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Who do you want as the new OC?

Doug Pederson and Chip Kelly are interesting names to me.

Previous HC experience and play calling experience. Texans have a team that finished in the top 4 of their conference back to back years. This should be one of the most desireable positions in the league. No need getting a “young upstart”. Lets get a proven play caller, that will preferably stick around after their first Super Bowl win ;)
 
Texansballer74 said:
It wasn’t Hannah. More and likely it was Meco and Caserio pulling the trigger on this one.
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I think Caserio pulled Meco to the side after the season and told him -

“Look, I almost got fired when it was Sean Peyton vs you. Cal and Hannah aren’t playing around. Don’t end up like Lovie and Culley. You need to let Slowik go. For your own future job security. Just saying.”
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
Doug Pederson and Chip Kelly are interesting names to me.

Previous HC experience and play calling experience. Texans have a team that finished in the top 4 of their conference back to back years. This should be one of the most desireable positions in the league. No need getting a “young upstart”. Lets get a proven play caller, that will preferably stick around after their first Super Bowl win ;)
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One thing that has been said about them two - they have had their chance as HC in the NFL. They may not be looking for another. So we don’t have to worry as much about an OC getting poached for an HC job.
 
leebigeztx said:
I want someone who have called plays before, in this type of system. To me that's Frank Reich, Doug Pederson, and of course Bienemy. Highly doubtful either gets a head coaching job for awhile, like Spags. So now you have that stability and knowledge. That would be who I would want.
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Bienemy cannot get past any interview. I don't think I want a person like that at any leadership role for Houston.
 
mussop said:
Now trade Tunsils lazy ass and complete the trifecta.
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Sleigh that dragon and watch the line improve. Can’t cut him. 28 million due next season, 26 million cap hit to cut him. He’s either here or traded. I’d take a pack of gum from 1956, and a Billy Doran trading card in trade.
 
Mangler said:
Chip Kelly as OC is intriguing as well! I completely forgot about him.
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He replaced O'Brien who was at Ohio State I think about a week as offensive coordinator. He and Ryan Day are very close and may not want to leave that program.
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
Doug Pederson and Chip Kelly are interesting names to me.

Previous HC experience and play calling experience. Texans have a team that finished in the top 4 of their conference back to back years. This should be one of the most desireable positions in the league. No need getting a “young upstart”. Lets get a proven play caller, that will preferably stick around after their first Super Bowl win ;)
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& both have had multiple HC positions. Not likely to go anywhere, like Spags in KC.
 
The only thing that worries me about Pederson is he's got that Jags stink on him. When's the last time anything good came out of Duval? Most of their ex coaches have already been hired and fired again.

Why did he get fired after winning a SB in Philly? You think they would've built a statue of the guy. I can't remember why he fell out of favor
 
I think it's a little scary that we're scapegoating Slowik and I bet he's better than he showed this year but it's also a huge, huge problem that he didn't adjust to all the catastrophic injuries/deficiencies. He didn't coach the offense well enough in light of those problems and didn't put them in a position to still be successful.

You still have to put your team in a good position with whatever they have to work with.

Anyway, not sure who we replace him with but we should exorcise the Indian burial ground that Reliant appears to be built on.
 
Just trying to think of guys here, but what’s Byron Leftwich up to these days?. He’s out of the league now right?

I think McCown has a ton of upside if he’s truly dedicated, but I am averse to a first time play caller. But I could get my mind around it. Not A+ but happy if Meco goes with him or Caley, who I know almost nothing about but seems to be on the fast track..

I hadn’t considered McCarthy. I assumed he’d sit it out and wait for a HC spot to open, or maybe go college HC. I’m not. Fan of his as HC, but as OC…you betcha. I’d be pumped about Him or Doug P.
 
Porky said:
Just trying to think of guys here, but what’s Byron Leftwich up to these days?. He’s out of the league now right?

I think McCown has a ton of upside if he’s truly dedicated, but I am averse to a first time play caller. But I could get my mind around it. Not A+ but happy if Meco goes with him or Caley, who I know almost nothing about but seems to be on the fast track..

I hadn’t considered McCarthy. I assumed he’d sit it out and wait for a HC spot to open, or maybe go college HC. I’m not. Fan of his as HC, but as OC…you betcha. I’d be pumped about Him or Doug P.
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I believe that there was a really good article that the athletic put out about Byron Leftwich. He wants to get back in the game and I would be curious on what he would bring to the table.
 
