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Why are Texan Fans so Down on Dominick Davis

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Caz

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I am not a Texan fan by any means. I am a bonifide Pittsburgh Steelers fan. I began watching the Texans a little on Directv when Dom Capers took over being that he was the coach I always thought the Steelers should of kept. Turns out that wasn't the case.

Anyway, so I am a huge fantasy football player. I caught DD before anyone and I was sure he was a steal. He didn't disapoint me in the least bit. I continued to watch DD even when he wasn't a starter on my fantasy football team because he was a gift to watch. The Texans slowly became my second favorite team to watch. I mean come on you have David Carr, Andre Johnson, but neither of them play as hard as DD and thats saying a lot considering the 2 I just compared him with. The fact of the matter is the way DD goes the Texans go. People talk about DD fumbling problems. He fumbles 4 times in the first 2 or 3 games last year which was bad, but he didn't lose the ball once after that the rest of the year. He was a beast.

My question is how can fans who's team found a hidden gem like that, an overacheiver, and be so disloyal to him. Worst yet how can a team be so disloyal to the hardest working player on the team. DD has it all. He can run through you, around you, or beat you with his hands.

Please Houston if you don't want him, send him to the Steelers. God know our fragile backs will be done in the next 2 years or less. He is by far the best back in the NFL, but he is the closest thing to LT or Holmes you will get without actually getting them.
 
Caz said:
I am not a Texan fan by any means. I am a bonifide Pittsburgh Steelers fan. I began watching the Texans a little on Directv when Dom Capers took over being that he was the coach I always thought the Steelers should of kept. Turns out that wasn't the case.

Anyway, so I am a huge fantasy football player. I caught DD before anyone and I was sure he was a steal. He didn't disapoint me in the least bit. I continued to watch DD even when he wasn't a starter on my fantasy football team because he was a gift to watch. The Texans slowly became my second favorite team to watch. I mean come on you have David Carr, Andre Johnson, but neither of them play as hard as DD and thats saying a lot considering the 2 I just compared him with. The fact of the matter is the way DD goes the Texans go. People talk about DD fumbling problems. He fumbles 4 times in the first 2 or 3 games last year which was bad, but he didn't lose the ball once after that the rest of the year. He was a beast.

My question is how can fans who's team found a hidden gem like that, an overacheiver, and be so disloyal to him. Worst yet how can a team be so disloyal to the hardest working player on the team. DD has it all. He can run through you, around you, or beat you with his hands.

Please Houston if you don't want him, send him to the Steelers. God know our fragile backs will be done in the next 2 years or less. He is by far the best back in the NFL, but he is the closest thing to LT or Holmes you will get without actually getting them.
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In Texas it takes us a while to get over a fumble
 
Caz said:
I am not a Texan fan by any means. I am a bonifide Pittsburgh Steelers fan. I began watching the Texans a little on Directv when Dom Capers took over being that he was the coach I always thought the Steelers should of kept. Turns out that wasn't the case.

Anyway, so I am a huge fantasy football player. I caught DD before anyone and I was sure he was a steal. He didn't disapoint me in the least bit. I continued to watch DD even when he wasn't a starter on my fantasy football team because he was a gift to watch. The Texans slowly became my second favorite team to watch. I mean come on you have David Carr, Andre Johnson, but neither of them play as hard as DD and thats saying a lot considering the 2 I just compared him with. The fact of the matter is the way DD goes the Texans go. People talk about DD fumbling problems. He fumbles 4 times in the first 2 or 3 games last year which was bad, but he didn't lose the ball once after that the rest of the year. He was a beast.

My question is how can fans who's team found a hidden gem like that, an overacheiver, and be so disloyal to him. Worst yet how can a team be so disloyal to the hardest working player on the team. DD has it all. He can run through you, around you, or beat you with his hands.

Please Houston if you don't want him, send him to the Steelers. God know our fragile backs will be done in the next 2 years or less. He is by far the best back in the NFL, but he is the closest thing to LT or Holmes you will get without actually getting them.
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Hummmmmmmm!!!!!!! News to me! Last I read everyone was defending him to the hilt! As for as I know, Texan fans LOVE DD!! Don't know where you got your information.
 
Never!!!!!!!!!!! Are you kidding me? Send DD to the Steelers? Not in this lifetime my friend, because this coming season the Tremendous Trio (Carr, AirDre, and DD) are gonna kick some major booty!
 
