Who here looked at the schedule before the season and counted @ Ravens as a win?

[Vinny]

That's where it needs to be till we can prove that we'll do better.

Just because I've been lifting weights for 5 years doesn't mean that I should be benching 315 if I started at 90lbs, had a couple of accidents along the way, was doing it wrong for the first two years...

Kubiak should still go if we sneak in & are one & done. But I'd be happy to get into the play offs. I'll even go to the parade.

your goal isn't to keep lifting the same 90lbs for 6 years is it? Kubiak took a 6-10 team and 4 years later we have a 6-10 team. Wash, rinse, repeat.

What good is it to get beat like a drum in the playoffs just because your division is crappy and your team is just the least crappy team?

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

your goal isn't to keep lifting the same 90lbs for 6 years is it? Kubiak took a 6-10 team and 4 years later we have a 6-10 team. Wash, rinse, repeat.

What good is it to get beat like a drum in the playoffs just because your division is crappy and your team is just the least crappy team?

I want to be like the Packers , Saints , Pats , Steelers , and such . Not Arizona , Seattle , and KC .

I'm ready to whif for Griff .

 

[Runner]

3-3, 4-2.

All off-season people talk about the Texans being contenders, being elite, having a shot at the Super Bowl, etc. Then when the rubber hits the road they say they never expected to beat the good teams.

Beating the weak teams is good; elite teams should take care of that business most of the time.

However, elite, contending, Super Bowl capable teams have to beat other good teams. So no, 3-3 isn't good enough to convince me the Texans are elite or even on "the right track".

I guess if the Texans do finish off strong and wipe the floor with the weak part of their schedule that will be the incremental improvement so highly touted around here in years past. Yippee!

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

3-3, 4-2.

All off-season people talk about the Texans being contenders, being elite, having a shot at the Super Bowl, etc. Then when the rubber hits the road they then say they never expected to beat the good teams.

Beating the weak teams is good; elite teams should take care of that business most of the time.

However, elite, contending, Super Bowl capable teams have to beat other good teams. So no, 3-3 isn't good enough to convince me the Texans are elite or even on "the right track".

I guess if the Texans do finish off strong and wipe the floor with the weak part of their schedule that will be the incremental improvement so highly touted around here in years past. Yippee!

They'll start that kick after they're way behind just to come up short ( 5-7 and end up 9-7 ) . The saving grace for some ( fans ) is that it's like racing turtles this year and we can back into the playoffs .

 

[thunderkyss]

your goal isn't to keep lifting the same 90lbs for 6 years is it? Kubiak took a 6-10 team and 4 years later we have a 6-10 team. Wash, rinse, repeat.

What good is it to get beat like a drum in the playoffs just because your division is crappy and your team is just the least crappy team?

He got to 280 lbs, tore a muscle, got set back to 180lbs.. it happens.

 

[DexmanC]

That's where it needs to be till we can prove that we'll do better.

Just because I've been lifting weights for 5 years doesn't mean that I should be benching 315 if I started at 90lbs, had a couple of accidents along the way, was doing it wrong for the first two years...

Kubiak should still go if we sneak in & are one & done. But I'd be happy to get into the play offs. I'll even go to the parade.

If the bar were set high, and you didn't settle for substandard performance,
you'd be lifting 315 WELL within 5 years, hell, within TWO.

As long as the bar is set low, then "good enough" will be just below the bar.
The bar must be set high, and continually being raised. That's what
champions do. Jim Harbaugh didn't take over 1-15 Stanford, and concede
the conference to USC. He demanded excellence from them, and they
achieved it. That mindset has taken a sucky 49ers team to 5-1, by
beating a 5-0 team ON THE ROAD. Six years in, and Kubiak has
NEVER accomplished anything like that.

Shoot for the stars, and land on the moon.

 

[Vinny]

He got to 280 lbs, tore a muscle, got set back to 180lbs.. it happens.

at least you sell out your stadium huh?

 

[thunderkyss]

If the bar were set high, and you didn't settle for substandard performance,
you'd be lifting 315 WELL within 5 years, hell, within TWO.

As long as the bar is set low, then "good enough" will be just below the bar.
The bar must be set high, and continually being raised. That's what
champions do.

Shoot for the stars, and land on the moon.

Regardless where I set the bar isn't going to change what the Texans are going to do. They're shooting for a Super Bowl.

