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Would you trade Travis Johnson & #66 pick for Derrick Johnson?

Would you trade Travis Johnson & #66 pick for Derrick Johnson?

  • Yes

    Votes: 52 43.7%

  • No

    Votes: 67 56.3%
  • Total voters
    119
I voted no....only b/c we already have TJ and I think the #66 is too valuable to trade away at this point.

Do I wish we had DJ instead of TJ? A thousand time yes...but we don't. If we wanted him, we should have taken him last year when we had the chance...instead of passing on him b/c he had a few questions but taking a player that had a LOT MORE questions.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
I tried to reply to this, but the only thing I could muster in a neutral non offensive way was - :brickwall
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I feel you. As a non-mod, I would be say what need to be said, take the PM and/or one or two day shut down from Vinny and move on with my life.
 
stevo3883 said:
dude can you not make 1 post without acting like there is some kind of super conspiracy by longhorns to rule the world?
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so please, drop the "tu" "tsips" garbage for at least 1 second and try to talk without whining about your aggie hatred for ut.
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LOL. People tend to see what they want to see. That applies to everyone, but some folks are more one note and negative than others. IMO, it is usually compensation for not really having anything of value to say.

As for TJ v. DJ, I was fine with the pick either way so I think the thought of a trade is silly talk. I think TJ's football skills on the field have already been discussed in this thread, but I will add (rank speculation alert) that he is the kind of guy I could see becoming a leader on this team. He is a big personality, has an easy smile, displays a bit of swagger and confidence but is not overbearing or unrealistic about stuff, and I am thinking that as he gets more comfortable with the NFL game, he could become one of our team leaders on defense.

But that might just be wishful thinking on my part and deducing too much from the times I've seen him interacting with teammates. :texflag:
 
grid quote:

"Well this board is full of so many Tsips right now that its easier to just group everyone with a bad idea in with them..than trying to single out which ones are Tsips and which ones are just unintelligent"


are you either an aggie or a sooner? just wondering.
 
I voted no primarily because we are going to 4-3,and he is our youngest DT. Not to mention we took him in the first round,correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't he the top DL prospect in last years draft? I think we may already have our version in DJ with Shantee Orr.Unless it was a fluke this dude looks like he could be a beast in the pass rush.
 
bayshorebevo said:
grid quote:

"Well this board is full of so many Tsips right now that its easier to just group everyone with a bad idea in with them..than trying to single out which ones are Tsips and which ones are just unintelligent"


you are so full of hatred for any mention of ut (tsip is an aggie condemnation). you never miss any opening to knock texas. are you an aggie or a sooner? nothing wrong with either, but you are blinded by hate.
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He gives "Gig em" rep comments...so I'll let you guess.
 
Vinny said:
All world NFL linebacker Derrick Brooks 62.0 tackles and one sack his rookie season.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/3160

Warren Sapp 16.0 Tackles and 3 sacks as a rookie.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/4214

Moral to this story? Don't be a knee jerk.
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Vinny, there you go again messing everyones "dreams/fantasies" up with pure facts or logic. Tsk Tsk! On 610 this morning DC Richard Smith left me with the feeling he sees potential in T Johnson. Also mentioned Robaire Smith was not used to his potential. It will be interesting to see how the line does this year with new direction.
 
Meloy said:
Vinny, there you go again messing everyones "dreams/fantasies" up with pure facts or logic. Tsk Tsk! On 610 this morning DC Richard Smith left me with the feeling he sees potential in T Johnson. Also mentioned Robaire Smith was not used to his potential. It will be interesting to see how the line does this year with new direction.
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Thanks for the relay. I like what Richard Smith said about Robaire.
 
Uh-oh LBC_Justin, you committed one of the biggest sins on this board: showing any sort of positive opinion on a player from UT.

This board has to have the biggest group of UT haters out there. My opinion of many posters on this board has gone down the tube because of their hatred for anything UT.
 
Htown34s said:
Uh-oh LBC_Justin, you committed one of the biggest sins on this board: showing any sort of positive opinion on a player from UT.

This board has to have the biggest group of UT haters out there. My opinion of many posters on this board has gone down the tube because of their hatred for anything UT.
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This board is the opposite of what you think, if anything the board colors should be puke orange
 
Ive never met a longhorn outside of this board that I didnt like. The Tsips on this forum have earned my disdain.