Caz said:
People talk about DD fumbling problems. He fumbles 4 times in the first 2 or 3 games last year which was bad, but he didn't lose the ball once after that the rest of the year. He was a beast.
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I believe people were down on him, because we were the first team to lose to the Chargers last year. We definitely thought we had the upperhand in that matchup. When he fumbled the ball at the goaline it took alot of the wind out of the sails. I would just like to see the defense play solid all year so DD can astound all the DD doubters.
 
TheOgre said:
DD has quickness but lacks breakaway speed.
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Only a select few have all the tools. Other than that you gotta take the good(shiftiness, quickness, and great hands out of the backfield) with the bad (no breakaway speed, size, and fumbling{hpefully that has been resolved}).
 
TexansNeedRBin05 said:
Slow, Small, Fumbling Problem, and a Terrible Back! :crying:
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Fast, ok he is small, stopped fumbling after the 1st quarter of the season, and he looks like a pimp when he runs!!!
 
Hmmmm........The definition of a terriable back: Back to back 1000 yrd seasons without playing every game great hands usually loses the initial tackler oh yeah he is a terriable back we should cut him
 
I have stood next to Domanick many a time and at the doctor i measure 6'0 255. sortof short and stocky build. he is the exact same size as me. i have a picture of me and him and we are literally the exact same build. Im sure he is smallish for a RB in the NFL, but he isnt a small person. He looks alot smaller than he is on tv or at the games cuz hes in the huddle with 6'9 todd wade and seth wand. Also being smaller than the person trying to takle you has its advantages. Smaller target, harder to tackle. Hes gonna blowup next season. 1500+ RUSHING ALONE + whatever recieving yards David Carr wants to give him. heard it from THE BEAST first!!! :goodnight
 
SheTexan said:
Hummmmmmmm!!!!!!! News to me! Last I read everyone was defending him to the hilt! As for as I know, Texan fans LOVE DD!! Don't know where you got your information.
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You say everyone is defending him but just this post alone brings up the fact that everyone is defending him is inaccurate. Somebody else said it best, 2 consecutive 1000yd season with out playing the whole season is pretty impressive. As far as his size goes, it isn't everything. It may contribute a little to his injuries but his problem most likely is he is always looking over his shoulder because we are bringing in Morency to replace him, and now let look at Travis Henry who spend quite a few games on the bench before Maghee because he was hurt all the time. If my job is on the line I am not going to wait to be 100% off an injury either. Dom Capers makes no sense with trying to trade for Henry. I look at Bronco fans taking about how they have the greatest RB's in the world and debate all year with each who is better and if they are gonna run "2 stud buffalo's at once" behind Plummer. It never happens. Its always one featured back.

DD is taken for granted by a lot of people on this board and his coaching staff. The first quarter of last season is well over people. Look at the last part of the year what he did for you and what he is capable of. He is a great back and there are alot of teams that would glady take him off your hands.
 
What the heck? This post says we're down on Domanick Davis? Then I scroll down the post... what the heck... all this negativity on Domanick Davis? I don't get it. He's a cheap man's Priest Holmes... Marshall Faulk.

No, poster. I submit to you.... we LOVE DD.
 
When are you people going to realize he isn't small. Check the size of Holms and others. He is the same hieght as most and now weighs 220. He isn't slow, but he isn't fast either. Quick into the hole. Doesn't have the break away gear. Breaks tackles. Catchs as well as any back. Blocks and picks up the blitz as well as anyone. Other than the second gear, he is pretty complet.
 
Let's give him a full healthy season before we run him out. If he plays for around 85% of the season's snaps, and the passing game is OK, he should be at around 1800 yards.
If he is less than 1000 or he is too oft onjured, then we can look to trade him or release him.
 
pek281 said:
What the heck? This post says we're down on Domanick Davis? Then I scroll down the post... what the heck... all this negativity on Domanick Davis? I don't get it. He's a cheap man's Priest Holmes... Marshall Faulk.

No, poster. I submit to you.... we LOVE DD.
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There is a lot more DD supporters in here but if you look at an earlier post about Travis Henry coming there was quite a few post on how he would be a huge upgrade over any RB you guys have now. There was another post about Morency starting by mid season.

I read all that stuff. Like I said earlier I enjoy watching the Texans so they are the only other team besides the Steelers I follow. I just don't see what DD has done bad to warrent all these pick-ups and talk of him losing his job. He becomes a free agent after next year and thats the only thing I can think of that would remotely make sense on why they are picking up other players just incase they can't sign him to a long term deal. I hope Dom Capers didn't get stupider in his old age.

