"Young wanted in Houston" ????

[GP]

Actually, Yes it was...

More friendly to him than any other offense he's been in.

(Sigh)

Rey, come on man.

This isn't degrees of skill here. It is an "either/or" game in the NFL.

You either have it, or you don't. That's why I crave this game. Because in the NFL, all else is stripped away. The great players are great, the great coaches are great, and there's none of the endless subjective debate like we find in other sports discussions.

Subjectivity is ruling the day here. There is so much so-called evidence that shows VY is incapable of changing his spots. There is so much so-called evidence that shows Kubiak is in the same boat, too.

Vick, IMO, was never a bad QB. He was just caught up in his own hype. Spending two years in prison is a helluva' lot different than VY spending two hours after getting the news he is done in Tennessee. Night and day. Vick woke up on the day he was sentenced to prison, but his rehab as a person (which affected his turnaround in the NFL) was a two-year process that was a daily reckoning for him.

VY is nowhere near the place that VY was. The story isn't the same. Nowhere close to being the same, rey.

EDIT: I think it's a huge slap in the face, to Vick, to place VY in the same sort of category as Vick.

 

[Rey]

(Sigh)

Rey, come on man.

This isn't degrees of skill here. It is an "either/or" game in the NFL.

Actually, yes...It is about degrees of skill when you're talking about NFL players...

Not sure what you mean here...

 

[Corrosion]

Actually, Yes it was...

More friendly to him than any other offense he's been in.

Have to agree with that , he put up some decent numbers with excellent completion percentages.

Sometimes I wonder if HHWNBM would have had to sit a while behind a veteran and didnt develop happy feet how much different things may have worked out for him.

 

[GP]

Actually, yes...It is about degrees of skill when you're talking about NFL players...

Not sure what you mean here...

Where is VY right now?

All this hype has drowned him.

And here's another thing: For all the great stats VY put up, he would then throw the most ridiculous pass you have ever seen, at some point in the game, and then it's downhill from there. That's where the "trust" issue comes in, IMO, that VY is talking about between him and Coach Fisher. Well hell, I wouldn't trust VY either if I saw him brainfart as much as he did.

There's empty, dormant areas inside VY's head. The Wonderlic measured it and agrees with me.

One last time: Look at all he has done, he's two days into being told he is done in Tennessee, and he's just going to go hop onto some team who will take him as a project....never knowing that they are getting a big bag of pissed off hornets just waiting to be let out.

I have felt this way about Terrell Owens, too. With those two guys, they perceive that nobody respects them and they can't trust anybody. VY talks about "trust" way too much. There's nothing a coach can do but let Vince be Vince. Only Mack Brown decided to do that, in VY's last season at UT, and just because it panned out for UT that year that's been the script ever since: Let Vince be Vince.

What was the USC defense ranked anyways? Wasn't it like in the 30-something range? I mean, I think that one game has been the worst thing for VY's entire NFL career. He's deluded. And others are enabling him.

So be it.

 

[infantrycak]

I think this is a QB friendly offense.

It is only QB friendly for a smart QB with good vision and an ability to go through his progressions - all things VY has been noted as lacking. VY needs to go to a team that wants to play lots of screens, RB dumps and TE passes on a check one (or none) long route and go system.

 

[BigBull17]

Actually, Yes it was...

More friendly to him than any other offense he's been in.

More friendly than a 2000 yard rusher and two reads? Look deep, look for tight end, look for CJ, run. That's it. Two offensive coordinators couldn't make him better. A coach risked his job to replace him as a QB. He has been given 5 years and he really hasn't improved that much. Our offense is precision based. VY has NO accuracy. It requires pre snap reads, VY cant read Dr. Seuss. Just a bad fit. Oakland is his home. Go deep baby.

 

[Marcus]

Where is the '**** NO!' option?

Just got on this thread, so I don't know how many times you've been quoted.

But yeah, where's the '**** NO' option!

And yeah, if they sign him, even bring him in for a tryout, I'm no longer a Texans fan. And that's no idle threat either. I always root for the Cowboys to lose. There isn't any law that says I can't root for the Texans to lose, either.