TexansFan15 said:
I believe that there was a really good article that the athletic put out about Byron Leftwich. He wants to get back in the game and I would be curious on what he would bring to the table.
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I’d considering interviewing him if they don’t have their man already on speed dial. I’m not sure how open the search is. Their guy may already be identified and it’s all a formality form here…who knows.
 
The Third Man said:
I would like Chip Kelly. Here is why:
  • Demeco and Kelly have a strong relationship already.
  • Kelly has been a head coach and Ryans could use his counsel.
  • Kelly is innovative, successful and knows how to hire staff.
  • Kelly's run game design is elite. This is what the Texans and Stroud need.
  • Kelly could help poach the very successful offensive line coach from the Eagles, Jeff Stoutland. Kelly hired him in the first place.
  • Kelly does not seem to want to be head coach anymore.
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I don't want Chip Kelly anywhere near this team. He single handedly destroyed a really good team in Philly when he was head coach. Some coaches are better suited for college, and he is one. I don't think he relates well to grown men and they certainly don't relate to him. A big NOOOO!
 
The line coach’s sucked for sure. I am mixed on abandoning our offensive scheme. It has worked decently considering the abysmal line play. The massive hits we took to our stars being out for extended time or for the season (Mixon, Nico, Tank, Diggs) surely did not help. SF did bad this year but they had similar issues. The one big thing that was introduced at the end of the season was CJ running. This is big! As long as he slides a bit earlier.
 
Hervoyel said:
I like the way you're thinking but (sadly) I do have to concede that there are bigger problems than Tunsil on the OL. Hopefully the new OL coach can solve one or two of those problems and then see about getting the LT dialed in and if he can't then moved on to the next lucky team to pay a premium for false starts.
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I am curious as to why you want to limit the new coach to only solving one or two problems and then advancing to Tunsil?
The car's in the shop and we have the means to fix it and the time. All that is needed is to find the right mechanic.
 
Anyone calling for Peterson or Reich needs their head examined. We’ve had front row seats to both. 1 got Andrew Luck killed and was well on his way to ruining whatever career Bryce young was gonna have.

The other nearly ruined Hurts and had Trevor Lawrence underperforming.

Each of these guys also had supposed once in a generation QBs and did nothing with them.

Whomever the OC winds up being is someone that’s gonna be doing more than just calling the plays. They will be responsible for everything. & neither of these guys have shown any proficiency in developing an offensive line, creative playcalling and/or offensive player development. No thanks to both.
I’m kinda becoming more open to a guy like McCown simply because he’s a former QB so he’ll be able to see things as CJ sees them..he’s got history with the organization and is unlikely to ruffle feathers, and he’s been coaching in the league now for a couple of years… which is a far cry from where he was a couple of years ago when a story broke saying we were supposedly looking at him for the HC gig. word is too he’s was instrumental in Darnold’s turnaround this year.
 
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Mr teX said:
Anyone calling for Peterson or Reich needs their head examined. We’ve had front row seats to both. 1 got Andrew Luck killed and was well on his way to ruining whatever career Bryce young was gonna have.

The other nearly ruined Hurts and had Trevor Lawrence underperforming.

Each of these guys also had supposed once in a generation QBs and did nothing with them.

Whomever the OC winds up being is someone that’s gonna be doing more than just calling the plays. They will be responsible for everything. & neither of these guys have shown any proficiency in developing an offensive line, creative playcalling and/or offensive player development. No thanks to both.
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Trevor Lawrence just isn’t a good QB.
 
Mr teX said:
Anyone calling for Peterson or Reich needs their head examined. We’ve had front row seats to both. 1 got Andrew Luck killed and was well on his way to ruining whatever career Bryce young was gonna have.

The other nearly ruined Hurts and had Trevor Lawrence underperforming.

Each of these guys also had supposed once in a generation QBs and did nothing with them.

Whomever the OC winds up being is someone that’s gonna be doing more than just calling the plays. They will be responsible for everything. & neither of these guys have shown any proficiency in developing an offensive line, creative playcalling and/or offensive player development. No thanks to both.
I’m kinda becoming more open to a guy like McCown simply because he’s a former QB so he’ll be able to see things as CJ sees them..he’s got history with the organization and is unlikely to ruffle feathers, and he’s been coaching in the league now for a couple of years… which is a far cry from where he was a couple of years ago when a story broke saying we were supposedly looking at him for the HC gig. word is too he’s was instrumental in Darnold’s turnaround this year.
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Gotta disagree for multiple reasons:

First off many years of bad OL play got Luck into an early retirement. Reich only had him one season and he took 18 sacks that year.