I'm just saying I will be happy to buy play-off tickets regardless how they get in.

I'll be happy to watch a road play-off game.

I'm not going to Reliant & boo the team or wave fire Kubiak signs if the team is 3-3 or even 3-4.

 

[DexmanC]

He got to 280 lbs, tore a muscle, got set back to 180lbs.. it happens.

Wish him well during rehab, and let another strong man get under the bench.

That SHOULD happen..

 

[Texan_Bill]

I expected to be 4-2 here. The Raiders loss was inexcusable.

I actually had the Raiders as a "swing" game, meaning I had the Texans @ 4-2 OR 3-3 at this point. The Raiders are not a bad football team.

 

[DexmanC]

Regardless where I set the bar isn't going to change what the Texans are going to do. They're shooting for a Super Bowl.

I'm just saying I will be happy to buy play-off tickets regardless how they get in.

I'll be happy to watch a road play-off game.

I'm not going to Reliant & boo the team or wave fire Kubiak signs if the team is 3-3 or even 3-4.

They SAY they're shooting for the Superbowl. Their actions SCREAM
"ok" is good enough. I think Kubiak should've been fired at 9-7, but I'm tired
of being proven right about it.

 

[HOU-TEX]

A sign that your team hasn't gotten there when everyone expects a loss. Sad, if I might say

 

[Hervoyel]

I thought that at this point we would have beaten the Colts, Dolphins, and Raiders comfortably and we would have won one of the Saints/Steelers/Ravens games to be 4-2.

I agree with everyone else that the Raiders loss was inexcusable. I consider it the single biggest sign that these are the same old Texans (followed closely by the choke against the Saints).

We are one game off of the pace I thought they'd be on going into this season.

I've decided that we're going to win Sunday to go to 4-3. eriadoc's prediction setting up another 5-7 in a previous thread is so compelling that I don't see how the Texans can resist playing it out.

 

[ObsiWan]

Well, except against the Clolts.

...Speaking of the Colts' game...

Remember when a couple of us raised the alarm about how the offense faded in the second half against the Colts??

Remember how we were beat down and told to shut up and enjoy the win??

Remember these warning posts from me during the Colts' game??
Quote:

Originally Posted by ObsiWan
We're still only playing one half of football.
Too many damned turnovers - one in the Red Zone.
When you take "your foot off the gas" or start "coasting" you get sloppy.

I don't like it.

Originally Posted by ObsiWan
Not being negative. Just pointing out the things that need polishing up. We strive to be a playoff team, right?
Well playoff teams don't take entire halfs off.
Playoff teams minimize turnovers.
All I'm saying is we still have a bit of work to do.

GP and CnnnD and some others warned you folks in WEEK ONE that this offense wasn't sharp as it should be and that the lack of an edge would bite us in the backside against the better teams. Well, we were shouted down and told to "shut up and enjoy the win" for our trouble.

See what we were saying way back then?

 

[Vinny]

I thought that at this point we would have beaten the Colts, Dolphins, and Raiders comfortably and we would have won one of the Saints/Steelers/Ravens games to be 4-2.

I agree with everyone else that the Raiders loss was inexcusable. I consider it the single biggest sign that these are the same old Texans (followed closely by the choke against the Saints).

We are one game off of the pace I thought they'd be on going into this season.

I've decided that we're going to win Sunday to go to 4-3. eriadoc's prediction setting up another 5-7 in a previous thread is so compelling that I don't see how the Texans can resist playing it out.

everyone is chirping about how we have a cake schedule going fwd, but Tampa just beat the Saints, Atlanta will have it's bugs worked out by the time we get there, Cincinnati has one of the best defenses in the NFL and Cam Newton is the kind of QB that tends to beat the Texans like a red headed step child. This mentally soft team will struggle to beat those teams in my view.

 

[thunderkyss]

I agree with everyone else that the Raiders loss was inexcusable. I consider it the single biggest sign that these are the same old Texans (followed closely by the choke against the Saints).

I think this is the point really.

We choked in New Orleans, we choked against Oakland, & we choked yesterday.

It's ok to get beat once in while, but to go toe-to-toe with a team only to choke at the end.... to show that we can play with them for 45 minutes, but fail in the final 15 minutes.

That's what is screaming same old Texans.

 

[Errant Hothy]

your goal isn't to keep lifting the same 90lbs for 6 years is it? Kubiak took a 6-10 team and 4 years later we have a 6-10 team. Wash, rinse, repeat.

