)
DE- Tyree Wilson (Texas Tech)
Depending on who’s available:
OT- Peter Skoronski (Northwestern) or WR- Quentin Johnston (TCU)
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Not very good use of 3 1st round picks imo
 
Seattle will not tag Smith in order to not offend him which is a mistake as I swoop in and sign Geno (32) to 5 year contract avg $35 million with first two GTD and year 3 & 4 partially GTD with incentives. Year 5 non- GTD. I caution Geno to pay all debts to co-workers: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...ves-altered-story-jets-2015-locker-room-fight

*draft order end of season prior to trades: 1 Texans 2 Bears 3 Seattle 4 Eagles 5 Lions 6 Panthers

1.1 Seattle stunned by Smith & with no QB after tasting Ws quibble but surrender 3 + 20 +34 +53 for what they perceive as best QB Young.

1.2 Bears Jalen Carter

1.3 Lions seeing their guy Stroud now in range & knowing what Seattle gave surrender 5 + 15 +45 +61

1.4 Eagles faint then make it to podium in time to scream Anderson! Then promptly faint again.

1.5 Panthers most desperate team for QB believe that I am going to select Will Levis and sit him behind Geno Smith as a cheap insurance policy, grit teeth and pay me 6 + 39 + 58 for Levis.

Texans have 6 + 13 [Browns] +15 +32 ours +34 +39 +45 +53 +58 +61 +64 ours +77 ours +100 ours and our regular remaining picks.

QBs will cause a trade frenzy like Donna Summer needing some Hot Stuff.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I’d trade down and hopefully wind up with (3) RD1 picks.

LT- Paris Johnson, Jr (Ohio State)
DE- Tyree Wilson (Texas Tech)
Depending on who’s available:
OT- Peter Skoronski (Northwestern) or WR- Quentin Johnston (TCU)
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Move Green to RG and play the best of Johnson or Skoronski at LG with the other backing up? Gives you strong Oline with a center in round 2.
 
badboy said:
Move Green to RG and play the best of Johnson or Skoronski at LG with the other backing up? Gives you strong Oline with a center in round 2.
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I like C’s, John Michael-Schmitz or Ricky Stromberg.

As for another G….Texans could get a solid answer a little later in Cody Mauch of North Dakota State.

This group could start in some spots or backup in 2023, but come 2024 the OL could look like this:

LT: Johnson
LG: Mauch
OC: Michael-Schmitz
RG: Green
RT: Skoronski
 
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Trading back has it's merits, but who is available with the first pick worth trading up for?
Texans need a stud pass rusher so you gotta take Anderson. They need two to be effective so perhaps a second one can be found in FA or later in the draft.
Decent DL can be found later in the draft so I hold off on Carter. We found DJ Reader in the 5th iirc.
Our 2nd pick - if Levis is there, take him. If not, there are a lot of other options like TE Michael Mayer, WR Queintin Johnson or OL Peter Skoronski so the second is a mighty valuable pick for Texans.
 
Texansphan said:
Trading back has it's merits, but who is available with the first pick worth trading up for?
Texans need a stud pass rusher so you gotta take Anderson. They need two to be effective so perhaps a second one can be found in FA or later in the draft.
Decent DL can be found later in the draft so I hold off on Carter. We found DJ Reader in the 5th iirc.
Our 2nd pick - if Levis is there, take him. If not, there are a lot of other options like TE Michael Mayer, WR Queintin Johnson or OL Peter Skoronski so the second is a mighty valuable pick for Texans.
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For discussion, can't same be said about pass rushers? Tuipulotu has lead in sacks. Anudike-uzomah and Foskey are 2nd rounders.
 
Texansphan said:
Trading back has it's merits, but who is available with the first pick worth trading up for?
Texans need a stud pass rusher so you gotta take Anderson. They need two to be effective so perhaps a second one can be found in FA or later in the draft.
Decent DL can be found later in the draft so I hold off on Carter. We found DJ Reader in the 5th iirc.
Our 2nd pick - if Levis is there, take him. If not, there are a lot of other options like TE Michael Mayer, WR Queintin Johnson or OL Peter Skoronski so the second is a mighty valuable pick for Texans.
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The Texans defense would certainly improve with a stud pass rusher, but I disagree it is a priority need, in light of all the other holes which need addressing. One of the Texans' few defensive bright spots is our pass rush, which ranks 18th in sacks, with 28.

The Lions and Bears defenses are both at the bottom for sacks, and neither have a priority at QB, so I'd like to see a trade down and get those extra picks.
 
My first option would be to trade 1.1 provided the Texans would get more than 3000 in trade value draft points. Preferably a 2023 1st RD Top 10 along with future 1st RD(s) picks. Because the Texans need a QB they should draft one every year until they find one. That is why I wanted to draft Matt Corral last year and this year I would be on board with drafting another QB in 2023.

If there are no takers for a trade back I would draft Bryce Young and sit him for a year. If you can draft Caleb Williams in 2024 then you trade Young for 3000 plus trade value draft points. If the Texans can't draft Williams then Young is their franchise QB.
 
