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Who would be your #1 choice?

Who would be your #1 pick?

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ObsiWan said:
Now that we've had combine fever die down and there have been some significant F/A moves, I wonder what the poll would look like if taken today...?

I'm still for Robinson/Matthews.
Although picking Bridgewater wouldn't have me running to jump off a ledge.
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There is eight guys that wouldn't have me jumping off a bridge. Clowney and Robinson have the most upside to me. I actually think Robinson will end up the best player to come out of this draft.
 
The biggest hole on this team is RT. I want Robinson but I would still be pretty happy with Matthews. None of the qbs separate themselves enough from each other and none seem worthy of a number 1 pick and maybe not even top 10 pick. Wr just seems like a waste of a number 1 pick with such glaring needs at other positions. Clowney would be ok now since the departure of Smith and Mitchell but he kind of scares me even though he has all the measurable. Heart is the ? on him. Drafting OT will help whatever qb OB puts out on the field. OL was awful last year. Lets fix it and draft a qb (Jimmy Garoppolo, Zach Mettenberger, or A.J. McCarron) in the 2nd. I would go all defense after that except I would draft OG somewhere from round 4-6.

So basically I am saying with the 1st round pick the Texans need to go with a big ugly. Offense or defense. Robinson looks like he is our best sure thing in that department. Trading down is another option but less likely. If the Texans absolutely are bent on getting a qb with the 1st pick then I hope it is Manziel.
 
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Four weeks ago I began developing my defense-centric mock with Barr as my first selection. Two weeks later I modified it with Mack as my selection at 1-1. When I did this poll, I was just being a bit of a contrarian and voted for Manziel. If I had a do over, I'd vote Mack to be consistent with my mock.
 
I'm proud to remain unchanged going Greg Robinson as the best prospect in the draft, best prospect in fact since Andrew Luck. Nothing changed tape has been in for months, go with the biggest freak of nature, gonna have to search wide & far for impact player @ QB position I fear..... may have to revisit Tajh Boyd 3rd rd. & hope he turns a Russel Wilson.
 
Clowney or Robinson.

The thought of signing Wilfork and having Clowney and Watt in the front 7 is very appealing.
 
I'm still where I was. I think Watkins is going to be the best player coming out of this draft. So that's who I'd pick.

That doesn't help us much.

After that if I decided to pick who would probably help our team more, I'd select Robinson or Matthews.

I'm not feeling these QBs or these DE/LBs.
 
I like Robinson, Clowney and Watkins. I believe all three will be difference makers. Next tier is Mack, Matthews, Evans and Donald. If we can trade down and get any of those 7 and extra picks then I'd be ecstatic.

We need impact players and I'm not feeling any of the QBs in the top 10 picks. While we don't really need a WR and some are saying why are you pimping Aaron Donald for the Texans, I actually like him as an OLB (call me insane)...I believe we have to take the best football player available when we pick.

Bortles has the measurables, but I just didn't see a guy I would take at 1-1 in the bowl game or any other film. TB is OK, but I'm not seeing him at #1, maybe in the 10-20 range. Johnny Manziel I love, but I can't see him at 1-1. If we trade back twice and end in the 8-12 range, he would bring a lot of excitement, passion and swagger to our offense...all things we need. I'm just not sure he's Bob's kinda QB.

The safe pick is probably Robinson, put him a RT now and groom him to replace Brown eventually. Clowney could be a Willie McG kind of player in a Pat's defense. It would be fun to see Vrabel and Kollar fight to see who gets him. Watkins is electric and adding him to our current WRs would make us very potent. He becomes AJ replacement down the road.
 
The more I watch Bridgewater, the more I like him. I'm serious when I say he's probably the most NFL ready prospect in this draft. He can make all the throws and he's fearless in throwing into tight windows. Bridgewater is an effective runner in that he runs with a purpose. Which is to keep the play alive and move the chains.

I mentioned in the Bortles thread that I liked Blake because he's a battler. He is. Watch Bridgewater in the UConn game when he was a soph. He and the team struggled all day. But came up with a 92 yard drive at the end of regulation to tie the score. Was carried off the field with a knee injury in the 1st ot. Came back in the 2nd ot with a td pass to tie the score. It didn't have a happy ending, but that game showed a lot to me of Bridgewater's character.
 
