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Will someone explain why people hate T.O.???

Fiddy

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I dont and never will understand the critism of him. He goes out and gives it 100% on the game field and on the practice field. What else do you want??? We rip players for not going full speed or quitting on their team but every play T.O. plays puts all his energy into it. He run blocks, goes full speed on routes and never gives up on a play. Yeah, he has celebrations that turn off some people but he practices all day, every day and game day is his turn to act a kid and have some fun. I've yet to see someone get hurt by a celebration of him. Maybe Ray Lewis' feelings, but Ray does his stupid dance before the game has even started!!!! He still hasnt had a philly cheesesteak because it would ruin his diet. If you dont want T.O. to celebrate, then keep him from getting the ball.

Rarely does he ever get critized by teammates but he is still public enemy number one. I still dont see how he was being "selfish" and would be a "distraction" if he played in the Super Bowl. The Patriots couldnt stop him on one ankle. 9 catches for about 120 yards. 6 weeks removed from surgery. How do you not like the guy??? He said something along the lines of "If Favre played with a broken ankle, everyone would call him a warrior, but I do it and I am selfish." He isnt wrong. Most critized him for trying to rush back but if it wasnt for him, we may of witnessed the first shut out in Super Bowl history.

What else does he have to do to get people from bashing him???
 
I just read Terrell Owen's autobiography.....quite a story. I admire him as an athlete....
 
I don't blame him for rushing back to the SB, I understand why he did it. It's not everyday your playing at a SB and you might not get as lucky as the players on Pats in going 3 times (so far) and after your lil monologue Fiddy I actually like the guy and would choose him over Randy Moss anyday(now hes a distraction)
 
I personally have no beef with T.O., I think he's probably the second best receiver in the NFL, and I like the way he plays.

However, you don't have to look far to see why there are people who hate the guy. For those who don't like to see players trying to be "bigger than the game", T.O.'s cries for attention over his career have really caused problems. For instance, making the pose on the Dallas' Star in the center of the field, pulling out a sharpie in the endzone, b*tching out his offensive coordinator on the sidelines (that's a no-no that I actually consider a problem as well), and starting controversy with Jeff Garcia in San Fran. Just a hunch, but starting **** with the guy who's throwing you the football isn't a very bright idea. I didn't watch all too many of his games, but I remember a knock on him when he was with the 49ers was he WOULD give up on plays; stop blocking too early; not always give 100%.

I like him, he's a great athlete, but I can think of alot of reasons why others don't.
 
blockhead83 said:
However, you don't have to look far to see why there are people who hate the guy. For those who don't like to see players trying to be "bigger than the game", T.O.'s cries for attention over his career have really caused problems. Just a hunch, but starting **** with the guy who's throwing you the football isn't a very bright idea. I didn't watch all too many of his games, but I remember a knock on him when he was with the 49ers was he WOULD give up on plays; stop blocking too early; not always give 100%
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You hit the nail on the head! A selfish, self centered player, IMHO! It's all about TO! He was never a team player when he was with the Niners. All his whining and attention getting antics were distracting to the rest of the team. I can guarantee you, if the Eagles had won the SB, TO would have taken all the credit! The Eagles made it through the playoffs without TO, I believe they would have done just as well, if not better, without him, in the SB. We will never know!
 
The Eagles are my second favorite team after the Texans. I was really disappointed when he ended up with the Ravens. I was overjoyed when the trade was rescended. Is T.O. irritating at times? Absolutely. Does he do everything he can on the field to win? Absolutely.

Cut the guy some slack. It isn't like he participated in murdering some guys then wins Defensive Player of the Year.
 
