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Who do you go after in FA and Why?!

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If you had your choice, which the Texans will be in pretty good cap shape, Who would you go after? We know a few things already.....1) Assumed the Texans will switch to a 4-3 defensive scheme. 2) We assume the offense will look to be more explosive. 3) We assume that the o-line is a priority. We assume that unless the Texans trade down to the middle of the first round, big bucks will be placed out there for their top draft picks. What do you do Texan Nation!!!:redtowel:
 
Bentley- for obvious reasons
Antonio Bryant- only if Bradford, Gaffney and Armstrong leave
Chris Hope- Will immediatly help secondary
Kyle Van Den Bosch- Solid DE, from the division...will probably have to overspend
MLB- not really familiar with what is out there.
 
1) Chris Hope - They need a free safety and he's one of the better ones. Pitt might lock him up, but he'd be a great young addition to the defensive backfield.

2) John Abraham - Assuming the Jets don't find a way to keep him or don't trade him to the Texans as part of a package for the 1st pick. He's a need to get a pass rushing DE. If they can partner him up with Mario Williams it could be nasty.

3) LeCharles Bentley - I think they need to upgrade the offensive line. Well, that's like saying ice cream is pretty good. He'll take a lot of money to come here, but he would be a great improvement and matched with a couple of rookies like Eric Winston and Nick Mangold could really make this one of the better lines in the league.
 
Can Charlie Casserly for regurgitation of the fact we will be inactive in the FA market, or maybe he is a puppet
 
lecharles bentley. probably a bit pricey, but i think he'd single handedly allow us to cut both mckinney & weigert (which would save a ton of money). along with the obvious being a probowl offensive lineman & pretty young, i think as a finesse blocker he'd fit pretty well into kubiak's scheme.

aaron kampman. should be a relatively cheap free agent defensive end and someone who would start right away, lessening the burdon of filling holes entirely through the draft. not exactly a superstar, but a strong upgrade over anyone on the current roster.

ike taylor (RFA). if not tendered, would compliment dunta and solidify our sencondary quite a bit, and would push p-burnt into the nickel slot. also, like kampman, he'd fill a hole that we wouldnt have to draft immediately towards. a lot of positives on this guy ... his size (6'1"), athleticism, and attitude (going from 4th round project to superbowl starter), along with being a solid tackler would fit well here IMO. pitt's likely to tender him however so that'd knock him off my list as we'd have to give up picks.

after that there arent really many others i'd even consider since i'd rather us focus more on building through the draft. van den bosch i'd probably look at if kampman fell through though.
 
What I'd really like to see them get are a few key guys that haven't had the opportunity and won't break the bank. That's how to build a winning team. The Texans seem to pay more to get lesser talent. I think it's supposed to be the other way around.

Still, the players I listed earlier are the ones I would like to see based on getting the best available.
 
Kevin Curtis from St. Louis - Potential to be a great WR, didnt have much opportunity playing being Holt and Bruce so much.

Bentley for obvious reasons


Chris Hope to improve the secondary
 
Is it possible to trade with the jets for abraham, draft hawk, and sign bentley?...that sure would fill alot of holes...

I've been stuck between this scenario and getting bush and making a run at bentley/lepsis. As what scooter said Kampman would be a good addition...i wish i would have thought of that one.:)
 
I like Chris Hope from Pittsburgh. I think it's time for us to show Coleman the door.

Bentley. Our line needs the most help and since Hutchinson from Seattle is likely to be franchised, he will be our best option.

Joe Jurevicius - I just like how he plays and it seems he always holds on to the ball.

Julian Peterson - He was a freak before the achilles injury. If he can play back up to form 2 years removed from a major injury, he could be a huge addition.

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LBblitz said:
Is it possible to trade with the jets for abraham, draft hawk, and sign bentley?...that sure would fill alot of holes...
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That would be pretty solid. However, I've been wondering - does anyone know how Bentley would fit in the zone blocking system?
 
