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Why is LaRon Landry's stock falling so much?

well then I guess ESPN dosent know what they are talking about bc they have brady quinn falling to us. humm
 
texans83 said:
well then I guess ESPN dosent know what they are talking about bc they have brady quinn falling to us. humm
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No, your absolutely right. ESPN knows EXACTLY what they're talking about. What was I thinking ?
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
No, your absolutely right. ESPN knows EXACTLY what they're talking about. What was I thinking ?
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All I am saying is that about 85% of the mocks I look at has JR at number 1 and Quinn falling at number 2. Even more so now they have BQ falling all the way to Carolina.
 
texans83 said:
Man I feel like im talking to my little sister or something, is that all you can come up with. Im bringing up facts and all you have to say is " ok ? " yea....
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You quoted something that I wrote and you had no idea about the context, so therefore you look like a jackass.

When I said Quinn was still the number one QB on everyones board I was being sarcastic....


Get a life.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
You quoted something that I wrote and you had no idea about the context, so therefore you look like a jackass.

When I said Quinn was still the number one QB on everyones board I was being sarcastic....


Get a life.
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Sure buddy!!! what ever helps you sleep at night and as for me getting a life maybe you need to just go and talk to someone so they can help with all your anger issues.... This is a freakin blog bro if you cant handle it then get dont get on
 
kastofsna said:
lol quinn IS still #1 on most teams' boards.
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This is exactly what I meant way back when I made the original comment....


They say Russel, you say Quin....I say Young, you say Leinart...

Who knows....We'll all find out when the first QB gets drafted....
 
kastofsna said:
lol quinn IS still #1 on most teams' boards.
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Mike Mayock, a former second teired DB with NFLnetwork, has Brady Quinn @ 2. Jamarcus at 1. Troy didn't make his top five. Kolb did though. Not that his rankings matter. All the guy does is sit and watch game tapes of guys. I think Jamarcus is as close as Al Davis gets to his wet dream QB. I doubt, he'll be stuborn about it. Might just kill the guy if he does let Jamarcus float on by. I Don't know if Kubiak likes Quinn or not. I think right now they are just finished rating people. I'm getting that from the leaked...we want a pick for if the price is right stuff coming out now. They get a pick for Carr...i just don't know. My wife would love it for sure. Kastranostra has him rated pretty high. After DC, it is kinda like once bitten twice shy. Plummer to me is Chriss Chandler II. If that's the route we're taking....I don't think we draft Quinn. He picks a prospect latter in the draft.
I look at the rooster, I just don't see that Quinn gives them an instant fix. If the Texans draft him, we're rebuilding. I guess that doesn't appeal to me. Another three year rebuilding plan is nothing to get excited about. Rooster is pretty barren of tallent. Yuck.
 
threetoedpete said:
Mike Mayock, a former second teired DB with NFLnetwork, has Brady Quinn @ 2. Jamarcus at 1. Troy didn't make his top five. Kolb did though. Not that his rankings matter. All the guy does is sit and watch game tapes of guys. I think Jamarcus is as close as Al Davis gets to his wet dream QB. I doubt, he'll be stuborn about it. Might just kill the guy if he does let Jamarcus float on by. I Don't know if Kubiak likes Quinn or not. I think right now they are just finished rating people. I'm getting that from the leaked...we want a pick for if the price is right stuff coming out now. They get a pick for Carr...i just don't know. My wife would love it for sure. Kastrnostra has him rated pretty high. After Dc is kinda like once bitten twice shy. Plummer to me is Chriss Chandler II. If that's the route we're taking....I don't think we draft Quinn. He picks a prospect latter in the draft.
I look at the rooster, I just don't see that Quinn gives them an instant fix. If the Texans draft him, we're rebuilding. I guess that doesn't appeal to me. Another three year plan. Rooster is pretty barren. Yuck.
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Here is how I see the QBs falling off the board on April 28th:

1 - JaMarcus Russell to Oakland
8 - Brady Quinn to Houston
3rd round - Troy Smith to Cleveland

*If Russell somehow slips past Oakland, the I expect Cleveland to take Russell, who has an excellent relationship with Browns GM Phil Savage.*

*Troy Smith, in that scenario, would get some tough competition from Drew Stanton to be the Detroit Lions 3rd round selection.*
 
OK what if we do sign plummer for 2-3 yrs wouldnt you agree that that would deff be enough time to breed a good qb to take control, say quinn. Im not saying I want this to happen I just think we look at all the posibilities. Who knows he may be abother tom brady. You all have to rel,izd that quinn takes shots down filed and that is something that this team has lacked on for a while. That being said mistakes and INT are going to happen. You also have to look at ND didnt have very much of a defense to back brady when he did have the bad games. The team rested on his shoulders and when he crumbled the team crumbled. I do think we should look at the posibility that he may fall to us and that we might take him. He is smart and Kubes deff has to have a smart QB and he can do the roll out play action pass. I just really think we need to evaluate everyone including Quinn. thats all
 
If Quinn Falls to us, I hope the Texans are licking their chops.....