He gives "Gig em" rep comments...so I'll let you guess.
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huh?

but some folks are more one note and negative than others. IMO, it is usually compensation for not really having anything of value to say.
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My posts have been more than "ut sucks".. ive explained my point of view. And anyone who accuses me of negativity hasnt read my posts :).. im insufferably upbeat about the Texans.
 
Both sides of this silly College rivalry ruins this message board. I wish you guys would consider everyone else. Just try to give it a rest.
 
While I agree with that Vinny... the "college rivalry" has nothing to do with it. As I said..ive never met a Longhorn outside of this board that I didnt like.

If it was USC fans supporting Lienart coming here reciting all the arguement we hear about VY, and refusing to think of him as less than god-like, and bashing Carr in EVERY thread..even the ones that dont involve him.... they would get just as tiring and annoying as the UT fans are proving to be.

the "college rivalry" has nothing to do with it.
 
Grid your stat comparison does absolutely nothing for your argument, greenwood was a ilb in the 3-4 last year while DJ was an olb in the 4-3

3-4 ilbs have a lot more tackle opportunities than 4-3 olbs.

there is not a person on this board that would take greenwood over DJ, except maybe you.

as for who is the better player between DJ and TJ, its way too early to tell.
 
Htown34s said:
Uh-oh LBC_Justin, you committed one of the biggest sins on this board: showing any sort of positive opinion on a player from UT.

This board has to have the biggest group of UT haters out there. My opinion of many posters on this board has gone down the tube because of their hatred for anything UT.
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UT haters ? I've been a UT fan for 35 of my 41 years,I just don't see how people like you think just because they are from UT they are a great fit for this team.College and Pro are apples and Oranges,here we discuss the best for our PRO team,maybe your views will be best served on a college MB.:stirpot:
 
travfrancis said:
Grid your stat comparison does absolutely nothing for your argument, greenwood was a ilb in the 3-4 last year while DJ was an olb in the 4-3

3-4 ilbs have a lot more tackle opportunities than 4-3 olbs.

there is not a person on this board that would take greenwood over DJ, except maybe you.

as for who is the better player between DJ and TJ, its way too early to tell.
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1. Id take DJ over Greenwood. My stat comparison was to point out just how little DJ did last season.. and the easiest way to do that was to compare his stats to Greenwood... because people here are unhappy with Greenwood's performance.

2. Greenwood played 4-3 OLB at Miami :).. what does that prove? nothing..heh.. but his last year Miami he did have similar stats to Johnson..minus the 2 sacks. He was nowhere near as good his First season though.

3. We are in complete agreement on the fact that it is too early to tell who is better between DJ and TJ... so im wondering why you are so militant towards me :)...maybe cause its the hip thing to do these days :yahoo:
 
no.. i just explained to you how it doesnt have anything to do with it.. at least not on my part. So quit accusing me of petty rivalries.
 
whiskeyrbl said:
I just don't see how people like you think just because they are from UT they are a great fit for this team.
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You're off base here. I have never been that sort of poster, and I expect the same from others.

I love UT, but I'm often more critical of the teams I like. I was a big DJ fan, but understood and excepted the reasons why we passed on him in the draft last year. I can't think of many UT players I wish we would be on our team. I was a fan of Vasher, but he had a bad workout so even I thought he was in over his head (apples and oranges).

There are a lot of people who explode any time they see something positive posted about someone from UT (and other universities also, but UT far more often IMO). I wish it would stop.
 
Htown34s said:
You're off base here. I have never been that sort of poster, and I expect the same from others.

I love UT, but I'm often more critical of the teams I like. I was a big DJ fan, but understood and excepted the reasons why we passed on him in the draft last year. I can't think of many UT players I wish we would be on our team. I was a fan of Vasher, but he had a bad workout so even I thought he was in over his head (apples and oranges).

There are a lot of people who explode any time they see something positive posted about someone from UT (and other universities also, but UT far more often IMO). I wish it would stop.
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If i was off base then i'll apologize for that,i like you see some bashing of UT players but that i think is fallout of the VY craze.I just want what is best for this team even if means we get a great player from BF egypt as long as he helps.Personaly i wanted DJ last year also but understood the pick,this year i hope they seriously consider Griffen,very versatile player with alot of intangibles and could help immensly IMO in the secondary,but thats why i'm here and not in the WAR ROOM.Leave it to the Pros that get paid to make those tough decisions.
 
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