 

[Thorn]

Just got on this thread, so I don't know how many times you've been quoted.

But yeah, where's the '**** NO' option!

And yeah, if they sign him, even bring him in for a tryout, I'm no longer a Texans fan. And that's no idle threat either. I always root for the Cowboys to lose. There isn't any law that says I can't root for the Texans to lose, either.

I can't believe anyone in the Texans organization wants sausage boy on this team. Bringing him in is like smashing your toe with a hammer before going out to walk.

 

[Marcus]

Why does everyone here have their panties in such a bunch about Vince Young? I don't want him on the Texans, I don't think he fits what we do, but I don't see why everyone gets so emotional about a player that has nothing to do with this organization and really, where he goes doesn't make a damn bit of difference to the Texans.

What's the deal, people?

I noticed that your join date is Aug 2009.

If you were around here back in 2006, you'd very well know what the deal is.

VY isn't the cause of the hate. His fan-boys are. But it's VY hate just the same.

 

[wagonhed]

I noticed that your join date is Aug 2009.

If you were around here back in 2006, you'd very well know what the deal is.

VY isn't the cause of the hate. His fan-boys are. But it's VY hate just the same.

So VY "fan-boys" are enough for about half a dozen posters in this thread to say they'd straight up stop being a Texans fan if he got signed?

Forgive me if I have to wonder who the babies are in this situation.


Sorry but this thread is a freaking joke, and I don't give a **** about VY. GPs comments are across the board ridiculous. All the people above me on this page talking about how terrible VY is at QB is hilarious, considering his extremely good stats. It's nothing but spin, spin, spin in here. Many of yall would do well to leave your emotions out of this and take a second to look back into reality.


edit: Oh, and then there's the gay jokes. I can tell the anti-VY side has a really astute argument based on the constant gay jokes they like to employ. Cause, you know, there is something seriously wrong with being gay.

 

[Marcus]

I get that. I'm at peace with not making a move for Vince-----much more so than not making a move for a new head coach.

I'm really more intrigued by what Wagonhed commented on: the unabated hatred toward Vince among Texans fans, and where that hate comes from. I feel like, with Vince no longer a Titan, the reason for that hatred is sort of baseless.

Well, you joined in 2004, so I guess you got hit on the head and suffered amnesia or something.

The hate started way way before he became a Titan.

 

[Marcus]

Are you for real?

When did Matt go ape-crap crazy, rey?

You're comparing apples-to-sausages here.

Look at the long list of things VY has done, to his teammates and coaches, and look at the time he fled his home and the cops had to go find him because people were scared he would do something to himself.

Leinart's biggest flaw is that he's a self-conceited ass who thinks he's God's gift to football. "I have paid my dues" is laughable. He hasn't. I won't sit here and say he isn't flawed, but he's sight better than "loco en cabeza" VY is.

VY is a mental midget of gigantic proportions. You continue to sit here and completely ignore that his teammates said VY can't even call plays in a huddle. He doesn't know them. Can't remember them. The QB can't call the plays in the huddle. He storms out on his team, cusses out his coach, runs off in a car and cries in some abandoned parking lot at midnight, throws his shoulder pads into the stands, has a momma and a pastor who say people need to treat him right, etc. etc.

It's a nightmare. Even Bud Adams figured it out.

I don't see this happening with Leinart. Have I missed it?

You like VY. I get that. When we like someone, we want them to succeed.

But to sit here and say that VY would fit in with this team? Not happening. Kubiak axed David Carr, and I'm pretty sure David studied enough film to have at least been able to call plays in a huddle. The NFL game is just too big for VY. He did well facing a poorly-ranked USC defense. He did well facing sophomores. The jump to Big Boy Football has been a troubling experience for him.

How is how he going to right the ship?

You guys think that right now, he's sitting there going "Man, I messed up. I need to be a man." He's NOT!!! LOL.

Did you see his reply to the news he will be traded/cut? "I felt like I was never given a chance. Coach never had my back. He never trusted me. He didn't treat me like a man."

What part of that, rey, tells us that he is going to go somewhere and start fresh? In his world, Jeff Fisher is the one who screwed up.