The Dude Abides said:
Julian Peterson - He was a freak before the achilles injury. If he can play back up to form 2 years removed from a major injury, he could be a huge addition.

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or he could be an expensive bust- realistically i think the best we can hope for is chris hope- bentley would be a quality addition but may be even franchised yet and if not alot of teams better than us will want him
 
Let me throw out a few factors that haven't quite been considered yet with respect to free agency.

I don't see the point in paying (sizeable) FA money to Hope or Taylor, when it is obvious that they are no more than utility guys for the Pittsburgh defense. The strength of that defense is the linebackers and Polamalu in the secondary. All the Steelers ask Hope and Taylor to do is not get beat deep and up until the tail-end of this year, they hadn't quite figured that out yet. They are solid in run support, but its not as if they will make an impact on the Texans defense without an improved pass rush. Bottom line, there is no point in sinking FA money into former 3rd and 4th round players that will easily be replaced by team they are leaving; anybody remember Dexter Jackson from TB a few years ago?

I am not too certain about Bentley in a zone blocking scheme. While athletic for his size and a major upgrade, I don't believe he would be the ideal fit at C for the new offense and not cost-effective...

If the Texans can get Abraham in FA, meaning no trades or picks, they should go for him

Don't think the 'Niners will let Peterson go...

Witherspoon would be excellent; speed and intensity
And because I dislike Buchannon's game so much, Nate Clements, who while suspect in zone coverage, will at least hit somebody when they come through the line...
 
first and foremost...if seattle does not tag steve hutchinson with the franchise tag then he has to be the number one guy we go after

i believe indy is going to slap wayne with the franchise tag so forget him but you have antwaan randle el, antonio bryant, david givens, joe jurevicius, keenan mccardell(houston native), koren robinson, peerless price, and rod gardner who would all make great number 2 recievers...i mention mccardell because he is a houston native at the end of his career which would allow mathis time to develop

of course lecharles bently's name is mentioned frequently on this MB and for good reason...he is a supurb center who would do wonders for us

we also need more quality back up offensive tackles...kevin barry is a guy who is fimiliar with mike sherman and might come cheap...to me he is a slight improvement over seth wand who i see us keeping

chris hope has been mentioned frequently as well but let me give ya'll some other safties that would help us a good deal...corey chavous, dexter jackson, idrees bashir, lance schulters, tank williams, and sam brandon(i think he just re-signed with denver i think)

our main need will be defensive ends and linebacker...i think we need to sign a strong side DE before the draft and some names would be...aaron kampman(would be cheap), anthony weaver, carlos hall, darren howard, kalimba edwards, kyle vanden bosch, and possibly john abraham if not tagged

linebackers who deserve a good look would be...akin ayodele, david thornton(keep in mind signing one of the first two guys would also weaken our divisional rivals), earl holmes, julian peterson, keith adams, kevin bentley, nate wayne, rocky calmus, will witherspoon(might be the best fa LB), and warrick holdman

the guys whose names in bold are the guys i personally would go after
 
I think we should use FA to cut down on some of our draft needs. We don't want to go into the draft with too many needs because that could force reaching and we'd lose a lot of trade leverage.

Chris Hope, FS - An underrated safety who was overshadowed by the long hair of his counterpart. He actually had more picks than Polamalu. I know Polamalu had more of an impact, but Hope would be a great addition to our secondary.

LeCharles Bentley, C/OG - Like everyone knows, we need offensive line help in the worst way. Bentley would be expensive to lure away from Cleveland, but signing him would let us get rid of McKinney and/or Wiegert to save cap money, or at least provide leverage to force restructuring.

Nate Clements, CB - If we sign Bentley, this guy is out of the picture, but if not, he's a good option for a big FA. Buchanon can't be trusted to start at corner if we can help it. We need someone reliable opposite Dunta to force QB's to throw at him.

Aaron Kampman, DE - A solid, servicable DE to fill out a new 4-3 scheme.