By the way, for the whole size arguement, I support the fact DD is the same size as Priest Holmes and acknowledge that. You can argue all day long about that and people don't care. The NFL and coaches got all the NFL fans believing bigger is better and thats all fans care about now. Not many starting RB's are above 5'11 which isn't a far cry from 5'9. But if the NFL says thats the way it is the fans will believe it.
 
Caz said:
You say everyone is defending him but just this post alone brings up the fact that everyone is defending him is inaccurate. Somebody else said it best, 2 consecutive 1000yd season with out playing the whole season is pretty impressive. As far as his size goes, it isn't everything. It may contribute a little to his injuries but his problem most likely is he is always looking over his shoulder because we are bringing in Morency to replace him, and now let look at Travis Henry who spend quite a few games on the bench before Maghee because he was hurt all the time. If my job is on the line I am not going to wait to be 100% off an injury either. Dom Capers makes no sense with trying to trade for Henry. I look at Bronco fans taking about how they have the greatest RB's in the world and debate all year with each who is better and if they are gonna run "2 stud buffalo's at once" behind Plummer. It never happens. Its always one featured back.

DD is taken for granted by a lot of people on this board and his coaching staff. The first quarter of last season is well over people. Look at the last part of the year what he did for you and what he is capable of. He is a great back and there are alot of teams that would glady take him off your hands.
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Capers and Co. have made the low draft pick DD there starting RB over Allen, Mack, Wells, Hollings and Morency. How that is taking DD for granted Im not sure. The fumble problems lasted more than a quarter and so have his injuries. DD fumbles in the first 2 games last year ended up costing the Texans there first trip to the playoffs. DD has yet to play a full season and Houston fans are tired of the "potential" tag. "Put up or shut up" seems to be the theme this year. I for 1 have always liked DD and think he does get undue criticism. Most notably when he was leading our team in receiving and yards after catch but the Texans were losing. Seems if he does well then the Texans are concentrating on him too much and not throwing down field enough. If DD is not getting the touches then the Texans are not utilizing all of there weapons. Suffice to say you can't please everyone. In general I think most Texans fans are happy with DD but yearn to see him live up to his potential. P.S. Im an old fart who remembers when the Steeler fans wanted Bradshaw gone so Im sure you understand.
 
The fans aren't "down" on DD. Fantasy football players tend to look at stat lines only and get stats confused with talent though. The Texans have a running system and Dom has done well in it. Personally, I don't think he is top tier talent.
 
Jwwillis said:
P.S. Im an old fart who remembers when the Steeler fans wanted Bradshaw gone so Im sure you understand.
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I feel ya there....lol.

What I mean about them taken him for granted is drafting Morency for some competition is one thing and I whole heartedly agree that the competition would be good for him. But why go after Henry? I don't think thats saying "here you go DD here someone to push you" as much as it is saying, "hey DD we are looking for a replacement for you".
 
DD is the sheite. Take a look at the Fantasy mock ups DD is a top 10 overall pick. I am sure that isnt because he is small, slow, or otherwise bad. Also remeber that DD would have had better stats in the first year if Mack didnt come in on 1st and goal situations.

http://fantasysports.yahoo.com/anal...060905&prov=yhoo&type=lgns&league=fantasy/nfl

The guys that think Henry is the answer are stupid. DD is a five tool RB. Those who dont like him are just tools. (NdNewRBin05 I am talking to you.) The beast is right 1500 yds+ running alone this year.
 
twinkletwinkle said:
DD is the sheite. Take a look at the Fantasy mock ups DD is a top 10 overall pick. I am sure that isnt becasue he is small slow, or otherwise

http://fantasysports.yahoo.com/anal...060905&prov=yhoo&type=lgns&league=fantasy/nfl

The guys that think Henry is the answer are stupid. DD is a five tool RB. Those who dont like him are just tools. (NdNewRBin05 I am talking to you.) The beast is right 1500 yds+ running alone this year.
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Fantasy football and your worth doesn't equate to regular football. I don't think many fans understand that anymore.
 
Caz said:
When did the paper post that? CBS sportsline just put it out there today.
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For some reason the media get the Titans and Texans confused. Everyone just ran with it. The retraction(s) are in the long thread titled "Texans (not) Interested in Trading for Henry"
 
Vinny said:
Fantasy football and your worth doesn't equate to regular football. I don't think many fans understand that anymore.
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I am not even looking at it as FF. I said thats how I got interested in watching the Texans. I don't base my opinion from FF. I watch him and he is a joy to watch. He blocks, catches, runs harder than most of the NFL (and by the way that may have been a factor in his fumbling problem), I never seen him caught from behind, I mean come on what more does the guys have to do.
 
