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What the mocks are saying - Post Combine

Lucky

Lucky

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I looked at the following post combine mocks:

NFL.com (Lance Zierlein)
The Athletic (Dane Brugler)
ESPN (Jordan Reid)
CBS Sports (Ryan Wilson & Rick Spielman)

The results as far as the area players would go were pretty consistent. Here is where the players land in all 4 mocks.

Unanimous Players in Top 10 (6)
Caleb Williams QB USC
Jayden Daniels QB LSU
Drake Maye QB North Carolina
Marvin Harrison Jr WR Ohio State
Malik Nabers WR LSU
Joe Alt OT Notre Dame

Unanimous Players inside the Top 22 (10)
Rome Odunze WR Washington
Jared Verse EDG Florida State
Tailese Fuaga OT Oregon State
Dallas Turner EDG Alabama
Brock Bowers TE Georgia
Byron Murphy DL Texas
Olu Fashanu OT Penn State
Terrion Arnold CB Alabama
JJ McCarthy QB Michigan
Quinyon Mitchell CB Toledo

Unanimous Players taken somewhere in 1st round (10)
JC Latham OT Alabama
Troy Fautanu OG Washington
Brian Thomas WR LSU
Nate Wiggins CB Clemson
Chop Robinson EDG Penn State
Laita Latu EDG UCLA
Tyler Guyton OT Oklahoma
Amarius Mims OT Georgia
Jackson Powers-Johnson C Oregon
Cooper DeJean CB Iowa

Players listed in 1st round in 1-3 mocks (11)
AD Mitchell WR Texas
Xavier Worthy WR Texas
Darius Robinson EDG Missouri
Johnny Newton DL Illinois
Jordan Morgan OT Arizona
Graham Barton C Duke
Kool-Aid McKinstry CB Alabama
Ennis Rakestraw CB Missouri
Ladd McConkey WR Georgia
Keon Coleman WR Florida State
Bralen Trice EDG Washington

Only 37 players listed as possible 1st round picks. One catch I see is that Penix and Nix are not listed as 1st rounders in any of these mocks. I believe teams that miss out or pass on a QB in the 1st round, (maybe the Giants, Raiders, Falcons, or Vikings) will trade back into the 1st to get these 2 QBs and the 5th year options. I think there will be some pretty decent players that get out of the 1st round, and trading back into the top third of the 2nd round is a good option.
 
Lucky said:
I looked at the following post combine mocks:

NFL.com (Lance Zierlein)
The Athletic (Dane Brugler)
ESPN (Jordan Reid)
CBS Sports (Ryan Wilson & Rick Spielman)

The results as far as the area players would go were pretty consistent. Here is where the players land in all 4 mocks.

Unanimous Players in Top 10 (6)
Caleb Williams QB USC
Jayden Daniels QB LSU
Drake Maye QB North Carolina
Marvin Harrison Jr WR Ohio State
Malik Nabers WR LSU
Joe Alt OT Notre Dame

Unanimous Players inside the Top 22 (10)
Rome Odunze WR Washington
Jared Verse EDG Florida State
Tailese Fuaga OT Oregon State
Dallas Turner EDG Alabama
Brock Bowers TE Georgia
Byron Murphy DL Texas
Olu Fashanu OT Penn State
Terrion Arnold CB Alabama
JJ McCarthy QB Michigan
Quinyon Mitchell CB Toledo

Unanimous Players taken somewhere in 1st round (10)
JC Latham OT Alabama
Troy Fautanu OG Washington
Brian Thomas WR LSU
Nate Wiggins CB Clemson
Chop Robinson EDG Penn State
Laita Latu EDG UCLA
Tyler Guyton OT Oklahoma
Amarius Mims OT Georgia
Jackson Powers-Johnson C Oregon
Cooper DeJean CB Iowa

Players listed in 1st round in 1-3 mocks (11)
AD Mitchell WR Texas
Xavier Worthy WR Texas
Darius Robinson EDG Missouri
Johnny Newton DL Illinois
Jordan Morgan OT Arizona
Graham Barton C Duke
Kool-Aid McKinstry CB Alabama
Ennis Rakestraw CB Missouri
Ladd McConkey WR Georgia
Keon Coleman WR Florida State
Bralen Trice EDG Washington

Only 37 players listed as possible 1st round picks. One catch I see is that Penix and Nix are not listed as 1st rounders in any of these mocks. I believe teams that miss out or pass on a QB in the 1st round, (maybe the Giants, Raiders, Falcons, or Vikings) will trade back into the 1st to get these 2 QBs and the 5th year options. I think there will be some pretty decent players that get out of the 1st round, and trading back into the top third of the 2nd round is a good option.
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This is what I predict tricky Nick will do this draft.
He has said that pushing some cap into next year is the thing to do so I imagine high draft picks are viewed as valuable assets too so I can't see him burning those this year unless they gotta have a guy in the top of the 2nd.
I'm not ruling out a small move back in the first.
 
