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BroussardSaint said:
what are you talking about? i just put a positive post toward you're texans. are you drunk or stoned??
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What the heck are YOU talking about ? its your thread lol, you call us bandwagon jumpers and bush bashers and whine because we picked the right guy , matter of fact you whine almost every time yer on this board. then cant figure out why you dont get a positive response. get a clue and post yer whining on yer own board.

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The Pencil Neck said:
2. Prior to the combine, I had only the vaguest notion who Mario Williams was.
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I remember Lance from 610 AM saying that Mario was the best player in the draft. At the time, it was a foregone conclusion that we were getting Reggie.

Lance was just as shocked as everyone else when we found out that we got Mario. He actually seemed disappointed that we got the guy who he had claimed earlier would be the best pick in the draft.
 
BroussardSaint said:
want to find a classy board?? go to saintsreport.com and read their posts. and look at how many times they feel the need to bash some other teams players...
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sAints fans have way too much stuff to bash the sAints with to bash other teams!!!
 
BroussardSaint said:
this thread was started by asking why most fans thought Reggie was everything. and now that someone else was picked by the texans (Mario) all of a sudden these people jump off Reggies banwagon and feel like they need to bash him. ie: he's fragile, he's got character issues ,etc....
I hope Mario does good for the Texans. cause i don't think payton can't do anything with pressure on him.
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To answer your question...I think that we were all blinded by the "Reggie's the best thing there ever was because 99% of all the sports analysts say he's going to be the next Michael Jordan...no, wait...he's going to be BETTER than Michael Jordan!"

Anyways, I really think that the media and everyone kept pushing all of his positives down everyone's throat and hiding the negative aspects. I mean, hell...you take ANY other running back in the NFL and say he's only going to run the ball MAYBE 15 times a game, and they'll tell you he's a back who won't be in the league very long...but not Reggie, he's Superman incarnate.

I think the thing is that most of us Houston fans were latching onto that pre-Draft euphoria (including myself) where we couldn't wait to take Reggie and we didnt' care if we had DD. But in hindsight, after all our complaining and what-not, we've come to realize that Mario fills a real need that Reggie would not have.

And personally, I don't think Kubiak wanted Reggie for a minute myself...could you imagine him trying to get Reggie to fit into our system? Hardly...
 
Most of you were blinded. There was a contingent on this board that were pulling Mario before you guys even knew who he was. Hell I had to even tell one of his biggest supporters Morknolle about him because he had not seen much NCST football over the years. To Morknolle, KT, myself, and the rest of the people that never jumped on the Bush or Vince bandwagon have a Heiney and a cigar.
 
BroussardSaint said:
this thread was started by asking why most fans thought Reggie was everything. and now that someone else was picked by the texans (Mario) all of a sudden these people jump off Reggies banwagon and feel like they need to bash him. ie: he's fragile, he's got character issues ,etc....
I hope Mario does good for the Texans. cause i don't think payton can't do anything with pressure on him.
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Most of the more knowledgable fans acknowledged before the draft that Bush did have faults but many of them were also caught up on the hype machine as much as everyone else in the country was and they were convinced that he was going to be our pick so they were excited about it. Now that we picked Mario and they've heard more about what Mario brings to our team they've somewhat forgotten all the Bush hype and have latched on to the great player and great person that Mario Williams is. Most fans couldn't get much good info on Mario before the draft because ESPN and every other media source were all over Bush, but now that our FO made the right choice and the general public around here are getting a true impression of Mario they like what they see, and of course they aren't going to get on the MB and whine how we didn't get Bush (although there was plenty of that in the week or two following the draft, go check out those threads if you want to see all of that), so that element of the issue has vanished from the boards.

Coach C. said:
Most of you were blinded. There was a contingent on this board that were pulling Mario before you guys even knew who he was. Hell I had to even tell one of his biggest supporters Morknolle about him because he had not seen much NCST football over the years. To Morknolle, KT, myself, and the rest of the people that never jumped on the Bush or Vince bandwagon have a Heiney and a cigar.
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Indeed during the college season I hadn't heard a whole lot about him, but NC State and defensive players in general frequently don't get much pub. Once I started looking into him more and followed his Combine workout etc. he quickly became my top choice for this team.
 