What good is it to get beat like a drum in the playoffs just because your division is crappy and your team is just the least crappy team?

This...

If the bar were set high, and you didn't settle for substandard performance,
you'd be lifting 315 WELL within 5 years, hell, within TWO.

As long as the bar is set low, then "good enough" will be just below the bar.
The bar must be set high, and continually being raised. That's what
champions do. Jim Harbaugh didn't take over 1-15 Stanford, and concede
the conference to USC. He demanded excellence from them, and they
achieved it. That mindset has taken a sucky 49ers team to 5-1, by
beating a 5-0 team ON THE ROAD. Six years in, and Kubiak has
NEVER accomplished anything like that.

Shoot for the stars, and land on the moon.

...and this.

 

[DX-TEX]

A sign that your team hasn't gotten there when everyone expects a loss. Sad, if I might say

Thats what i was about to say. When you accept mediocrity your get mediocrity,

 

[Cerberus]

I actually had the Raiders as a "swing" game, meaning I had the Texans @ 4-2 OR 3-3 at this point. The Raiders are not a bad football team.

It is funny to see people's reactions to losing to the Raiders. They either assumed the Texans were playing last year's Raiders, or they are too young to remember when the Raiders were good and they see the Raiders the way I see the Bengals. Funny thing is, how would those same people have handled a loss to the Chiefs? After all, the Chiefs won the AFCW last year, right? Problem is, last year's Chiefs and this year's Chiefs are two different teams, much like last year's Raiders and this years Raiders. Well, at least until Jason Campbell went down and out for the season.

I thought that at this point we would have beaten the Colts, Dolphins, and Raiders comfortably and we would have won one of the Saints/Steelers/Ravens games to be 4-2.

I agree with everyone else that the Raiders loss was inexcusable. I consider it the single biggest sign that these are the same old Texans (followed closely by the choke against the Saints).

Inexcusable because???? Because you weren't aware the Raiders are better than you gave them credit for being?

I know I predicted the Raiders to win by 3-4 points.

 

[TheMatrix31]

Just more delusion from Texans fans.

The Raiders are (were, I guess now) a pretty damn good team. Why everyone is treating that loss as "inexcusable" is ****ing ridiculous to me.

Now, if you want to talk about the patterns that LED to the loss, then that's another thing.

 

[TexansFanatic]

Just more delusion from Texans fans.

The Raiders are (were, I guess now) a pretty damn good team. Why everyone is treating that loss as "inexcusable" is ****ing ridiculous to me.

Now, if you want to talk about the patterns that LED to the loss, then that's another thing.

Your expectations are clearly very low and I'm actually envious. I wish I could be happy with average.

If you can't expect a win at home against a team as poorly managed and coached as the Raiders have been for the better part of the past couple of decades then what meaningful games can you ever expect to win?

If you're expecting a loss against any team that can be classified as above average then what possible hope can you have of seeing your team succeed in the post-season?

 

[TheMatrix31]

Your expectations are clearly very low and I'm actually envious. I wish I could be happy with average.

If you can't expect a win at home against a team as poorly managed and coached as the Raiders have been for the better part of the past couple of decades then what meaningful games can you ever expect to win?

If you're expecting a loss against any team that can be classified as above average then what possible hope can you have of seeing your team succeed in the post-season?

A) I'm not happy with average at all.

B) It speaks on your understanding of other teams around the league if you think that the Raiders were the same team as years past. Thinking the Raiders are just the "same ol Raiders" is straight up arrogance about some perceived stature of our team AND ignorance of how far they've come.

C) I want wins every single week. Very, very badly. I have holes in my wall that can attest to my desire to win. But as someone who has no control over the team or the way they execute, and as someone who understands that this team is hurting, a work in progress, not the Patriots, and coached by Kubiak....the only thing I can expect is to compete in every game. And we have.

Does that mean I demand less? Does that mean I'm okay with losing? Does that mean I'm a "Kubiak sunshiner" (which, btw, has got to he the dumbest thing I've heard to describe someone who supports a coach) Does that mean any of the things that you or other people think it means? No.

 

[80tothezone]

Its not that fact we lost, its how we lost that has everyone so frustrated.

Quoting Nick Scurfields twitter post


Yes we were playing the Ravens D, but this offense is suppose to be better than that.

without dre? i don't think they are right now as DM learns the system maybe they could be but with two average WR'S and one just joined the team WR i didn't really expect much.