Texansphan said:
This is what I predict tricky Nick will do this draft.
He has said that pushing some cap into next year is the thing to do so I imagine high draft picks are viewed as valuable assets too so I can't see him burning those this year unless they gotta have a guy in the top of the 2nd.
I'm not ruling out a small move back in the first.
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He will either stay put at 1-23 or trade down.
 
Interesting compilation from Houstontexans,com showing the latest Texans mock pick at 1.23.

22 different players out of 46 mocks.


MOCK DRAFT TEXANS SELECTION
1. PRO FOOTBALL FOCUS (GORDON MCGUINNESS) DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS
2. HOUSTON CHRONICLE (JONATHAN ALEXANDER) DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS
3. CBS SPORTS (RYAN WILSON) DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS
4. 33RD TEAM (MARCUS MOSHER) DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS
5. SPORTS ILLUSTRATED (LUKE EASTERLING) DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS
6. FANTASY LIFE (MATTHEW FREEDMAN) DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS
7. PRO FOOTBALL FOCUS (TREVOR SIKKEMA) DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS

1. HOUSTONTEXANS.COM/FOOTBALLTAKEOVER.COM (JOHN HARRIS) DE LAIATU LATU, UCLA
2. THE ATHLETIC (DANE BRUGLER) DE LAIATU LATU, UCLA
3. ESPN (JORDAN REID) DE LAIATU LATU, UCLA
4. PRO FOOTBALL NETWORK (ADAM CAPLAN) DE LAIATU LATU, UCLA
5. CBS SPORTS (TOM FORNELLI) DE LAIATU LATU, UCLA

1. LOS ANGELES TIMES (SAM FARMER) WR BRIAN THOMAS, JR. LSU
2. NFL.COM (DANIEL JEREMIAH) WR BRIAN THOMAS, JR. LSU
3. PRO FOOTBALL NETWORK (OLIVER HODGKINSON) WR BRIAN THOMAS, JR. LSU
4. THE ATHLETIC (NICK BAUMGARDNER) WR BRIAN THOMAS, JR. LSU

1. NFL.COM (CHARLES DAVIS) CB NATE WIGGINS, CLEMSON
2. CBS SPORTS (KYLE STACKPOLE) CB NATE WIGGINS, CLEMSON
3. SHARP FOOTBALL (BRENDAN DONOHUE) CB NATE WIGGINS, CLEMSON
4. SHARP FOOTBALL ANALYSIS (RYAN MCCRYSTAL) CB NATE WIGGINS, CLEMSON

1. NFL.COM (LANCE ZIERLEIN) CB QUINYON MITCHELL, TOLEDO
2. SHARP FOOTBALL ANALYSIS (RYAN MCCRYSTAL) CB QUINYON MITCHELL, TOLEDO
3. NFL.COM (CYNTHIA FRELUND) CB QUINYON MITCHELL, TOLEDO

1. SPORTING NEWS (VINNIE IYER) DT BYRON MURPHY, II TEXAS
2. NFL.COM (BUCKY BROOKS) DT BYRON MURPHY, II TEXAS
3. 33RD TEAM (CONNOR LIVESAY) DT BYRON MURPHY, II TEXAS

1. CBS SPORTS (CHRIS TRAPASSO) DE CHOP ROBINSON, PENN STATE
2. BLEACHER REPORT (SCOUTING DEPARTMENT) DE CHOP ROBINSON, PENN STATE
3. CBS SPORTS (JOSH EDWADS) DE CHOP ROBINSON, PENN STATE

