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Who do we take....???

Who should the Texans take?

  • Sam Baker- LT- USC

    Votes: 23 46.9%

  • Jonathan Stewart- RB- Oregon

    Votes: 10 20.4%

  • Kenny Phillips- FS- Miami

    Votes: 13 26.5%

  • Mike Jenkins- CB- South Florida

    Votes: 2 4.1%

  • Dan Conner- OLB- Penn St.

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • Total voters
    49
Ole Miss Texan

Ole Miss Texan

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Well, I think everyone is freaking out about our season. I don't really see us getting to 8-8 this season anymore so let's just assume we finish 6-10...we have 3 more victories the rest of the year and we'll pretend they are against oakland, new orleans, and tennessee of course :)

So if we end up with the #8 overall pick and the following players are all available...who do we take? These are the top prospects at their positions and of needs for the Texans.

1. Make your pick
2. Post who you selected and why

There are going to be valid arguements for each guy...but if you feel like it please rank the players of the order you'd select them over each other.
 
I'll start off and say I would love any of these players, however if I had to choose one I would take Sam Baker. I think we need to fix our OL and get a guy to anchor that spot for 10+ years, protect Schaub b/c he is getting beat up, and open up running lanes for our RB's.

I also really like Stewart and Phillips....these are my top 3 guys...order-wise I'm not so sure.
 
If it's offense in the first round, it needs to be a lineman. We can't draft a RB and hope that he can fix our problems. We have to start from the inside out.

If it's defense, it obviously should be a defensive back.... and probably a safety. I haven't seen any of these guys play but I sure hope they don't get overlooked by our scouts and staff.
 
the best way to take pressure off your QB is a solid running game. until the Texans address this need with a legitimate power/explosive downhill type back, Kubiaks system of a balanced attack that worked in Denver will struggle its too one-dimensional, predictable & easily stopped.

Jonathan Stewart

ps. Ole Miss but I've been watching Sam Baker for a couple years now & he keeps looking older & battle worn each outing. this past weekend against Oregon it looked to me like he hyper-extended his knee & had to remove himself from the field :ouch:
 
Jonathan Stewart or Dan Connor.

If we are top 10 then I'm not sure Phillips is worth the pick. He still has an impact in the running game but he looks like less of a playmaker against the pass back there than he did last year.
 
beerlover- That's too bad about Baker...how do you feel about Ryan Clady? Is he a guy that could sneak up into a top 10-15 pick and be good for the Texans?

gwallaia- I'm not sure if Rice is declaring or not. He's a RB I really like but not in the top half of the 1st round...I'd take him if we traded down.

bah007- I see Stewart and Connor as being solid picks. I think they are safe picks and we know what we're getting... studs. That concerns me about Phillips though, I just really really want a ball-hawking FS...I hope he steps it up.
 
I do not normally participate in draft discussions so early since its hard to know who is in and who is not. Also we have no idea where the Texans will be drafting. That being said, if we were in fact picking 8 I would not select any of those players. We have too many holes as it is, and one player will not make a difference.

So, here is what I would do:
I would trade our 8th pick to the team picking 20 for their #20, #52, and #84. The math works perfectly here. If this occurs we would have #20,#52, #72, and #84.

This would allow us to fill our many holes with very good players. Here are some potential names to consider.
#20: Ryan Clady: OT-Boise State:We need a strong LT and he seems to be a great fit

#52: Terrell Thomas:CB- USC: Put him with Dunta, slide Bennett over to nickle and you now have a very impressive CB group. Oh, and this means we can finally cut Faggins!

#72: Cory Boyd: RB-South Carolina: He has 4.48 speed, has good hands, and can carry the rock through a very tough SEC schedule. I think he would look good in a Texans uni.

#84: Jonathan Hefney, FS, Tennessee. From what i am seeing there are not a lot of good senior FS. This might be the second best one available.

All of these picks seem reasonable(right now) and all could step in and start tomorrow for the Texans. The key to building a successful team is through the draft and wise FA moves. This only takes into account the draft. Clealry we will have a lot of $ to throw around in the off season. I suggest we use some of that money to resign Dunta.
 
awtysst said:
I do not normally participate in draft discussions so early since its hard to know who is in and who is not. Also we have no idea where the Texans will be drafting. That being said, if we were in fact picking 8 I would not select any of those players. We have too many holes as it is, and one player will not make a difference.