 

[TexansFanatic]

It speaks on your understanding of other teams around the league if you think that the Raiders were the same team as years past. Thinking the Raiders are just the "same ol Raiders" is straight up arrogance about some perceived stature of our team AND ignorance of how far they've come.

I've actually followed the Raiders pretty closely for over 30 years mainly because a good friend of mine is a seriously nutty Raiders fan and he has essentially forced me to know a lot about his beloved Silver & Black.

They typically have a talented roster, but the mayhem an old/crazed Al Davis brought to that organization made it doubly difficult for them to compete. That may change now that he's gone, but he hadn't been gone for many hours before the Texans played them most recently.

The fact that the Texans absolutely dominated the Raiders in the first half is what I consider compelling evidence that I was correct to expect the Texans to win. The Raiders couldn't convert a third down, Darren McFadden had difficulty gaining a single yard, and Jason Campbell was harassed into errant throws repeatedly.

The Texans looked like they were going to make short work of the Raiders but then they just went to bed. Up by a score of 14-6, the Texans looked like they felt they had proven their point and they were done for the day.

That sort of performance is screaming out that the team lacks a fire, discipline, and proper leadership.

I'm not happy with average at all. But as someone who has no control over the team or the way they execute, and as someone who understands that this team is hurting, a work in progress, not the Patriots, and coached by Kubiak....the only thing I can expect is to compete in every game. And we have.

Does that mean I demand less? Does that mean I'm okay with losing? Does that mean I'm a "Kubiak sunshiner" (which, btw, has got to he the dumbest thing I've heard to describe someone who supports a coach)

Here's where you've lost me.

You mention that the Texans aren't the Patriots. What separates them from the Patriots and what's keeping the Texans from closing that gap?

How can you say the team is a work in progress when they've been, give or take a game or two, a .500 team every single season for the past 5 years?

Doesn't a work in progress usually improve over time?

You've also essentially admitted that the team is hamstrung by Kubiak's leadership but you also support him. Maybe it's just me, but that seems like a striking contradiction. Why would you support a coach you know to be an impediment to his team's success?

 

[TheMatrix31]

Well obviously. That's what I'm saying. Kubiak sucks, that's why we haven't seen progress, and that's why we shouldn't expect to roll an opponent like Oakland?

Where did I say I support him? I've been pretty adamant about me not liking him, and have said like 8 times in multiple threads since yesterday alone that I've wanted him gone since the set of 2009 Failures.

 

[TexansFanatic]

Where did I say I support him? I've been pretty adamant about me not liking him, and have said like 8 times in multiple threads since yesterday alone that I've wanted him gone since the set of 2009 Failures.

Sorry. My mistake.

I misinterpreted this:

Does that mean I'm a "Kubiak sunshiner" (which, btw, has got to he the dumbest thing I've heard to describe someone who supports a coach)

Carry on, brother. ;-))

 

[Cerberus]

If you can't expect a win at home against a team as poorly managed and coached as the Raiders have been for the better part of the past couple of decades then what meaningful games can you ever expect to win?

See, that shows your ignorance of the Raiders. Poorly managed? How is that? They run their team a certain way, though it may not be what is best for other teams, it has worked for the Raiders. You are seeing stories coming out now that reinforce that which those of us that closely follow the team already knew. It is like when people say the game passed Davis by, and now you're hearing he knew everything from coverages on Def, Off and ST, to every player on every team. Apparently you were duped by the media.

They typically have a talented roster, but the mayhem an old/crazed Al Davis brought to that organization made it doubly difficult for them to compete.

Once again, that just shows you don't know what you are talking about, and have been swayed by mediots like Al Michaels, Dr. Z, and Michael Silver, who are known to have personal problems with Davis/Raiders. Al Michaels sided with Marcus Allen who didn't show up when Davis didn't make him the highest paid player in the NFL, even though he was the highest paid RB at the time. Davis also got Allen out of trouble he got into with cocaine, but you never hear about that do you. Dr. Z had a problem with Ken Stabler, who supposedly slept with Z's wife; now ex-wife. Michael Silver wrote a derogatory article and was banned from the Raider locker room until he ran crying to the NFL League office, so you won't hear anything nice from him either. Glenn Dickey lost his job at the SF Gate for writing an article that was full of falsehoods.

