What Kubiak thinks of Carr!!

[infantrycak]

Forget about screens to beat the blitz..... Putz ain't going to make those kinds of runs to often...... it would be nice if he does.. but David needs to hit AJ on the slant... if he beats the blitz with AJ, Moulds, or Owen racing down the middle of the field, teams will come in to the game with no blitzes in their gameplan.

Too simplistic. The screen is a key play in beating a blitz. Hitting the WR's is also a key ingredient but the screen should not be dismissed at all. No Putzier won't go for 20 every time, but blitz on 1st with the TE going for 8 is a bad, bad sign for the D as well.

 

[thunderkyss]

Too simplistic. The screen is a key play in beating a blitz. Hitting the WR's is also a key ingredient but the screen should not be dismissed at all. No Putzier won't go for 20 every time, but blitz on 1st with the TE going for 8 is a bad, bad sign for the D as well.

I agree... but to put the fear of God in them, you got to hit them for 6 points..... that will stop them from even thinking about blitzing except in the most extreme conditions.

 

[GoTexans]

I'll wait till Sunday to make my final verdict.

Carr against the second best AFC team last season. At least the entire first half.

 

[tsip]

Carr is going to make winning that much easier. What happened last week with St. Louis. They brought the House every play. What happened last year week in week out, teams across the league brought the house? Drive three for the Texans, 4 screen passes two runs up the middle and a field goal. Drive 5 they backed off the rushing and we went back to the normal play calling and we ran it in for that TD. With Carr in it is an advantage because we get more Blitzing. More blitzing means more screens, we gain control of the game by running screens and forcing defensive coordinators to back off on the blitzing. Then we come back to Andre and Moulds and cause the D to start blitzing again. The offense gains the leverage and manipulates the defense. D-Coordinators will have to learn the hard way that Kubiak and these Texans are not Capper and crew.

...sounds good, but this has never happened--is it going to start, now? That would be great because Carr has never beaten the blitz or any pressure, for that matter.

 

[Divebomb]

...sounds good, but this has never happened--is it going to start, now? That would be great because Carr has never beaten the blitz or any pressure, for that matter.

Look at drive #1 from last week. The O looked like poop because St. Louis remembers that David Carr Chokes under pressure. They brought the house, Carr freaked out, Spencer jumped offsides LOL, they freaked out. Series two it looks as if Kubiak wants to see if Carr can deliver from the pocked with the all out Blitz but Carr choked. Drive 3 Kubiak says I've had enough of this ****, 4 sceens and two quick runs up the middle and we are putting points on the board. St. Louis backed off, Kubiak started getting the ball to the Andre and we are running the ball in from the 4. 1st team is done and Carr beats the blitz with screen passes and the second team takes the field. Kubiak is trying to get Carr going, Carr needs to step up and make some plays for sure but if the League is going to blitz every down like last year and Carr can not deliver that slant pass then we set up the screen and get a TE to the Probowl.

 

[CaptainPatriot]

Carr is going to make winning that much easier. What happened last week with St. Louis. They brought the House every play. What happened last year week in week out, teams across the league brought the house? Drive three for the Texans, 4 screen passes two runs up the middle and a field goal. Drive 5 they backed off the rushing and we went back to the normal play calling and we ran it in for that TD. With Carr in it is an advantage because we get more Blitzing. More blitzing means more screens, we gain control of the game by running screens and forcing defensive coordinators to back off on the blitzing. Then we come back to Andre and Moulds and cause the D to start blitzing again. The offense gains the leverage and manipulates the defense. D-Coordinators will have to learn the hard way that Kubiak and these Texans are not Capper and crew.

To be honest teams are using vanilla Defenses with a basic blitz package. They aren't going to show their best blitz packages in preseason. They don’t want opponents having film of them so early. If Carr has problem with blitzes now he is in trouble come regular season.

 

[texan279]

To be honest teams are using vanilla Defenses with a basic blitz package. They aren't going to show their best blitz packages in preseason. They don’t want opponents having film of them so early. If Carr has problem with blitzes now he is in trouble come regular season.

