What did Randy Moss do?

[Fiddy]

And for those you missed it: http://www.tvgasm.com/archives/sports/000482.html

Just click on the picture and read the paragraph and look at the next pic. I find the second pick to be more distrubing then Moss' celebration...

 

[StarStruck]

I believe the people most upset yesterday with Randy Moss, and his stupid attention getting tricks are Packer fans. Simply because they lost.
These talented, and very attention grabbing players will continue to irritate.
Give them their penalties/fines .. and keep on talking about it .. they love it!!
Fuel that fire. Your frustration only makes them want to keep it up.

I could be like DB and a little warped ..maybe I watch too much South Park too.
I enjoyed the Vikings win despite Moss' display.

To view it from another perspective, the Packer fans were probably transferring their frustrations to Moss which took away the attention from the type of day that Bret Farve was having. To focus on the total game, man, Farve had a bad day.

 

[disaacks3]

1. I'm with a.j. - FOX questioning ANYBODY on morals is a joke...this is the network that brought us "Who wants to marry a millionaire?" and "Who's Your daddy?"

2. Randy Moss is a punk - He's always been a punk and always will be a punk. He's also one of the most talented WRs that the NFL has ever seen...for that reason alone, many teams will 'overlook' his antics.

3. Moss' "show" was no more / no less morally reprehensible than a standard T.O. offering....though I tend to think T.O. has more artistic merit.

4. There shouldn't be any fine, etc. for Moss' post-touchdown antics. If the NFL wants to fine him for engaging in a profanity-laced tirade towards the GB fans on the sideline (especially in the light of recent events in the NBA and MLB), that's OK by me.

 

[JustBonee]

To view it from another perspective, the Packer fans were probably transferring their frustrations to Moss which took away the attention from the type of day that Bret Farve was having. To focus on the total game, man, Farve had a bad day.

I agree completely. Something to forget about those 4 interceptions!
Green Bay fans really look the hypocrites today ... per the newspaper article above, about their fans routinely mooning visiting players buses.

Here Fiddy, make this into an avatar ...

 

[Porky]

Well, I'm clearly in the minority, at least on this MB. That's okay by me. I have never been one to "go along to get along". I have my opinions, and I rarely change them, especially when it comes to morality, and what I would term common deceny. What this highlights to me is that, once again, I think our culture has taken a turn for the worse. The other thing that bothers me is trying to justify one act by pointing out another equally disgraceful act. It reminds me of the kid, who after getting his hand caught in the cookie jar, exclaims "But Johnny did it too". What alot of this really boils done to is time and place. Just like nipplegate. Time and place folks. BTW - I like the cheerleaders as much as anyone.

 

[infantrycak]

I am equally shocked at the reaction on this board. The coarsening of our culture continues unabated.

Now I didn't like it, and I don't like Moss' antics, but how does a fake mooning indicate a coarsening of our culture? I mean, it is not like this is something beyond the pale of what had occured before. Mooning has been around for decades, along with streaking and has never met with any cultural opprobrium. Yeah, it is always against the rules, but it has gone on, been the subject of jokes and appeared in movies at least since the 60's. I dislike Moss doing it, but it hardly seems like the decline of the Roman empire to me.

 

[Porky]

Now I didn't like it, and I don't like Moss' antics, but how does a fake mooning indicate a coarsening of our culture? I mean, it is not like this is something beyond the pale of what had occured before. Mooning has been around for decades, along with streaking and has never met with any cultural opprobrium. Yeah, it is always against the rules, but it has gone on, been the subject of jokes and appeared in movies at least since the 60's. I dislike Moss doing it, but it hardly seems like the decline of the Roman empire to me.

It's not the act, it's the reaction to the act. That was the reason for what I said. No, I don't think this is the end of western civilzation as we know it. But, in my day, (God I feel old) there was something called class, and sportsmanship. Showing up an opponent was always met with universal disdain. I long for the days when Earl Cambell would score, and simply hand the ball to the ref. Act like you've been there before. You job is to score. Heck, when I fix a pc, I don't go and moon my customers. Nor do I moon my co-workers because they couldn't fix the same pc I just did. Maybe you do, but I think those kind of antics are for Animal House, not national TV.

BTW - Buckwheat is still looking for his hair

 

[infantrycak]

It's not the act, it's the reaction to the act.

