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What can I expect from jacoby Jones?

handswarmer

handswarmer

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Wondering what you guys think of him.

I know that some think he cost them t playoff game vs the Ravens but now that the Ravens signed him, what does he bring to the table. I know he got behind Ed Reed on the one TD in the early season matchup
 
A guy with great straight line speed that can run a great post route but that's about it. He doesn't know how to make sharp cuts on his routes so separation from defenders is an issue. He also shy's away from contact and doesn't like taking hits. He blocks reasonably well for the run game. You can expect a highlight reel catch to be followed up by 3-4 bonehead plays and other games where he just disappears entirely. He's a track guy playing football.
 
handswarmer said:
Wondering what you guys think of him.

I know that some think he cost them t playoff game vs the Ravens but now that the Ravens signed him, what does he bring to the table. I know he got behind Ed Reed on the one TD in the early season matchup
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My guess is he'll have some good moments, but mostly he'll be inconsistent.

Maybe being cut will help him wake up some though.
 
handswarmer said:
Wondering what you guys think of him.

I know that some think he cost them t playoff game vs the Ravens but now that the Ravens signed him, what does he bring to the table. I know he got behind Ed Reed on the one TD in the early season matchup
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You can expect a lot of potential and very little reality.
He has had some real highlight catches but for every one of those count on 7 or 8 silly drops when the ball is in his hands.
 
handswarmer said:
Wondering what you guys think of him.

I know that some think he cost them t playoff game vs the Ravens but now that the Ravens signed him, what does he bring to the table. I know he got behind Ed Reed on the one TD in the early season matchup
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Please never ever bring his name to this board again.

In my opinion, he cost us a ring.

Mods can this please be moved? Has nothing to do with the Texans.
 
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You can expect him to scare the crap outa you every time he touches the ball .... The way he flails his arms about while running with the ball is asking for trouble.


You can expect him to drop easy catches and make boneheaded mistakes.

Two games against the Ravens come to mind - the OT game year before last he dropped what would have been the winning TD .... and in the playoff game he gave the Ravens a gift TD with that muffed punt.


He'll also run 50 yards east to west returning punts gaining 3 yards ....


Im glad he went elsewhere .... You'll wish he was elsewhere at some point during this season. :lol:


Hope we meet again in the playoffs and he gives back the gift.
 
People are correctly identifying problems but being overly harsh IMO. He is a very good open field runner whether it be on punt returns or after a catch. He is a danger to take one all the way at any time. He has problems making catches. He has problems not just accepting he is going to be tackled at times and taking what he can get (applies to both returns and passes) so you will get some stupid looking -3 yard returns and then he will bust one for 50 yards when you thought he was going to be nailed for 3. He is a poor route runner - rounds them off and seems to have issues with depth as in break at 10 v. break at 13 leaving the QB looking like he threw a bad pass. He is an above average run blocker.

He has all the physical ability to be a star but can't seem to put it together and I know from someone close Andre Johnson has put a lot of effort into trying to get JJ to put it together. Not sure y'all have someone who can be a better mentor than AJ and make it click for JJ.
 
handswarmer said:
Wondering what you guys think of him.

I know that some think he cost them t playoff game vs the Ravens but now that the Ravens signed him, what does he bring to the table. I know he got behind Ed Reed on the one TD in the early season matchup
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What to expect from JJ? He is streaky and inconsistent. He will make plays that will make you think he has arrived and is the next top receiver or he will make you want to tar and feather him and set him and fire.

JJ is a role player nothing more. If you end up needing to rely on him you are in trouble.
 
I don't know what's worse; his hands or decision making. I fully expect to see him cut...and I use to like him. Just saying.
 
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STFU! I don't care if it did bounce off my head.....It's mine now!:kubepalm:


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If he does it with us............I'm gonna KILL the little M..... F.....!!!!!!
 
handswarmer said:
Wondering what you guys think of him.

I know that some think he cost them t playoff game vs the Ravens but now that the Ravens signed him, what does he bring to the table. I know he got behind Ed Reed on the one TD in the early season matchup
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I think he's the perfect #3 for you guys. You have Boldin, you have Smith, no one is going to be expecting Jacoby to be your #1 receiver. But he'll do his job, get open, attract attention away from Boldin & Smith, help out your vertical game, & block downfield, helping to spring some big runs.

I wouldn't be looking to put him on my fantasy team, he's a #3, no more, no less.
 
thunderkyss said:
I think he's the perfect #3 for you guys. You have Boldin, you have Smith, no one is going to be expecting Jacoby to be your #1 receiver. But he'll do his job, get open, attract attention away from Boldin & Smith, help out your vertical game, & block downfield, helping to spring some big runs.

I wouldn't be looking to put him on my fantasy team, he's a #3, no more, no less.
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I agree with that.
 
Look up the 63 page "Jacoby's Got To Go" thread on here and you will have all the information about him you will ever need.
 