I just don't see what you see. I don't get it.

WOW! Good post! Rep!

 

[TexansFanatic]

Well, you joined in 2004, so I guess you got hit on the head and suffered amnesia or something.

The hate started way way before he became a Titan.

Please explain.

I'm guessing you're talking about the post-Rose Bowl frenzy when 95% of the callers to local talk radio were saying they wanted Vince in Houston which then became outrage when the Texans went another direction which then begat a need to deride Vince in order to justify the Texans selection of Mario?

Or perhaps I do have amnesia. Help me out: how did the hate start?

 

[rush2112mn]

Vince Young has maturity issues.....he should have grown out of them before turning pro. I think the guy can play football...it is just he has emotional issues dealing with authority telling him what to do.

Fisher tried to help him, but finally gave up on him.

Vince needs to grow up first......

 

[Marcus]

Please explain.

I'm guessing you're talking about the post-Rose Bowl frenzy when 95% of the callers to local talk radio were saying they wanted Vince in Houston which then became outrage when the Texans went another direction which then begat a need to deride Vince in order to justify the Texans selection of Mario?

Or perhaps I do have amnesia. Help me out: how did the hate start?

Yeah, that's pretty much how it started. And it got to the point where it made me sick to my stomach. Completely turned me off.

And it's never stopped. You could turn on local talk-radio right now, and you'd still hear 95% of the callers say they want Vince in Houston.

It's enough to gag a maggot right off the gut wagon.

 

[wagonhed]

I guess that's what you get for listening to sports radio. I've never heard this stuff myself.

 

[TexansFanatic]

Yeah, that's pretty much how it started. And it got to the point where it made me sick to my stomach. Completely turned me off.

And it's never stopped. You could turn on local talk-radio right now, and you'd still hear 95% of the callers say they want Vince in Houston.

It's enough to gag a maggot right off the gut wagon.

I was one of those fans who wanted the Texans to draft Vince back in '06.

I was pretty outraged when the team went with Mario (especially since the obvious---at the time---choice was Reggie Bush) but I got over it. At this point it looks like the Texans got it right.

What I really hated as a Vince fan was that the Dark Lord, Bud Adams, took Vince for the sole purpose of sticking it to Houston fans. The really delicious irony is that Bud wound up screwing his own organization by taking a player his coach didn't want.

Now that Vince is no longer a Titan, I can relax knowing that Bud will not win a title with the player I originally wanted in a Texans uniform.

But the hate for Vince among Texans fans will clearly not subside until it's clear he will not win a title with any team. If somehow he does, my God, the hate will reach Biblical proportions.

 

[Corrosion]

I guess that's what you get for listening to sports radio. I've never heard this stuff myself.

Just go back and look at some of the draft threads from 06. There were two factions - VY/Bush and the debate was HEATED. Much of it probably had just as much to do with VY coming out of UT as it did VY / Bush. There's a lot of bitterness remaining - The media , most notably McLaim and Dick Justice did their best to stir the pot.

I can only think of one person off hand who had MW coming to the Texans ....Kaiser Toro. The rest were having a love hate bitchfest about the above named.

I was pretty outraged when the team went with Mario (especially since the obvious---at the time---choice was Reggie Bush) but I got over it. At this point it looks like the Texans got it right.

I was pretty much stuck between Bush and VY and in hindsight , Im glad they took MW over those jackholes.

Bush wasnt worth the 54million .... has had injuries. Sure he won a superbowl but that was the TEAM not the individual.

VY has been a head case ....

 

[Grams]

When you get something shoved in your face repeatedly, one tends to not like it. Sort of like having the Cowboys shoved in your face, on the TV, their obnoxious fans - not all of them (not the Cowboys fans here) - but a large majority of them.

All we heard before that year's draft was either Bush or Young, Young or Bush. After we drafted Mario, all the news outlets, papers, message board ridiculed the Texans for the pick.

I think Vince is an immature, spoiled momma's boy who if things do not go his way, he complains that it is all someone else fault. It is never his fault as he can do no wrong.