Now that I can absolutely agree with you on. Society has lost a large part of its self-policing. People cutting in line, being rude, etc. and nothing happens other than an intellectual exchange of birds. In fact, my wife was accosted for standing up to another customer that was trying to rip off a store recently--the other customers said she had put all of their lives in danger. I just can't understand that attitude--avoid all conflict, indulge every worst possibility.

But, in my day, (God I feel old) ...

We aren't that far apart and I find myself saying things like this more and more. Of course half the time it is about the loss of conservative ideals in the Republican party and the devolution of political debate, but hey same sentiment.

 

[AndreJ]

I long for the days when Earl Cambell would score, and simply hand the ball to the ref.

How boring is that. Randy for President!

 

[Double Barrel]

Honestly, Porky, a little melodramatic with the "coarsening of our culture" comment 'eh?

IMO, I think we are actually going in the right direction.

Why?

Because many of the "social etiquette" rules that you hearken back to are really nothing more than white snow covering dog poo.

Everyone wants to compare today to the 1950's. Back when people were "civil"...as long as black folks didn't drink from white fountains and stayed at the back of the bus.

Or maybe you are talking about the 1920's, when women couldn't vote?

When you speak of a cultural decline, what reference point in our history are you utilizing to compare today's atmosphere to?

Of course I'm not saying you condone segregation or banning women's suffrage (or even imply it towards you. I know you're nothing like that).

I'm just trying to figure out what part of our history were things so much more "respectful"?

And you mentioned Earl Campbell, the Great 34. Classy as classy gets. One of my all-time heroes as a kid (and still is today).

But, that same team had Billy "Whiteshoes" Johnson! One of the originators of the over-the-top endzone celebrations if there ever was one! Did you complain about ol' Whiteshoes back then, too?

And Fiddy, that second picture in your link is just WRONG!!..and quite scary, too! I'm going to have nightmares now.

 

[StarStruck]

BTW - Buckwheat is still looking for his hair

I had to do a google check to confirm, but Buckwheat's hair was considerably shorter. If memory serves me correctly, I believe Moss' hairdo is more of the ungroomed late 60 to early 70's variety.

 

[shinerbock_girl]

Yes, Plummer got a fine, which I'll bet Moss's will be bigger. And would we all be acting this way if Buck hadn't droned on and on and on about the celebration? Even more damning, and showing how people are overreacting, Moss was caught several times, several, yelling MF'er to the crowd; why isn't anybody screaming about that?

Is Moss a good guy? No. Am I glad Casserley said he wouldn't want Moss on the Texans? Yes. Were the endzone antics worse then the old NBA throat slash, plummer firing the bird in Denver, the Pacers-Pistons incident, Reggie White's comments, Mad Max attacking a fan or Barkley throwing somebody through a window? No.

Just trying to put things in perspective.

If TO would have done this, would he have been fined??? But i did think he got fined for that pre game NFL commerical....LOL....

 

[shinerbock_girl]

I agree completely. Something to forget about those 4 interceptions!
Green Bay fans really look the hypocrites today ... per the newspaper article above, about their fans routinely mooning visiting players buses.

Here Fiddy, make this into an avatar ...

That boy needs a serious HAIRCUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Porky]

I've never been a huge fan of the pre-planned type celebrations. If someone is truly excited over what they just did, and their is a spontaneous celebration, or joy, I'm down with that. But, even with the pre-planned celebrations, I think there is a distinction. While it's true white shoes celebrated and danced with the best of them, I can't recall a time when he showed up, or embarrased his opponent. Class is always in season, and there is never a wrong time to display it.

As to your other comment, I don't really get the analogy, and I see it quite often. Because there was one thing in our society that most feel is wrong, then that means it somehow negates all of the things that were right? That doesn't make any sense to me. If our culture contiues it's descent into the abyss, then in 40 years, will you tell me that the whole first decade of the 2000's was rotten because (your issue here). There is good and bad in every era and every peoples. What you are advocating is throwing the baby out with the bath water.

 

[Porky]

How boring is that. Randy for President!

One man's boring is another man's class. If Earl was boring, I would take a 53 man roster full of Earl's.

 

[AndreJ]

Is Moss a good guy? No. Am I glad Casserley said he wouldn't want Moss on the Texans? Yes.

