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What team picks #1 in 2006?

D-ReK said:
I could've swore I heard Denver was switching to a 3-4 since "it gives Manning more problems" than a 4-3...
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Shannahan has mentioned using the 3-4, but I think you'll see him mixing it in and out. I doubt the Broncos will be exclusively a 3-4 team. He's obviously looking for help at CB with the additions he made through the draft, and it seems as if his offseason is geared toward beating the Colts. Too bad he'll still end up losing to them.
 
D-ReK said:
I could've swore I heard Denver was switching to a 3-4 since "it gives Manning more problems" than a 4-3...
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I thought that too. I didnt have the info to back it up thought so i didnt want to say to post it. I did hear that. Changing D's and an erractic QB dont add up into a playoff season. I think they will be lucky to win 1 possibly 2 games in division if a team has a bad week. They dont have the easiest schedule either they play some teams that are going to be really good this year.
 
Denver doens't have a BACK-UP RB first of all. Anyone they have plugged in that system has looked great.

Plummer or Kerry collins just close ur eyes and take a pick. Turnover prone and can't win the big games. Not to mention plummer and his famous middle finger incident last year.

Not to mention all the strides that those in their division have made.

I think SD wins the division this year. KC comes in a close second just b/c their D much improved still hasn't had time to GEL and their O if holmes goes down again is too old to win anything on its own any more. Oakland is much improved but you never know what u will get out of that whole team from week to week.

Clearly if Romeo thought the DL could play PERIOD he would have kept them. Even at the pats he ran a mix D though they were primary 3-4 they still ran enough 4-3 that if he thought those DL weren't consistent they would have kept them.
 
Denver doens't have a BACK-UP RB first of all. Anyone they have plugged in that system has looked great.
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So how is it a bad thing that they have 4 RBs? I agree they had a terrible draft. But you don't see the effects of a draft (good or bad) immediately. They'll pay for drafting bad in '05. But it won't be during the '05 season.

And yes, before the beginning of last season, Reuben Droughns was a back-up. He wasn't even on the depth chart as a half-back (he converted from the FB position).

Plummer or Kerry collins just close ur eyes and take a pick. Turnover prone and can't win the big games. Not to mention plummer and his famous middle finger incident last year.
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Once again, Jake Plummer was'nt great last year (although he had solid numbers). But the Broncos still won 10 games. Now you expect him to play so bad they finish with one of the worst record in football?

Clearly if Romeo thought the DL could play PERIOD he would have kept them. Even at the pats he ran a mix D though they were primary 3-4 they still ran enough 4-3 that if he thought those DL weren't consistent they would have kept them.
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I don't think it was Romeo's decision. And playing ability doesn't always translate to you keeping your job (ask several high priced veterans that have been cut).

I do expect their defense to drop off. But when you were the 4th ranked defense you really can't improve much. They're certainly not going to suffer such a drop off that will put them as the worst team in the league.
 
royce1054 said:
Its also their schedule. Ok, what teams do u think they will beat Philly, New England? They play some tuff teams. The AFC west has improved. I think KC will win the division with a 10-6 or 11-5 record. Then SD will be next with a 10-6 or 9-7. Oakland will go 7-9 or 6-10. Denver just seems to be the team this year that will finish last in the division. They are my pick to be a top 5 i dont know about #1, SF, Cleveland, Miami, and Tennessee all dont have all that great of teams.
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With their defence, they're perfectly capable of shuting down New England or Philly, it's just a matter of ball controll, and keeping Plumer from throwing too many wild throws. KC and Oakland will both suck this year, last year was just the beginning of KC's fall. Not even Moss will resurect Oakland, they will most likely have 2 rookies starting at CB with Woodson making a full time conversion to safety by the end of the season, Collins is washed up. If Houston wins 10 games this year, it will be between them and Denver for the second wild card spot.
 
Texan Dave said:
With their defence, they're perfectly capable of shuting down New England or Philly, it's just a matter of ball controll, and keeping Plumer from throwing too many wild throws. KC and Oakland will both suck this year, last year was just the beginning of KC's fall. Not even Moss will resurect Oakland, they will most likely have 2 rookies starting at CB with Woodson making a full time conversion to safety by the end of the season, Collins is washed up. If Houston wins 10 games this year, it will be between them and Denver for the second wild card spot.
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I dont think Denver's D will be able to shut down new england or Philly. I doubt either team will have the the season they had last year but i dont think Denver can beat them. I think they will pull off 1 from the Raiders, they will beat Miami, but they cant be the better teams I.E. NE, Philly, SD, KC. KC has improved so much i think they will win the west. They might be able to pull off wins against teams like Buffalo, or NYG.
 