Basically, Davis didn't like media people, so they returned the favor by writing negative things that people like you gobbled up. For example, for example I doubt you even knew Davis didn't sue the NFL to move the Raiders from Oakland to L.A.? He counter-sued! Did you know the attorney for the NFL that lost that case? His name was Paul Tagliabue!

Anyway, point is you don't know what you are talking about with regard to the Raiders.

The fact that the Texans absolutely dominated the Raiders in the first half is what I consider compelling evidence that I was correct to expect the Texans to win. The Raiders couldn't convert a third down, Darren McFadden had difficulty gaining a single yard, and Jason Campbell was harassed into errant throws repeatedly.

Really? Because the score at halftime was 14-12. Oh yeah, from my seat in the stadium the Raiders started taking over about midway through the 2nd quarter, which means they made good adjustments as the game progressed. And had Jason Campbell not overthrown Schilens on the flea-flicker the Raiders would have gone into the half on top! Schaub hit his long throw for a TD, but that was against an injured McClain. So you see, it is all in how you look at things.

 

[TheMatrix31]

My guess is you didn't quote the right person...

 

[TexansFanatic]

My guess is you didn't quote the right person...

That's my guess, too.

And here's my answer to his post:

HUH???

What exactly has been working for the Raiders for the past eight seasons?

2003 -- 4-12
2004 -- 5-11
2005 -- 4-12
2006 -- 2-14
2007 -- 4-12
2008 -- 5-11
2010 -- 8-8

And aside from a break in the dark clouds at the turn of the century when Jon Gruden managed to right the ship in spite of Al Davis, it was more of the same dismal, directionless lunacy in the nineties.

Over the course of the past 25 seasons, the Raiders have won 180 games which averages out to 7.2 wins per season.

Oh yeah, the Raiders have been a real commitment to excellence for some time now.

 

[Cerberus]

My guess is you didn't quote the right person...

I was just fixing that. I pulled his quote off of your response. Sorry.

 

[Cerberus]

That's my guess, too.

And here's my answer to his post:

HUH???

What exactly has been working for the Raiders for the past eight seasons?

2003 -- 4-12
2004 -- 5-11
2005 -- 4-12
2006 -- 2-14
2007 -- 4-12
2008 -- 5-11
2010 -- 8-8

And aside from a break in the dark clouds at the turn of the century when Jon Gruden managed to right the ship in spite of Al Davis, it was more of the same dismal, directionless lunacy in the nineties.

Oh yeah, the Raiders have been a real commitment to excellence for some time now.

You said 30 years! And Gruden did it WITH Al Davis, and he'll tell you that himself.

5 Super Bowl appearances and 3 Lombardi Trophies, and that doesn't count the times the Raiders got screwed out of going, i.e., The Snow Job and the Rob Lytle fumble.

Here, because you obviously are clueless when it comes to the Raiders:

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/03/19/sports/sports-of-the-times-no-replay-on-nfl-s-wrong-call.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av-xZ4QUKAg Start watching at about 8:28 in the video, and make sure you watch the replay.

 

[TexansFanatic]

You said 30 years!

Here is precisely what I said:

I've actually followed the Raiders pretty closely for over 30 years mainly because a good friend of mine is a seriously nutty Raiders fan and he has essentially forced me to know a lot about his beloved Silver & Black.

As you can see, I didn't say they've sucked for 30 years. But it wasn't long after their then record-setting beatdown of the Redskins that they began their decline into utter mediocrity.

It's clear you are a classic Raiders fan who has bought all of the Al Davis propaganda that paints him as a rebel so persecuted by the presiding powers of the NFL that his record has been distorted.

My friend, there is no running away from the numbers. The Raiders, aside from a handful of bright spots over the past quarter century, have been the very poster child for a dysfunctional, under-achieving organization.

But by all means, keep pimping your swashbuckling band of mavericks meme to the uninformed.

 

[Cerberus]

Here is precisely what I said:

I've actually followed the Raiders pretty closely for over 30 years mainly because a good friend of mine is a seriously nutty Raiders fan and he has essentially forced me to know a lot about his beloved Silver & Black.

As you can see, I didn't say they've sucked for 30 years. But it wasn't long after their then record-setting beatdown of the Redskins that they began their decline into utter mediocrity.

It's clear you are a classic Raiders fan who has bought all of the Al Davis propaganda that paints him as a rebel so persecuted by the presiding powers of the NFL that his record has been distorted.