So, here is what I would do:
I would trade our 8th pick to the team picking 20 for their #20, #52, and #84. The math works perfectly here. If this occurs we would have #20,#52, #72, and #84.

This would allow us to fill our many holes with very good players. Here are some potential names to consider.
#20: Ryan Clady: OT-Boise State:We need a strong LT and he seems to be a great fit

#52: Terrell Thomas:CB- USC: Put him with Dunta, slide Bennett over to nickle and you now have a very impressive CB group. Oh, and this means we can finally cut Faggins!

#72: Cory Boyd: RB-South Carolina: He has 4.48 speed, has good hands, and can carry the rock through a very tough SEC schedule. I think he would look good in a Texans uni.

#84: Jonathan Hefney, FS, Tennessee. From what i am seeing there are not a lot of good senior FS. This might be the second best one available.

All of these picks seem reasonable(right now) and all could step in and start tomorrow for the Texans. The key to building a successful team is through the draft and wise FA moves. This only takes into account the draft. Clealry we will have a lot of $ to throw around in the off season. I suggest we use some of that money to resign Dunta.
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I like that scenario, but I like Craig Steltz over Hefney. And maybe Xavier Abibi over Thomas. I think Bennett will prove to be a solid #2 CB.

Still, I voted for Phillips. If we have another top ten pick and choose not to trade down, Phillips is the best value pick in my opinion. I wouldn't be upset if we went with Ryan Clady or Jonathan Stewart though.
 
McFaddin Falls we switch with Dallas. Dallas selects Darrin McFaddin in the four slot. Texan get 15, 31 and Dallas' 2nd in '08 & '09

1. # 15 over all -Ryan Clady Boise St.
2. # 31 over all - Ezra Butler LB Nevada
3 Dallas 2nd- Reggie smith DB OU
4. our 3- Heath Benedict OL Newberry
5. our 4- Doug Legurski C Marshall

Trade our Extra '09 2 for Turner the burner. But be carefull what you wish for you just may get it.

But to answer the original question I get the best OLineman I can get my hands on. What we have isn't going to develope into a top ten unit. Can I get an ahmen ? If they don't like the guys in that slot you trade back untill the pick fits the need. If they can't do that BPA. I'd guess over pay for a big Corner who has S experence or who translates to safty at the end of his career.
 
I understand the idea of addressing multiple needs via the draft in a trade down scenero, but that was not the option of this poll "who do you take....???"

that said, Clady is a better fit for this team over Baker (not listed). I would love to draft a good young LT, that would be a tough, tough decision to make between Clady & Stewart but I think Stewart grades out higher, again bpa in this scenero as well :specnatz:
 
I voted Sam Baker, but really, I haven't seen Baker play since last year, so I don't know how he's doing. I'm basically voting for a left tackle. Every year, we fans (and evidently the team) make excuses why we shouldn't draft a left tackle (and later, a center). Every year, this is what we get. From 2002-2004, Carr was making progress, and could have been a good QB in this league, even with what shortcomings he had. Anyone remember David Carr vs. the Vikings in 2004? Anyone remember the heart against the Falcons in 2003? etc., etc., etc. Eventually, it all caught up to him, and he became the "happy feet, ohmygod I'm going to get hit, tuck-and-curl or run out of bounds" David Carr. We all hated that. We have a QB right now that can be a good QB in this league. How long before he turns into the next DC? Granted, it's early to ask that question, but it's worth asking, because I don't want to see another DC here.

Fix the damn offensive line already.
 
Come draft time I think there is a distinct possability that we'll have our shot at McFaddin and if that is the case its McFaddin over all...including all the LTs.
 
swtbound07 said:
we start CC F'ing Brown. Kenny Phillips, craig Steltz, who the F ever. new free safety. Its not optional.
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We are also starting Ahman Green, Salaam, Flannagan, Pitts, Clark, Weaver, Hutchins, Greenwood and Faggins.

Oh how I wish FS was our only issue
 
I hate that this is what Texans fans do mid season every year....it's like a rich tradition.
 
here is an interesting angle that I have to give Vinny credit for :vinny: to paraphrase he said that winning teams can still draft better football players than the Texans late in the first round think about it, I think its a valid point.

I'm not sure if its a function of needs or trying to hit the guy with the biggest upside or just the pressure with top 10 draft picks? but they (Pats/Colts) seem to hit the mark repeatedly & produce enough to keep them ahead of the curve, mixing experience with talent balancing the salary cap & enhancing team chemistry.