He should make excellent trade bait.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
If Quinn Falls to us, I hope the Texans are licking their chops.....






He should make excellent trade bait.
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Excellent point. Brady would give us a ton of leverage to trade down. Although only 2 of the next 6 teams would look at a QB.

Miami, and Carolina. The other 4 are ATL, STL, SF, BUFF.
 
kastofsna said:
you know what al davis would like better than jamarcus russell?

a veteran.

they'll get byron leftwich.
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A strong armed veteran....where is he going to get that at this off season ?
And don't say David Carr...that's just foolish. Carr can't function behind the Texans o-line. He's going to crater early and often behind the train wreck Oakland has for an o-line. Russel moves better, throws more acuratly, and is just plain smarter. Be a good combo though, Calvin Johnson and Leftwich. Al Davis wants to live to see another ring...he picks Russel. Not a gimpy legged reject. And you know Leftwich's leg is not cornic because ?
 
texans83 said:
OK what if we do sign plummer for 2-3 yrs wouldnt you agree that that would deff be enough time to breed a good qb to take control, say quinn. Im not saying I want this to happen I just think we look at all the posibilities. Who knows he may be abother tom brady. You all have to rel,izd that quinn takes shots down filed and that is something that this team has lacked on for a while. That being said mistakes and INT are going to happen. You also have to look at ND didnt have very much of a defense to back brady when he did have the bad games. The team rested on his shoulders and when he crumbled the team crumbled. I do think we should look at the posibility that he may fall to us and that we might take him. He is smart and Kubes deff has to have a smart QB and he can do the roll out play action pass. I just really think we need to evaluate everyone including Quinn. thats all
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I'm not going to dismiss this out of hand anymore. What I will say is that Plummer, much like Chriss Chandler with the Oilers, was put in the very best postion to flourish with his skill set that he possibly could in Denver. Like I said if Plummer is brought in we're in a rebuilding mode.

The only thing that distrubs me about Quinn..it's not the big game issue...it's the arm strength issue. I'm sure that Quinn did a great job with the tallent that Notre Dame put on the field this year. And I believe that few could have done any better. A good barameter is look where all the N.D. guys end up going in the draft. I just personaly feel he is more of a Montana type prospect than an Elway prospect. I don't think he has a natural NFL arm. He is going to have to be on time and on target with every throw...just like Montana was. Is he smart enough to do this? I believe so. Is he smart enough to do this behind our current tallent on the roster...nut uh. DC II.

Going to take some time. Just hope If we take him he gets a fairer shot than DC got in the tallent evaluation department on this board. They gotta have a line. Doesn't have to be number one picks across the board on the line..but they gotta find a left tackle. Your telling me by taking Quinn at the 8...because you can bet he won't get past nine...that we're willing as fans to wait and give Kubes & Smith the time they need to turn this thing of ours around.

What was the Justice Quote this morning ?

(on DC) "He's a sad story on many levels. He was the franchise's first pick and untill this year, never really had a chance to succeed. The texan's never protected him or coached him up, never put enough tallent around him. No Matter. Carr still should have shown more. "

See this is what I'm posting about exactly this kind of excrement. Exactly what did they do this season above and beyond the first four ? I mean really, by pasing the Best OLT on the board for a DE prospect. Selecting two prospects in the thrid round...bring in a couple of guys on their last legs . Jezzzz. Just like they patched worked the last five years on the o-line . I mean Really Richard...258 sacks. No o-line pick beyond the fifty...once...Good Grief Justice...you are a jackinapes. Go practice your pederastic love for VY somewhere's else Justice. Get over it already. The guy bearly got over 50 % this year for goodness sakes. I know in your love drunk stupor that is extrinsic. But the guy still is a train wreck throwing the football. At least let the guy move into the top ten before you bend down and begin to blow.

