Well all 3 of them our out now...
Keep Texans Talk Google Ad Free!
Venmo Tip Jar | Paypal Tip Jar
Thanks for your support! 🍺😎👍
Won't have to deal with Ray Lewis
- Thread starter toronto
- Start date
Well all 3 of them our out now...
Cjeremy635
Overtraining
I saw this earlier on Monday Night Countdown.
When I saw it, I was like, "you gotta be $hittin' me!"
Ray is one of my favorite NFL players and his personality is contagious. I have mad respect for what he does off the field. He's a great player, but that's a temporary thing in life. The people whose lives he's touched will last a lifetime, and maybe longer, if it impacts them in such a way that they become a positive inspiration to someone else. It's the "pay it forward" concept.
DB, I totally agree about his appearance on the show A Football Life. I already really liked the guy, but that just impressed me on a whole other level. You can't help but root for the guy. To watch someone that is so fired up, in everything that they do in life, is a sight to see. Tex, you gotta make it a point to watch that episode. You won't be disappointed.
He dropped 15 lbs in the offseason to help him play faster. There's no question that his career is nearing the end, but I'd hate for it to end like this. When he retires, the game will be losing a great competitor and it will be a sad day.
I hope that somehow he is able to make a full recovery and retire the way he wants to. I have no doubt that this isn't how he visualized it playing out.
When I saw it, I was like, "you gotta be $hittin' me!"
Ray is one of my favorite NFL players and his personality is contagious. I have mad respect for what he does off the field. He's a great player, but that's a temporary thing in life. The people whose lives he's touched will last a lifetime, and maybe longer, if it impacts them in such a way that they become a positive inspiration to someone else. It's the "pay it forward" concept.
DB, I totally agree about his appearance on the show A Football Life. I already really liked the guy, but that just impressed me on a whole other level. You can't help but root for the guy. To watch someone that is so fired up, in everything that they do in life, is a sight to see. Tex, you gotta make it a point to watch that episode. You won't be disappointed.
He dropped 15 lbs in the offseason to help him play faster. There's no question that his career is nearing the end, but I'd hate for it to end like this. When he retires, the game will be losing a great competitor and it will be a sad day.
I hope that somehow he is able to make a full recovery and retire the way he wants to. I have no doubt that this isn't how he visualized it playing out.
Cjeremy635
Overtraining
Not true. He has a son named Ray Lewis III. Just sayin', lol.
MEGA SWATT
All Pro
Yep, but he hired big time attorneys and bought his way to probation that would have landed an avg. man in jail for life. He also just paid off the families of those 2 men that were killed.
The white suit Lewis was wearing the night of the killings has never been found......hmmm wonder why....it was probably red.
Hall of fame, no - more like Hall of shame.
TEXANRED
Texan-American
Now thats funny
chicagotexan2
Easterby = Little Finger/Cal = Fredo Corleone
Maybe he's lived a clean life since then, maybe he's an upstanding citizen, maybe he inspires others with pep talks, maybe he does a silly dance at game intros. Maybe he just tried to protect his friends by covering up a murder. Maybe he just didn't want to rat out his friends and didn't want to cooperate with the police when two men were stabbed and killed. So what? Covering up for a friend is the same thing Paterno did and the great things he did won't reconcile or make up for what he should have done. I know he's an alltime great. But when I think of Ray Lewis I also think of the incident too, not just football. If this is the end of his playing days, tisk tisk.
Cjeremy635
Overtraining
Really? And you're perfect?
I'm not saying he did or didn't murder someone. None of us will ever know what actually happened. But, if he did, he sure decided to change his life for the positive and try to do some good in the world with the second chance he was given. I'm not the man's judge & jury. I'm not going to sit here on a message board and condemn a man for something that was never proven factual.