If the Texans reach for a LT because they need one or think he is the bpa they should think twice & for a change just draft the best football player (bfp) period, now theres a novel concept. case in point - DeMeco Ryans.

if you want a LT thats a football player forget about bpa & draft a player who fits the Texans system, is durable, understands his positions nuances, studies film like a scholar, is selfless putting his teamates 1st, is a warrior & has game to back it up. more & more its apparent this has become a game of psychological warfare the Texans are losing that directly translates to winning football.
 
beerlover said:
here is an interesting angle that I have to give Vinny credit for :vinny: to paraphrase he said that winning teams can still draft better football players than the Texans late in the first round think about it, I think its a valid point.

I'm not sure if its a function of needs or trying to hit the guy with the biggest upside or just the pressure with top 10 draft picks? but they (Pats/Colts) seem to hit the mark repeatedly & produce enough to keep them ahead of the curve, mixing experience with talent balancing the salary cap & enhancing team chemistry.

If the Texans reach for a LT because they need one or think he is the bpa they should think twice & for a change just draft the best football player (bfp) period, now theres a novel concept. case in point - DeMeco Ryans.

if you want a LT thats a football player forget about bpa & draft a player who fits the Texans system, is durable, understands his positions nuances, studies film like a scholar, is selfless putting his teamates 1st, is a warrior & has game to back it up. more & more its apparent this has become a game of psychological warfare the Texans are losing that directly translates to winning football.
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Is it possible that a team like Pats and Colts draft picks look better than ours because they have better players around them and less pressure to be "worth the pick"?

I have always been a proponent of a LT. I am not sure Baker is the guy, but with a trade down, Clady could look like a smart pick. We need to protect Schaub or he will become a Carr. I am now leaning towards RB if the right one is there, BUT I just do not see Smith drafting one with our commitment to Green for at least one more year. $6-7 million guaranteed is a lot to swallow.

The gamecock RB was suspended in 2005 for "non academic" issues and when he came back I understand he missed practice. Has that been cleared up? Slashing a lady's tire is serious but maybe he has matured.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
What else are we supposed to do, plan a play-off watch party or something?

:sarcasm:
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That was part of the original 5 year plan. We are now on our 2nd 5 year plan. Starting to sound like the old USSR. 5 year plans worked well for them. Putin will announced his any day.
 
beerlover said:
here is an interesting angle that I have to give Vinny credit for :vinny: to paraphrase he said that winning teams can still draft better football players than the Texans late in the first round think about it, I think its a valid point.
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one of the main reasons they manage to hit so many key guys in the latter part of round one is coaching. the rookies just have a better coaching staff and do better because of that. especially if a team with poor coaching drafts a pretty raw player early on.
 
kastofsna said:
one of the main reasons they manage to hit so many key guys in the latter part of round one is coaching. the rookies just have a better coaching staff and do better because of that. especially if a team with poor coaching drafts a pretty raw player early on.
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certainly thats one.

could be they just have a better understanding of the total process from start to finish.
 
I voted for Baker, but I'd rather trade down to get extra picks. We need a LT for Schaub plus our line looks like they're getting pushed backwards inside the 5 yard line. I'd like to get a C too.:twocents:
 
If you believe Schaub is the longterm answer here........bite the bullet, support your guy, and get him a damn LT.......period.

Do y'all realize in the time the Texans have been searching for a long term answer at LT, ALL OUR DIVISIONAL RIVALS HAVE REPLACED THEIR OLD ONES AND FOUND ANOTHER.

Fix the Oline.
 
beerlover said:
If the Texans reach for a LT because they need one or think he is the bpa they should think twice & for a change just draft the best football player (bfp) period, now theres a novel concept. case in point - DeMeco Ryans.
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Demeco Ryans was a great pick. Last year I thought Patrick Willis was the safest pick in the entire draft. You know exactly what your going to get with him and that's a stud. IMO he was basically risk free...sure fire great player.

This year, I'm starting to think Jonathan Stewart is that pick. I think Stewart is going to be such a solid running back and not risky at all. When we get to FS like Phillips or a LT like Clady or Baker...I think it becomes more risky.