BroussardSaint said:
Good post man. i was just trying to get through to all those Reggie bashers who thought he was God until the Saints got him. now they want to worship Mario and get on their knees in front of him.....
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It might help, if you'd find a post of one of those Reggie Bashers, demonstrating Reggie's fall from Godlike status...... I think it would be fun, as I was against drafting Reggie from Day one...... not that he isn't a god, but because our coach makes runningback gods....

So we aren't in the same position as more desperate teams..... teams whose starting backfield already get's paid more than many teams complete offensive unit........ and this is before Reggie is even signed......(a bit of hyperbole)...

I actually consider mysel a Saints fan (I've been following them since the Ricky Williams trade)............. I think you screwed up with signing McAllister for such a long term with so much gauranteed.... to me, that loks like a mistake, given his health concerns, and since he may never be what he used to be....... drafting Reggie might have been the best thing you guys could have done. Right now the money looks goofy(and you haven't signed Reggie yet) but I'm sure you'll get all that squared away in the next year or two......... bye-bye Duece......

And before you start arguing with me about Duece, that is the only way drafting Reggie makes since. Concerns about McAllister's health. Even though you also have Benette.

anyway............ there were only two reasons your team couldn't win.
#1..... you'd get a lead, and try to sit on it..... makes no sense. 3 and out, and your defense couldn't hold.

#2..... your defense couldn't hold..... why not?? You give away DEs like Darren Howard, so you've got a pass rush...... but your secondary, and Linebakers couldn't hold.

Now, what have you done about your linebackers and secondary?? that's where your Wins and loses will come from.
 
rafterticket said:
You crack me up, Broussard. Let's face some facts, NFL wise.

Who has ever done anything with the saints? (lower case intended)

Archie was as close as that team will EVER get. It's a bigger hole than Detroit. Which is nothing but quarterback Hades.

Read this: Your team will NEVER win a Super Bowl. EVER.

Meanwhile, we are a team that will be overly lauded as on the rise. I would rather root for that, than be an NFL joke. JOKE.

Please reply.
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In all seriousness, I think Aaron Brooks has surpassed all Archie Mannings records with the club.......... yards, TDs, wins...... you name it.
 
:superman: well, i can't say much except that i got what i wanted from the start i wanted us to address both lines and we did ... remember i asked a ?? earlier i jan/feb what r the team needs mor u and thunder agreed we needed both lines fixed hope we keep improving and going in a positive direction. :bowser:
 
BroussardSaint said:
No he hasn't. just like about 30 other first round rookies. I will prob. be the first one to post when he does. is that what you all are thinking that is better than Reggie or Mario is that one is signed? even before the draft?? Goes to show how much confidence Mario had to sign without trying to negotiate a better deal.
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If you don't think signing a contract early and getting into camp is important, then let me introduce you to another former Texas standout: Cedrick Benson.
 
If Tom Benson has his way Bush will still end up on Texas, San Antonio that is. If not there he'll be going back home to L.A.
 
the wonger need food said:
This is funny. The fan of a team who has exactly 1 playoff win in 40 years of existence.

Why don't you head over to a team's board that you have more in common with (e.g. embarrassing futility), like the Lions or Cardinals.
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Yeah but atleast they have had a winning season in the past 4 years
 
bigtex77 said:
Saints: 39 years to build a winner. One playoff win.

Texans: Four years of existance. Will win a playoff game in the next 2-3 season. I'd say we are well ahead of schedule.
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Hahahhaahahha. This is one of the most ridiculous posts ive ever read. You've had 4 years of existence and won like 18 games, then you go on to say that you will win a playoff game in the next 2-3 seasons and that you are "well ahead of schedule." Sorry i didn't know you were a psychic, maybe you and Miss Cleo can start a business.
 
Titan "Tack" Fan said:
Yeah but atleast they have had a winning season in the past 4 years
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At least they didn't inherit a team on the rise and fill up the bandwagon right away with "fans" after the team's previous city went through many mediocre years with a nub of an owner.