Texas had to dumb down their offense so he could play. So probably did the Titans as he still cannot call plays in the huddle. There are several articles on his lack of mental capabilitiy and his "poor me" antics which leads to the reasons he will no longer be a Titan.

He is 27 (?) years old and still acting like a baby. Still blaming others for his inadequacies. He has not grown up, has not matured.

The Texans do not need to even look at him, talk to him or even have it cross thier mind to do so.

 

[drs23]

When you get something shoved in your face repeatedly, one tends to not like it. Sort of like having the Cowboys shoved in your face, on the TV, their obnoxious fans - not all of them (not the Cowboys fans here) - but a large majority of them.

All we heard before that year's draft was either Bush or Young, Young or Bush. After we drafted Mario, all the news outlets, papers, message board ridiculed the Texans for the pick.

I think Vince is an immature, spoiled momma's boy who if things do not go his way, he complains that it is all someone else fault. It is never his fault as he can do no wrong.

Texas had to dumb down their offense so he could play. So probably did the Titans as he still cannot call plays in the huddle. There are several articles on his lack of mental capabilitiy and his "poor me" antics which leads to the reasons he will no longer be a Titan.

He is 27 (?) years old and still acting like a baby. Still blaming others for his inadequacies. He has not grown up, has not matured.

The Texans do not need to even look at him, talk to him or even have it cross thier mind to do so.

Ditto.

 

[The1ApplePie]

This is going into to turn into blind VY fanboys and blind VY haters isn't it?



I hate the dude for beating my college team in the National Title game, but I don't want the guy's still-beating heart on a sliver platter either.

 

[Corrosion]

Its gonna turn into ..... wtf I dont understand that language.

 

[Grams]

This is into to turn into blind VY fanboys and blind VY haters isn't it?



I hate the dude for beating my college team in the National Title game, but I don't want the guy's still-beating heart on a sliver platter either.

I don't want his heart on a silver platter either, I just do not want it here in Houston.

 

[The1ApplePie]

Its gonna turn into ..... wtf I dont understand that language.

Forgot "going"

God my typing is crap today

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

When you get something shoved in your face repeatedly, one tends to not like it. Sort of like having the Cowboys shoved in your face, on the TV, their obnoxious fans - not all of them (not the Cowboys fans here) - but a large majority of them.

All we heard before that year's draft was either Bush or Young, Young or Bush. After we drafted Mario, all the news outlets, papers, message board ridiculed the Texans for the pick.

I think Vince is an immature, spoiled momma's boy who if things do not go his way, he complains that it is all someone else fault. It is never his fault as he can do no wrong.

Texas had to dumb down their offense so he could play. So probably did the Titans as he still cannot call plays in the huddle. There are several articles on his lack of mental capabilitiy and his "poor me" antics which leads to the reasons he will no longer be a Titan.

He is 27 (?) years old and still acting like a baby. Still blaming others for his inadequacies. He has not grown up, has not matured.

The Texans do not need to even look at him, talk to him or even have it cross thier mind to do so.

Yes I AM grown up! Oh! Wait a minute...............

 

[midway]

I have felt this way about Terrell Owens, too. With those two guys, they perceive that nobody respects them and they can't trust anybody. VY talks about "trust" way too much. There's nothing a coach can do but let Vince be Vince. Only Mack Brown decided to do that, in VY's last season at UT, and just because it panned out for UT that year that's been the script ever since: Let Vince be Vince.

I agree with most of your post but while I don't like Terrell Owens' act, he is one of the best wide outs in the history of the game. Vince.... is nowhere near that when it comes to being a QB. TO is a guy who could get away with this behavior because he was so damn good.

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

I wouldn't trade for him cause I wouldn't want that contract . I might talk to him if he gets cut but that's a tricky situation that you may find out isn't worth it .

 

[dickieb]

The only way I would take a chance with VY is if he agreed to a league minium deal to compete for a backup QB position. See how bad he wants to be in Houston and how bad he wants to grow up, work hard to get better as a QB, and work on his image. Even then, I don't think Kubiak/Smith/McNair would want him. That being said, there are several teams that will take a chance on him and offer him decent money.