You take the chance of really upgrading your team with a stud LT but then again he may not turn out to be that. I think a LT would do the most for this team but it's more Risky of a pick. I think if we pick stewart, we know exactly what we're getting and that is a good thing because he's "guaranteed" to be good, in my opinion.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
Demeco Ryans was a great pick. Last year I thought Patrick Willis was the safest pick in the entire draft. You know exactly what your going to get with him and that's a stud. IMO he was basically risk free...sure fire great player.

This year, I'm starting to think Jonathan Stewart is that pick. I think Stewart is going to be such a solid running back and not risky at all. When we get to FS like Phillips or a LT like Clady or Baker...I think it becomes more risky.

You take the chance of really upgrading your team with a stud LT but then again he may not turn out to be that. I think a LT would do the most for this team but it's more Risky of a pick. I think if we pick stewart, we know exactly what we're getting and that is a good thing because he's "guaranteed" to be good, in my opinion.
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well at least we're getting closer to some answears. the Texans need to maximize bang for the buck & your correct in your conclusion its safer plus you get more bang for your buck by addressing LB or RB. Does anyone remember the Texans expansion team led by then ILB Jamie Sharper? everyone says take a LT take a LT but they just don't apparate out of thin air like some wizard in Harry Potter or grow in trees like apples & oranges.

last year there where those who laughed at me when I wanted the Texans to draft Levi Brown, said he wasnt good enough, didnt fit the scheme, yada yada yada well we didnt even get that choice because someone ahead of us thought better of it. Now come next draft if the Texans are staring down Jake Long with their selection then go for it by all means otherwise we'll all just have to hold our collective breath & hope Charles Spencer makes a full recovery or new tackle (not Baker) can grasp the concept of what it means to play LT in the NFL & not someones jersey for a holding call.
 
swtbound07 said:
we start CC F'ing Brown. Kenny Phillips, craig Steltz, who the F ever. new free safety. Its not optional.
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The HC today on his show on 610 gave an impenetrable , I post again , impenetrable endorcement of C.C. Brown. We ain't drafting a FS on day one.
He likes his safties.
 
threetoedpete said:
The HC today on his show on 610 gave an impenetrable , I post again , impenetrable endorcement of C.C. Brown. We ain't drafting a FS on day one.
He likes his safties.
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CC is our SS now...but with Boulware...Glenn eventually coming back from injury...drafting of B. Harrison last year.. we've got a lot of SS's. I guess CC would move back to FS.
 
I voted for Sam Baker but am willing to take the best Left Tackle available with our first pick. Our secondary might be crap right now, but losing our franchise QB to injury because of current LT can't shift his weight is worse. Much worse in the long term. Salaam has to go back to the bench and Schaub deserves better. Here's my top LT prospects in order of preference....
1. Jake Long Michigan (it would be great to get him, but it would also suck because we're picking in the top ten...again)
2. Gosdner Cherilus BC (been very impressed watching him play, seems to be very comfortable switching from RT to LT this year)
3. Sam Baker USC (great prospect but excels in the passing game while inconsistent at the running game)
4. Tony Hills UT (above average LT but has been know to get beat by inferior competition. Plays too high at times which causes him to lose leverage. Houston native)

Best Underclassmen
1. Phil Loadholt Oklahoma (6'8" 350 lb. man-child. Doing a solid job with limited D-I experience. Instant starter once transfered from JC. Is also deceivingly quick. Possibly be available in the 2nd/3rd Round??)
2. Ryan Clady Boise St.(seems athletic but his lower body strength is a concern.)
 
Originally Posted by Vinny
I hate that this is what Texans fans do mid season every year....it's like a rich tradition.


Yep, it is what Texans fans do..... after the loss last week my first inclination was head to the draft forum and start finding the next group of Houston Texans.

The thing is I think we draft ok, its not like we're letting Matt Millen draft for us. Things break down once they become Texans, the schemes we run just don't work with the talent we have.
 
So after doing some reading around the internet, apparently Malcolm Jenkins from Ohio St. is the best CB if he declares? Plays man-to-man and has good size, 6-1 208lbs.

I was thinking about 'what if this guy was rated higher than all the others on our board'...so we select him. As much needs as we have on our team, its still not like cb is a strength...

Can you imagine how good our cb's would be if we had Dunta Robinson (top 10 pick)...Malcolm Jenkins (top 10 pick) as our starters and then Fred Bennet coming off the bench...with Faggins backing up! That would be awesome cb's and probably our biggest strength on the team!
 