Your turn. :tease:
 
A4toZ said:
At least they didn't inherit a team on the rise and fill up the bandwagon right away with "fans" after the team's previous city went through many mediocre years with a nub of an owner.

Your turn. :tease:
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So when the Oilers moved here everyone in Nashville was not supposed to support them? Maybe we shouldn't have bought those PSLs in 1996. Man i never realized that i am not a "real" fan. WHAT AM I THINKING??? I JUST JUMPED ON THE BANDWAGON, GOD IM AN IDIOT
 
Titan "Tack" Fan said:
So when the Oilers moved here everyone in Nashville was not supposed to support them? Maybe we shouldn't have bought those PSLs in 1996. Man i never realized that i am not a "real" fan. WHAT AM I THINKING??? I JUST JUMPED ON THE BANDWAGON, GOD IM AN IDIOT
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First step is admitting it. :) So, you're saying (not you) but joe schmo fan off the street would've embraced the Titans to date just as much if they came in to Tennessee with a few 2 win seasons in a row?

...well, I guess the Texans fans did as well, since we haven't had a winning season yet (maybe just answered my own question) but they WERE on the right track till last year's bottom out... but man it just felt really good in '02 to have the NFL back and a home team to root for... plus being rid of a Bud.

Guess I'm just sick of the "talk to us when you have a winning season" typcial Jag smack... didn't expect it from a Titan.
 
A4toZ said:
First step is admitting it. :) So, you're saying (not you) but joe schmo fan off the street would've embraced the Titans to date just as much if they came in to Tennessee with a few 2 win seasons in a row?

...well, I guess the Texans fans did as well, since we haven't had a winning season yet (maybe just answered my own question) but they WERE on the right track till last year's bottom out... but man it just felt really good in '02 to have the NFL back and a home team to root for... plus being rid of a Bud.

Guess I'm just sick of the "talk to us when you have a winning season" typcial Jag smack... didn't expect it from a Titan.
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The ONLY time i talk smack on here is if someone says the Titans suck or something of that nature.

And when i posted earlier on this thread about the Texans sucking it's because some dude was trash talking to a Saints fan about the Saints sucking. If you count from the 2002 season to now, the Saints have done a lot better than the Texans. So i just don't understand his reasoning.
 
Titan "Tack" Fan said:
The ONLY time i talk smack on here is if someone says the Titans suck or something to that nature.

And when i posted earlier on this thread about the Texans sucking it's because some dude was trash talking to a Saints fan about the Saints sucking. If you count from the 2002 season to now, the Saints have done a lot better than the Texans. So i just don't understand his reasoning.
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Because it isnt an apples to apples comparison.
 
Titan "Tack" Fan said:
The ONLY time i talk smack on here is if someone says the Titans suck or something to that nature.

And when i posted earlier on this thread about the Texans sucking it's because some dude was trash talking to a Saints fan about the Saints sucking. If you count from the 2002 season to now, the Saints have done a lot better than the Texans. So i just don't understand his reasoning.
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This is a TEXANS MB. I don't think you should expect anything less when a fan of another team comes here and talks trash. I couldn't even tell you if the Thumbtacks HAVE a MB and I don't care. I come here to talk about my team. I hate the tacks with the same passion as the cowgirls and I will talk trash about them at every opportunity. Good, bad or indifferent, that's how it is. The sAin'ts are irrelevant. Always have been, always will be. Kinda like the Cards. BTW, the tacks suck. Badly.
 