My friend, there is no running away from the numbers. The Raiders, aside from a handful of bright spots over the past quarter century, have been the very poster child for a dysfunctional, under-achieving organization.

But by all means, keep pimping your swashbuckling band of mavericks meme to the uninformed.

If you really think that, then I'm embarrassed for you.

Yes, Davis was hard to work for, but that is because he pushed his people to be the best they could be. Some resented it, and some embraced it. You really need to stop listening to the mediots, and listen to people who actually associated with Davis, i.e., Hue Jackson, Jon Gruden, John Madden, etc. . . Not the Shanahan's, Warren Sapps and Al Michaels of the world.

 

[GNTLEWOLF]

I've been posting a lot of negative stuff lately so I'm going to balance that with this thought:

I never expected the Texans to beat the Ravens. I counted this game as a loss before the season even began.

In fact, I expected it to be really ugly. I expected Schaub to get knocked out. I expected him to throw at least one pick-six.

So, truthfully, I was kinda-sorta pleasantly surprised that the Texans made it a game until late.

Having said that, I'm still pissed about the Raiders game. And I still think the Texans let a victory slip away from them in New Orleans.

This team should be 4-2 at worst and could be 5-1. So basically we're watching another typical Kubiak season of woulda-coulda-shoulda unfold again.

Going forward, I'm expecting 6 more wins and a nail-biter-down-to-the-last-weekend struggle for control of the division with the Titans. The division is there for the taking, but I won't be surprised in the least if the Texans don't seize control of it and make it their btch.

Before the season started, I looked at the schedule and thought the Texans might go 8-8. I definately had the Ravens picked as a loss for this team, even given that everone would be healthy. That said, I suppose I shouldn't be upset about this loss or any of the others that the Texans suffer.

However, Just because I , trying to be realistic thought this team might not be all that and a bag of chips, doesn't mean that I don't have serious homer expectations from my team. I, as a fan expect my team to win, every game. And isn't it a shame that this many years in, we still look at a schedule and expect losses. If this is truely "our year", then we should look at the schedule and expect to win them all, even though reality says it won't happen. If this is a good team we should be upset about any loos that could realistically be a win. But this team isn't there yet. And the tell is that fans of this team are still satisfied that we were beaten by real contenders. We should be the contenders that other teams measure success by. Anyway, that is why I am upset about any of these losses. We should be beyond that by now.
As a fan of this team, I have become accustomed to the promises every year that "this will be our year", only to be disappointed over and over again. But hope springs eternal, and I always hope that what I saw in that schedule, and the weaknesses in this team are only mirrages conjured up by years of being let down, and by being a former Kubiak fan who now feels we can't unload this albotross soon enough.
I know it seems contradictory, but, so is the life of a Houston Texans fan. I'm still battling though and maybe someday, if we hire a real HC, the chasm between the reality of our potential and the hopes of someone who truely wants this team to win will be bridged. Maybe.....

 

[Cerberus]

The NFL is generally cyclic, so it is not uncommon to see a great team be down for several years before there is a resurgence. Now, the Texans haven't been around that long in reality, but they are getting "there".

 

[Maddict5]

Your expectations are clearly very low and I'm actually envious. I wish I could be happy with average.

If you can't expect a win at home against a team as poorly managed and coached as the Raiders have been for the better part of the past couple of decades then what meaningful games can you ever expect to win?

If you're expecting a loss against any team that can be classified as above average then what possible hope can you have of seeing your team succeed in the post-season?

not that i agree with your view that decades old performance has much relevance to current results but if i did (and to answer your question).....

maybe a win at home against a team as well managed and coached as the Steelers have been for the better part of the past couple of decades?

they say 'any given sunday' for a reason

 

[mussop]

I haven't read any of this thread. I just don't care enough anymore to argue about whether or not this team is as good as it should be. We are NOT!!!! So i'm going to throw in my two cents and leave. After Kubiak has had six years to build this team, how can anyone be happy with where we are when you look at the schedule and say to yourself, I don't expect to win games against the good teams?

Any coach that has had 6 years to build a team should have a team that realistically expects to win games against good teams. Not all of them but you shouldn't be going into a season expecting to loose against good teams. I can see saying that is going to be a tough one, but expecting to loose?