Dude, we're all guilty of something.
chicagotexan2
Easterby = Little Finger/Cal = Fredo Corleone
Yes we are. I can't condemn him either. I don;t have the power to do anything to him. But I don't see im as a hero or a great man. All I can say is I won't gloss over what he was involved in just because he puts on a good show.
b0ng
Bad Hombre
I'd say a good 99% of this board are probably not guilty of covering up a murder so that one or two of their buddies could walk. Much less themselves.
EDIT: Not sure about GP though :P
handswarmer
Rookie
Wow- Ravens come to town and yet another thread degenerates into "Ray is a murderer"...
How about doing something positive?
The facts are all out there; opinions are all out there- make your choices.
Whatever transpired that night has nothing to do with his on-field legacy.
How about doing something positive?
The facts are all out there; opinions are all out there- make your choices.
Whatever transpired that night has nothing to do with his on-field legacy.
b0ng
Bad Hombre
I refuse to believe that the "facts" are all out there.
Who cares though, it only detracts from what he is as a human being, not what he is as a football player (which is legendary).
Trail.Blazr
Hooked up to a Kool-Aid IV
So NOT true. If not for his on-field legacy, THAT night would have been just another night in Atlanta that 99.9999% of the world never knows/cares of. If you don't believe that night will forever be linked to his name and his legacy you are kidding yourself.
It may or may not be fair, but it's the cruel reality of the court of public opinion.
chicagotexan2
Easterby = Little Finger/Cal = Fredo Corleone
Maybe you can show me where the deaths of 2 men tarnish him as a player to the people on this board. I believe in him as a one time great LB. I don't believe in him as a good person.
handswarmer
Rookie
Maybe you should re-read what I wrote.
Doesn't matter though- people will always say things like "Ray was one of the best to ever play the game- but then theres that thing in Atlanta"....
Hervoyel
BUENO!
There's probably a reason why that happens when the Ravens come to town. It might have something to do with those facts. The dude ditched his clothes faster than OJ could lose a pair of gloves but pointing out the obvious is being negative because Ray's a great player?
Nope.
I like Ray but his actions are simply indefensible regarding that case. I think he grew up rough and had some hanger-ons from the wrong crowd. I've read about the case from many different angles, and it's really difficult to say with any certainty what exactly happened that night. I do not believe that he committed the murders, though.
I do think he's a good man at his core. He was not a trouble-maker before that night and he's been nothing but a solid, upstanding citizen since then. I can't blame anyone for their opinions in connection with that tragic night, but I also look big picture and do not see man in a pattern of trouble. If anything, he's out there telling his story and the wake up call that a jail cell was for his life.
I did not always feel this way. I used to convict him in the trial of public opinion, as well.
Playoffs
Hall of Fame
handswarmer
Rookie
Level headed approach. Well done
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
Who cares right now. He's out for the year and that's all that matters right now.
I don't care how it affects the Ravens. Nobody gave a damn when we had half our ****ing team out throughout the year last year. I won't feel sympathy for any team ever again after what we had to go through last year.
I don't care how it affects the Ravens. Nobody gave a damn when we had half our ****ing team out throughout the year last year. I won't feel sympathy for any team ever again after what we had to go through last year.
Maddict5
Hall of Fame
that jerry sandusky was a swell guy too... well you know apart from that incident....:mariopalm:
Hervoyel
BUENO!
This is really all that matters. He's not playing and how that affects the game is all I'm interested in. I know enough to not assume that just because a player like this (declining skills not withstanding) is out it means that the other team will be hurting. The Ravens defense will be possibly a little better on the field and maybe a little lacking in the heart but even that can be a motivator. They'll have the mindset of feeling they need to win one for Lewis and Webb. They'll come in focused on compensating for that loss and playing at a higher level if possible. At the same time the Texans will hopefully be trying to prove that Sunday night wasn't them and using that for motivation.
Should be a good game. First seed in the AFC is up for grabs and both teams have significant reasons to be additionally motivated. The team that can't get up for this game needs to have its pulse checked. Hope that doesn't end up being us.