I honestly think the Saints or Redskins will have the first pick in next years draft... it should be a good year. Alot of teams are evenmy balanced
 
If anyone thinks NO will pick a qb first round you are crazy. They just got Adrian McPherson, who athletically is a freak, the next Vick but with a better passing game. Anyone who runs a 4.5 40 and can throw a 70 yard pass flat footed will get a chance. He will over take vicks cousin soon for the saints and he will open some eyes. This depends however on his ability to stay out of court. If he did that at FSU he would ahve been an early first round pick for sure.
 
They drafted "Big Mac" because Brooks is practically retarded... ask any defensive back that has to watch film on the Saints.

There is NO way the Saints are going to get a quarter back... hell I doubt they will even be IN New Orleans if Benson gets his way.

:pigfly:
 
Some of the teams I feel will do worst next season (San Fran for one) don't really need QBs or just drafted one. The following teams are the most likely to draft a QB early in next years draft:

Tennessee
Miami
Oakland
Tampa Bay
Detroit
Denver
Arizona
Dallas

Based on potential (or the lack there of), I'd guess Tennessee, Oakland or Miami have the best chance in the Leinert draft. Just for the ongoing argument, I don't think Denver will be bottom five (probably bottom ten), but I think Denver would take Leinert in a heart-beat if given the chance.
 
I actually think Dallas will have a shot at a 500 record this season and might even go higher.

Detriot i think has a chance to challenge Minnesota for the North crown
 
royce1054 said:
I actually think Dallas will have a shot at a 500 record this season and might even go higher.

Detriot i think has a chance to challenge Minnesota for the North crown
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Dallas and Detroit are on the list simply because of questions at the QB position. Dallas has an old man and an unproven, Detroit's QB (harrington) can't seem to get his act together. This position, for both teams, seems shakey and could result in lower than expected records.
 
Algebrat said:
Dallas and Detroit are on the list simply because of questions at the QB position. Dallas has an old man and an unproven, Detroit's QB (harrington) can't seem to get his act together. This position, for both teams, seems shakey and could result in lower than expected records.
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Yes but Harrington now has the players around him to do what he needs to get it done. If he doesnt by week 2 or 3 we will see Garcia.

Dallas does have a question at QB but i still think his supporting cast will be good. Their defense will keep them in games and i think they will win a bunch of games by 1-5 points. I dont think they will pick in the top 10
 
Who is in the Saints Division?

Didn't they just give Brooks a nice fat contract? (Not that means a thing in the NFL).

The Redskins won't pick first on Defense alone. Their offense will be so bad though it could warrant them the 1st 2nd and 3rd pick. But we all know a great D bails out a Bad O. Just ask the Ravens when they won the championship.

As far as the Saints they are a interesting choice I'll give you that. I was certainly startled to see them pick Brown and Big Mac. That's another franchise in turmoil.
 
nobody has even come close to making a good case for the Dophins to not be in the running in the Leinhart sweepstakes. I mean look @ their QB depth chart after A.J. Feeley (who was a reserve in College behind Joey Harrington) they have Gus Ram a concrete wall with your head after scoring a touchdown Frerotte & the well known Sage Rosenfels. c'mon guys this has got to be the worst assortment of cast offs since Gilligans Island.

and whos gonna block and make the holes for their #1 pick Ronnie Brown (#2 overall pick and back-up RB @ Auburn to Carnell Williams)? which WR is stepping out from this group- Chris Chambers, Bryan Gilmore, Wesley Walker, Kendall Newson, Derrius Thompson, Marty Booker & Maurice Mann? maybe I'm not a fish fan or Sabin follower but I simply cannot see it happening for this team in 05 :goodnight

just adding the link for NFL Countdown's draft review-

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/review/teams/miamidolphins.html
 
beerlover said:
nobody has even come close to making a good case for the Dophins to not be in the running in the Leinhart sweepstakes. I mean look @ their QB depth chart after A.J. Feeley (who was a reserve in College behind Joey Harrington) they have Gus Ram a concrete wall with your head after scoring a touchdown Frerotte & the well known Sage Rosenfels. c'mon guys this has got to be the worst assortment of cast offs since Gilligans Island.

and whos gonna block and make the holes for their #1 pick Ronnie Brown (#2 overall pick and back-up RB @ Auburn to Carnell Williams)? which WR is stepping out from this group- Chris Chambers, Bryan Gilmore, Wesley Walker, Kendall Newson, Derrius Thompson, Marty Booker & Maurice Mann? maybe I'm not a fish fan or Sabin follower but I simply cannot see it happening for this team in 05 :goodnight
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no matter how bad they are, chambers is a very good receiver, however the question is if he can get the ball
 
I take the Dolphins finishing at the number 1 spot. With the browns, niners, and chicago closing on their heels.
 