My league gives points for wins and losses. So there.

Actually I understand what you are saying about FF being different that the real game. That said, DD is a top 5 back. The catching ability seals it for me. Did you watch Shuan Alexander's stonehands last year, DD has the running ability and can catch. Talk bad about stats guys all you want but the numbers dont lie, unless my accountant gets to'em first.
 
DD is a quality back and I don't think we can sit here and say that the coaches don't show him respect. None of us see what happens behind the seen. The fact that they drafted Morency does not show disrespect. DD has had some injury issues and it is managements job to build the best team, so at that point in the draft they selected the best available athlete.

As for size and speed, he is bigger and faster then Emmitt and look what he did.

IMO DD will be a huge producer for the Texans for many years to come.
 
I dont see how anyone can be upset with him or even think of replacing him. True, He may be short, doesnt have breakaway speed, fumbled acouple times, but all I see when I look at DD is a 4th round steal whos amassed 2219 rushing yards, 939 receiving yards, and 22 TDs in his first 2 years.
 
Some guys forget that last season he had a msall injury then when he came back it took him awhile but then he became the good back he was before the injury, and on most of his fumbles his knee was down, Capers never challenges the bad calls, which his why his challenging percentage is low.

Any way Davis still got over 1000yds last year. He will be even better this year.
 
Caz said:
There is a lot more DD supporters in here but if you look at an earlier post about Travis Henry coming there was quite a few post on how he would be a huge upgrade over any RB you guys have now. There was another post about Morency starting by mid season.

I read all that stuff. Like I said earlier I enjoy watching the Texans so they are the only other team besides the Steelers I follow. I just don't see what DD has done bad to warrent all these pick-ups and talk of him losing his job. He becomes a free agent after next year and thats the only thing I can think of that would remotely make sense on why they are picking up other players just incase they can't sign him to a long term deal. I hope Dom Capers didn't get stupider in his old age.

By the way, for the whole size arguement, I support the fact DD is the same size as Priest Holmes and acknowledge that. You can argue all day long about that and people don't care. The NFL and coaches got all the NFL fans believing bigger is better and thats all fans care about now. Not many starting RB's are above 5'11 which isn't a far cry from 5'9. But if the NFL says thats the way it is the fans will believe it.
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You have to realize that ANYTIME there is a decent FA on the market, alot of posters on this board say we should pick them up. I dont know why, but they do. Heck, there was even a "pick up Korean Robinson" thread... Most posters on this board are sane, but some of them im not too sure about. Oh, and most of us LOVE having DD! He is a combo yardage monster!
 
Hulk75 said:
Hey, just watch out for Jason Anderson this guy would have been a very good back for us last year if he would not have broke his ankle agianst Tampa in the pre-season.

Surprise of the year Jason Anderson.
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yeah i remember him,he was alright, considering he was running against 3rd and 4th string players. but i doubt he will have a chance to even make the texans roster.
 
Davis37 said:
You have to realize that ANYTIME there is a decent FA on the market, alot of posters on this board say we should pick them up. I dont know why, but they do. Heck, there was even a "pick up Korean Robinson" thread... Most posters on this board are sane, but some of them im not too sure about. Oh, and most of us LOVE having DD! He is a combo yardage monster!
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I supportd the idea of picking up Henry becuase I thought it could be a good cheap pickup becuase every team needs 2 good backs. We could keep him a couple of years and then not resign him. At that point Morency will be ready to go and the DD-Morency combo would lead us down the field.
 
bigtex77 said:
People said the same thing about Emmitt Smith, I think he did alright for himself.
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You took the words right outta my mouth!! E. Smith didn't have break a way speed but I rarely ever saw him being caught from behind. They said, "too small, not big enough, not fast enough". Now look. He's the best complete running back to ever play the game and I think DD is cut from the same mold. Keep runnin' DD!! :headbang:
 
Dionysus22 said:
You took the words right outta my mouth!! E. Smith didn't have break a way speed but I rarely ever saw him being caught from behind. They said, "too small, not big enough, not fast enough". Now look. He's the best complete running back to ever play the game and I think DD is cut from the same mold. Keep runnin' DD!! :headbang:
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Let us not forget that Smith had arguably one of the best O-Lines ever or at least thru the 90's. Not to discount what he has done. It took him doing great things. On the other hand our O-Line is probaly one the worst since our teams inception (that is to be somewhat expected). So if he can do 80% of what Smith did at this point in his career, then great. Smith also rarely got injured for multiple games @ a time and never really had a fumbling issue, two things DD seems to have had happen his first 2 years in the league. Hopefully it seems the fumbling thing has gone away. texanpride
 
I dont think anyone (well..not many) dislike DD here.. we are just honest about things.