John Abraham, DE - We should pursue Bentley first, but if don't get him and this guy is still around, he'll provide an elite pass rusher for our 4-3.

Hopefully we get Bentley (starter), Hope (starter), and Kampman (depth/possible starter).
 
Get A New QB said:
what hope is a GREAT player and anything to our offensive line specially Bently
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define "great" for me. Do you define greatness as having played on a Superbowl team, cuz then you got me...

All I'm saying is rank Hope according to his importance to that defense and he will come up somewhere between Ike Taylor and the guy who runs water on the field during timeouts...
 
Will Witherspoon--Brings that tough attitude that we have needed. Just started coming on strong so he might not be as expensive. He played MLB when Morgan was hurt and plays weakside normally. Younger. He'd fill a spot that we are looking at in the draft.

Bentley--Expensive but a junk yard dog that would automatically lift the line. The may franchise him though.
 
any news on Reggie Wayne?

or with the "Edge" gone .. I imagine that Wayne is their priority now
 
keyfro said:
first and foremost...if seattle does not tag steve hutchinson with the franchise tag then he has to be the number one guy we go after

i believe indy is going to slap wayne with the franchise tag so forget him but you have antwaan randle el, antonio bryant, david givens, joe jurevicius, keenan mccardell(houston native), koren robinson, peerless price, and rod gardner who would all make great number 2 recievers...i mention mccardell because he is a houston native at the end of his career which would allow mathis time to develop

of course lecharles bently's name is mentioned frequently on this MB and for good reason...he is a supurb center who would do wonders for us

we also need more quality back up offensive tackles...kevin barry is a guy who is fimiliar with mike sherman and might come cheap...to me he is a slight improvement over seth wand who i see us keeping

chris hope has been mentioned frequently as well but let me give ya'll some other safties that would help us a good deal...corey chavous, dexter jackson, idrees bashir, lance schulters, tank williams, and sam brandon(i think he just re-signed with denver i think)

our main need will be defensive ends and linebacker...i think we need to sign a strong side DE before the draft and some names would be...aaron kampman(would be cheap), anthony weaver, carlos hall, darren howard, kalimba edwards, kyle vanden bosch, and possibly john abraham if not tagged

linebackers who deserve a good look would be...akin ayodele, david thornton(keep in mind signing one of the first two guys would also weaken our divisional rivals), earl holmes, julian peterson, keith adams, kevin bentley, nate wayne, rocky calmus, will witherspoon(might be the best fa LB), and warrick holdman

the guys whose names in bold are the guys i personally would go after
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I could def go with the highlighted WR's though i would add Peerless Price to that list. He'll be a basement bargain this coming year. If we couldnt land 1 of those WR's though, i'd really work out Mathis in training camp etc to get him up to speed (excuse the pun)...

Vanden Bosch i would go after for sure. It can't hurt to take something away from teh Titans that could help us out...

Will Witherspoon would be a good addition as well though if Jules Peterson could be had for the right deal, he'd be a great target to go after :drool:
 
The Texans should at least talk to Antonio Bryant. He has some head issues, but with Kubiak/Sherman as mother hens on the O they should be able to deal with him. He and AJ would be an extremely dangerous duo.
 
we've been talking a lot recently about possible FA's coming to houston...but there are two players that have been wanting out of their respective teams this offseason...one being ty law and the other being michael haynes

granted that ty law would cost a lot of money to bring in especially after the year he just had with the jets but who better to bring in to get d-rob back on track and to mentor this young db's...the guy is a solid pro-bowl caliber corner who still has all the moves...i think this is a guy that not only would help us out a lot from a physical stand point but add some much needed leadership to this team

michael haynes is the other guy i brought up...he was a 1st round draft pick of the chicago bears i believe in 2003...he's a solid defensive end that just so happens to play behind two of the better DE's in the game...he was an outstanding DE at penn state who i believe could come in here via trade and do some really outstanding work for us

any thoughts?:redtowel:
 
Chris Hope- he is a tough playmaker at the FS spot and would bring a meanstreak to our defense. Likely will get some play in FA and could be signed for a good price.