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Texian said:
If there are no takers for a trade back I would draft Bryce Young and sit him for a year. If you can draft Caleb Williams in 2024 then you trade Young for 3000 plus trade value draft points. If the Texans can't draft Williams then Young is their franchise QB
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If you draft Young and sit him for a year, why would he value 1.1 or higher to another team that wouldn't trade up for him when they could have him for 5 years?
 
Texansphan said:
Trading back has it's merits, but who is available with the first pick worth trading up for?
Texans need a stud pass rusher so you gotta take Anderson. They need two to be effective so perhaps a second one can be found in FA or later in the draft.
Decent DL can be found later in the draft so I hold off on Carter. We found DJ Reader in the 5th iirc.
Our 2nd pick - if Levis is there, take him. If not, there are a lot of other options like TE Michael Mayer, WR Queintin Johnson or OL Peter Skoronski so the second is a mighty valuable pick for Texans.
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Trade up to 1.1 :

Anderson
Young
Stroud
Carter
Murphy

It is not what we think but what other teams think of these players.
 
Number19 said:
The Texans defense would certainly improve with a stud pass rusher, but I disagree it is a priority need, in light of all the other holes which need addressing. One of the Texans' few defensive bright spots is our pass rush, which ranks 18th in sacks, with 28.

The Lions and Bears defenses are both at the bottom for sacks, and neither have a priority at QB, so I'd like to see a trade down and get those extra picks.
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Side note.. i read many Detroit fans want Goff gone and there's savings of $29 million.
 
Texian said:
My first option would be to trade 1.1 provided the Texans would get more than 3000 in trade value draft points. Preferably a 2023 1st RD Top 10 along with future 1st RD(s) picks. Because the Texans need a QB they should draft one every year until they find one. That is why I wanted to draft Matt Corral last year and this year I would be on board with drafting another QB in 2023.

If there are no takers for a trade back I would draft Bryce Young and sit him for a year. If you can draft Caleb Williams in 2024 then you trade Young for 3000 plus trade value draft points. If the Texans can't draft Williams then Young is their franchise QB.
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I think the draft trade value charts will not be looked at as much at the top this year. I am hoping that Detroit and Seattle Have had a taste of winning that pushes them into QB frenzy. Add Panthers who missed on DW and that stirs trades.
 
Surprised that no one made any comments about my suggesting signing Geno Smith if not franchised.
 
If they decide Young's the pick, then I hope Caserio goes all offense with the 1st 4-5 picks. Getting young playmakers like Johnston/Washington and then drafting a Center and an OG in rds 3-4. Give Young every tool he needs to succeed. Then work on the defense in FA and the 2024 draft.
 
badboy said:
Side note.. i read many Detroit fans want Goff gone and there's savings of $29 million.
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Interesting.

The Lions are in the hunt for a wildcard slot with a favorable remaining schedule. They are #6 in scoring. And they are #27 in defensive sacks. Their defense is ranked #18. So of course it is reasonable that QB is their highest priority.

They don't have an immediate need for additional cap space. I believe they'll have about $27M to work with in 2023 and there's two other players where they can gain about an additional $18M if needed. Their cap situation is also much improved in 2024.

So of course it's reasonable to address offense and not defense. If it's not broke, tear it apart anyway.

Anyways. We should know before the draft how they will play it with Goff.
 
Number19 said:
Interesting.

The Lions are in the hunt for a wildcard slot with a favorable remaining schedule. They are #6 in scoring. And they are #27 in defensive sacks. Their defense is ranked #18. So of course it is reasonable that QB is their highest priority.

They don't have an immediate need for additional cap space. I believe they'll have about $27M to work with in 2023 and there's two other players where they can gain about an additional $18M if needed. Their cap situation is also much improved in 2024.

So of course it's reasonable to address offense and not defense. If it's not broke, tear it apart anyway.

Anyways. We should know before the draft how they will play it with Goff.
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Goff reminds me of Derek Carr, they keep getting decent stats but Not doing enough to get to the playoffs. Cap until now and QBs in draft so ify has kept them in twilight zone. Both made advangeous trade resulting in very high pick with another later round one plus two in round two. If car stereo can pry Those pics from both teams I will switch my loyalty to him.

Then there is Carolina who is falling a bit which could make a third trade down with them interesting.
 
badboy said:
Goff reminds me of Derek Carr, they keep getting decent stats but Not doing enough to get to the playoffs. Cap until now and QBs in draft so ify has kept them in twilight zone. Both made advangeous trade resulting in very high pick with another later round one plus two in round two. If car stereo can pry Those pics from both teams I will switch my loyalty to him.

Then there is Carolina who is falling a bit which could make a third trade down with them interesting.
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The Texans, if I'm not forgetting, have never been really lucky with making that humongous draft day trade that just blows us away. The top of this '23 draft seems to be breaking in the Texans' favor. Maybe '23 just may be the one.
 
badboy said:
Goff reminds me of Derek Carr, they keep getting decent stats but Not doing enough to get to the playoffs. Cap until now and QBs in draft so ify has kept them in twilight zone. Both made advangeous trade resulting in very high pick with another later round one plus two in round two. If car stereo can pry Those pics from both teams I will switch my loyalty to him.