DX-TEX said:
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And running sideline to sidline and not north/south.
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I still don't understand how you can tackle a guy that doesn't have his hands on the ball......

The coverage guys knew he muffed it yet he out right tackled him.

Doesn't change a dumb ass decision though.......
 
Big Lou said:
I still don't understand how you can tackle a guy that doesn't have his hands on the ball......

The coverage guys knew he muffed it yet he out right tackled him.

Doesn't change a dumb ass decision though.......
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While agree Jacoby was stupid I was also wondering how there wasn't a flag on the Ravens there.
 
Forgive me for not remembering the details but,

There was a game against the Titans in Tennessee about 2 years ago and late in the 4th quarter Jacoby coughed up the ball on a punt that he fielded around the 5 yard line and Tennessee recovered. Due to some weird rule that nobody knew about at the time the Texans maintained possession and won the game.

Jacoby avoided catastrophe.

In a 2011 regular season Texans game Jacoby fielded a punt off the bounce around the 15 yard line and had a very nice return. Again forgive me for not remembering the exact game but I remember cursing him for fielding the ball in the first place even though he had a good return.

Jacoby avoided catastrophe again.

In the playoffs he made the same mistake he has made over and over. This time it hurt us enough to get rid of him and I couldn't be happier. There is a reason we all held our breath when Jones returned a punt.

As a receiver I think Jones is extremely limited. Like everyone says, he might make a big play or two but he will also drop passes and disappear completely at times.
 
JJ reminds me of a little kid in a man's body. One that hasn't learned how to focus, and has an attention span of about 3 sec. IF he ever grows up he just MIGHT be a decent player. Unfortuately, he'll be much to old when that day comes!:)
 
infantrycak said:
People are correctly identifying problems but being overly harsh IMO. He is a very good open field runner whether it be on punt returns or after a catch. He is a danger to take one all the way at any time. He has problems making catches. He has problems not just accepting he is going to be tackled at times and taking what he can get (applies to both returns and passes) so you will get some stupid looking -3 yard returns and then he will bust one for 50 yards when you thought he was going to be nailed for 3. He is a poor route runner - rounds them off and seems to have issues with depth as in break at 10 v. break at 13 leaving the QB looking like he threw a bad pass. He is an above average run blocker.

He has all the physical ability to be a star but can't seem to put it together and I know from someone close Andre Johnson has put a lot of effort into trying to get JJ to put it together. Not sure y'all have someone who can be a better mentor than AJ and make it click for JJ.
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thunderkyss said:
I think he's the perfect #3 for you guys. You have Boldin, you have Smith, no one is going to be expecting Jacoby to be your #1 receiver. But he'll do his job, get open, attract attention away from Boldin & Smith, help out your vertical game, & block downfield, helping to spring some big runs.

I wouldn't be looking to put him on my fantasy team, he's a #3, no more, no less.
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These two assessments are as close to objective as you'll get around here. Many Texans fans think he SINGLE-HANDEDLY cost us the playoff game against you guys. While Jones' early game screw up certainly didn't help us, I think that's a really weak excuse [three INTs!!]. But that's a totally different conversation. I only bring it up to let you know that those viewpoints are the reason you may not get an objective assessment on Jones from most of my MB buddies.

Now, having said that, my earlier post still stands.
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He's had his shot here. It's time for us to upgrade.
 
infantrycak said:
I have wondered that as well. Once he muffs the ball doesn't that tackle become a block in the back?
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After my last post I read yours. Wasn't the decision in the Titans game I talked about that you could not interfere with the returner until the ball hit the ground?

Seems contradictory what happened in the Ravens game and what happened in Titans game I mentioned.
 
When plays like that happen, I've always looked at it like when a pass is tipped, and a defender is given clearance to lay anyone out near the ball because it's been touched.
 
dc_txtech said:
After my last post I read yours. Wasn't the decision in the Titans game I talked about that you could not interfere with the returner until the ball hit the ground?

Seems contradictory what happened in the Ravens game and what happened in Titans game I mentioned.
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In the Titan's game he called for fair catch, which gives him rights to the ball until it touches the ground.

In the Raven's game he did not call for a fair catch.
 
TejasTom said:
In the Titan's game he called for fair catch, which gives him rights to the ball until it touches the ground.

In the Raven's game he did not call for a fair catch.
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Ah, thank you for that. He still muffed the punt badly in the Titans game though.
 
infantrycak said:
I have wondered that as well. Once he muffs the ball doesn't that tackle become a block in the back?
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No as original contact is made after the bobble and resulted in him not catching it at all .... if he's a reciever trying to catch it you do the same thing. Good play IMO.
 
