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Porky said:
It's not rocket science...yes mix in the short passes as mentioned, but if they want to win, that run game HAS to be at least halfway decent or they have very little chance to win.
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Right, I'm not disagreeing with you. The run game has to be a big part of the game plan from here on out. We're just not good at it. I'm just saying we need to be smarter about mixing in the short passing game. Expanding the field horizontally should open up the big game for Nico.
 
Lucky said:
Good thing the NFL counts the entire season and not just the last 3 games.

The Texans are a playoff team. Not just because they won a weak division. They have the 5th best record in the AFC. A playoff team by any metric. Look, I'm not betting the Texans to win the Super Bowl. I would only bet three teams if I were to bet. Chiefs, Lions, and Ravens. But the games still have to be played. And as long as the Texans are playing, they have the same chance as most of the teams.
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And they attained that record with 5 wins of 6 against our pathetic division rivals.
 
Brutal? Six games against Colts, Titans, and Jax. Bears were worse than I thought, and we barely squeaked it out. Patriots? Coach was fired. Bad team. Jets are horrible. They fired everyone but the limo driver, and we got our jaws knocked off. Cowboys? Let's not even go there.

All in all, against this group of bad teams, Texans were 8-2.

The other six teams were Bills, Dolphins, Ravens, Chiefs, Vikings, Packers, and Lions.

Against these quality opponents, the Texans were 2-5, and were absolutely mauled and embarrassed in two of them.

The Texans are a very average team right now. Let's be real about it. That doesn't mean next year won't be a lot better, but as of today, this is a mediocre football team thriving in an inferior division.
 
Porky said:
Brutal? Six games against Colts, Titans, and Jax. Bears were worse than I thought, and we barely squeaked it out. Patriots? Coach was fired. Bad team. Jets are horrible. They fired everyone but the limo driver, and we got our jaws knocked off. Cowboys? Let's not even go there.

All in all, against this group of bad teams, Texans were 8-2.

The other six teams were Bills, Dolphins, Ravens, Chiefs, Vikings, Packers, and Lions.

Against these quality opponents, the Texans were 2-5, and were absolutely mauled and embarrassed in two of them.

The Texans are a very average team right now. Let's be real about it. That doesn't mean next year won't be a lot better, but as of today, this is a mediocre football team thriving in an inferior division.
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Can you do the same for the Chargers' schedule?
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
Texans have given up the highest “pressure rate” and allowed 10 more sacks than the Chargers.

But Chargers have allowed more QB hits. 62 to 58. Defenses have hit Herbert. But he has not gotten happy feet.

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The Texans also have passed the ball more often than the Chargers. The key to controlling the pass rush for the Bolts has been to not pass the ball that often (28th in attempts).

This will be Greg Roman's 11th season as an NFL OC. His offenses have led the league in fewest INTs 4 of those 11 seasons, including this year. The Chargers aren't going to beat themselves. Unless they are forced to become one dimensional. The Texans must shutdown the Chargers running game. They are 9-0 when rushing for more than 100 yards. 2-6 when held below 100.
 
Porky said:
Brutal? Six games against Colts, Titans, and Jax. Bears were worse than I thought, and we barely squeaked it out. Patriots? Coach was fired. Bad team. Jets are horrible. They fired everyone but the limo driver, and we got our jaws knocked off. Cowboys? Let's not even go there.

All in all, against this group of bad teams, Texans were 8-2.

The other six teams were Bills, Dolphins, Ravens, Chiefs, Vikings, Packers, and Lions.

Against these quality opponents, the Texans were 2-5, and were absolutely mauled and embarrassed in two of them.

The Texans are a very average team right now. Let's be real about it. That doesn't mean next year won't be a lot better, but as of today, this is a mediocre football team thriving in an inferior division.
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All I’ll say is that the Giants were pretty average going into the playoffs once, even had a negative point differential IIRC, and then rolled off a little winning streak to a title.

I never thought the Texans played up to their potential this whole season except for a couple of instances, one being their 1st half against the Lions. So I know they’re capable. Whether they can put that together for a game, a string of games, in the next month is the question that needs an answer.