I wouldn't care if Moss was Osama Bin Laden's #1 man. I would take him in a heartbeat. If you honestly can say you wouldn't have Moss across the field from AJ then you may need to see a phsychiatrist. Thats like Total World Domination. But then again if we don't get any protection for Carr it wouldn't make a difference.

Back to the subject. Patting yourself on the behind is really not that serious. I know I'm pretty younger than most of you, but i take it you all haven't seen many Music Videos on MTV or BET. If anything i think you all would be complaining and raising hell about his profanity during the post-game interviews. Then again we live in an age where profanity is commonly used on a number of daily TV shows.

Bottom Line....... Moss is the WR whether you like his behavior or not.

 

[Fiddy]

I watched Desperate Housewives last night because there was no Sunday Night Football on and that was on national televsion and it was a whole lot worse than Moss pretending to moon some fans...

 

[beerlover]

I would just like to offer my apolgies to anyone I offended for my remarks regarding age, it was not a blanket statement reflecting my views of all the young people in society, just one. Heck I have a 16 year old myself & she never ceases to amaze me on a constant basis.

The problem I have is the message we are sending to the younger generation thats it's OK to defecate on your opponents field, disrespect them & there is not a dog gone thing you can do about it. This may or may not lead to further incedence, the majority of times nothing comes of it but just that one time when something does happen, well.......

Because I enjoy watching Culpepper (not to mention his unabashed celebrations-which seem completly spontaneous) I was rooting for the Vikings. Moss is a great player, even if he is just 50% of the time. I just wonder how all of us would feel sitting in the Bull Pen and witnessing that kind of display of celebration @ Relient, how would it feel then?

 

[StarStruck]

I wouldn't care if Moss was Osama Bin Laden's #1 man. I would take him in a heartbeat. If you honestly can say you wouldn't have Moss across the field from AJ then you may need to see a phsychiatrist. Thats like Total World Domination. But then again if we don't get any protection for Carr it wouldn't make a difference.

Bottom Line....... Moss is the WR whether you like his behavior or not.

I don't think anyone can dispute Moss' talent and skill as a top WR, but he isn't above reproof/rebuke and his behavior can be a major distraction -- otherwise he would have the Star on his helmet.

 

[Porky]

I watched Desperate Housewives last night because there was no Sunday Night Football on and that was on national televsion and it was a whole lot worse than Moss pretending to moon some fans...

I know this may be hard to understand, but it's all about time, place, and context. If you go to a peep show, and get offended because there are naked girls there, you have a problem. if you go to church and instead see a strip show, then you have every right to be offended. I also watched Desperate Houewives last night. It's one of the wittiest shows I have ever seen. But, I know that the subject matter will include some adult situations. I know what to expect. What do you tell thousands of parents with small ones that sit down to watch playoff football and see rude gestures instead?

As to MTV, I agree. They are bad, and there should be a way for parents to either lock it out of there subsriptsion, are put those channels in a different tier, along with other more adult channels. MTV has changed DRAMATICALLY since I was a kid, and not for the better.

 

[ledzeppelin229]

MTV is a joke. I wish they had never gotten their hands on our Super Bowl halftime show, and I felt that way before the Janet Jackson "wardrobe malfunction".

 

[ccdude730]

I watched Desperate Housewives last night because there was no Sunday Night Football on and that was on national televsion and it was a whole lot worse than Moss pretending to moon some fans...

EVA FROM CORPUS CHRISTI!!!! she is wow.

moss? he does his thing fine or no fine - no sense in beating a dead horse....
was kinda funny though

 

[aj.]

Those Packers fans are going to corrupt society as we know it. This is an outrage. Even my Pomerianian was offended. Gotta go watch Pat Robertson now.

 

[Boxscore]

I thought Moss's display was another classic. I have no respect for the man other than his receiving capabilities. Just wait until he meets Lito Sheppard, Sheldon Brown, Brian dawkins and Michael Lewis this Sunday.

The Eagles addition of Defensive end Jerome kearse and linebacker Jeramia Trotter makes the Eagle a better defense than last year.

 

[AndreJ]

I thought Moss's display was another classic. I have no respect for the man other than his receiving capabilities. Just wait until he meets Lito Sheppard, Sheldon Brown, Brian dawkins and Michael Lewis this Sunday.