Film study: A detailed look at the Texans' potential No. 1 QB picks
Two local college defensive coordinators – who have more than 50 combined years of coaching, including stints in the NFL, Southeastern and Big 12 Conferences -- recently opened their film rooms to the Houston Chronicle, providing a detailed look at how they countered, attacked and mostly tried to survive Bridgewater, Bortles and Manziel.
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Teddy Bridgewater

Gibbs got Bortles and Bridgewater at the perfect time. The late-season Nov. 9 and 16 American Athletic Conference road matchups weren't ideal for the Cougars, who dropped from a season-best six games above .500 to 7-3. But Gibbs had more than two months' worth of game film as he prepared for the duo and the Cougars' defense..
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Blake Bortles

Gibbs turned to Penn State – former home of new Texans coach Bill O'Brien – in the attempt to decipher Bortles.

On Sept. 14, Central Florida pulled off a surprising 34-31 victory against O'Brien's Nittany Lions in State College, Pa. Five games later, Bortles' Knights hosted the Cougars in Orlando, Fla. Gibbs borrowed a Penn State blitz to attack Bortles and the Cougars defensive coordinator entered a Nov. 9 matchup believing his gutsy defense could also surprise. "I thought we could pick the ball off from Bortles a couple times," Gibbs said...
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Johnny Manziel

Thurmond has devoted more than 30 years of his life to college football. Rice's defensive coordinator has never seen anyone – on the field or on film – like Manziel.

Thurmond rolled two tapes to prove it. The first, Thurmond turned to when he..
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http://www.houstonchronicle.com/spo...t-the-Texans-5318260.php?t=b9e1e82440d8ff4dd2
 
Lucky said:
The more I watch Bridgewater, the more I like him. I'm serious when I say he's probably the most NFL ready prospect in this draft.
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His most impressive throws are darts into tight coverage.... but they are few & far between. When I'm looking for "all the throws" I'm expecting to see quick outs, out routes in general, fades along the sideline, deep posts, as well as a plethora of throws to the middle of the field; slants, deep slants, deep crossers, post routes, etc...

I did not chart Teddy's throws, nor any of the other QBs, but there is a lack of out routes in just about all of them. Teddy in particular, I get the feeling he mostly throws curl routes, & comebacks outside the hashes. Slants & shallow crossers to the middle, some comebacks.

As far as being pro ready, or the most pro ready, it's difficult for me to say that about any QB playing in the ACC, the Big East even (unless it were basketball).

A good prospect no doubt. The best prospect, maybe. He is most probably going to have a nice NFL career. I'm thinking along the lines of Matthew Stafford, especially with the receivers we've got (assuming Andre has a couple of more top of the league performances left in him). Someone said Matt Ryan the other day, I can see that as well.

But I still do not see him as an elite talent, or someone we can pass elite talent on.
 
thunderkyss said:
His most impressive throws are darts into tight coverage.... but they are few & far between. When I'm looking for "all the throws" I'm expecting to see quick outs, out routes in general, fades along the sideline, deep posts, as well as a plethora of throws to the middle of the field; slants, deep slants, deep crossers, post routes, etc...

I did not chart Teddy's throws, nor any of the other QBs, but there is a lack of out routes in just about all of them. Teddy in particular, I get the feeling he mostly throws curl routes, & comebacks outside the hashes. Slants & shallow crossers to the middle, some comebacks.

As far as being pro ready, or the most pro ready, it's difficult for me to say that about any QB playing in the ACC, the Big East even (unless it were basketball).

A good prospect no doubt. The best prospect, maybe. He is most probably going to have a nice NFL career. I'm thinking along the lines of Matthew Stafford, especially with the receivers we've got (assuming Andre has a couple of more top of the league performances left in him). Someone said Matt Ryan the other day, I can see that as well.

But I still do not see him as an elite talent, or someone we can pass elite talent on.
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Do you really see us being in a position to pass on a QB in the Stafford/Ryan caliber if that's what our staff really believes about any of these guys? I don't see it.
 
thunderkyss said:
I'm thinking along the lines of Matthew Stafford, especially with the receivers we've got (assuming Andre has a couple of more top of the league performances left in him). Someone said Matt Ryan the other day, I can see that as well.

But I still do not see him as an elite talent, or someone we can pass elite talent on.
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We are so worlds apart on this, it's not even funny. And I'm not talking about the evaluation of TB or BB.

If Matt Ryan or Matthew Stafford were the QBs we were talking about here, then we'd HAVE to take one of them. Those are two QBs that you can build an offense around and be very successful with for years to come.

My hesitation with the QBs is that I'm not convinced they're up to that level.

If OB is, then he should take one of them.
 
Ryan said:
Do you really see us being in a position to pass on a QB in the Stafford/Ryan caliber if that's what our staff really believes about any of these guys? I don't see it.
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Yes, because I think McCarron, Murray, & Fales to be of the same caliber.

The Pencil Neck said:
We are so worlds apart on this, it's not even funny. And I'm not talking about the evaluation of TB or BB.