Then there is Carolina who is falling a bit which could make a third trade down with them interesting.
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Goff has played in a SB within the last 5 yrs.
 
Texian said:
My first option would be to trade 1.1 provided the Texans would get more than 3000 in trade value draft points. Preferably a 2023 1st RD Top 10 along with future 1st RD(s) picks. Because the Texans need a QB they should draft one every year until they find one. That is why I wanted to draft Matt Corral last year and this year I would be on board with drafting another QB in 2023.

If there are no takers for a trade back I would draft Bryce Young and sit him for a year. If you can draft Caleb Williams in 2024 then you trade Young for 3000 plus trade value draft points. If the Texans can't draft Williams then Young is their franchise QB.
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So in lieu of trading the top pick you go with Bryce Young ? You are that sold on Young, huh ?
BTW you know that icon picture of the guy in the upper right hand corner of this panel - I'm worried about him because based on his expression he needs an enema in the worse kinda way: please help him out please.
 
Texian said:
If there are no takers for a trade back I would draft Bryce Young and sit him for a year. If you can draft Caleb Williams in 2024 then you trade Young for 3000 plus trade value draft points. If the Texans can't draft Williams then Young is their franchise QB.
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Do you ever see teams doing that? Drafting a player in 2023 to trade in 2024 reduces the value of the drafted player. Instead of trading a 5 year contract, you're trading a 4 year deal. Not to mention the signing bonus and guaranteed $$$ you've already given the #1 overall pick that creates dead money and a cap hit when traded. Reduced cap space and there won't be 3000 draft value points a year later. Either take the player to play him or trade the pick before it is selected.
 
steelbtexan said:
If they decide Young's the pick, then I hope Caserio goes all offense with the 1st 4-5 picks. Getting young playmakers like Johnston/Washington and then drafting a Center and an OG in rds 3-4. Give Young every tool he needs to succeed. Then work on the defense in FA and the 2024 draft.
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If Young's the missing link, then draft him RD1-01. The only caveat to that, I'd use the remaining picks on defense. Young should be able to elevate the offense with his talent.
 
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OptimisticTexan said:
If Young's the missing link, then draft him RD1-01. The only caveat to that, I'd use the remaining picks on defense. Young should be able to elevate the offense with his talent.
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I want a full offense draft because the Texans have to be able to put up over 20 pts per game and I don't think Young's the guy that can do that on a consistent basis.

So draft everybody that needs to be drafted to give Young his best chance to succeed. No excuses.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I’d trade down and hopefully wind up with (3) RD1 picks.

LT- Paris Johnson, Jr (Ohio State)
DE- Tyree Wilson (Texas Tech)
Depending on who’s available:
OT- Peter Skoronski (Northwestern) or WR- Quentin Johnston (TCU)
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Those three would be nice but I don't think there is anyone worthy of moving up to the #1 spot for.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I like C’s, John Michael-Schmitz or Ricky Stromberg.

As for another G….Texans could get a solid answer a little later in Cody Mauch of North Dakota State.

This group could start in some spots or backup in 2023, but come 2024 the OL could look like this:

LT: Johnson
LG: Mauch
OC: Michael-Schmitz
RG: Green
RT: Skoronski
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Apparently Tunsil ain't going anywhere.
 
Number19 said:
The Texans, if I'm not forgetting, have never been really lucky with making that humongous draft day trade that just blows us away. The top of this '23 draft seems to be breaking in the Texans' favor. Maybe '23 just may be the one.
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How do you mean?
 
Texansphan said:
How do you mean?
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It appears many of the teams between 1/2 and 1/6 may not have a dire need to draft qb. The Panthers are the one team that almost assuredly will draft qb, unless they sign a fa. This increases the likelihood that teams may be looking at Anderson. Whether the Texans go offense or defense with our first pick, the opportunity for a trade, or multiple trades, may be increased. And if the Texans are eying Young, we could trade down a few spots and worry less about Carolina leapfrogging the Texans. If the draft goes defense at the top of the round, Carolina could just sit pat and let a qb fall to them.

We still have four weeks for the draft order to finalize, but it looks encouraging for an opportunity for the Texans to wheel and deal with the 1/1 selection.
 
Number19 said:
We still have four weeks for the draft order to finalize, but it looks encouraging for an opportunity for the Texans to wheel and deal with the 1/1 selection.
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I have to disagree. A pass rusher has gone #1 overall 5 times since 2000. No team has ever traded up to take them. QBs have gone #1 overall 16 times in that time span. With only 2 trades to move up for them. Deals for 1.1 rarely happen.
 
Lucky said:
I have to disagree. A pass rusher has gone #1 overall 5 times since 2000. No team has ever traded up to take them. QBs have gone #1 overall 16 times in that time span. With only 2 trades to move up for them. Deals for 1.1 rarely happen.
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Here is the list of 1st round trade ups for QBs.

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All 29 times that NFL teams traded up to draft a quarterback

From the bold moves that paid off -- like Patrick Mahomes -- to the many that didn't, here's a rundown of each QB trade-up from the common draft era.
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1st overall draft pick list

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