Scooter
Funky
i dont know what happened, and there hasnt been an argument on either side to convince me of anything. what i know is that ray is one of the greatest players to ever step on to the field. i know that he's an inspiration to dang near every player in the league, and to millions watching. i know he offers himself to any player asking for advice or guidance, be they teammate or rival (including our own). i know he spends time in the community as do many superstars, but few do so with such fervor, taking each encounter personally.
it sucks that he's going to miss this game because honestly i like watching him play. i'd like to watch him lose this weekend obviously, but ray ray's one that i would rather have on the field when we face the ravens.
it sucks that he's going to miss this game because honestly i like watching him play. i'd like to watch him lose this weekend obviously, but ray ray's one that i would rather have on the field when we face the ravens.
Dread-Head
Hall of Fame
yeah...but Ed Reed is still going to be there...UNLESS...we get Hines Ward to come out of retirement for one game to try to break his jaw again.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
OJ Simpson was a helluva running back.
Well of course there's that whole turning two people in human pez dispensers, thingy.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Seriously though, I wish this thread would not have spiraled out of control. Both teams have injuries to deal with and let's hope this Sunday, there are no more. This way when both teams meet for the AFC Conference Championship Game, they'll both be as healthy as possible.
My gut tells me that if the Texans can make it to the AFC Championship game, Peyton Manning will be on the other side of the ball. That would be our typical destiny as Houston football fans, of course.
htownfan32
Hall of Fame
I'd rather face the Broncos than most other AFC teams. Maybe the Ravens, but I feel like the Patriots would lay the same kind of hurt the Packers did on us 
b0ng
Bad Hombre
I'd rather face the Broncos than most other AFC teams. Maybe the Ravens, but I feel like the Patriots would lay the same kind of hurt the Packers did on us
We'll find out how we compare soon enough.
I'd rather face the Broncos than most other AFC teams. Maybe the Ravens, but I feel like the Patriots would lay the same kind of hurt the Packers did on us
At this point, yeah, I agree.
However, by the end of the season? Manning will have that team fine tuned like a well-oiled machine. You could already see it happening last Monday night. I did not turn the 24-0 game off at halftime because I was curious about Manning. Dude just blew my mind....again.
I say it's our destiny in a quasi-facetious sort of way. Part of me is way to cynical to believe in karma. But I'd be lying if I said another little part of me thinks there's some voodoo mojo going on with the ancient Indian burial grounds under Reliant & the Astrodome. I don't believe in curses, but if I did, I would certainly believe Houston football teams suffer from at least one of them.
Something in my mind tells me that the Broncos win their division and we end up facing them at some point in the playoffs. I'd rather go against the Pats or Ravens, as well...but...it's that Manning thing.
b0ng
Bad Hombre
At this point, yeah, I agree.
However, by the end of the season? Manning will have that team fine tuned like a well-oiled machine. You could already see it happening last Monday night. I did not turn the 24-0 game off at halftime because I was curious about Manning. Dude just blew my mind....again.
I say it's our destiny in a quasi-facetious sort of way. Part of me is way to cynical to believe in karma. But I'd be lying if I said another little part of me thinks there's some voodoo mojo going on with the ancient Indian burial grounds under Reliant & the Astrodome. I don't believe in curses, but if I did, I would certainly believe Houston football teams suffer from at least one of them.
Something in my mind tells me that the Broncos win their division and we end up facing them at some point in the playoffs. I'd rather go against the Pats or Ravens, as well...but...it's that Manning thing.
Manning in the playoffs and Manning in the regular season are almost two completely different players. If that Broncos team keeps putting itself in gigantic holes every week that they have to claw out of I'm not feeling too bad about having to face him again in crunch time.
Maddict5
Hall of Fame
OJ Simpson was a helluva running back.
tut tut shame on you, he was found innocent of that as ray is with his legal troubles
