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What Buffalo thinks...
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blockhead83
Rookie
Makes sense to me. They look at us just how we look at them. No telling who will be the soft spot until the whistle blows.
Errant Hothy
Hypermediocrity
Remember last year when we all thought we'd go 2-0 out of the gate, cause we had a soft spot at the top of the schedule?
And wasn't Miami pretty confident two seasons back?
And wasn't Miami pretty confident two seasons back?
Reddevil63
Veteran
I could be mistaken, but arent we 2-0 against Buffalo?
Fiddy
All Pro
No, we are 1-1. Loss the first year.Reddevil63 said:
We are a notch below the Bills, still doesnt mean we cant win. We should be able to keep Losman in check but it's a good thing I got McGahee in my dynasty league because he is going to tear us up. It will take a few weeks for our new LBs to gel.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Fiddy said:
Yeah, I remember that one. We were so close to being able to seal the deal there. Buffalo was expected to put it on us but the team played them tough until the end. I also remember it for a stupid, stupid Jay Foreman penalty that hurt us. We came close to being 2-0 against the Bills though.
canadiantexan
Waterboy
I think it's good we play them week one with a rookie QB. Having said that we cannot take them for granted. The bills have one of the best D units in the league and probobly THE BEST young running back in the league. If we can stop the run and move the ball well forcing Losman to beat us i LIKE OUR CHANCES. As far as being a notch below Buffalo let's hope they truly believe that and we catch them by suprise(right Dallas and Miami).
Remember this is not quite the same Buffalo team as last year. With Bledsoe gone and Losman in their not as strong combined with the fact they have no 1st rounder I would say they have gotten a little worse this year and after the draft we will have gotten a little better!(hopefully)
Remember this is not quite the same Buffalo team as last year. With Bledsoe gone and Losman in their not as strong combined with the fact they have no 1st rounder I would say they have gotten a little worse this year and after the draft we will have gotten a little better!(hopefully)
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
We are definitely not a notch below them. This is just a local sportswriter's homeristic view and optimisim of their new qb and pending season. They were on the brink of the payoffs last year and this year there throwing their new qb out there. Sounds kinda familiar doesn't it (Cincinatti). They will be taking a small step back, but in the long run it will work out for them. You also have to take in account the improvement our team has made. By the time this game takes place, it will be about 6 months since David suffured his last sack, so he shouldn't be ancy like he is sometimes. Last year he started off hot and was one of the highest rated qbs, especialy in the fourth. It just seemed as the season went on and after endless sacks he was knocked out of his rhythm, lost trust in his line, and had the deer in headlights look. The procussions of the sacks will be long faded by the time this game takes place.
Dunta isn't coming into this opener a rookie and coming off last year probably has as much confidence as any player on our team. Someone mentioned the inexperience of the lbs, but what about the experience gained by babin. He really started comming on towards the end of last year and he should be a big peice of the many blitz packages we will be throwing at this new qb. By no means am I checking this one off as a win, cause we have seen what a rookie qb can do (Big Ben), but if we are going to be a playoff team this year this is one of those games we have to win. With the crappy bye week they gave us this year it is really important we go in 2-0.
Dunta isn't coming into this opener a rookie and coming off last year probably has as much confidence as any player on our team. Someone mentioned the inexperience of the lbs, but what about the experience gained by babin. He really started comming on towards the end of last year and he should be a big peice of the many blitz packages we will be throwing at this new qb. By no means am I checking this one off as a win, cause we have seen what a rookie qb can do (Big Ben), but if we are going to be a playoff team this year this is one of those games we have to win. With the crappy bye week they gave us this year it is really important we go in 2-0.
In this game, we are significant underdogs. They are at home on opening day. If the crowd is ever in a game, this one is it (besides playoff games). They have a super strong defense. They have a great running game. They have a very strong receiving core (2 great receivers). On the other hand, we have a strong receiver, a potentially strong running/passing game, and a fairly new defense. Yes we are very much underdogs, but at the same time, sometimes the underdog wins. Otherwise, SF and MIA would have been 0-16, you know?
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
Vinny said:
They had one or the best defenses last year, but that always changes from year to year. Dallas had the best defense two seasons ago and they were horrible last year. Didn't Buffalo lose their NT to FA. They have a better defense on paper but we are more balanced then they will be. They have to focus on shuting down our running and passing game. We should and I say "should" with caution only have to worry with their running game. Also don't count out our defense. If you throw out that browns game we had the best defense in the league over a 3 game span.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
They don't have to worry about our passing game if it is the same as last years, and their defense is very impressive. Our passing offense was absoutely horrible at the end of the year. I'm just not a big homer so I tell it like I see it. Right now, we are clear underdogs to a better unit. Things may change a bit...but not much until proven otherwise.