LeCharles Bentley- wants to go to Cleveland and they have the money to get him, but if we come out early and fast we may be able to sway him to our side.

Other than these two guys I would look for just some cap-friendly hard working players that have a chance to make an impact if given some playing time. Like LBs from Pittsburgh or 5 yr OL DL guys that have some limited playing time and come at really good prices.

Forgot one guy and he is Teyo Johnson TE. The guy is 6'5" receiving TE that can play. He would be similar to Billy Miller other than he is a true-er TE. He blocks better and would be a nice pickup at a cheap price if we decide to part ways with Rivers and Murphy and maybe Bruener.
 
I would say

Nate Clements, David Givens, and maybe Charles Rogers or Kevin Curtis.
Curtis can catch the ball and has amazing speed.
 
John Abraham

David Givens or Reggie Wayne (although, Reggie will probably be back with the Colts)

Ray Lewis or LaVarr Arrington.

Nate Clement

LeCharles Bentley
 
I wouldn't want Reggie Wayne, not just yet anyways. He is a good receiver but also look at the team he played for. He has Marvin Harrison on 1 side which allows him to get a little more open and he had James in the back field making the opposing defense respect the running game and he had Manning throwing to him. I just can't see him doing as good on any other team right now
 
Samer said:
I wouldn't want Reggie Wayne, not just yet anyways. He is a good receiver but also look at the team he played for. He has Marvin Harrison on 1 side which allows him to get a little more open and he had James in the back field making the opposing defense respect the running game and he had Manning throwing to him. I just can't see him doing as good on any other team right now
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Well if he came here, he'd have Andre Johnson on one side, Reggie Bush and Domanick Davis in the backfield and David Carr throwing or handing off to them. It's not like he'd be the only good player on offense.
 
Sorry but I am more pessimistic. Player moves I anticipate as Bush is going to eat up $: Hodgon to start at center with McKinney moving to guard. In new offense, Wand & Pitts should look even better than end of 2005. I do expect to see an OT taken in second. With Gafney/Armstrong in slot, Bush will rotate in and out and be used on reverses. Mathis speed can't be over looked at wide reciever and he only needs to hang on to a pass occasionally to keep from being ignored or he will be sitting in the stands in the end zone celebrating with the fans his 6 points. No free agent or high draft picks here.

Defensive end will be addressed as will corner in third (3a & 3b), an insignificant end will be selected in free agency who will pove ineffective. NO $ will be spent here as Babin will be moved to DE and may even prove to be effective.

Safety: with low $ Brown and Earl who look better than where selected in draft would indicate, no $ will be spent in free agency.

Tight end: Breuner, Rivers, Murphy and that dynamo of the training room Joppru will continue to amaze fans with their productivity. No draft pick higher than 4th round.

Line backer: Greenwood, Wong and Peek maybe a mlb in 4th or 5th and probably a f/agent selection for MLB with some weight in his shoes.

Bye Bye for now! I have to take the battery charger off 1 BAD BOY! Come on summer the boat is ready to scream!
 
Scooter said:
aaron kampman. should be a relatively cheap free agent defensive end and someone who would start right away, lessening the burdon of filling holes entirely through the draft. not exactly a superstar, but a strong upgrade over anyone on the current roster.
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I think Kampman would be a great addition. He plays with a lot of heart and has a motor that doesn't quit. He is the kind of guy that works so hard and is very productive.
 
Bentley because he could help us solidify the O-Line.

Bryant because he would be a great addition to the passing game.

And I know this might sound a little crazy to most but I would pick up R. Calmus from Tenn. This guy was a first rounder and during his rookie season wrecked shop at opposing offense until he was hurt. He's been plagued by a hamstring problem but if this guy is finally healthy he would be a great addittion to our LB core. Plus he wouldn't cause that much damage to our cap!
 