DocBar said:
This is a TEXANS MB. I don't think you should expect anything less when a fan of another team comes here and talks trash. I couldn't even tell you if the Thumbtacks HAVE a MB and I don't care. I come here to talk about my team. I hate the tacks with the same passion as the cowgirls and I will talk trash about them at every opportunity. Good, bad or indifferent, that's how it is. The sAin'ts are irrelevant. Always have been, always will be. Kinda like the Cards. BTW, the tacks suck. Badly.
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Titans all time record against the Texans: 6-2
Titans vs. Texans last year: 2-0
Titans final record last year: 4-12
Texans final record last year: 2-14
Titans draft picks: Vince Young (best college QB), LenDale White (most rushing TDs in NCAA)
Texans draft picks: Mario Williams, DeMeco Ryans (both very good defensive players, but neither is dominating)
Titans notable offseason FA pickups: David Givens, Chris Hope, Kevin Mawae
Texans notable offseason FA pickups: Putzier (mediocre at best), Eric Moulds (good addition)
 
Titan "Tack" Fan said:
The ONLY time i talk smack on here is if someone says the Titans suck or something to that nature.
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The Titans suck............ or something of that nature.


:whip:

:fireball:

:spy:
 
Titan "Tack" Fan said:
Titans all time record against the Texans: 6-2
Titans vs. Texans last year: 2-0
Titans final record last year: 4-12
Texans final record last year: 2-14
Titans draft picks: Vince Young (best college QB), LenDale White (most rushing TDs in NCAA)
Texans draft picks: Mario Williams, DeMeco Ryans (both very good defensive players, but neither is dominating)
Titans notable offseason FA pickups: David Givens, Chris Hope, Kevin Mawae
Texans notable offseason FA pickups: Putzier (mediocre at best), Eric Moulds (good addition)
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Tacks still suck. Always will. If you want to hear people sing their praises, you came to the wrong place.
 
DocBar said:
Tacks still suck. Always will. If you want to hear people sing their praises, you came to the wrong place.
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Haha i know. Titans and Texans suck. It's just fun to argue who sucks more. That's why i like talking with Texans fans, we are on the same page as far as supporting teams who currently suck.

Thanks for letting me post here though. We can argue all day who sucks more if you want.
:hunter:
 
Titan "Tack" Fan said:
Titans all time record against the Texans: 6-2
Titans vs. Texans last year: 2-0
Titans final record last year: 4-12
Texans final record last year: 2-14
Titans draft picks: Vince Young (best college QB), LenDale White (most rushing TDs in NCAA)
Texans draft picks: Mario Williams, DeMeco Ryans (both very good defensive players, but neither is dominating)
Titans notable offseason FA pickups: David Givens, Chris Hope, Kevin Mawae
Texans notable offseason FA pickups: Putzier (mediocre at best), Eric Moulds (good addition)
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So we were bad before. It's called we've gotten better. Name the players the Titans lost and name the players the Texans lost (basically nobody). Vince Young isn't even going to start until halfway or more through the season and LenDale White is the #3 RB behind Brown and Henry (even though it looks like one of those two are on there way out). Demeco and Williams will both be starters and you will see how dominating Williams will be when we play you.
 
TexanFan881 said:
So we were bad before. It's called we've gotten better. Name the players the Titans lost and name the players the Texans lost (basically nobody). Vince Young isn't even going to start until halfway or more through the season and LenDale White is the #3 RB behind Brown and Henry (even though it looks like one of those two are on there way out). Demeco and Williams will both be starters and you will see how dominating Williams will be when we play you.
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Was that an argument or are you agreeing with me? Both teams have improved. You guys will be atleast 3 wins better than last year and so will we. I think you guys made a mistake on passing on VY and Bush but we will just have to see.

In a perfect world VY and LW turn into Eddie and McNair and Mario and Demeco turn into Reggie White and Ray Lewis
 
Titan "Tack" Fan said:
Was that an argument or are you agreeing with me? Both teams have improved. You guys will be atleast 3 wins better than last year and so will we. I think you guys made a mistake on passing on VY and Bush but we will just have to see.

In a perfect world VY and LW turn into Eddie and McNair and Mario and Demeco turn into Reggie White and Ray Lewis
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To a point yes. I still think we will be a good team and we will be better than you this year. :texflag: We will both be improved, but us much more. You guys will probably get 5-7 wins this year with us probably 7-10.
 
swtbound07 said:
the titans suck...the texans USED to suck. Thats the difference.
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I don't understand this statement. How do you guys not suck anymore? There hasn't been one down of the 2006 season played yet and you think you don't suck anymore? Who's to say you won't have 2,3,4 wins? Anything can happen and it's possible you repeat a 2 win season. You NEVER know. So you can't just say "the texans USED to suck" cause you have no idea.
 