The likely answer is probably not, but you never know. If they are to do so they will need CJ to shed the sophomore slump or whatever and play a lot better than he has for most of this season. Yeah the run game needs to be effective, yeah the OL blah blah blah, the OC yadda yadda, but it starts and ends with CJ. He’s got to play up to at least last year’s level for them to have a legit shot at this.
 
thunderkyss said:
Can you do the same for the Chargers' schedule?
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6 games against Chiefs, Raiders, and Broncos. They were 4 and 2 against those foes. They beat the Raiders x2, no big accomplishment there. Aiden O'Connell, need we say more. Beat the Broncos x2, and lost to the Chiefs x2.
4 games against the NFC South. Only lost to the Bucs. Beat the Falcons, Panthers (week 2) and the Saints. All pretty much garbage teams. Not talking about Baker and the Bucs.
4 games against the AFC North, tough division. Chargers beat the Browns and the Bengals, the two weaker teams of that division.
Then they had the Titans, a win. They had the Cardinals, a loss. They had the Patriots, a win.
And the times the Chargers scored more than 30 points was against the Bengals, Broncos, Patriots and Raiders.
I'm just not overly impressed with the Chargers. Sure the Chiefs are tough and Ravens and Steelers.
So ya, that schedule was easier to navigate than the Texans was. imo
 
Lucky said:
Everyone plays stinker teams. The Chargers faced the NFC South + the Cardinals. They played New England and the Titans, too. The Raiders twice. A softer schedule than the Texans. No one is suggesting the Chargers don't belong.
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They also have more wins than the Texans. But most importantly, they walk the walk. In other words, they look the part and pass the eyeball test when I watch them. They are a legit playoff team. The Texans wouldn't sniff the playoffs in several other divisions. If it quacks, and has webbed feet, it's a duck. I see it with my own two eyes.

Week one - Raiders 22 - 10 win
Panthers 26 to 3 win
Saints 26 to 8 win
Browns 27 to 10 win
Titans 27 to 17 win
Patriots 40 to 7 win

Those are all undeniably convincing wins, led by a quarterback who is quietly having his best year and limits mistakes.

How many convincing wins did the Texans have this year? Maybe NE and Dallas. That's about it.

They got to 10 wins the hard way. The Chargers got to 11, and curb-stomped a number of lesser opponents along the way. These two teams are not the same.

The Texans can win on any given Saturday, and I'm rooting hard for them. Being at home should help. But in the overall bigger picture for 2024, the Texans are the inferior team here, and pretty much any other matchup except maybe Pittsburgh, and that's iffy.
 
Porky said:
They also have more wins than the Texans. But most importantly, they walk the walk. In other words, they look the part and pass the eyeball test when I watch them. They are a legit playoff team. The Texans wouldn't sniff the playoffs in several other divisions. If it quacks, and has webbed feet, it's a duck. I see it with my own two eyes.

Week one - Raiders 22 - 10 win
Panthers 26 to 3 win
Saints 26 to 8 win
Browns 27 to 10 win
Titans 27 to 17 win
Patriots 40 to 7 win

Those are all undeniably convincing wins, led by a quarterback who is quietly having his best year and limits mistakes.

How many convincing wins did the Texans have this year? Maybe NE and Dallas. That's about it.

They got to 10 wins the hard way. The Chargers got to 11, and curb-stomped a number of lesser opponents along the way. These two teams are not the same.

The Texans can win on any given Saturday, and I'm rooting hard for them. Being at home should help. But in the overall bigger picture for 2024, the Texans are the inferior team here, and pretty much any other matchup except maybe Pittsburgh, and that's iffy.
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So the Chargers beat bad teams convincingly. That’s the ticket?

The Texans beat an AFC division winner.

The Chargers had the chance and didn’t.

The Texans couldn’t put it together against the Vikings, Chiefs or Ravens. The Texans hung with the Packers and the Lions but lost to them. Texans beat the Bills. That’s 6 different playoff teams. Only two blew them out - Vikings and Ravens.

The only playoff team the Chargers beat was the 7th seed Broncos. The only other playoff teams they played they lost to which were against the Bucs, Steelers and Chiefs twice.