MarleyFan said:
Because he was on the 49ers!
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I, for one, was ELATED when he left the NINERS! He gave my second fav team a bad rep long enough! SO LONG, FAREWELL, don't let the door hit you in the a** TO!!!!!!
 
could be cause he's a selfish player, shows off, runs his mouth, wears spandex :thud:. Its just when ya hear him talk he never talks about the TEAM he always talks about T.O, and i'm sorry but TO didnt get the eagles to the superbowl it was the OL, DL, QB, WRs, LBs, CBs, SS, FS, RB, FB, and he fails to mention any of them when speaking about the "team" so its like TO is the only guy on the team !
 
blockhead83 said:
For instance, making the pose on the Dallas' Star in the center of the field, pulling out a sharpie in the endzone...
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That never happens if someone can stop him. Stop him and you wont hear from him.

blockhead83 said:
b*tching out his offensive coordinator on the sidelines (that's a no-no that I actually consider a problem as well), and starting controversy with Jeff Garcia in San Fran. Just a hunch, but starting **** with the guy who's throwing you the football isn't a very bright idea.
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He wants the ball. You should of gotten the ball in San Fran: Tia Streets or T.O.??? He was yelling at his offensive coordinator cause he knows when he has the ball in his hands, his team as the best shot of winning. I will agree that the Jeff Garcia thing is silly....

TexansTrueFan said:
could be cause he's a selfish player, shows off, runs his mouth, wears spandex :thud:. Its just when ya hear him talk he never talks about the TEAM he always talks about T.O, and i'm sorry but TO didnt get the eagles to the superbowl it was the OL, DL, QB, WRs, LBs, CBs, SS, FS, RB, FB, and he fails to mention any of them when speaking about the "team" so its like TO is the only guy on the team !
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Not buying this selfish comment. Who should have the ball: FredEx, Pinkston or T.O.???

Do you like Ray Lewis TexansTrueFan because he shows off BEFORE THE GAME HAS EVEN STARTED!!!

What's wrong with a little confidence??? He knows he is the best WR in the NFL and if you dont stop him, he is going to let you hear about it. If you want to stop his yapping, stop him on the field.

And so what if he likes to wear tights...

What do you mean he fails to mention the team. He praised everyone after they won the NFC Championship game and promised Philly that they would win it without him...

"We hang together as much as anybody, and he's a good guy," said Eagles receiver Freddie Mitchell. "There's a misconception about him being this selfish player who is hard to get along with. He's a good guy. People don't really know him or understand him. The guy's a competitor. He works hard. He gets a lot of heat because he's in the limelight. But it's not like he's shooting people or anything."
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http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8002989/1

SheTexan said:
I, for one, was ELATED when he left the NINERS! He gave my second fav team a bad rep long enough! SO LONG, FAREWELL, don't let the door hit you in the a** TO!!!!!!
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And now the 49ers have the first pick in the draft...
 
George Teague knocked Terrell on his butt and I believe he got fined. I know for him it was worth it though.

I don't know. I've always said that Texans fans that think Terrell is so great might not think so if he disrespected the logo here.
I think his plan is to do whatever he can to make sure he's on the top of ESPN highlight film even if it's not football related.

And as for the Niners they weren't going to be great forever. He burned too many bridges there. He'll do the same wherever he goes because it's just his nature.
 
WWJD said:
George Teague knocked Terrell on his butt and I believe he got fined. I know for him it was worth it though.
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Teague could of saved himself a 50 yard sprint if he would of stopped T.O. from getting into the endzone...
 
I don't remember the play other than the stupid way Terrell acted.

Teague was a safety. It might not have even been his play. I don't know.

But it was sure funny when he knocked Terrell about 3 yards off the star. And he said it was worth the fine.

It's too bad Terrell can't just be great on football skills alone and let that be. I saw Jerry Rice play a few times and he was magnificent and he didn't act like that. He just played and excelled. He didn't try all the silliness.

AJ does the same. Just play. You don't have to make a big deal out of it. People will see you're great if you are.
 
I actually like T.O. He's a little mouthy, but the guys stays out of trouble with the law, does his job and wants to win. I'v seen several interviews where he's just trying to explain himself and say things are overblown. He's no Dion, but he likes to have a good time playing the game. Other than the games and the trash talking he does there, he's kept his nose clean. That should be the mark that players set. Play the game, do your best, and have a little fun, don't hurt people and stay clean. Gee that sounds like all of my friends.
 