Well when Lundy was in the game with Carr, he couldn't block the blitz to save his life from what I remember. When Morency was in he did a much better job of picking up the blitz.

 

[CaptainPatriot]

He's one of the few QBs to throw for over 4000 yards in a single NCAA season. And he didn't do it with his athletisicm...... that was a bonus that we found out about in the last 4 years.

I understand it's college......... but the point was that he didn't do it with his athletisicm....


you really believe this..... don't you??

True

Your bias is starting to show.

I guess this is a subjective thing.... but I don't recall David making a decision to throw a pass where he had to be accurate....... I'm going to watch that StL game again tonight. I'll look.

Surely I thought you could see through that...... Sage wasn't brought in to push Carr....... Sage is our insurance policy..... he's not competing with Carr for the Starting job.... it's David's job to lose. But when/if he does lose it, we're gonna kick some booty.

Bill Parcells is thinking SuperBowl...... there's no way Romo was going to start over Drew......... no way. Bledsoe did what he did, because that's what he does....... he's a gamer, a ProBowler, and a SuperBowl QB.

playing on a 9-7 football team with shoddy protection..... including Larry Allen, Keyshawn Johnson, Terry Glenn & Jason Witten.
2005 Dallas Cowboys
GP-GS-Attempts-Comp-Perc-Yards-avg--Long-TD-Int--Sck/yrds--Rating
1- 16--499------300---60.1-3639--7.29-71---23--17--49/295---83.7

Understand this is years after recieving coaching from some of the brightest minds in football...... Parcells, Weiss etc...

David Carr on a 7-9 football team with shoddy protection..... no Larry Allen, no Keyshawn Johnson, no Terry Glenn, and no Jason Witten.
2004 Houston Texans
GP-GS-Attempts-Comp-Perc-Yards-avg---Long-TD-Int--Sck/yrds--Rating
16-16-466-------285--61.2--3531--7.58--69---16-14--49/301----83.5

This is his third season in the NFL..... with some of the worse coaching ever seen in any country, in any sport....... ever...



yeah...... that about sums that up.

So things we need to be watching......

David going through his progression...... any one thinking he is doing well in this category is a homer.... I agree with you on that one.

But I haven't seen the 1 look tuck and run Carr lately, you gotta give us that...

& it's going to be a long season........ bring your popcorn...

I have to admit I like your thoroughness. I wonder what DC’s stats are in 4th Quarters of close games and 3rd down stats of his games? Stats are deceiving IE: Take Peyton Manning huge Stat numbers but when it comes to a close game in the playoffs with a dominating D he disappears. That AFC Championship Game couple yrs ago. They only scored 3 points! But against Denver he lit them up for 4 TD passes!

 

[bayoudreamn]

To be honest teams are using vanilla Defenses with a basic blitz package. They aren't going to show their best blitz packages in preseason. They don’t want opponents having film of them so early. If Carr has problem with blitzes now he is in trouble come regular season.

Teams don't show their offenses OR defenses. What kind of argument are you trying to make?

 

[CaptainPatriot]

Teams don't show their offenses OR defenses. What kind of argument are you trying to make?

That DC should be dominating in the passing game in preseason and he isn't. If he can't find his TE's now what makes you think he will in the regular season? DC looks so mechanical out there and he is forcing passes against a basic D. But when I look at Sage he is more fluid. Go back and look at the Rams game. He passed to B.Joppru over the middle. He layed the ball up and over the LB and down into the hands of B.Joppru in stride for a big gain. Also the TD pass Sage threw to D.Lewis down the left side. Sage rolled out left opened his hips and threw across his body on the run and layed a perfect pass to D.Lewis in stride for 44 yd TD. It seems when DC throws the ball he has to throw it hard all the time.

 

[Lucky]

To be honest teams are using vanilla Defenses with a basic blitz package.

Dude, the Rams ran a double safety blitz. Basic, my Fortran.