 

[Hookem Horns]

I don't think any of the Texas teams would be wise to bring in VY. Doing that would immediately sabotage the current starting QB. The minute Romo or Schaub throws a bad pass the VY jock munchers would be calling for VY. It would cause way too much drama and wouldn't be fair to either of the starters.

 

[b0ng]

I don't think any of the Texas teams would be wise to bring in VY. Doing that would immediately sabotage the current starting QB. The minute Romo or Schaub throws a bad pass the VY jock munchers would be calling for VY. It would cause way too much drama and wouldn't be fair to either of the starters.

This is the thing that wagonhead does not understand. Also, saying VY is putting up great stats is the most laughable thing I've read on these forums in awhile. The guy is not a good quarterback and has not been a good quarterback since he has come into the league. This "Just Wins Games" bullshit needs to end because the quarterback isn't the only mother****er on the field for these games being won. The fact of the matter is, up until this year the Titans have had a decent defense and a pretty awesome running game with some good pass catching TE's. He's got all that, and he can't even consistently beat out a liquored up Kerry Collins on a yearly basis.

People believe this is some sort of hatred of VY because. . . well I don't know why somebody from Houston would inherently hate VY, he seems like a nice enough dude with a child-like wonder and amazement for what is going on around him. But the fact is, he's a ****ing terrible QB. ON TOP OF THE FACT that he's a goddamned headcase and has walked out on his coach and team like 2 or 3 times, he turns the ball over a lot. In his sporadic 5 years in the NFL (And remember, he's not playing in a lot of games for being such a great QB) he's fumbled the ball over 20 times and has thrown just as many picks as he has TD's. His completion % is ****ing terrible for a starting QB, and he's not one of those guys that this ejaculatory cannon for an arm that can at least wing deep balls near the spot where they are supposed to be on occasion.

Can he be a decent backup? Yeah, he probably could. But his retarded fans make it so that we have to listen to people talk about how great he is, when he's not, and how much he could help the team, when he probably won't. I say let another team take a whack at him being a QB for them, we can pick up a different FA as a backup for our QB. And if picking the wrong backup QB sinks us for the playoffs again next year, we weren't going to go anyway.

 

[Playoffs]

This is going into to turn into blind VY fanboys and blind VY haters isn't it?

17% VY fanboys .... 'nuff said.

 

[wildroot]

What I really hated as a Vince fan was that the Dark Lord, Bud Adams, took Vince for the sole purpose of sticking it to Houston fans. The really delicious irony is that Bud wound up screwing his own organization by taking a player his coach didn't want.

I've never understood the logic on this point.

Did Houston fans think that if Bud passed on VY that he's be there for us to take in the 2nd round when we picked again? After all, we passed on him taking Mario instead.

 

[Hookem Horns]

I've never understood the logic on this point.

Did Houston fans think that if Bud passed on VY that he's be there for us to take in the 2nd round when we picked again? After all, we passed on him taking Mario instead.

Actually Wildroot there is a lot of substance to what TexansFanatic is saying there. It wasn't about the Texans drafting Vince because they were not going to draft Vince. At that point McNair was sold on Carr being the QB of the future. Carr had already been with the Texans for a few seasons and McNair didn't want to set the organization back by drafting a new QB and starting all over again. Carr just needed some tweaking (sounds like the Kubiak situation doesn't it?).

Bud knew that there was a large segment of the Texans fanbase that wanted Vince. Even Bob Lanier's wife was on the radio clamoring for the Texans to draft Vince. Remember it was her husband who was partially responsible for Bud leaving town. Bud lives in Houston so he obviously knew the hysteria that was going on here.

Drafting Vince was Bud's way of saying "screw you" to the city of Houston and it's fanbase. Bud envisioned fans turning on the Texans and sporting Titans gear. The dude knew what he was doing. What is sad is that for the most part it worked. All of us here know fans here in Texas who sold their soul to the Devil (Bud Adams) to root for the Titans because of Vince.

Since Vince was his pawn in his vendetta war against Houston of course he didn't want to let him go. Bud has NEVER been loyal like that to ANY player before, not even Earl Campbell.