Yeah chicago does have a tuff schedule. The NFL North is an improved division. This year Minnesota and Detriot should fight for the division crown. My question is will it be harrington or Garcia. Harrington finally has the supporting cast that he needs... we will know this year if he is an NFL QB or not. GB has fallen. I expect them t have a losing record this year. then there is chicago. with no O-line to block for Benson or to open a throwing lane to throw the ball to 1 of the WR's. Chicago prob will be a top 4-7 pick. somewhere in that range.
 
I think a strong case can be made for the phins really.

I think it will really depend on what feely can do honestly. He has a good RB....and who cares if he was the back-up at Auburn. He played a significant role in their O and was the primary RB at the goal line. Doesn't matter who starts but who FINISHES.

With the trade of Surtain you have to wonder who else is back there in the DB other than madison?

LB's well we got one of them, zach has been nicked up lately and is aging.

DL...........They showed promise against NE but of course I tend to think NE was just having a really off game more than MIA just being on the upward.
 
Another thing is i am not intirely sure Linehart will go #1. If SF or Cleveland, or even chicago mostly likely pick first i dont think Linehart will be the pick. Obcourse we all know why SF (Smith). Cleveland drafted a QB in the 3rd plus they have Dilfer a very capable QB. Chicago they have good QB's they just need a line to protect them.

If Miami, Denver or Tennessee picks 1st i think they will go Linehart. I think Plummer is just about done maybe a year to stay there to help teach Linehart. Miami obcourse i dont think Feely can work with the Line down in Miami. Tennessee McNair is about to retire and Volek isnt the answer.
 
I think if you have a team like SF, CLE, or CHI picks #1 I'd have to believe the young man out of UVA that is the LT ....Not sure his name though would have to garner strong consideration as the #1 pick for one of these teams.

Anyone know how to set up a poll? We can take a vote.

Denver
SF
Cle
Chi
Tenn
Mia
Other
 
Tennesee gets Leinhart Volek isnt the longterm answer to the team otherwise Hed be challenging McNair.

If not Tennesee
Ravens
Cardinals
Rams
Seahawks
 
Texas_Thrill said:
I think if you have a team like SF, CLE, or CHI picks #1 I'd have to believe the young man out of UVA that is the LT ....Not sure his name though would have to garner strong consideration as the #1 pick for one of these teams.

Anyone know how to set up a poll? We can take a vote.

Denver
SF
Cle
Chi
Tenn
Mia
Other
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Thats a tuff vote. Esp bc Cle, Chi, Denver, & Mia all have tuf schedules
SF and Tenn just arent good.
 
beerlover said:
nobody has even come close to making a good case for the Dophins to not be in the running in the Leinhart sweepstakes. I mean look @ their QB depth chart after A.J. Feeley (who was a reserve in College behind Joey Harrington) they have Gus Ram a concrete wall with your head after scoring a touchdown Frerotte & the well known Sage Rosenfels. c'mon guys this has got to be the worst assortment of cast offs since Gilligans Island.

and whos gonna block and make the holes for their #1 pick Ronnie Brown (#2 overall pick and back-up RB @ Auburn to Carnell Williams)? which WR is stepping out from this group- Chris Chambers, Bryan Gilmore, Wesley Walker, Kendall Newson, Derrius Thompson, Marty Booker & Maurice Mann? maybe I'm not a fish fan or Sabin follower but I simply cannot see it happening for this team in 05 :goodnight

just adding the link for NFL Countdown's draft review-

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/review/teams/miamidolphins.html
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They will have a good defense...like they always do.

Chambers is not a great #1, but he's a solid #2 on any team in the NFL. With Thompson and Booker, they have a better than average trio.

Feeley is not the long term answer but that's not what they need right now. He'll do well enough to ensure they don't finish with the worst record in football.

Their starting OL could look something like this:

LT - Tony Pape
LG - Wade Smith
C - Seth McKinney
RG - Vernon Carey
RT - Stocker McDougle

That's not bad for now. A few years down the road and it's going to be really good.