One guy that hasn't been mentioned: Moulds

"Bills general manager Marv Levy acknowledged that Eric Moulds was frustrated with his role on the team last season. However, he said he plans to meet with the veteran wide receiver this month to discuss the situation. "I know Eric had an unsettling season last year, but he finished strong," Levy told the Buffalo News on Monday. "Last season is behind and we hope that we can work something out that he's going to be here." Moulds is scheduled to count $10.8 million against the salary cap in 2006."

In other words, he will take a pay cut or be cut. I hope he is cut.

Age: 33
Height: 6' 2"
Weight: 204 lbs.
In League: 11 Yrs

He should have about 3 good years left. 3 good years to teach AJ/Gaffney/Mathis and a future draftee.
 
kffl is reporting that tennessee is close to re-signing kyle vanden bosch...so there goes that choice

interesting how you mentioned eric moulds because i was thinking the same thing...they have a serious need of a solid DT and we have too many of them...we could send them either gary walker or seth payne which ever they prefer to get moulds...probably have to exchange some picks but who knows...maybe they'll take walker and another dt for moulds
 
keyfro said:
kffl is reporting that tennessee is close to re-signing kyle vanden bosch...so there goes that choice

interesting how you mentioned eric moulds because i was thinking the same thing...they have a serious need of a solid DT and we have too many of them...we could send them either gary walker or seth payne which ever they prefer to get moulds...probably have to exchange some picks but who knows...maybe they'll take walker and another dt for moulds
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NOOOO!!

Why would we want to give up picks in this deep draft to get an underachieving WR that is past his prime?
 
I'm officially on the Hope bandwagon. Archuleta might be a nice pickup.

Smith sounded like he wanted a new stud MLB in the Chronicle today, if Peterson can man it he's worth a shot. Lewis wants MORE money from B-more, so I don't think he'd want any less here... I think he's out of it. Derek Smith is older but underrated. Peterson is intriguing because our plethora of DTs could make his transition to the middle easier.

Bentley sounds like just what we need.

Jamal Lewis would never make it past the character check here, but he's young and if his issues depress his price, he could be a 2000 yard back here. That's more my personal preference for a big workhorse back than anything, pretty unrealistic.

Ty Law and John Abraham are both work a look. Law's still got it and could bring leadership. Abraham fills our biggest defensive need.

How can I forget David Givens... I think he'd help us more than any FA WR outside of Wayne.
 
Farough said:
I would say

Nate Clements, David Givens, and maybe Charles Rogers or Kevin Curtis.
Curtis can catch the ball and has amazing speed.
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Nate Clements- Please hes a perfect answer to our secondary, a awsome cover corner something that we missed out this year after releasing Glenn. im tired of our corners getting beat. Nate can help prevent that.

David Givens- great WR, but we need more of an Antonio Bryant. Bryant has some of the softest hands in the league. he'd be great in the #2 slot.

Kevin Curtis- no way man!! we have Jerome Mathis, he can catch the ball and is proven to be top 3 fastest man in the NFL right now. so no Kevin is a waste of cap room.
 
All this talk about Bentley makes me wonder. Yes he's a pro- bowler, but I'm surprised he's the most wanted lineman on this board. Considering everyone wants a LT. Well enough of my ranting, the lineman I would pursue in FA were it up to me would be Schaffer out of ATL. The guy has 2 yrs. of working with the Zone blocking scheme under his belt, he is their starting LT and he's not that old. Depending on your perspective he might even be considered young. With all that said if he were brought in he would have a greater impact than D'brick (at least for a season) and the impact would be immediate. Also if the Falcons don't resign him their won't be to many teams pursuing him so he could be gotten for a decent price. That's all for now I guess I'll add more people to my want list as I do research. What do you all think about this guy though, (any idea why he isn't brought up much)
 
dat_boy_yec said:
All this talk about Bentley makes me wonder. Yes he's a pro- bowler, but I'm surprised he's the most wanted lineman on this board. Considering everyone wants a LT.
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Well, not everyone wants an LT. Not quite everyone anyway. I think there are more quality free agents for the interior of the line available which makes for more discussion.