TheOgre
All Pro
I think the Bills line is better than it looks on paper. They gave up a lot of sacks, but part of that was because Bledsoe held the ball too long (sound familiar?). They also have been a good run blocking team. This team looks a lot like last year's Pittsburgh. The big question is the QB. Can Losman avoid losing games? He does have an ego and that could result in some forced plays. If he can be a game manager, then they could have a good season.
canadiantexan
Waterboy
Sarg01 said:
Exactly I dont think anyone is thinking this will be an easy game but it is a game we could win .
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
Vinny said:
I might be optimistic, but I'm not a big homer and I know what our flaws are, or should I say ? marks, because we don't know internaly what our coaching staff has done to address those needs and we haven't even been to the draft. You keep on bringing up stuff we did last year and so am I. At the beginning of last year when Carr had confidence and before he was gunshy we had one of the best passing teams in the league. You can call me a homer, but going into this year if were going to be taken seriously there are some game we HAVE to win and this is one of them. I just don't see us as clear underdogs to a better team. All yall keep saying is they got a better defense and thats it. Well, well balance teams win. Everybody always makes a big deal about the pats defense, but their offense probably won them more games last year by controling to clock. They're just as good offensively as they are defensively. We are just as good offensively as we are defensively, we may not be the best on both sides, but we are good enough to hurt you on both sides of the ball. We should be able to keep their offense off the field and our offense is good enough to put some points up on the board.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
Our last five games last year. We only busted 200 passing yards once. Carr has only thrown for 3 + TD's in a game once (in 3 years). Until we prove otherwise, we have a weak passing offense.
PASSING
CP/AT YDS TD INT
D. Carr 12/25 157 0 2
D. Carr 16/21 167 1 1
D. Carr 13/29 220 1 0
D. Carr 14/20 139 1 2
D. Carr 15/25 114 1 0
PASSING
CP/AT YDS TD INT
D. Carr 12/25 157 0 2
D. Carr 16/21 167 1 1
D. Carr 13/29 220 1 0
D. Carr 14/20 139 1 2
D. Carr 15/25 114 1 0
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
Vinny said:
Thats why I said at the BEGINNING of last season, since this game will be the first one of the year. Beleive it our not a season long sack fest takes its toll on a young qb.
Davids first 7 games
_______td ints yards pass. rt.
week#1 0 2 229 70.3
after the slow start to S.D.
week#2 2 1 313 104.2
week#3 1 1 233 80.9
week#4 1 0 228 108.6
week#5 3 0 372 116.4
week#6 1 1 266 92.8
week#8 1 0 276 109.4
This guy was on the brink of breaking out last year. The sacks finally caught up to him, you cannot ask a guy to take a beating like that throughout a whole season. Next year he will only be better and hopefully the oline as well.
Str8tupg42k1
Waterboy
If our defense can pick off were we left off last year we have a 50/50 chance. I would try to give them different looks to try to confuse Losman. Send Dunta on a blitz package. Then hopefully if Carr Bomb is correct Carr should feel "rejunvinated" from all the sacks he took and come out the gates firing on all cylinders. A good dose of DD and pure execution should keep this good. To me it's gonna be a defensive game. I would set my mind on trying to give a season opener to Losman he will never forget.(Defense, and mentally wise, no injuries.)
blockhead83
Rookie
McGahee...Evans..Moulds, the bills have some nice weapons on offense. Like a few others have mentioned, if Losman comes out and makes a few rookie mistakes, it could turn the tables for us. On the flip side, we'll have to see how our D can perform and how quickly they will gel with our new look linebacking crew. I think we definitely have a good shot at the Bills, maybe 40-60, so we're not big underdogs. And I agree, if Carr can play like he did at the beginning of last season, and DD can avoid his early season fumblitis, we should have a good performance.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
Only way tony is comming off the bench is for mop up duty. I like it though
canadiantexan
Waterboy
TEXANS84 said:
Sounds to me the guy knows what he is talking about(haha) I wonder why he thinks Banks will be in. Injury to Carr? please no!
Oilers/Texans
Waterboy
I was glad to see the cruddy Bills on the schedule for week one of the season. It will be JP's first start at QB so that might help greatly. I think Buffalo really messed up by getting rid of Bledsoe. Buffalo loss is Dallas gain.
Texansbacker
Waterboy
Cracks me up every time I hear everyone wanting to "be realistic" and ranking teams based on the previous year and by their collective talent.
The margin of victory in the NFL is very small. Although you can get a pretty good read on a team based on past performance and through analysis of their current roster, you have to be a soothsayer to accurately determine who will win a game or season. After all, once you factor in emotions, health, atmosphere, weather, etc, etc., some funny things can happen in football.
Besides that, if I looked at The Mighty Buffaloes record last year which assumedly places the Texans as great underdogs this year, I am thoroughly unimpressed.
Last year:
Buffalo was swept by the Patriots handily.
They split with the Jets.