With an improved running game (it's gotta be better than last year) and with their defense cointinuing to play well, that's not a guarantee for success but it's certainly an improvement.
 
Huge said:
They will have a good defense...like they always do.

Chambers is not a great #1, but he's a solid #2 on any team in the NFL. With Thompson and Booker, they have a better than average trio.

Feeley is not the long term answer but that's not what they need right now. He'll do well enough to ensure they don't finish with the worst record in football.

Their starting OL could look something like this:

LT - Tony Pape
LG - Wade Smith
C - Seth McKinney
RG - Vernon Carey
RT - Stocker McDougle

That's not bad for now. A few years down the road and it's going to be really good.

With an improved running game (it's gotta be better than last year) and with their defense cointinuing to play well, that's not a guarantee for success but it's certainly an improvement.
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if the running game isn't improved then what? Feeley will continue to be average. Pape has struggled to get game time last year & now he is the starting LT? they have as much to prove & are more inexperienced than the Texans offensive line. looking at their schedule all the weaker teams they face are away, while mostly strong teams visit which is a recipe for a losing record.

home- Broncos, Panthers, Chiefs, Falcons, Patriots, Bills, Jets, Titans. of those teams if things go right would be a meager two wins (Chiefs & Titans) until proven otherwise.

away- Jets, Bills, Bucs, Saints, Browns, Raiders, Chargers, Patriots. maybe they catch Cleveland or the Raiders over confident, but to expect another late season don't give a darn effort from the Patriots well I just don't see it. Who knows if a 3-13 record will be the worst in the NFL but its close :cool:
 
beerlover said:
home- Broncos, Panthers, Chiefs, Falcons, Patriots, Bills, Jets, Titans. of those teams if things go right would be a meager two wins (Chiefs & Titans) until proven otherwise.

away- Jets, Bills, Bucs, Saints, Browns, Raiders, Chargers, Patriots. maybe they catch Cleveland or the Raiders over confident, but to expect another late season don't give a darn effort from the Patriots well I just don't see it. Who knows if a 3-13 record will be the worst in the NFL but its close :cool:
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on your home teams i think if you put the Broncos, Titans would be their 2 wins Carolina and Buffalo would be next easiest. KC, ATL, NE, NYJ they def wont beat

Away--- CLE are the only team i think they run away with the game. TB, NO, BUF are the next 3 that they might be able to squeak 1 out. I dont think they can beat Oak, SD, NYJ, NE.

so thats 8 losses in my book for sure... and only 3 wins.... so they have 5 games that can go either way in my book
 
beerlover said:
if the running game isn't improved then what? Feeley will continue to be average. Pape has struggled to get game time last year & now he is the starting LT? they have as much to prove & are more inexperienced than the Texans offensive line. looking at their schedule all the weaker teams they face are away, while mostly strong teams visit which is a recipe for a losing record.

home- Broncos, Panthers, Chiefs, Falcons, Patriots, Bills, Jets, Titans. of those teams if things go right would be a meager two wins (Chiefs & Titans) until proven otherwise.

away- Jets, Bills, Bucs, Saints, Browns, Raiders, Chargers, Patriots. maybe they catch Cleveland or the Raiders over confident, but to expect another late season don't give a darn effort from the Patriots well I just don't see it. Who knows if a 3-13 record will be the worst in the NFL but its close :cool:
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Pape "could" (see above) be the starting LT. If he's not, then last year's starter (McIntosh) will be.

And if the running game is improved (as I think it should be), then a load will be taken off Feeley's shoulders. And even teams with average QBs and great defenses can finish with a .500 record.

And with the San Diego going from 4-12 to 12-4 (as well as other examples of good teams going bad quickly and vice versa), who's to say what teams on their schedule will be tough and which ones won't?

Bottom line, I don't think their record from last year was a true indicator of the overall ability of the team. After the loss of Norv Turner, the sudden retirement of Ricky Williams, and David Boston's supsension/injury, I think the team was thrown into a funk that it couldn't recover from. Their running game couldn't keep their defense off the field and they began to struggle.
 
Huge said:
Pape "could" (see above) be the starting LT. If he's not, then last year's starter (McIntosh) will be.

And if the running game is improved (as I think it should be), then a load will be taken off Feeley's shoulders. And even teams with average QBs and great defenses can finish with a .500 record.

And with the San Diego going from 4-12 to 12-4 (as well as other examples of good teams going bad quickly and vice versa), who's to say what teams on their schedule will be tough and which ones won't?