I don't know enough about Shaffer to comment on him. I am of the opinion that a rookie LT isn't going to help us much next season.
 
Runner said:
Well, not everyone wants an LT. Not quite everyone anyway. I think there are more quality free agents for the interior of the line available which makes for more discussion.

I don't know enough about Shaffer to comment on him. I am of the opinion that a rookie LT isn't going to help us much next season.
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That's what I'm saying though, alot of people are real high on D'brick and all the tackle prospects in the draft. Yet nobody really makes any mention of this guy who fits most of their criteria in what they want from an LT. He's 6'5''
290 lbs. and is only 25.
 
dat_boy_yec said:
That's what I'm saying though, alot of people are real high on D'brick and all the tackle prospects in the draft. Yet nobody really makes any mention of this guy who fits most of their criteria in what they want from an LT. He's 6'5''
290 lbs. and is only 25.
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I understand your point. In the interest of football talk, I'm glad you brought up a name that hasn't been discussed before. Hopefully people who paid more atttention to Atlanta than I did have something to add.


I personally think we have starting quality tackles on the roster and we need to fix the interior of the line.
 
dat_boy_yec said:
That's what I'm saying though, alot of people are real high on D'brick and all the tackle prospects in the draft. Yet nobody really makes any mention of this guy who fits most of their criteria in what they want from an LT. He's 6'5''
290 lbs. and is only 25.
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I freely admit I don't know squat about Schaffer, but he does have experence in the zone scheme with Atl and seems to be the size that works in it. Certainly worth a look at the very least. Anyone have an idea of how many $$$ it would take and is he a UFA?
 
I would only go after guys who are fairly young, not over priced, we have a positon need for (which is most positions). No block buster guys yet, unless it is something too good to pass up.

I think we build the team through draft, make a few moves in free agency, and make a bigger splash in free agency when we are ready to take a superbowl shot.

We could use a #2 reciever, maybe some depth or low cost upgrades on defense. Maybe a tight end if we have no plans to draft one.

Some how, some way through free agency or the draft we better improve our trenches on both side of the ball.

my personal opinion. (which i am entitled to change on a moments notice.)
 
LBC_Justin said:
We could use a #2 reciever, maybe some depth or low cost upgrades on defense.
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Antonio Bryant--1st round talent, but a head case. He put up 812 yds in 2004 (8 starts) and 1009 in 2005 for Cleveland. Between wunderkind Kyle Shanahan, Sherman and Kubiak they should be able to keep him under control and he should be pretty cheap for the talent level.
 
infantrycak said:
Antonio Bryant--1st round talent, but a head case. He put up 812 yds in 2004 (8 starts) and 1009 in 2005 for Cleveland. Between wunderkind Kyle Shanahan, Sherman and Kubiak they should be able to keep him under control and he should be pretty cheap for the talent level.
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Same could be said for Charles Rogers who has even more talent. He is my choice for inexpensive #2 WR FA.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
Same could be said for Charles Rogers who has even more talent. He is my choice for inexpensive #2 WR FA.
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He'd have to come just about free. Even healthy last year he only gained 197 yds. More importantly he has already had 3 strikes in the drug testing program. The next one is a year suspension. He also has 4 more years left on his contract although the Lions could waive him. I wouldn't trade a 1st day pick for him. Bryant is an UFA.
 
edo783 said:
I freely admit I don't know squat about Schaffer, but he does have experence in the zone scheme with Atl and seems to be the size that works in it. Certainly worth a look at the very least. Anyone have an idea of how many $$$ it would take and is he a UFA?
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In his rookie contract he's never made over 500,000 a year and he is unrestricted. I don't know how much money he would cost to sign though.
 
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