As it has played out the entire thing has blown up in his face. Bud seriously screwed himself and his organization in the long run for some short term jollies. I forgot the number however if Bud would have kept VY over Fisher he would have had to pay Fisher 6 million plus next season, pay his new coach whatever salary he would have coming, and then on top of that pay VY whatever outrageous amount of money VY was due to stay on the team.

Bud gave in to his pocketbook. He was quoted yesterday as saying that he made the decision he did because he wasn't going to pay Fisher for not being there. I think I read somewhere that this decision saved him around 21 million dollars. So the bottom line is his war against the Houston fanbase wasn't worth 21 million.

 

[ubecool454]

I'll take vince if he can play FS.

 

[ubecool454]

I can see Vince ending up in the CFL or the AFL.

 

[GP]

I can see Vince ending up in the CFL or the AFL.

I already called that one.

It's where Vince Can Be Vince.

It's just a street-ball version of football. Everybody run around and get freaky.

He'll light it up, and then some NFL team will lure him back (with the enticement of making him the next Kurt Warner).

 

[Señor Stan]

(with the enticement of making him the next Kurt Warner).

...bagging groceries at the Hy-Vee in Cedar Rapids, Iowa?

 

[TexansFanatic]

Actually Wildroot there is a lot of substance to what TexansFanatic is saying there. It wasn't about the Texans drafting Vince because they were not going to draft Vince. At that point McNair was sold on Carr being the QB of the future. Carr had already been with the Texans for a few seasons and McNair didn't want to set the organization back by drafting a new QB and starting all over again. Carr just needed some tweaking (sounds like the Kubiak situation doesn't it?).

Bud knew that there was a large segment of the Texans fanbase that wanted Vince. Even Bob Lanier's wife was on the radio clamoring for the Texans to draft Vince. Remember it was her husband who was partially responsible for Bud leaving town. Bud lives in Houston so he obviously knew the hysteria that was going on here.

Drafting Vince was Bud's way of saying "screw you" to the city of Houston and it's fanbase. Bud envisioned fans turning on the Texans and sporting Titans gear. The dude knew what he was doing. What is sad is that for the most part it worked. All of us here know fans here in Texas who sold their soul to the Devil (Bud Adams) to root for the Titans because of Vince.

Since Vince was his pawn in his vendetta war against Houston of course he didn't want to let him go. Bud has NEVER been loyal like that to ANY player before, not even Earl Campbell.

As it has played out the entire thing has blown up in his face. Bud seriously screwed himself and his organization in the long run for some short term jollies. I forgot the number however if Bud would have kept VY over Fisher he would have had to pay Fisher 6 million plus next season, pay his new coach whatever salary he would have coming, and then on top of that pay VY whatever outrageous amount of money VY was due to stay on the team.

Bud gave in to his pocketbook. He was quoted yesterday as saying that he made the decision he did because he wasn't going to pay Fisher for not being there. I think I read somewhere that this decision saved him around 21 million dollars. So the bottom line is his war against the Houston fanbase wasn't worth 21 million.

Outstanding explanation of the way it all unfolded.

 

[thunderkyss]

I stayed out of this thread, because I didn't believe anyone would actually think about doing this. I mean.... really.

I don't have the "ire" for Justice as many hear share...... but I'm getting there.

Justice: Outside the Box

Could Vince Young make the Texans better? Of course he could. In the end, that ought to be the only thing that matters.

That the Texans probably won't even think about acquiring him speaks volumes about the organization's timidity and lack of creative thinking. But you already knew that.

What the hell is this dude smoking?

Now, I don't consider Schaub to be elite... I understand the argument for it & all that, but to me he just isn't there.

However, you've got to be an idiaat to want to take him off the field. To put the ball in someone else's hand.

Other teams out there that need help offensively (& I don't think our offense is perfect) maybe... but we don't need gimmicks.

:kubepalm:

 

[Stemp]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/7383789.html

Hey Dick, your idiocy is showing again!
:wadepalm:

 

[Luv_ya_blue]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/7383789.html

Hey Dick, your idiocy is showing again!
:wadepalm:

Could Vince Young make the Texans better? Of course he could. In the end, that ought to be the only thing that matters.