Fiddy said:
That never happens if someone can stop him. Stop him and you wont hear from him.
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Oh, so because he's a highly talented receiver, it gives him the right to act like a childish self-centered punk, huh? Sorry, that doesn't fly with me.

Owens is paid to be a receiver and catch the ball. He's not paid to berate the coaches on the sideline. He's not paid to sign autographs in the middle of the game. He's not paid to try and call the plays and coach the quarterbacks. He just needs to shut his pie-hole, and keep it shut, and he needs to stop his never-ending search for the opportunity to make a spectacle out of himself.

If he would just play football, I wouldn't have a problem with him. But as it is, I was rooting on Sunday for either Mike Vrabel or Tedy Bruschi, or Willie McGinest to snap the punk's leg off. And just because he played better then anyone expected made absolutely no difference to me. He's still a punk.
 
ok first of all fiddy ray lewis shows intensity, he dont pull out shapries, our make big scenes off the field. Intensity/dancing is good, but what T.O does is showboating for himself not the team. Ray wanted to bring Deion in to help the team, owens wants the ball thrown his way to help his stats. You cant compare a PLAYER like Ray Lewis (Defense) to a "character" like Terrell Owens (offense). Bad comparison Fiddy !
 
TexansTrueFan said:
ok first of all fiddy ray lewis shows intensity, he dont pull out shapries, our make big scenes off the field. Intensity/dancing is good, but what T.O does is showboating for himself not the team. Ray wanted to bring Deion in to help the team, owens wants the ball thrown his way to help his stats. You cant compare a PLAYER like Ray Lewis (Defense) to a "character" like Terrell Owens (offense). Bad comparison Fiddy !
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Yeah I cant compare Lewis to T.O. becuase as SESupergenius and T.O. himself pointed out, T.O doesnt have a murder charge to his name but Lewis does. And I classify being caught up in a murder trail a big scene off the field. Owens wants the ball thrown his way to help his team win. Freddie Mitchell, Todd Pinkston or T.O. Which one would you rather throw the ball, too???

Yes, Lewis brought in Dieon but who did he want first??? That's right. He wanted T.O.


(T.O. dances too: The pom-poms)

Marcus said:
Oh, so because he's a highly talented receiver, it gives him the right to act like a childish self-centered punk, huh? Sorry, that doesn't fly with me.
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How is he self-centered???

WWJD: What did you think of Irvin??? He had a big mouth. Also, didnt Emmitt Smith mimick T.O. and go to the star??? Shouldnt of Smith been the "better" man and stayed out of it???
 
I love to watch TO. He came to play on Sunday to help the Eagles in their quest for the super bowl. He proved to his doctors that he could do it. I have heard people compare him with Randy Moss as far as their reputation goes. There is no comparison. Moss dogs it. TO gives 110% at all times when on the field. My top three TO TD celebrations:

1 The autograph - Didn't he give the football to a kid in the stands?
2 The cell phone
3 The Pom Poms (Classic)
 
Boxscore said:
I love to watch TO. He came to play on Sunday to help the Eagles in their quest for the super bowl. He proved to his doctors that he could do it. I have heard people compare him with Randy Moss as far as their reputation goes. There is no comparison. Moss dogs it. TO gives 110% at all times when on the field. My top three TO TD celebrations:

1 The autograph - Didn't he give the football to a kid in the stands?
2 The cell phone
3 The Pom Poms (Classic)
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The cell phone was Joe Horn...
 
The cell phone was Joe Horn...
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I was waiting for someone to correct me on that. I was unsure. OK, I will put the celebration on the Star of the cowgirls in the top three as a replacement!
 
Let's break this down!!!

Seattle hates him because of the "Sharpe" incident.
Oakland hates him beacause he was a "niner"
San Francisco hates him, because he left, and then they went down the tubes.
Baltimore hates him because he refused to play there, and the Ray Lewis dance in the end zone.
Dallas hates him because he disrespected the "Star"
Cleveland hates him because he called Jeff Garcia gay, and then showed the team up in there own crib.
And now Green Bay probably hates him because he refered to Brett Favre when he was complaining after the Super Bowl.