The Eagles addition of Defensive end Jerome kearse and linebacker Jeramia Trotter makes the Eagle a better defense than last year.

The only man on that list of DB's that i will even bother mentioning are Brian Dawkins and maybe and thats a big maybe Michael Lewis. How lito sheppard made the pro bowl this year amazes me and shows you just how terrible the NFC really is. I will admit that i am probably the biggest Philly Eagles h8r in the world however, but unless Moss' ankle is still bothering him i don't think he will have any problem with philly just as he doesn't with any other team.

Aside from Moss, i expect Burleson and Robinson to have big games, because the Eagles will be so worried about Randy. However i am scared of the eagles front 7, but not the secondary.

I think I've made it obvious, but ill be rooting for da Vikings come sunday.

 

[LiveForTheGame]

#1- Packers fans moon opposing teams after a win for the home team
#2- Moss is immature and selfish but we have all known that his entire career so this isn't surprising
#3- His celebration lasted no more than 5 seconds including a hug with the teammates...the fake moon wasn't like 3 seconds and wasn't that explicit
#4- There are more classless acts that go on throughout the game
#5- He was wrong but as others have said the footage of his language was a whole lot worse for television than his fake mooning

It's my oppinion he planned it on purpose to keep attention on himself but off his 100x worse act of walking off the field...if you want to break him down and criticize him do it for something actually worth it...what he did yesterday was but a fraction of what ppl are making it out to be

 

[FILO_girl]

I will much enjoy Moss crying all the way home Sunday when the Eagles hand him his nasty tush. Then he can go back to doing his Office Max commercials!
Rubberband.....man.

 

[kbourda]

I found this interesting. Seems like we found Moss's motivation for the moonwalk yesterday.

Indianapolis Colts coach Tony Dungy said he saw Moss' action and, "I thought it was kind of humorous." "It's not the kind of thing you want to see on national TV, but I understand what it was all about," he said. "Anyone who has played in the NFC Central knows what that's about. The fans in Green Bay have a tradition in the parking lot after the game where they moon the visiting team's bus," he said. "It's kind of a unique sendoff." "I had seen it seven times because when I was with the Vikings, we lost to them seven times up there," he said.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs04/news/story?id=1963829

Interesting. I was just about to make light on that subject from Dungy myself. I guess it's a little different song and dance when the oppressed fight back. I thought nothing about the celebration. Because it was nothing. But I will say this, if that is true what Dungy said, i'm glad Moss did what he did.

 

[kbourda]

I know this may be hard to understand, but it's all about time, place, and context. If you go to a peep show, and get offended because there are naked girls there, you have a problem. if you go to church and instead see a strip show, then you have every right to be offended. I also watched Desperate Houewives last night. It's one of the wittiest shows I have ever seen. But, I know that the subject matter will include some adult situations. I know what to expect. What do you tell thousands of parents with small ones that sit down to watch playoff football and see rude gestures instead?

With all due respect sir. I do believe T&A can very much be associated with the NFL as well. Granted i'm not at all interested in seeing Moss's A**, but to say when you watch a game and not expect to see rude gestures, come on.

 

[D-ReK]

I, for one, was extremely outraged by this incident. Moss may be a good receiver, but his on and off-field antics are terribly appauling (anyone remember him running over a police officer?).

I applaud Joe Buck for standing up for all that this country seems to forget sometimes. Morals, scrupals, and ethics often get passed up in our society, and it is a shame. I'm sorry I had to see it, I'm sorry my mother had to see it, and I'm sorry that thousands of young children had to see it.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA J/K


I agree that everyone is severely overreacting to the situation. Moss shouldn't be fined or suspended. If this "celebration" wasn't enough to warrant a 15 yard penalty, it shouldn't warrant a fine or worse.

 

[kbourda]

BTW, someone tell Randy I have his black pick w/ the black fist attached. *lol*

 

[Errant Hothy]

With all due respect sir. I do believe T&A can very much be associated with the NFL as well. Granted i'm not at all interested in seeing Moss's A**, but to say when you watch a game and not expect to see rude gestures, come on.

Ditto. Darisus's damn near decapatating of Fergueson was a more social reprehinsable act then what Moss did.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The coverage of this is SOLELY based on Moss' character, not the act; and for anybody to get on their soapbox over how wrong it was and the reaction it's causing is being rather judgemently of the man, not the act. Cause the act was pretty tame; atleast I didn't have to explain it to my kid (cause kids get potty humour.)