Now Stemp, don't jump the gun. He COULD make us better...
Imagine how much of a benefit it'd be to have Vince with his strength and speed; get those water bottles in to the guys during a time out! Huh???

Gotta think outside the box.

 

[Stemp]

The problem with bringing him in as backup QB is that all the VY fanboys would be banging pots and demanding he start as soon as he signs. If he couldn't hack it under Fischer, there is no way he gets it done with a HC who is still in the hot seat.

 

[Second Honeymoon]

Yeah tk, I read the article in the Sunday paper
Blatant troll move by Dick

The future of VY is a hot-button in this town
But he knewwhat he was doing even though he tried to have a realistic point

BVince needs to go to a place where he can start
Sf, ariz, Minny (my pick), or carolina...

If it has to be as backup I would say Cleveland with Colt. Colt could help Vince learn how to conduct himself and how to study/prepare

 

[Luv_ya_blue]

The problem with bringing him in as backup QB is that all the VY fanboys would be banging pots and demanding he start as soon as he signs. If he couldn't hack it under Fischer, there is no way he gets it done with a HC who is still in the hot seat.

If this was in response to MY post, you missed what I was saying...

My comments were 102% a joke!

VY can take his butt somewhere else! WE DON'T NEED HIM!!!

 

[Doppelganger]

I stayed out of this thread, because I didn't believe anyone would actually think about doing this. I mean.... really.

I don't have the "ire" for Justice as many hear share...... but I'm getting there.

Justice: Outside the Box

​

What the hell is this dude smoking?

Now, I don't consider Schaub to be elite... I understand the argument for it & all that, but to me he just isn't there.

However, you've got to be an idiaat to want to take him off the field. To put the ball in someone else's hand.

Other teams out there that need help offensively (& I don't think our offense is perfect) maybe... but we don't need gimmicks.

:kubepalm:

I don't see why you can't have both Schaub and Young on the field at the same time. As long as Young comes here knowing he has no chance to replace Schaub and he is competing for the backup role, why not bring him in? You could have a wildcat package with Young running the ball or use him as a decoy on some plays. We could use Young the way Philly used Vick: let him get 2-3 wild cat snaps per game just to make the defense have to think about it.

 

[Second Honeymoon]

Oh and anyone who doesn't think VY is going to get picked up is high as a kite
The impending lockout may delay the inevitable trade/release by the Titans but I expect him to be traded sooner rather than later. Probably a release though as his contract is high

They will wait till last minute if needed but he will be gone from the titans soon

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

The problem with bringing him in as backup QB is that all the VY fanboys would be banging pots and demanding he start as soon as he signs. If he couldn't hack it under Fischer, there is no way he gets it done with a HC who is still in the hot seat.

Yep ... it happens on the radio now . VY fan boy calls in ... Yea umm the problem with the Texans is Matt Schaub can't throw and he's not an athlete . They'll never win the big one with him because he doesn't have the arm strength . Schaub threw for 4700 yards in 09 because he didn't have a running game . I'd bet VY ... who only wins ... couldn't have carried that team .

 

[AcresHomesTexan]

Justice claims that the Texans need to "think outside the box" with a move that could not be more "inside the box." I mean bringing the hometown/state hero to be the back-up to an OK, but not great starter was not thought up by anybodyelse.

My objection is not to former 1st round QBs as project (Linert was a correct move), but that Young has too rabid of a fanbase here to help overcome the things that he needs to improve. Young needs to find a place where he is not the hero and not the golden child in waiting to save the franchise. He needs to work on working harder, learning the playbook and just being another guy who is lucky to be in the NFL. When (if) he gets that stuff he probably can be a fine NFL starter. I just think too love already exist here for him to work at his craft w/o expectations of greatness.

 

[texas838]

Young is a cancer. Shaub is a great QB, he just needs some time. However, his time is kind of running out...

 

[SteveSlaton20]

Bob McNair always say that the NFL is business, and VY jerseys would sell. Plus he'd make a better back-up than Leinart, and that other guy would like to run out of the endzone for a safety.