If Matt Ryan or Matthew Stafford were the QBs we were talking about here, then we'd HAVE to take one of them. Those are two QBs that you can build an offense around and be very successful with for years to come.

My hesitation with the QBs is that I'm not convinced they're up to that level.

If OB is, then he should take one of them.
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I said probably. If I were convinced that one of them will I'd agree, we have to take one. But I'm not. I've got a list of 6 that I believe will probably attain that level of success. I won't draft a QB in the top 5, passing on an elite talent, when 3 QBs likely to achieve the same success will be available at 2-1.

This is a deep QB class. Just like we've been saying since last off-season. No Andrew Lucks, but a whole lot of Staffords.
 
Hah, we just keep dancing this same dance in the same circle in thread after thread. I won't bite on this one though.

bckey said:
The biggest hole on this team is RT.
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Interesting... I could have sworn I saw something different when watching the games last year. Definitely a need though.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
And again, that's where we differ.

I don't see these guys as a whole lot of Staffords because I think Stafford is a helluva lot better than you seem to be giving him credit for being.

I see this crop as being a whole bunch of Brady Quinn and John David Booty.
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I'm with you. TK seems to be taking anyone who is not a dead lock and throwing them into one big "probable" pile and considering everyone in the pile equal. I'll take 90% probable over 5% probable.
 
thunderkyss said:
His most impressive throws are darts into tight coverage.... but they are few & far between. When I'm looking for "all the throws" I'm expecting to see quick outs, out routes in general, fades along the sideline, deep posts, as well as a plethora of throws to the middle of the field; slants, deep slants, deep crossers, post routes, etc.....
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I would take another look, because those are exactly the throws Bridgewater makes.
 
Playoffs said:
Not Bridgewater, not for me.
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The top 2 in this draft are the only ones I think have a legitimate shot of NOT being in that group. But I'm not sure it's a great shot.

Of the QBs, it's Bridgewater or Bortles with Bridgewater having the best shot at being a great QB.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
And again, that's where we differ.

I don't see these guys as a whole lot of Staffords because I think Stafford is a helluva lot better than you seem to be giving him credit for being.

I see this crop as being a whole bunch of Brady Quinn and John David Booty.
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If this is a Quinn, Booty QB class then drafting a QB 1-1 should be out of the question.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
The top 2 in this draft are the only ones I think have a legitimate shot of NOT being in that group. But I'm not sure it's a great shot.

Of the QBs, it's Bridgewater or Bortles with Bridgewater having the best shot at being a great QB.
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Actually, even though I'm pulling for Bridgewater, I think Manziel could be the greatest of this draft class. He could also be the absolute worst, which is what makes me cross his name off at 1-1.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
And again, that's where we differ.

I don't see these guys as a whole lot of Staffords because I think Stafford is a helluva lot better than you seem to be giving him credit for being.

I see this crop as being a whole bunch of Brady Quinn and John David Booty.
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Fair enough, we're in the same camp; Robinson, Watkins, Clowney, I'll even throw Mack in there.
 
I'm all in on Khalil Mack as BPA. I believe he's going to beast in the NFL. We need a QB but there are no #1s there. I think the braintrust have probably got a plan in place to address that. Things move slowly on Kirby Dr. ya know?
 
kiwitexansfan said:
There are currently four guys I am considering at 1:1

Bridgewater
Robinson
Mack
Clowney
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I think right now it is coming down to 3 scenarios for the front office:

1. Take bpa which most people believe to be Clowney.
2. Take the QB you like, which seems to be Bortles.
3. Trade down (maybe even for a "bad" offer).

Manziel and Bridgewater could be the guy with the second scenario, but everything we are reading points to Bortles. And it doesn`t seem that any other player stands out the way Clowney does.

Of those 3 scenarios I´d go with number 3 as long as we don`t drop out of the top 8 and get another first rounder (this year or next year) or at least an early second rounder back.
 
LikeMike said:
I think right now it is coming down to 3 scenarios for the front office:

1. Take bpa which most people believe to be Clowney.
2. Take the QB you like, which seems to be Bortles.
3. Trade down (maybe even for a "bad" offer).

Manziel and Bridgewater could be the guy with the second scenario, but everything we are reading points to Bortles. And it doesn`t seem that any other player stands out the way Clowney does.

Of those 3 scenarios I´d go with number 3 as long as we don`t drop out of the top 8 and get another first rounder (this year or next year) or at least an early second rounder back.
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I'm all for trading down for a bad offer.

I'm not inclined to be fussy or demanding.

I'd swap 1:1 for most teams 1, 2, 3
 
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