For those of you who don't know this is a deep draft for tackles, you do not have to take Joe Thomas or bust in the top 15,

My OT to Watch list. (not in any order)

Jake Long 6-7 305 Michigan
Sam Baker 6-5 308 Southern California
Michael Oher 6-6 322 Ole Miss
Jeff Otah 6-6 340 Pitt
Andrew Gardner 6-6 300 Georgia Tech (Jr)
Chris Williams 6-6 320 Vanderbilt
Phil Loadholt 6-7 350 Oklahoma (JC Xfer)
Ryan Clady 6-6 319 Boise St. Jr.
Kirk Barton 6-6 300 Ohio St. (RT)
Alex Boone 6-7 315 Ohio St. (LT) Jr.
Breno Giacomini 6-7 305 Louisville (because I like his name)

I am not saying all these guys are first rounders, they are just guys that have caught my eye, there are others that will go in the top 120 picks. My favorite two guys are Clady and Boone, both juniors, both have great feet. And both can be had after a trade down based on current rankings.

As for seniors Williams and Oher have impressed me, and they can be had mid round, or maybe push Baker out of the top 10. Our current pick of 9 would have us taking a dang good OT, and a trade down could net us a 2nd and 3rd rounder and still a stud OT in the 1st. Trade down is my vote, is every year we have been a team.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
Can you imagine how good our cb's would be if we had Dunta Robinson (top 10 pick)...Malcolm Jenkins (top 10 pick) as our starters and then Fred Bennet coming off the bench...with Faggins backing up! That would be awesome cb's and probably our biggest strength on the team!
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That would be nice, but our safeties still need a huge upgrade. And I am wondering if it's not time for a new DB coach.
 
Sam Baker only because if we use our first pick on the Defense again I may jump off a cliff.

The line needs help.
 
painekiller said:
For those of you who don't know this is a deep draft for tackles, you do not have to take Joe Thomas or bust in the top 15,

My OT to Watch list. (not in any order)

Jake Long 6-7 305 Michigan
Sam Baker 6-5 308 Southern California
Michael Oher 6-6 322 Ole Miss
Jeff Otah 6-6 340 Pitt
Andrew Gardner 6-6 300 Georgia Tech (Jr)
Chris Williams 6-6 320 Vanderbilt
Phil Loadholt 6-7 350 Oklahoma (JC Xfer)
Ryan Clady 6-6 319 Boise St. Jr.
Kirk Barton 6-6 300 Ohio St. (RT)
Alex Boone 6-7 315 Ohio St. (LT) Jr.
Breno Giacomini 6-7 305 Louisville (because I like his name)

I am not saying all these guys are first rounders, they are just guys that have caught my eye, there are others that will go in the top 120 picks. My favorite two guys are Clady and Boone, both juniors, both have great feet. And both can be had after a trade down based on current rankings.

As for seniors Williams and Oher have impressed me, and they can be had mid round, or maybe push Baker out of the top 10. Our current pick of 9 would have us taking a dang good OT, and a trade down could net us a 2nd and 3rd rounder and still a stud OT in the 1st. Trade down is my vote, is every year we have been a team.
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I'd be thrilled with a trade down and get a great LT. However like you said not many of these guys are 1st round guys. i'm not familiar with some of them but would they even fit this team?

Guestimating at this point:
Senior Jake Long- 1st rounder-probably long gone by the time we pick...won't be had in a trade down.
Senior Sam Baker-1st rounder- have a shot at him...don't think we can get him if we trade down.
Senior Jeff Otah- I havn't seen him as 1st round talent so we could def. get him in a trade down. He's a huge guy but from what I've read he's more of a RT in the pros...so i wouldn't pencil him in as a solid LT pick for us yet. (2nd-3rd rd guy?)
Senior Chris Williams- I havn't seen or heard much of him but what i have is good. He could be underated at this point and can be had in a trade down... he could be a good option for us at LT(2nd-3rd rd guy?)-good trade down guy
Senior Kirk Barton- As you mentioned a RT...not sure if we're going to trade down to pick up a RT to switch him to LT in the pros...Don't see him as our stud guy to get...but I havn't watched him.
Senior Breno Giacomini- Awesome name...

so of the seniors..I only see 2 1st round talents that won't be had in a trade down.