Do the Texans need to get better versus the blitz? Yes, and they did against the Rams as the game progressed. Did Haslett and the Rams hold anything back? Um, I think the kitchen sink remained on the sideline.

 

[The Pencil Neck]

Dude, the Rams ran a double safety blitz. Basic, my Fortran.

Do the Texans need to get better versus the blitz? Yes, and they did against the Rams as the game progressed. Did Haslett and the Rams hold anything back? Um, I think the kitchen sink remained on the sideline.

No. The kitchen sink went into the game. They just hadn't attached the drain or the garbage disposal. But I definitely saw the kitchen sink in there.

 

[CaptainPatriot]

Dude, the Rams ran a double safety blitz. Basic, my Fortran.

Do the Texans need to get better versus the blitz? Yes, and they did against the Rams as the game progressed. Did Haslett and the Rams hold anything back? Um, I think the kitchen sink remained on the sideline.

there are exceptions ,how many times did they do that?

 

[Lucky]

there are exceptions ,how many times did they do that?

I just pointed out one. The onus is pretty much on you to prove that it was the exception. Go back and look at the tape and tell me I'm wrong. Maybe you should define what a basic blitz is first? Two safeties coming free up the middle? No biggie.

Somewhere, I posted that the Rams blitzed the Texans 9 times last Saturday. The Texans completed only 1 pass on the intial 5 blitzes. And went 4-4 after. 2 of 2 by Carr and 2 of 2 by Sage. I'm not placing all of the blame on Lundy, but the 4-4 performance against the blitz was with Morency in the game at RB.

 

[thunderkyss]

I just pointed out one. The onus is pretty much on you to prove that it was the exception. Go back and look at the tape and tell me I'm wrong. Maybe you should define what a basic blitz is first? Two safeties coming free up the middle? No biggie.

Somewhere, I posted that the Rams blitzed the Texans 9 times last Saturday. The Texans completed only 1 pass on the intial 5 blitzes. And went 4-4 after. 2 of 2 by Carr and 2 of 2 by Sage. I'm not placing all of the blame on Lundy, but the 4-4 performance against the blitz was with Morency in the game at RB.

There was one blitz, with a DE split way wide..... on a TE lined up in the slot. & only 2 DLinemen in front of our OL... Spencer did his job, and picked up the DE lined up on the TE split wide........

But Pitts...... I don't know what he was thinking. He helped the center with one of the two Lineman in front of them. & so did the right gaurd......

The RT was "handling" the other LIneman..... it was ridiculous...... a safety & corner came in clean...... David had to run to the right, which took our RT out of position...... the lineman released, and started chasing David........ David did the right thing, and threw it away...... I think.

But I ain't never seen a defensive package like that, I didn't know what they were up to.

 

[afcman]

for his teammates to believe in him

Bingo! One of the things I've been seeing the last 2 yrs. Or not as the case may be.

 

[CaptainPatriot]

I just pointed out one. The onus is pretty much on you to prove that it was the exception. Go back and look at the tape and tell me I'm wrong. Maybe you should define what a basic blitz is first? Two safeties coming free up the middle? No biggie.

Somewhere, I posted that the Rams blitzed the Texans 9 times last Saturday. The Texans completed only 1 pass on the intial 5 blitzes. And went 4-4 after. 2 of 2 by Carr and 2 of 2 by Sage. I'm not placing all of the blame on Lundy, but the 4-4 performance against the blitz was with Morency in the game at RB.

I have to take it all back! You are right Teams are blitzing like crazy! I watched the PATS vs. Wash. and they blitz the HELL out of Brady. They had Safeties lining up as Mike LB’s! But Brady just picked the Blitzes apart. I think he threw 10 pass or more to his TE’s in the 1st half! His TD pass to Watson he made it look so easy. Brady waited for the blitz to come and just lobbed the ball over the Blitzing LB to Watson where the LB vacated. It reminded me of what Magic and Bird use to do to NBA double teams.