Bottom line, I don't think their record from last year was a true indicator of the overall ability of the team. After the loss of Norv Turner, the sudden retirement of Ricky Williams, and David Boston's supsension/injury, I think the team was thrown into a funk that it couldn't recover from. Their running game couldn't keep their defense off the field and they began to struggle.
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OK losing Norv Turner, is that such a bad thing? another former back-up QB just like Feeley, sorry but I've been tracking these guys (former Duck myself) for years :D

I heard a newswire report that the Dolphins have resigned David Boston, if true that could be a bit of good news.

Tony Pape has been allocated to the Berlin Thunder of NFL Europe. I guess that means that David Carr had better watch out when David Ragone returns as well :whistle:

Ricky Williams is reportedly very interested in returning to the Dophins per Nick Sabin.

far as the draft is concerned I disagree that they helped themselves given the latitude of their options. but with Ricky to mentor Ronnie who needs a Cadilac :party:
 
Cleveland Browns will get the first pick. I can't see the dolphins being as bad as they were last year, and I was thinking that maybe Ricky Williams comes back and San Fran trades for him. I still don't see Cleveland as a vastly improved team with Dilfer at QB i believe?
 
Can't see Dallas picking #1 just off their Defense. They will be definitely bouncing back after a good draft.

As far as CLE they are a toss-up. If Romeo rights the D then they won't be. Dilfer won't win you any games but he's not going to lose you any either. I can't think of anyone on their offense so that will be a major problem for them. Edwards is a rookie WR so he will struggle most likely.
 
i personally think the top 5 picks will be
1. Cleveland
2. Tennessee
3. Miami
4. SF
5. Chicago or maybe Denver -- dever has to prove to me they are better than that this year before i even think of moving them out of my top 10
 
I dont think Denver has shown any consistency. They've gotten MUCH older. I think they are a serious contender for the #1.
 
I think it will be the Niners again. I do admit though that I am not familiar with their offseason additions, etc.
 
Ok please don't hammer me for this but lets say Texans get #1 overall ( Not saying it will happen or want it too but lets just assume) would yall take Leinart even though we have Carr? Or would you take like Reggie Bush or something?
 
Green Bay picks last in the draft (SB Champs) HMMM I DUNNO WHY......

And St Louis picks #1 overall. Strange predictions huh.
 
I think Its 1 of 4 teams

Giants - No real additions other than Plaxico.
Redskins - Dan Snyder again shows us what not to do.
Titans - Nfl Europe Team
Browns - has not replenished all the losses on D.
 
outofhnd said:
I think Its 1 of 4 teams

Giants - No real additions other than Plaxico.
Redskins - Dan Snyder again shows us what not to do.
Titans - Nfl Europe Team
Browns - has not replenished all the losses on D.
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what no fins or 49ers :confused:

no way the Giants. Manning is the real deal & in the long run worth the high price they had to pay in order to move up in last years draft to get him. they also added more defense through the draft in Corey Webster CB, Justin Tuck DE who may both end up starting & having an impact on a defense that was already improving.

Redskins still have a good defense but with Taylor questionable and the offense still anemic you may have a ringer. The Titans are in transition but have done an excellent job re-tooling with some great young talent. I'm going to have to flip a coin on that one :goodbad: the Browns seem from a media standpoint to be in the dumps but after watching them come into Relient last year and close out the Texans the way they did they should be out of the bottom 5 :embarrass
 
I have to go with the Phins getting the first pick, they just have not done nearly enough on offense or defense to improve. So it looks like this
1. Phins
2. Niners
3. Browns
4. Tampa
 
Does anyone know when the last time a team picked #1 in consecutive years?

There is no way the Phins pick one. That defense is too good to let them be that bad again. The D wins them at least 3-4 games. And with a REAL RB they will be back to where they were before. Middle of the road.

I think we are underestimating the Browns. They have a QB who wont win OR lose any games. They got rid a lot of JUNK on D. They have a young WR. A not so bad RB. I think a lot is going to depend on how well they adapt to Romeo's D.

I still think the Titans are on a crash ride downward. St. Louis isn't as ODD a pick as you might think if you look at the turmoil that team is in though talent alone will not allow them to be picking #1.

Redskins D is good for about 6 wins even with that horrible O.

If the Texans were to pick #1 next year which I can't see at all happening unless our Defense falls apart on itself. I'd trade it. Next year's draft looks like it has depth at all the positions we need help on primarily OL and unless one of those LT's sets themself apart from the rest trade down.
 
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