Just going by playoff teams in their schedule the Texans had the harder schedule.

Going by results the Texans did better against playoff teams too.

I am willing to bet the Texans played teams with better records.

The only thing we can say is that the Chargers may be more consistent offensively which we all know is the biggest weakness of the Texans.
 
The Texans have a lot of defensive starters playing together for the first time this year.

I bet Herbert throws two INTs and finishes with less than 200 yards thrown.

If the offense shows up the defense will also hold Dobbins to less than 100 total yards.

If this defense gets rest during the game it will be a bad game for the Chargers.

Herbert hasn’t exactly been clutch in the playoffs either.

Mentally Stroud has to be dialed in. The OL protect. Better play calling. Win.
 
Do you guys remember Denzel Perryman? Looks like he was one of ours last season. I think he was a plant. Drafted by the Chargers, spied around the league a little bit, & low & behold he's back over there & they "make" the playoffs.
 
paycheck71 said:
I think most people are picking the Chargers because of the way they’ve played late in the season vs how the Texans played late in the season. That’s all there’s to it. It’s anyone’s game, and I agree with many posters above
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I would have liked to see the Chargers run through Miami, KC, & Baltimore in 11 days while the Texans feast on the Broncos, Patriots, & Raiders.
 
Porky said:
Brutal? Six games against Colts, Titans, and Jax. Bears were worse than I thought, and we barely squeaked it out. Patriots? Coach was fired. Bad team. Jets are horrible. They fired everyone but the limo driver, and we got our jaws knocked off. Cowboys? Let's not even go there.

All in all, against this group of bad teams, Texans were 8-2.

The other six teams were Bills, Dolphins, Ravens, Chiefs, Vikings, Packers, and Lions.

Against these quality opponents, the Texans were 2-5, and were absolutely mauled and embarrassed in two of them.

The Texans are a very average team right now. Let's be real about it. That doesn't mean next year won't be a lot better, but as of today, this is a mediocre football team thriving in an inferior division.
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Glaas half full

They beat the Dolphins, Bills and played the Lions/Packers down to the last play of the game with a subpar OL. The OL is playing much better now so this team can beat anybody.

I dont put as much stock in the Ravens loss as most around here do, they were worn out after playing their 3rd game in 11 days and being honest CJ sucked that game. I dont expect him to suck in the playoffs.
 
steelbtexan said:
Glaas half full

They beat the Dolphins, Bills and played the Lions/Packers down to the last play of the game with a subpar OL. The OL is playing much better now so this team can beat anybody.

I dont put as much stock in the Ravens loss as most around here do, they were worn out after playing their 3rd game in 11 days and being honest CJ sucked that game. I dont expect him to suck in the playoffs.
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Wasn’t the Ravens on their 3rd game in 11 days too? They played on the, 15 21 and 25 .
 
steelbtexan said:
Glaas half full

They beat the Dolphins, Bills and played the Lions/Packers down to the last play of the game with a subpar OL. The OL is playing much better now so this team can beat anybody.

I dont put as much stock in the Ravens loss as most around here do, they were worn out after playing their 3rd game in 11 days and being honest CJ sucked that game. I dont expect him to suck in the playoffs.
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So they both played a compressed schedule but only one team looked fresh as a daisy while traveling, while the other home team was worn out? Makes total sense to anyone who is a lover of nonsense.
 
I don't think we can expect much from them given the o-line issues we've seen all season but i think we are very evenly matched with the Chargers and we can beat them. & sure we beat the bills earlier this season, but they were decimated by injuries and we got them at home which wouldn't be the case if by some miracle the Steelers beat the Ravens. The Chiefs are about as vulnerable as they're gonna get & just based on how we played each of the 3 top seeds, we got the most favorable match up we could've possibly asked for if a deep playoff run is to occur..................however improbable that is....this of couse assumes that the Bills handle the Broncos in which case the Broncos go to KC which would mean we'd have to go to Baltimore.................. again...........& I ain't trying to see those dudes until we absolutely have to after our last meeting..:bag:
 
Porky said:
So they both played a compressed schedule but only one team looked fresh as a daisy while traveling, while the other home team was worn out? Makes total sense to anyone who is a lover of nonsense.
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Chargers only had one short week , a Thursday night game at home, then had 9 days off before looking fresh as a daisy while traveling to face a woeful Patriots team. Their short week was coming off a 40-17 shellacking at home by the Buccaneers. If you can't see the difference I don't know what to tell you.
 
steelbtexan said:
Glaas half full

They beat the Dolphins, Bills and played the Lions/Packers down to the last play of the game with a subpar OL. The OL is playing much better now so this team can beat anybody.