****ing sad man!!!!!

 

[thunderkyss]

Any coach that has had 6 years to build a team should have a team that realistically expects to win games against good teams. Not all of them but you shouldn't be going into a season expecting to loose against good teams. I can see saying that is going to be a tough one, but expecting to loose?

****ing sad man!!!!!

Not only that, but how many of us could predict a inept 4th Qtr offense?

 

[Double Barrel]

So, if expectations should be .500 after week six, then why not .500 after week 8?

Or .500 after week 12? Week 17?

Kubiak is a mediocre head coach, so the results should be no surprise. That the Texans are .500 after week six of his sixth season is par for the course. It is what he has always been, and there is no sign that he will be anything more than what he's proven to be in 86 games as the Texans head coach.

86 GAMES. Let that sink in for a moment.

Expect nothing from Kubiak's team, and you will not be disappointed.

 

[TexansFanatic]

You really need to stop listening to the mediots, and listen to people who actually associated with Davis, i.e., Hue Jackson, Jon Gruden, John Madden, etc. . . Not the Shanahan's, Warren Sapps and Al Michaels of the world.

Just to be clear, I actually have a high regard for Al Davis. He made a lot of enemies during his life, but I seriously doubt anybody lacked respect for what he was able to accomplish. He was an amazing force of nature before he completely lost his mind. But nobody can ever take from him the fantastic success he had in shaping the Raiders brand.

All that said, there can be no refuting the numbers. We can argue all day about all kinds of nuance, but you can't look at the sky and tell me it's red and you can't look at all those losing seasons and tell me Al didn't lose his mojo. Aside from a few bright spots over the past 25 years, the teams he put on the field were a joke.

During their first 25 years, it was unusual when the Raiders failed. Over the past 25 years, the more rare occurrence was seeing the team succeed.

 

[Texans Pride]

You and everyone LIKE you would be the SAME people who would march up and down this board and everywhere else bitching and moaning about how we didn't take advantage of a crappy division and this and that and this and that.

Spare me that BS.

Please don't assume you know me and/or what I think.

 

[badboy]

Back to the thread and not insulting each other, I picked us winning. 15-1 was my prediction. Loss to Steelers was the only guaranteed loss I saw. I had us 5-1 with a basically down hill run to playoffs. I thought Foster and Tate would be best duo in NFL and Ward would have at least 5 TD plunges.

 

[Vinny]

Back to the thread and not insulting each other, I picked us winning. 15-1 was my prediction. Loss to Steelers was the only guaranteed loss I saw. I had us 5-1 with a basically down hill run to playoffs. I thought Foster and Tate would be best duo in NFL and Ward would have at least 5 TD plunges.

hmmm, so close.

 

[TheMatrix31]

Please don't assume you know me and/or what I think.

I don't have to assume, and I don't have to know you.

 

[thunderkyss]

Back to the thread and not insulting each other, I picked us winning. 15-1 was my prediction. Loss to Steelers was the only guaranteed loss I saw. I had us 5-1 with a basically down hill run to playoffs. I thought Foster and Tate would be best duo in NFL and Ward would have at least 5 TD plunges.

Only two games off. Not bad considering you weren't counting on decimating injuries to our RBs, WRs, and Aj & Mario in particular.

FYI, our remaining schedule is a combined 21-34, only 4 games against teams with winning schedules. We could run the table & finish 13-3. I wonder if Kubiak would be looked at any differently even if it's just winning 10 in a row against a schedule of losing teams.

Another FYI, I think Demeco is very close to being the player he needs to be. We may be in for a very, very exciting season yet.

 

[HJam72]

Only two games off. Not bad considering you weren't counting on decimating injuries to our RBs, WRs, and Aj & Mario in particular.

FYI, our remaining schedule is a combined 21-34, only 4 games against teams with winning schedules. We could run the table & finish 13-3. I wonder if Kubiak would be looked at any differently even if it's just winning 10 in a row against a schedule of losing teams.

Another FYI, I think Demeco is very close to being the player he needs to be. We may be in for a very, very exciting season yet.

Nah, we got 5 division games left to lose....making us 8-8. :kubepalm:

 

[thunderkyss]

Nah, we got 5 division games left to lose....making us 8-8. :kubepalm:

Kubiak's in my dog house. I wouldn't piss on him to save his life. I might do it for the heck of it, but not if he were stung by a jellyfish or anything like that.


I wouldn't think any differently of him unless we dominate those games & get to the AFC Championship game.