1. ESPN (MEL KIPER, JR.) OL TYLER GUYTON, OKLAHOMA ST.
2. NFL.COM (CHAD REUTER) OL TYLER GUYTON, OKLAHOMA ST.

1. ESPN (MATT MILLER) CB KOOL-AID MCKINSTRY, ALABAMA
2. FANTASY PROS (ANDREW ERICKSON) CB KOOL-AID MCKINSTRY, ALABAMA

USA TODAY (DOUG FARRAR) CB TERRION ARNOLD, ALABAMA
CBS SPORTS (WILL BRINSON) DL AUSTIN BOOKER, KANSAS
PRO FOOTBALL NETWORK (IAN CUMMINGS) DB COOPER DEJEAN, IOWA
THE ATHLETIC (DIANTE LEE) OL TROY FAUTANU, WASHINGTON
THE DRAFT NETWORK (KEITH SANCHEZ) DT BRADEN FISKE, FLORIDA STATE
WALTER FOOTBALL (CHARLIE CAMPBELL) DT KRIS JENKINS, MICHIGAN
WALTER FOOTBALL (WALTER CHEREPINSKY) OL JORDAN MORGAN, ARIZONA
FOX SPORTS (ROB RANG) OT PATRICK PAUL, HOUSTON
ESPN (FIELD YATES) CB ENNIS RAKESTRAW, MISSOURI
THE RINGER (DANNY KELLY) DE DARIUS ROBINSON, MISSOURI
DRAFT COUNTDOWN (SHANE HALLAM) DT T’VONDRE SWEAT, TEXAS
OURLADS DE BRALEN TRICE, WASHINGTON
USA TODAY (NATE DAVIS) DE JARED VERSE, FLORIDA STATE
 
Lucky said:
Interesting compilation from Houstontexans,com showing the latest Texans mock pick at 1.23.

22 different players out of 46 mocks.


MOCK DRAFT TEXANS SELECTION
1. PRO FOOTBALL FOCUS (GORDON MCGUINNESS) DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS
2. HOUSTON CHRONICLE (JONATHAN ALEXANDER) DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS
3. CBS SPORTS (RYAN WILSON) DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS
4. 33RD TEAM (MARCUS MOSHER) DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS
5. SPORTS ILLUSTRATED (LUKE EASTERLING) DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS
6. FANTASY LIFE (MATTHEW FREEDMAN) DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS
7. PRO FOOTBALL FOCUS (TREVOR SIKKEMA) DT JOHNNY NEWTON, ILLINOIS

1. HOUSTONTEXANS.COM/FOOTBALLTAKEOVER.COM (JOHN HARRIS) DE LAIATU LATU, UCLA
2. THE ATHLETIC (DANE BRUGLER) DE LAIATU LATU, UCLA
3. ESPN (JORDAN REID) DE LAIATU LATU, UCLA
4. PRO FOOTBALL NETWORK (ADAM CAPLAN) DE LAIATU LATU, UCLA
5. CBS SPORTS (TOM FORNELLI) DE LAIATU LATU, UCLA

1. LOS ANGELES TIMES (SAM FARMER) WR BRIAN THOMAS, JR. LSU
2. NFL.COM (DANIEL JEREMIAH) WR BRIAN THOMAS, JR. LSU
3. PRO FOOTBALL NETWORK (OLIVER HODGKINSON) WR BRIAN THOMAS, JR. LSU
4. THE ATHLETIC (NICK BAUMGARDNER) WR BRIAN THOMAS, JR. LSU

1. NFL.COM (CHARLES DAVIS) CB NATE WIGGINS, CLEMSON
2. CBS SPORTS (KYLE STACKPOLE) CB NATE WIGGINS, CLEMSON
3. SHARP FOOTBALL (BRENDAN DONOHUE) CB NATE WIGGINS, CLEMSON
4. SHARP FOOTBALL ANALYSIS (RYAN MCCRYSTAL) CB NATE WIGGINS, CLEMSON

1. NFL.COM (LANCE ZIERLEIN) CB QUINYON MITCHELL, TOLEDO
2. SHARP FOOTBALL ANALYSIS (RYAN MCCRYSTAL) CB QUINYON MITCHELL, TOLEDO
3. NFL.COM (CYNTHIA FRELUND) CB QUINYON MITCHELL, TOLEDO

1. SPORTING NEWS (VINNIE IYER) DT BYRON MURPHY, II TEXAS
2. NFL.COM (BUCKY BROOKS) DT BYRON MURPHY, II TEXAS
3. 33RD TEAM (CONNOR LIVESAY) DT BYRON MURPHY, II TEXAS

1. CBS SPORTS (CHRIS TRAPASSO) DE CHOP ROBINSON, PENN STATE
2. BLEACHER REPORT (SCOUTING DEPARTMENT) DE CHOP ROBINSON, PENN STATE
3. CBS SPORTS (JOSH EDWADS) DE CHOP ROBINSON, PENN STATE