So that is about 20 million people right there that do not like TO.
 
I like Michael Irvin as a player but not the gesturing, etc. I always prefered that he just play.

I think Emmitt was just making a point. I'd prefer he not have done that but you know it was his star....not Terrell's. Now if he went to Philly and had acted that way I'd have been disappointed. But he never did so it's a moot point. Compared to Terrell Michael on the field was a choir boy.
 
The cowboy star is not Emmitt's It stands for the classy organization of yesteryear and the unclassy (cowgirls) of present.
 
Boxscore said:
The cowboy star is not Emmitt's It stands for the classy organization of yesteryear and the unclassy (cowgirls) of present.
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That star is Emmitt's and every other player wearing that uniform past and present.
 
I am one Cowboys fan that like T.O. I think he is funny, spontaneous, original, and one heck of a football player. He also seems to be the kind of guy who would be the life of a party. He is only football player that I can laugh before he opens his mouth because I know the entertainment is coming. However, I believe that is his unique personality and I can respect him for his as much as I do Marvin Harrison for his more quiet laid back approach to his game style.

As for Michael Irvin, of course I liked him. Although there were many days I could only shake my head and continue to pray for him, but there was something about him beyond the bad behavior that I thought was genuinely good.

Many years ago I read Jack Tatum's book, and some of the Raider stories were pure comedy to put it mildly. Football antics are significantly tame today.
 
Fiddy said:
Yeah I cant compare Lewis to T.O. becuase as SESupergenius and T.O. himself pointed out, T.O doesnt have a murder charge to his name but Lewis does. And I classify being caught up in a murder trail a big scene off the field. Owens wants the ball thrown his way to help his team win. Freddie Mitchell, Todd Pinkston or T.O. Which one would you rather throw the ball, too???

Yes, Lewis brought in Dieon but who did he want first??? That's right. He wanted T.O.


(T.O. dances too: The pom-poms)

How is he self-centered???

WWJD: What did you think of Irvin??? He had a big mouth. Also, didnt Emmitt Smith mimick T.O. and go to the star??? Shouldnt of Smith been the "better" man and stayed out of it???
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oh thats right T.O hasnt killed anyone yet my bad like that REALLY has ANYTHING to do with football !?!?!?!? You changed the whole subject Fiddy, T.O is a show off, has a loud mouth, is incosiderate, likes to write his name to much, and should prolly join the cheerleading squad, OUR make fun of Ray Lewis. While Ray Lewis does his normal Dance that does not affend anyone. BIG DIFFERENCES FIDDY !
 
TexansTrueFan said:
oh thats right T.O hasnt killed anyone yet my bad like that REALLY has ANYTHING to do with football !?!?!?!? You changed the whole subject Fiddy, T.O is a show off, has a loud mouth, is incosiderate, likes to write his name to much, and should prolly join the cheerleading squad, OUR make fun of Ray Lewis. While Ray Lewis does his normal Dance that does not affend anyone. BIG DIFFERENCES FIDDY !
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Look at your original statement:
You cant compare a PLAYER like Ray Lewis (Defense) to a "character" like Terrell Owens (offense). Bad comparison Fiddy !
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You said T.O. was a character. That's why I brought up the murder charge. Yes he is a character, but T.O. was never hit with a murder charge and Ray Lewis seems to be loved by everyone.

What does Ray Lewis' dance have to do with football??? Why must he come out and do a dance??? Why doesnt he wait until the game starts and when he makes a play??? And if you dont think Lewis dance doesnt offend anyone, what about Ray Lewis doing Joey Porter's "kick" when Porter was sidelined with a gunshot wound in his butt two years ago??? Isnt that being incosiderate??? T.O. has never made fun of someone, when that someone has a gunshot wound. And if Ray Lewis' dance isnt bad why cant T.O. copy it??? Ray Lewis talks after every play, even when he isnt a part of it. How do you not classify him as a big mouth??? And everytime Lewis makes a tackle, he is up and running and talking. Why cant T.O. do something when he scores a TD???
 