We are ALL happy to have DD and we dont want him to go ANYWHERE.. but there are certain things about DD that you HAVE to acknowledge.

1. he isnt fast.. hes quick.. but he isnt going to outdistance a saftey once he breaks into the secondary.

2. he isnt durable. he has had alot of injury problems.. but luckily no major ones. So, if he cant toughen up (not an insult.. some people just arent made to take 30+ carries a game) then he cannot be an every down back for us.

3. he does not play well when he isnt at 100%. He didnt fully recover from his minor injuries till the last few games of the season.. and that is when he got alot of his yards.


Those are the negatives.. the positives are.

1. He is small and shifty.. but still powerful. He WILL make you miss.. and he WILL make you work to take him down.

2. He has great vision and is great at finding the hole.

3. he has an awesome attitude and work ethic.

4. if we could find another good RB to share carries with him.. he would be an awesome RB in a multiple RB offense.

5. he has great hands and can pick up yards after the catch.




So.. im very grateful to have him.. but he DOES have downsides at the moment.. and is not a top 10 RB.
 
Grid said:
I dont think anyone (well..not many) dislike DD here.. we are just honest about things.

We are ALL happy to have DD and we dont want him to go ANYWHERE.. but there are certain things about DD that you HAVE to acknowledge.

1. he isnt fast.. hes quick.. but he isnt going to outdistance a saftey once he breaks into the secondary.

2. he isnt durable. he has had alot of injury problems.. but luckily no major ones. So, if he cant toughen up (not an insult.. some people just arent made to take 30+ carries a game) then he cannot be an every down back for us.

3. he does not play well when he isnt at 100%. He didnt fully recover from his minor injuries till the last few games of the season.. and that is when he got alot of his yards.


Those are the negatives.. the positives are.

1. He is small and shifty.. but still powerful. He WILL make you miss.. and he WILL make you work to take him down.

2. He has great vision and is great at finding the hole.

3. he has an awesome attitude and work ethic.

4. if we could find another good RB to share carries with him.. he would be an awesome RB in a multiple RB offense.

5. he has great hands and can pick up yards after the catch.




So.. im very grateful to have him.. but he DOES have downsides at the moment.. and is not a top 10 RB.
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He isnt even Top 40
 
TexansNeedRBin05 said:
He isnt even Top 40
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OK look--DD apologized for when he fumbled the football in training camp and knocked the ice cream out of your hand--get over it, this is pathetic.
 
I look at this board everyday and read what ya'll say. I usually don't post anything really, but caz made a good point on Domanick Davis. I have seen alot of people talk down on DD and some defend him. I really like what DD has done with the Texans in his young career and will hopefully keep doing what he is doing or better than that. If the Texans dont offer him a good contract then I would think that the texans are taking him for granted. DD has shown what he can do and thats with a below average O-line. Imagine what he can do with an above average O-line. If you ever have doubts of DD or are down on him just remember week 15 against the jaguars.
 
I think most of us "DD-knockers" (except RBin05) would say we were really just trying to be realistic. Realistic in saying he's good but not great, realistic in saying his body is not capable of standing up to the punishment involved in an HOF running back career (or anything like it), realistic in saying he's an adequate solution but that we would not object to seeing the position upgraded by the addition of superior talent or more even distribution of carries among several such good-but-not-great backs.
 
Str8tupg42k1 said:
I look at this board everyday and read what ya'll say. I usually don't post anything really, but caz made a good point on Domanick Davis. I have seen alot of people talk down on DD and some defend him. I really like what DD has done with the Texans in his young career and will hopefully keep doing what he is doing or better than that. If the Texans dont offer him a good contract then I would think that the texans are taking him for granted. DD has shown what he can do and thats with a below average O-line. Imagine what he can do with an above average O-line. If you ever have doubts of DD or are down on him just remember week 15 against the jaguars.
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I think DD is going to do a great job this year. I just wanted to remind you that the Texans OL is rated rather high in relation to run-blocking; however, the pass-blocking is definitely below-average. They have the sacks allowed to prove it. DD has the possibility of getting 1300 yds rushing and 400 yds recieving. I still contend that he COULD be the first Houston Texan named a HOFer.
 
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