And we're going to do it agian in all probablity this draft as well. But if Quinn drops to eight and Kubiack and Smith like the guy, I'm on board. It'll take another draft to shore up the line, but we've waited this long. We got the front office now to get it right.
 
threetoedpete said:
A strong armed veteran....where is he going to get that at this off season ?
And don't say David Carr...that's just foolish. Carr can't function behind the Texans o-line. He's going to crater early and often behind the train wreck Oakland has for an o-line. Russel moves better, throws more acuratly, and is just plain smarter. Be a good combo though, Calvin Johnson and Leftwich. Al Davis wants to live to see another ring...he picks Russel. Not a gimpy legged reject. And you know Leftwich's leg is not cornic because ?
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see, the problem, is that you said he would take russell if he wants another ring. that's 3-5 years IF he turns out to not suck (which i doubt), and al davis will NEVER admit to being a rebuilding team. especially since he has a top 3 defense. same old al davis. he's going to get a veteran QB, most likely a move that sends moss or porter to jacksonville for byron leftwich, he'll draft calvin johnson, and la de da. you've been around a long time threetoed, you can figure it out.
 
For as I'm concerned kastofnsa, there is a margin of inevitablity here. I see the Leftwhich's leg as the bigger ****(illeagle dice game) shoot. There is no way to know that Jamacus will fail...maybe if... What I do know is the guy has the hotest arm since Farve. And I think that will make all the difference in thier decidsion making process. The guy is tailor made for that offense. Not say CJ is not worth the risk of passing him by for. I just don't think Al passes his big chance to seal his legacy. Jamrcus could be putting stuff in the Raider trophy cases long after Al Davis is dead and gone. I don't think his ego could pass that thought by. Just me. We'll see. Your free agent draft scenario fits Al's past moves for sure.
 
as far as qb play goes, I am placing my money firmly on the opposite side of what Kast says...if he says brady quinn is the number 1 qb, I'd bet the farm on jamarcus russell.
 
threetoedpete said:
For as I'm concerned kastofnsa, there is a margin of inevitablity here. I see the Leftwhich's leg as the bigger ****(illeagle dice game) shoot. There is no way to know that Jamacus will fail...maybe if... What I do know is the guy has the hotest arm since Farve. And I think that will make all the difference in thier decidsion making process. The guy is tailor made for that offense. Not say CJ is not worth the risk of passing him by for. I just don't think Al passes his big chance to seal his legacy. Jamrcus could be putting stuff in the Raider trophy cases long after Al Davis is dead and gone. I don't think his ego could pass that thought by. Just me. We'll see. Your free agent draft scenario fits Al's past moves for sure.
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russell is not this amazing prospect. he's not carson palmer. it's not like davis is saying "welp, i got one foot in the grave, better draft this russell guy so i can be remembered for this." there's far mroe chance he'll be a bust than a star, and i'm sure he realizes that. which is why he's avoided drafting QB's this high.

calvin johnson or adrian peterson. now THERE are some players davis can use as a legacy. he wants those "once in a lifetime" players. there they are. not russell.
 
kastofsna said:
russell is not this amazing prospect. he's not carson palmer. it's not like davis is saying "welp, i got one foot in the grave, better draft this russell guy so i can be remembered for this." there's far mroe chance he'll be a bust than a star, and i'm sure he realizes that. which is why he's avoided drafting QB's this high.

calvin johnson or adrian peterson. now THERE are some players davis can use as a legacy. he wants those "once in a lifetime" players. there they are. not russell.
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I totally see Russell busting before I see Peterson or Johnson (calvin) being a bust. although i hope he doesnt cuz he could be a really fun qb to watch.
 
kastofsna said:
wow that's a very good point that no one has ever considered before.
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Just thought I would throw that in there, I know everone has said it but I mean what is he going to be worth if he is hurt? Nata. Face it guys who ever we pick at 8 he will start and he will contribute unless its BQ and im not sure if that would be the best pick for us right now. Maybe in a couple years from now but he deff wouldnt help this team next year.
 
anyone can get hurt. peterson's injuries don't look to keep him off the field on a regular basis. not like when cadillac williams had a bunch of little nagging injuries in college. shoulda saw that one coming.
 
kastofsna said:
anyone can get hurt. peterson's injuries don't look to keep him off the field on a regular basis. not like when cadillac williams had a bunch of little nagging injuries in college. shoulda saw that one coming.
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It dosent even matter AP wont be there at #8
 
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