With that line of thinking, players should be able to do whatever they want when they score a touchdown. Go ahead and act like a five year old. Tear off your helmet. Whip out signs. Delay the game. Why not, if people don't like it, all they have to do is keep you out of the end zone.

I don't have a problem with TD celebrations, but some do because they feel like the player is trying to take more credit than they have coming for a big play. You don't often see the offensive lineman run into the endzone and pantomime moon the crowd after blocking for a long pass play.

I have no big beef with TD celebrations, but I do have a problem with the ideology of 'Hey, if you can't stop me from getting in the end zone I'll exploit it to do whatever the h3ll I want. Rubbing success in other's faces is a great way to promote the game.'
 
Boxscore, thanks for coming over to the the Eagles MB and bringing this thread to my attention. I'll admit I was worried about TO from his reputation. After watching this guy play for my Eagles this year I have nothing but respect for him. I saw him play every game and I'll tell you all this guy wants to do is win. He is a true warrior. Sorry SheTex but anyone that doesn't like TO just hasn't seen what this guy brought to the Eagles table. He brought a swagger that I haven't seen in a long time. It's not your fault, you didn't see all of the Eagles games, like I did, this year, and with no reservations, I want him on my team.
 
Boxscore said:
I love to watch TO. He came to play on Sunday to help the Eagles in their quest for the super bowl. He proved to his doctors that he could do it. I have heard people compare him with Randy Moss as far as their reputation goes. There is no comparison. Moss dogs it. TO gives 110% at all times when on the field. My top three TO TD celebrations:

1 The autograph - Didn't he give the football to a kid in the stands?
2 The cell phone
3 The Pom Poms (Classic)
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He gave the ball to his financial advisor. The only thing that I like about TO is: He is the ultimate competitor.

I don't like TO because:
1. He is a cry baby when he doesnt get his way. not getteing balls thrown to him, cry. Get traded to a team other than the Eagles , cry.
2. I hate show boats
3. I hate players that think they are bigger than the team.
 
My beef:

After he pulled off one of the greatest performances in superbowl history (and loses) he goes off on the media after the game talking about how no one believed in him, he proved everybody wrong. Well, what does it matter when you didn't win? That's why you play the game, and he chose to take that stage and turn it into a soapbox about himself. If you let people respect you, they will. However, if you tell them to respect you, they will only hate you more.

I loved the performance, I was sorry I doubted him, but him playing in that game wasn't more important than winning it.
 
Ihategeeks said:
The 49ers did not have the right to trade him.
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Yes they did. The 49ers had him under contract. Remember he had planned to void his contract and become a FA. Then his agent did not file the paperwork.
Since he was under contract the 49ers had the right to trade him to anybody they pleased. :violin
 
ColdSteelBlue said:
Yes they did. The 49ers had him under contract. Remember he had planned to void his contract and become a FA. Then his agent did not file the paperwork.
Since he was under contract the 49ers had the right to trade him to anybody they pleased. :violin
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What you fail to mention is that the league sent out a fax moving the deadline up. This is the equivalent to having a contract on an apartment through March 1st and your landlord sending you a fax telling you that it has been changed to February 15th. The contract overrides some one-sided fax. The league had no ground to stand on. That is why the league avoided the arbitration hearing, rescended the trade, and asked Baltimore and San Francisco to bite their lips. Did you notice that there was almost no noise out of Baltimore and San Fran? They both lost in this deal.

Did the agent make this situation more difficult than it should have been? Sure. Was the league negligent as well? I'll let the outcome decide that for you.
 
Youngstown Colt said:
My beef:

After he pulled off one of the greatest performances in superbowl history (and loses) he goes off on the media after the game talking about how no one believed in him, he proved everybody wrong. Well, what does it matter when you didn't win? That's why you play the game, and he chose to take that stage and turn it into a soapbox about himself. If you let people respect you, they will. However, if you tell them to respect you, they will only hate you more.