The Panthers issue sounds like a lot of factors involved, but I wouldn’t entirely nix Reich as an OC candidate because he flopped as HC in Carolina.

Pederson had Hurts for one season and Hurts showed promise. How did he nearly ruin him?

Both of those coaches were part of a team that won a Super Bowl with Nick Foles.

And to bring up Mccown being a former QB…. I get having amnesia about Frank Reich’s previous career prior to coaching but you don’t remember Pederson was also a former QB?

And you don’t fault Mccown at all as QB coach of Carolina team that flopped?
 
I want someone who coaches the details right. Our offense was sloppy and the guys never were benched. The run needs to look like the pass, the routes need to be crisp and timed with the drop, the OL needs to work together. None of that was a regular occurrence, and the same guys kept coming out. By the way, the TE needs to block and chip or they don't play. The defensive guys are clear in interviews, if they don't swarm, they don't see the field. FOr the offense, if they don't execute, they would not see the field.
 
I want someone who brings the same swarm mentality to the offensive side of the ball. The defense and ST definitely embodied this mentality, but the offense was charmin soft. I would prefer a "head coach of the offense" type of coach, but I don't know about NFL personnel to give a name. I absolutely DO NOT want anyone who was on the offensive staff last year. I'm ok with them cleaning house, but this isn't a necessity.

CloakNNNdagger said:
That was the approach taken with Watson.
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Don't think they should bring in CJ to pick the OC. This is something that needs to come from the front office/GM/HC, not from the players. CJ is a good teammate and nice guy, but I think he's going to like just about anyone. I think maybe someone that pushes him a little bit at times may help him significantly.

TexansBull said:
I think Caserio pulled Meco to the side after the season and told him -

“Look, I almost got fired when it was Sean Peyton vs you. Cal and Hannah aren’t playing around. Don’t end up like Lovie and Culley. You need to let Slowik go. For your own future job security. Just saying.”
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IMO I think people take Demeco's laid back attitude and demeanor at press conferences and the fact that he doesn't call people out in the media, as that he is some sort of pushover. I think he's the complete opposite. He was so pissed off at the post-game presser after the KC game I think he likely punched a hole in the wall somewhere in the building. He HATES losing...especially if he knows his defense did what they needed to do. I'm sure he's got much love for Slowik, but I think he wants to win a SB more than he wants to be BFFs with Slowik.

Totally surprised by the move. Super happy and very anti-S.O.T. and unlike what we normally get from the HC in this town. This is what winning organizations do: they don't settle for "good enough". Coach Ryans wants to win a SB, and he was really close in SF, so I think we're going to get that level of commitment to winning.
 
I watch videos former Texans Seth Payne produces and puts out on YouTube.
So Seth says more than anything at this point in the development of CJ and the offense
we need a highly experienced OC and preferably one who also has experience as a HC,
and this is so in no small part to our HC having a defense and not offense background.
 
House of Pain said:
I want someone who brings the same swarm mentality to the offensive side of the ball.
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Yep! I want someone to instill some fire into that side of the ball. I want to see a 3 musketeer mentality by that OL/TE group. Get some nasty into those big boys. I am so tired of seeing other teams OL push the RB 10 yards downfield and asking why Texans never do that.
 
IDEXAN said:
I watch videos former Texans Seth Payne produces and puts out on YouTube.
So Seth says more than anything at this point in the development of CJ and the offense
we need a highly experienced OC and preferably one who also has experience as a HC,
and this is so in no small part to our HC having a defense and not offense background.
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I agree with Seth’s take. I also want an experienced OC so that person can put together a competent coaching staff through what can only be gained from experience and connections.

Slowik was given his staff because he didn’t have a rolodex like Nick does. DeMeco was able to get guys on defense he was familiar with from previous stops. I want the OC to be able to be like Wade Phillips. You run this thing and get your guys to do it.

Guys like Pederson, Mccarthy, Kelly and Reich have that rolodex.

Though if we’re going younger i’d sooner take a Rams candidate (Ragone or Caley) with the hopes of poaching the Mcvay coaching tree for assistants. And I can get on board with Klint Kubiak assuming he can bring in Benton as his OL coach and ask his dad to consult. Ragone has the added benefit of previous OC experience, but Arthur Smith was calling plays in Atlanta.
 
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