Corrosion said:
No as original contact is made after the bobble and resulted in him not catching it at all .... if he's a reciever trying to catch it you do the same thing. Good play IMO.
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I realize possession was not established yet but gunners and other ST members are not allowed to just run down field and tackle people. He got outright tackled and from the rear. That dude full on wrap tackled JJ. There's a reason you don't see that all over the field on kicks/punts.
 
infantrycak said:
I realize possession was not established yet but gunners and other ST members are not allowed to just run down field and tackle people. He got outright tackled and from the rear. That dude full on wrap tackled JJ. There's a reason you don't see that all over the field on kicks/punts.
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The defender hesitated giving him opportunity to make the catch , the bobble comes a split second before contact .... I think its a good play on the defenders part.

You have to take into consideration that the defenders job is to tackle the guy with the ball .... For all he knows , JJ caught it and he's tackling him. Kind of a heat of the moment thing , you cant really make a call like that.

JJ had no business catching that ball .... not even a fair catch at that point the defender was on top of him.
 
Corrosion said:
No as original contact is made after the bobble and resulted in him not catching it at all .... if he's a reciever trying to catch it you do the same thing. Good play IMO.
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Right and it's the same thing with qb's fumbling a snap.

Once someone fumbles or tips a live ball they are fair game for that short window while the scramble for the ball ensues. Hard for a defender to know if that player has the ball or not, and even if they don't you're told to tackle the guy anyway.

I don't know if there is any rule on it though.
 
Corrosion said:
The defender hesitated giving him opportunity to make the catch , the bobble comes a split second before contact .... I think its a good play on the defenders part.

You have to take into consideration that the defenders job is to tackle the guy with the ball .... For all he knows , JJ caught it and he's tackling him. Kind of a heat of the moment thing , you cant really make a call like that.

JJ had no business catching that ball .... not even a fair catch at that point the defender was on top of him.
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I agree JJ had no business attempting what he did. And I am not claiming some kind of flagrant foul which was missed. But I do think the wrap up tackle was an uncalled foul. Not a fair catch foul because JJ didn't signal for one. Just a block in the back foul. They still would have gotten the ball, it would have just been moved back.
 
infantrycak said:
I agree JJ had no business attempting what he did. And I am not claiming some kind of flagrant foul which was missed. But I do think the wrap up tackle was an uncalled foul. Not a fair catch foul because JJ didn't signal for one. Just a block in the back foul. They still would have gotten the ball, it would have just been moved back.
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I see your point , thing is the timing of it .... when he bobbles the ball , thats about the time he gets hit causing the fumble .... its a bang bang play.

Is it a block or is it a tackle .... ball carrier bobbles the ball , he's still the ball carrier .... I think thats what it boils down to.

Had the ball already been on the ground , I would agree .... Its all about the timing of the events within the play.
 
A serviceable #3 WR that will stretch the field. Maybe the change of scenery will do him some good. Funnily enough, I was playing Madden with updated rosters yesterday and he torched Jonathan Joseph for a 67 yard touchdown :kubepalm: I shouldn't have done that eight man blitz :wadepalm:
 
I don't know if anyone else feels the same way, but I wouldn't be that surprised if Jacoby became a really good receiver in a different system. I don't think Kubiak is that good at game planning for guys like him who don't really have the intelligence to execute an extremely complicated playbook, but who can do a few simple things really well if he's told to concentrate on them.

That said, it isn't as if I'm going to be upset that we didn't keep hold of him even if he does make a good contribution, it was never going to happen in Houston anyway.
 
I'm glad Jacoby Jones is gone so I don't have to worry about him during a game anymore. My blood pressure goes up 20 points during a game when he's in it. I don't care if he does good or bad for the Ravens, I'm just glad he's gone. I seriously doubt Jones, as a Raven, is going to come back and bite our ass. But, if it happens, so be it. It wouldn't be the first time and it most certainly won't be the last.
 
handswarmer said:
Wondering what you guys think of him.

I know that some think he cost them t playoff game vs the Ravens but now that the Ravens signed him, what does he bring to the table. I know he got behind Ed Reed on the one TD in the early season matchup
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What can you expect??

A lot of this: :facepalm:
 
handswarmer said:
I know he got behind Ed Reed on the one TD in the early season matchup
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That was less of Jacoby getting behind Reed and more of Reed and the Baltimore D respecting the run game... It was the system more than anything else...

The play that sticks out in my mind is the last play of the game against Oakland this year... Ball's at/inside the 5.. Schaub breaks pocket and runs toward the left side... Jacoby's just playing grab ass with the DB watching things happen as Schaub's running right at him... JJ should have at least faded back to the corner for a jump ball...even if it were highly contested it would have been better than Schaub running or just throwing it to an open spot hoping Jacoby might snap out of it... It's not that Jacoby's lazy, or doesn't care, he just gets caught up and loses focus... In this case, I think he was planning on blocking if Schaub chose to run, but he should have been aware he was in no position to block for Schaub, and great position to fade back...

Maybe a change of scenery helps Jacoby, and i hope it does. A lot of talent there, just needs more direction...
 
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