I loved the performance, I was sorry I doubted him, but him playing in that game wasn't more important than winning it.
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Good point i failed to mention to fiddy. Why brag about his own performance if he was a TEAM player, sure he had a nice game but for what ? He is selfish as a person, but still a very good athlete !
 
Terrell Owens is probably one of the most misunderstood players in football. In a post in another thread I made note of the fact that football is a game of passion and those that dominate the game are more likely to be the same ones that exhibit it on the field. Intensity can be either explosive (T.O., Moss, Sapp) or implosive (Andre Johnson, Brett Favre, Marvin Harrison, Tory Holt). There is always an amount of fire within the elite players. How they choose to display it is up to them. In the case of T.O., he is an inferno that aims to make his team better. He's the type of player I can appreciate on my team.
 
Grid said:
am i the only guy that saw the T.O. interview on inside the NFL earlier this year?
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That has to be one of the worst shows ever. When I had HBO, I hated that show. It got even worse when Cris Collinsworth was added to it.
 
The NINERS would have been rock bottom this year with or without TO. They happened to have the sorriest coach in the NFL, excuse me HAD, thank goodness he is gone. Now they can rebuild starting with the first draft pick. All elite teams fall at some point in time. TO was a chicken-s who just wanted out because he knew he would not get media attention on the Niner stage. It's a matter of opinion as to who is the BEST WR in the NFL, I will not argue that issue simply because everyone has their own opinion, and they are entitled to that.

To Harryj, Boxscore, and all the fans who think TO was the savior for the Eagles, I for one, think the Eagles could have done it this year without him. JMO!
 
it may not be a great show.. but the interview with T.O. was very telling of the kind of person he is.

I dont like him.
 
It's my understanding he has an autobiography out also. I'll never read it but I guess you can get the real Terrell from his own mouth by reading that.

You're right..the Niners were going to fall eventually and actually I think they began some of that when their ownership changed and they just went thru a complete overhaul. It'll happen to the Patriots one day too. Nobody stays great forever.
 
TexansTrueFan said:
Good point i failed to mention to fiddy. Why brag about his own performance if he was a TEAM player, sure he had a nice game but for what ? He is selfish as a person, but still a very good athlete !
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Please answer my last post:

http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showpost.php?p=81156&postcount=32


He brought up his performance cause everyone in the media before the game was saying that he was "selfish" for playing. He brought it up to point out that he wasnt selfish for playing and he knew what he was doing.

What was most impressive about Owens' performance was what the Pro Bowl receiver said after the game. During the post game press conference, Owens said that one of the reasons he was so anxious to play the game was because he didn't want to let down his teammates.
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Yep, he is selfish... :rolleyes:

http://www.dailycampus.com/news/2005/02/09/Sports/A.Changed.Owens-857628.shtml
 
If someone like Brett Favre were to come back from an injury to risk his future in the superbowl, he would be called a hero. TO should be thought of the same way as he risked his future in football to play and and to not let down his teammates.

I wish we had him in Battle red!
 
And if someone like Brett Favre came out and called teammates gay, and threw around accusations about murder cases, the public perception wouldn't be so grand. TO is a great player and an egomaniac. Brett is just a great player. That's why the media is being so evil when it comes to a guy who constantly bashed Jeff Garcia for absolutely no reason.

I'm tired of hearing that comparison. TO heard that from an ESPN personality and then decided to use it like he thought it up himself.

Why does it matter why TO went off talking about how no one believed in him? The team lost and he still made it about him, and still wanted to rub it in that he did good. He's a great teammate until things go wrong, then all of a sudden you have a supposedly gay quarterback.
 
Youngstown Colt said:
And if someone like Brett Favre came out and called teammates gay, and threw around accusations about murder cases, the public perception wouldn't be so grand. TO is a great player and an egomaniac. Brett is just a great player. That's why the media is being so evil when it comes to a guy who constantly bashed Jeff Garcia for absolutely no reason.
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Yeah. T.O talks. Favre gets addicted to pain killers.

(so there is no misconception, I do like Favre)
 
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