I dont put as much stock in the Ravens loss as most around here do, they were worn out after playing their 3rd game in 11 days and being honest CJ sucked that game. I dont expect him to suck in the playoffs.
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Texansballer74 said:
Wasn’t the Ravens on their 3rd game in 11 days too? They played on the, 15 21 and 25 .
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thunderkyss said:
"They" being the Ravens? Because the Ravens played on the 15, 21, & 25 plus they had to fly to Houston on the 24
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Porky said:
So they both played a compressed schedule but only one team looked fresh as a daisy while traveling, while the other home team was worn out? Makes total sense to anyone who is a lover of nonsense.
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All true fellas, but i tend to side with Porky here. I wanna say the Chiefs, Ravens & Steelers all played similar compressed schedules around that same time too....The difference seemed to be more about veteran team vs young team. The veteran teams like the Ravens and Chiefs handled it well..The Texans as a young team didn't. The only reason we didn't go winless in that timeframe like the Steelers is b/c we snuck by a quickly fading Dolphins team. Fact is, that stretch of our schedule showed us that this team still has a little ways to go before they can compete for lombardis.
 
Mr teX said:
All true fellas, but i tend to side with Porky here. I wanna say the Chiefs, Ravens & Steelers all played similar compressed schedules around that same time too....The difference seemed to be more about veteran team vs young team. The veteran teams like the Ravens and Chiefs handled it well..The Texans as a young team didn't. The only reason we didn't go winless in that timeframe like the Steelers is b/c we snuck by a quickly fading Dolphins team. Fact is, that stretch of our schedule showed us that this team still has a little ways to go before they can compete for lombardis.
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They're a season or 2 away from being able to compete for Lombardi's and that's if CJ gets back to where he was last yr.
 
Porky said:
So they both played a compressed schedule but only one team looked fresh as a daisy while traveling, while the other home team was worn out? Makes total sense to anyone who is a lover of nonsense.
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One team is a team that's been put through the rigors over the yrs and the other team has not been.
 
Mr teX said:
i think we are very evenly matched with the Chargers and we can beat them.
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Technically we're both young teams. & with "young" teams there are going to be ups & downs. You won't know until you know, but the Chargers look like they're on an up swing, if not about to crest. The Texans are definitely in a trough, hopefully they're climbing their way out.

More continuity they have from year to year there will be less ups & downs. Hopefully.
 
All the talking heads are not giving the Texans a chance in this one, it's almost like they shouldn't show up to the stadium in Saturday. :lol:

I got a Charger fan at work talking smack, even GMFB is dissing our team. I love it, bring on all the haters and doubters and keep overlooking this team, I love the underdog role. All the pressure is on the chargers at this point. I think there is a good chance the Texans play a lot better than what most are predicting, I think we win and Harbaugh is left standing mouth agape on the sideline a la Dom Capers trying to catch flies.
I can't wait. :texflag:
 
austins23 said:
That’s what I’m talking about. It wasn’t a knock on Harbaugh. If this team still had the coach from last year with the same personnel, is it favored? No
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If you're talking about Brandon Staley they wouldn't be favored because they probably wouldn't have made the playoffs. That dude was the worst in-game decision making coach I think I've ever seen. And no, I haven't forgotten about David Culley.
 
Speedy said:
If you're talking about Brandon Staley they wouldn't be favored because they probably wouldn't have made the playoffs. That dude was the worst in-game decision making coach I think I've ever seen. And no, I haven't forgotten about David Culley.
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I’m just saying… the talent on the chargers is actually less than what Staley had. Coaching matters for sure…
But I honestly don’t think the chargers are that much better than our team
 
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