 

[AndreJ]

I, for one, was extremely outraged by this incident. Moss may be a good receiver, but his on and off-field antics are terribly appauling (anyone remember him running over a police officer?).

I applaud Joe Buck for standing up for all that this country seems to forget sometimes. Morals, scrupals, and ethics often get passed up in our society, and it is a shame. I'm sorry I had to see it, I'm sorry my mother had to see it, and I'm sorry that thousands of young children had to see it.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA J/K


I agree that everyone is severely overreacting to the situation. Moss shouldn't be fined or suspended. If this "celebration" wasn't enough to warrant a 15 yard penalty, it shouldn't warrant a fine or worse.

LoL good one, had me goin there for a second.

 

[THE_HONKEY_TONK_KID]

You know I am sick and tired of players like Randy Moss..........having a stamp on their head. What Randy Moss did in my opinion was funny, and if we listened to Tony Dungy you kinda get the idea why he did it and it makes since. But everytime Randy Moss does something, even if its small, like the thing about Mike Tice, yeah he told the truth he doesn't know if Mike Tice is the guy, be he has his back whats wrong with that it made plenty of since to me. Now other things he does are just plain stupid. Walking off the feild during a game is disgraceful, squitting water at an official is just plain dumb, so I don't know.

But its guys like Terrell Owens and Randy Moss who do just a little something, and its blown out of propotion. Yeah they do some stupid things, but everytime they do something the media jumps on them, just to make a story. Randy Moss was having a good time Sunday after all the turmoil the Vikings have went though. Nothing more, nothing less. Just shut up about and move on to how the Vikings will pound the Eagles.

 

[swisher]

I love how when channel 2 showed the clip tonight they blurred out his butt. As if it was in witness protection.

 

[TexansCanes]

MTV is a joke. I wish they had never gotten their hands on our Super Bowl halftime show, and I felt that way before the Janet Jackson "wardrobe malfunction".

the halftime show was a joke. all of those songs come out like 2 years ago. still mad about missing that janet jackson thing.

i don't really care about the pretend mooning thing, because on my tv his pants were still up, all it was was a guy bending over. i don't even think that the celebration was that good, i like the sprinkler a lot better. also, espn said they wouldn't show it, they must be sick of showing all the guys actual asses that showed on Playmakers, what a joke. if he gets suspended, it means that you can make an illegal hit but you can't pretend to moon someone. what do you expect from a guy that acts like he is 6 years old.

 

[Wolf]

I saw a quote about Vince Carter NOT giving 100 percent for the Raptors ... and that was it of the whole situations.. Yet when Moss says he doesn't play every down, and Essay is written by every person in America and how shameful it is .

I am not sticking up for Moss with that, but at least he was truthful about it.

 

[Double Barrel]

I know this may be hard to understand, but it's all about time, place, and context. If you go to a peep show, and get offended because there are naked girls there, you have a problem. if you go to church and instead see a strip show, then you have every right to be offended. I also watched Desperate Houewives last night. It's one of the wittiest shows I have ever seen. But, I know that the subject matter will include some adult situations. I know what to expect. What do you tell thousands of parents with small ones that sit down to watch playoff football and see rude gestures instead?

Obviously you've never watched a second of Sponge Bob Squarepants...or Shrek for that matter. Potty humor abounds.

Do you honestly believe that Randy Moss' FAKE mooning will be to the detriment of society? Does Randy Moss have that much sway in our culture?

This is America, where a president gets oral sex in the Oval Office and presidents send young people to die in foreign lands for dubious reasons. Where politicians are bought and sold and corporate dominance of every aspect of your life is "normal". This is the land of hypocrisy, where gated communities keep the poor, hungry riff-raff away from private property. Where tens of thousands of kids go hungry every day as they barely survive above the poverty line.

Yet, a FAKE mooning is more obscene than these realities?

So your kid seeing a homeless beggar on the streets is o.k., but a football player pantomining a fake mooning gets you upset? Oooooh-kaaaay

Give me a break. The six o'clock news has more "offensive" material than any football game could contain.

Time and place for everything? Only if you live in a vacuum.

Welcome to the U.S.A...now you see how your parents felt when Elvis was subliminally suggesting indecent acts with his swaying hips.