Underclassmen:
Michael Oher- he's a junior and I feel pretty confident he's going to stay for his senior year. It would do him well b/c the limited action I've seen him in..he hasn't been dominant. At this point I think he's a late first/ early second type of pick because he has so much potential and can play all along the line. Should he stay in school and get one more year under his belt..he should be a top 20 pick easy for 2009 (probably a 5-15 pick).
Andrew Gardner-know nothing about him
Phil Loadholt- I've heard good things about this guy not sure if he comes out if he'd be late 1st or early 2nd...sounds like a stud..good trade down guy.
Ryan Clady- Heard more positives about him than most other prospects, probably a mid 1st rounder to late 1st? Excellent trade down guy.
Alex Boone- don't know anything about him but havn't heard much of him being a early pick if he declares...

So with limited knowledge on these prospects and purely speculating at this point..I don't really see us getting a crack at a bonafide stud LT. We've got 6 guys that are for sure entering the draft, 2 of whom will not be had in a trade down from our #9. 2 of whom are probably more suited for RT. 1 definite viable option and 1 I don't know about. Of the 5 underclassmen...how many are really going to declare? Oher I dont think will. That leaves Ryan Clady and Phil Loadholt as two guys I know some of that sound really good. The other two I'm unfamiliar with.

So if half the juniors declare and we trade down..I really see probably 3 or 4 viable options for us at LT for next season...assuming they grade out to be a late 1st, or 2nd/3rd round guys. I'm also assuming these guys would be ones we would target and fit our system (whatever the hell system this is).

All in all thanks a lot for posting your watch list. As you can see I'm unfamiliar with many of them so this will be a great list many of us can go off of and try to watch.
 
painekiller said:
That would be nice, but our safeties still need a huge upgrade. And I am wondering if it's not time for a new DB coach.
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I've been wondering a similar thing...about a new DB coach. Mr. Hoke needs to turn things around.

The free safety position is the one position that has me scratching my head the most about. I ...scuse me...all of us fans seem to thing its a huge problem. We see all the blown assignments, being late to the wr, completely missing a wr/te several times. I think the safeties have hurt our secondary more than our cb's. However...everything I hear from Kubiak and the other coaches is that it doesn't seem to be a big deal to them. CC is playing well, Faggins is the other guy at cb...hutching is good. I just don't get it. If we have Faggins at Cb AND either CC or Hutchins at FS...we will ALWAYS have a bad secondary.

somethings gotta be done there but for some strange feeling I feel like nothing will ever change.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
I've been wondering a similar thing...about a new DB coach. Mr. Hoke needs to turn things around.

The free safety position is the one position that has me scratching my head the most about. I ...scuse me...all of us fans seem to thing its a huge problem. We see all the blown assignments, being late to the wr, completely missing a wr/te several times. I think the safeties have hurt our secondary more than our cb's. However...everything I hear from Kubiak and the other coaches is that it doesn't seem to be a big deal to them. CC is playing well, Faggins is the other guy at cb...hutching is good. I just don't get it. If we have Faggins at Cb AND either CC or Hutchins at FS...we will ALWAYS have a bad secondary.

somethings gotta be done there but for some strange feeling I feel like nothing will ever change.
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Phillips has not been playing that well this year, and is more of a SS than a FS. I think FS is a natural position that you either are born to play or aren't. Brown is obviously not a FS, but I feel that Craig Steltz is a natural FS and he isn't a first round guy. He isn't an athletic freak, he is just a player. He makes good things happen, and that is all we can ask for. He takes good angles, and he understands where to be and what to do around the ball.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
Phillips has not been playing that well this year, and is more of a SS than a FS. I think FS is a natural position that you either are born to play or aren't. Brown is obviously not a FS, but I feel that Craig Steltz is a natural FS and he isn't a first round guy. He isn't an athletic freak, he is just a player. He makes good things happen, and that is all we can ask for. He takes good angles, and he understands where to be and what to do around the ball.
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Too bad we dont have a 2nd round pick.

I dont see Steltz falling to the 3rd. He's been solid all year.
 
bah007 said:
Too bad we dont have a 2nd round pick.

I dont see Steltz falling to the 3rd. He's been solid all year.
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But we could have one if we do trade down for a LT in 1st, FS in 2nd, a RB in 3rd, center in 4th, OLB in 5th. If Samuel can play more than cover 2, we could get him in FA. As we are going to win the majority of our remaining games, this scenario will not play out.:user:
 
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