Enjoy rooting for your Bud Adams team. I know I tried to enjoy it for quite a few years. What a complete waste of time that turned out to be.
 
TexansFanatic said:
Enjoy rooting for your Bud Adams team. I know I tried to enjoy it for quite a few years. What a complete waste of time that turned out to be.
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So are you saying rooting for the Texans is better?
 
Titan "Tack" Fan said:
I don't understand this statement. How do you guys not suck anymore? There hasn't been one down of the 2006 season played yet and you think you don't suck anymore? Who's to say you won't have 2,3,4 wins? Anything can happen and it's possible you repeat a 2 win season. You NEVER know. So you can't just say "the texans USED to suck" cause you have no idea.
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Sure I can...IM To say we wont have 2,3,4 wins....I would also be willing to bet a fair sum of money the titans wont crack 5 this season. the 2006 season doesnt have to happen....your franchise could go 16-0 and they would still suck. The treatment of the city of houston, of our fan base, is enough to relegate the titans to the depths of nfl hell forever. I don't care how improved you are....you still suck.
 
I'd rather be a cow skull than a flaming thumbtack.
What does a thumbtack have to do with titans, anyway?
 
swtbound07 said:
Sure I can...IM To say we wont have 2,3,4 wins....I would also be willing to bet a fair sum of money the titans wont crack 5 this season. the 2006 season doesnt have to happen....your franchise could go 16-0 and they would still suck. The treatment of the city of houston, of our fan base, is enough to relegate the titans to the depths of nfl hell forever. I don't care how improved you are....you still suck.
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:rofl: Yea, what he said!:tease:
 
Titan "Tack" Fan said:
Boy i can't wait til the season starts. When we sweep you guys again i am going to have some fun on here.
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If we get sweeped by you we must be on our way to another 2-14 season. And that's not going to happen. Just be happy that you used to be able to beat us and try not to worry about us facing you this year.
 
BroussardSaint said:
I don't know about that man. Remember their team USED to suck:rolleyes:
And BTW our overall record is 1-0 against the Texans:bananasplit:
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Yeah and you have had 1 losing season since '02. They've had 4. The Saints might "suck" as an organization, but i think they're just stuck in mediocrity. Unfortunately for the Texans, they are stuck in the basement. (and yes i know the past couple of years the titans have been too, the Titans do currently suck you dont have to remind me)
 
If we're going to go off of what happened in years past I guess the Steelers are going to win the Super Bowl every year.
 
Titan "Tack" Fan said:
Boy i can't wait til the season starts. When we sweep you guys again i am going to have some fun on here.
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Hey everybody SSSSHHHHH, the Tack fan is sleeping because he's dreaming of some pretty good BS.:stirpot:
 
Hey BS,

Talk noise when you got the name on the dotted line, no wonder no one respects Aints fans. You clowns need to get a real coach not some castoff from Dallas, I see Reggie signing SOMEDAY and it will be during 2006 season BUT not before season starts


Bush (the #1 every houston fan wanted...NOT ME) will be signed and will be in saints training camp (CRACK TALKIN). there's no need for houston fans to hate on Reggie because you're front office messed up( your front office is going to have to pay Full Time price for a Part Time RB who already has missed a lot with his hamstring problems). hate on you're rivals IE: COLTS,TITANS,JAGS. I guess BS Aint thinks telling truth about Reggie is hating on him, well maybe he should get used to people telling truth about Reggie and we will see him hating on Reggie when Reggie holds out:stirpot:
 
Titan "Tack" Fan said:
If you guys sweep us i won't leave either, i will come on here and take the hits.
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I hear ya. In all reality it's going to be an interesting year to say the least.:ok:
 
Titan "Tack" Fan said:
In a perfect world VY and LW turn into Eddie and McNair and Mario and Demeco turn into Reggie White and Ray Lewis
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I like that, especially since we've already got our Aikman and Emmitt.....
 
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