1. ESPN (MEL KIPER, JR.) OL TYLER GUYTON, OKLAHOMA ST.
2. NFL.COM (CHAD REUTER) OL TYLER GUYTON, OKLAHOMA ST.

1. ESPN (MATT MILLER) CB KOOL-AID MCKINSTRY, ALABAMA
2. FANTASY PROS (ANDREW ERICKSON) CB KOOL-AID MCKINSTRY, ALABAMA

USA TODAY (DOUG FARRAR) CB TERRION ARNOLD, ALABAMA
CBS SPORTS (WILL BRINSON) DL AUSTIN BOOKER, KANSAS
PRO FOOTBALL NETWORK (IAN CUMMINGS) DB COOPER DEJEAN, IOWA
THE ATHLETIC (DIANTE LEE) OL TROY FAUTANU, WASHINGTON
THE DRAFT NETWORK (KEITH SANCHEZ) DT BRADEN FISKE, FLORIDA STATE
WALTER FOOTBALL (CHARLIE CAMPBELL) DT KRIS JENKINS, MICHIGAN
WALTER FOOTBALL (WALTER CHEREPINSKY) OL JORDAN MORGAN, ARIZONA
FOX SPORTS (ROB RANG) OT PATRICK PAUL, HOUSTON
ESPN (FIELD YATES) CB ENNIS RAKESTRAW, MISSOURI
THE RINGER (DANNY KELLY) DE DARIUS ROBINSON, MISSOURI
DRAFT COUNTDOWN (SHANE HALLAM) DT T’VONDRE SWEAT, TEXAS
OURLADS DE BRALEN TRICE, WASHINGTON
USA TODAY (NATE DAVIS) DE JARED VERSE, FLORIDA STATE
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In other words, no one has a clue what the Texans will do
 
Predicting Draft picks for the various teams would be much less challenging and downright easy at times if one knew what each teams Board would be at the time of their selection.
 
Texansphan said:
There are several players at various positions at the top of the second round that will have, or be close to, a first round grade and I could see a kerfuffle from several teams to get them.
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Nick "the kerfuffler" Caserio!
I am with you and expect more than one trade resulting from 1.23.
Still think Thomas and one of the Alabama corners could be our first two selections.
 
I will eagerly follow each pick until 1.23 and when the Texans will trade down and I will have to struggle to sleep that entire night and be frustrated the next day trying to figure out what they are going to do day two.


And then they will not pick the guy I want...
 
Eho
badboy said:
I will eagerly follow each pick until 1.23 and when the Texans will trade down and I will have to struggle to sleep that entire night and be frustrated the next day trying to figure out what they are going to do day two.


And then they will not pick the guy I want...
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Who do you want day two so I can document 😉
 
beerlover said:
My gut tells me it’s going to be Johnny Newton. Who was my first choice in very beginning. Texans seem gifted, move after move and event after event as if somehow a curse has been lifted and blessing from above bestowed 🙏🏼
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Looking more and more likely with the way the big board sits right now.
If he is the pick, WR or CB will be the second and that one will depend on who they have ranked higher on their board or which one they eliminated in FA.
 
badboy said:
I will eagerly follow each pick until 1.23 and when the Texans will trade down and I will have to struggle to sleep that entire night and be frustrated the next day trying to figure out what they are going to do day two.


And then they will not pick the guy I want...
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I don't think Nick will trade out of the first as that 5th year option is too valuable.
They probably only move back a handful of spots if they do.
 
beerlover said:
Eho

Who do you want day two so I can document 😉
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My hope would be we sign Saquan and Trent Brown (notice that no one is talking about him?)and Danielle Hunter.

There are so many good players at positions we need in round two and three that I don't see how we can miss guys I prefer.
I guess my primary wish is at 23 getting Brian Thomas and then a trade up for a CB top of round 2.

Trade downs just offer so much.. if we can get them.
Roll dem bones!
 
Texansphan said:
I don't think Nick will trade out of the first as that 5th year option is too valuable.
They probably only move back a handful of spots if they do.
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While I understand the value of a fifth year option, I don't value it as much as most. If I can get two quality players instead of one, I would rather go that way most of the time. Get the players and then worry about the cap. Also for those first round picks a lot of times their contracts are renegotiated before they play their fifth year.
 
badboy said:
While I understand the value of a fifth year option, I don't value it as much as most. If I can get two quality players instead of one, I would rather go that way most of the time. Get the players and then worry about the cap. Also for those first round picks a lot of times their contracts are renegotiated before they play their fifth year.
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Yep, the fifth year option is becoming less important, even with QB's.
 
thunderkyss said:
Is the format the same as last year?

Round 1 Thursday afternoon, rounds 2 & 3 Friday, rounds 4, 5, 6, & 7 Saturday

I think that's what they did.
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That is my understanding and I think it has been that way for a few years.

Edit
Round one is Thursday evening but some do not know that Friday and Saturday begins in the morning hours. I want to say 11:00 a.m. Central Time?
 
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