Lost to the Raiders (Texans' beat the Raiders) Lost to Jacksonville(oh, that is right the Texans swept the Jags), and lost to both the Ravens and Steelers.
Who did they beat? Cardinals, Miami twice (Impressed!), San Fran(WOW!), Cleveland(Powerhouse), Cincy, St. Louis and Seattle. Impressive!
That said, what is in the past is in the past. My belief is that the Texans will be greatly improved with added experience for the first year players along with the maturation of Carr. I also believe that Capers will have the team mentally ready to play.
Last year the Texans were "being realistic" when they thought they should easily defeat the Chargers but didn't. Who saw the emergence of Antonio Gates and Drew Brees? I bet some of the Charger fans did! But certainly not the ones who were being "realistic" and pessimistic.
The Texans are not a notch below the Bills. If they beat the Texans then we can talk about notches. Until then, Texans "fans" can replace the "realistic" pessimism with "realistic" optimism.
The margin of victory in the NFL is very small. Although you can get a pretty good read on a team based on past performance and through analysis of their current roster, you have to be a soothsayer to accurately determine who will win a game or season. After all, once you factor in emotions, health, atmosphere, weather, etc, etc., some funny things can happen in football.
Besides that, if I looked at The Mighty Buffaloes record last year which assumedly places the Texans as great underdogs this year, I am thoroughly unimpressed.
Last year:
Buffalo was swept by the Patriots handily.
They split with the Jets.
Lost to the Raiders (Texans' beat the Raiders) Lost to Jacksonville(oh, that is right the Texans swept the Jags), and lost to both the Ravens and Steelers.
Who did they beat? Cardinals, Miami twice (Impressed!), San Fran(WOW!), Cleveland(Powerhouse), Cincy, St. Louis and Seattle. Impressive!
That said, what is in the past is in the past. My belief is that the Texans will be greatly improved with added experience for the first year players along with the maturation of Carr. I also believe that Capers will have the team mentally ready to play.
Last year the Texans were "being realistic" when they thought they should easily defeat the Chargers but didn't. Who saw the emergence of Antonio Gates and Drew Brees? I bet some of the Charger fans did! But certainly not the ones who were being "realistic" and pessimistic.
The Texans are not a notch below the Bills. If they beat the Texans then we can talk about notches. Until then, Texans "fans" can replace the "realistic" pessimism with "realistic" optimism.
TexansTrueFan
All Pro
Fiddy said:
fiddy arent ya the one who told me there was "no way Davis would rush for 100 yards against jacksonville" when i was saying he would. So i bet ya now that McGahee doesnt get over 75 yards on us.
And people since it is a local paper i suspect they would be taking buffalos side, the same as the houston chronicle does for us !
TKO's Comin' for ya!
Practice Squad
Ralph Wilson Stadium is going to be rockin on opening day! You guys have no idea how pumped up that defense is going to be... I wouldn't be surprised if you don't even make it off your half of the field!!!
Okay enough of the obligitory trash talk... obviously I'm going to come on here and say I think the Bills are going to win. We all know that. But what I like to see is that some of your own fans even feel that way. And they should! We have one of the best defenses in the league, the best young running back in the league (1100 yards in 11 starts last year) who wasn't even 100 percent healthy last year, and the most play-makers on special teams (5 TD's from our ST's last year).
And for those that say we are worse this year because our new QB... that is laughable. Bledsoe only really won us 1 game last year. He played well against Miami (yeah, Miami), but other than that he played not to lose. Something a young QB could do as well. The advantage is now we have a mobile QB who can make plays when the pocket breaks down. Also, Mularkey is notorious for drawing up creative plays for the offense, and was severely limited in his playcalling by Drew last year. Having a QB that can actually rollout and move the pocket will open up a whole new dimension in our offense.
Looking forward to the season Texan fans...
My prediction: Buffalo 17, Texans 6
Okay enough of the obligitory trash talk... obviously I'm going to come on here and say I think the Bills are going to win. We all know that. But what I like to see is that some of your own fans even feel that way. And they should! We have one of the best defenses in the league, the best young running back in the league (1100 yards in 11 starts last year) who wasn't even 100 percent healthy last year, and the most play-makers on special teams (5 TD's from our ST's last year).
And for those that say we are worse this year because our new QB... that is laughable. Bledsoe only really won us 1 game last year. He played well against Miami (yeah, Miami), but other than that he played not to lose. Something a young QB could do as well. The advantage is now we have a mobile QB who can make plays when the pocket breaks down. Also, Mularkey is notorious for drawing up creative plays for the offense, and was severely limited in his playcalling by Drew last year. Having a QB that can actually rollout and move the pocket will open up a whole new dimension in our offense.
Looking forward to the season Texan fans...
My prediction: Buffalo 17, Texans 6
ColdSteelBlue
Waterboy
TKO's Comin' for ya! said:
It's good that Loseman can move, since Babin and Peek will be after his *** all day. Y'all have a good D but, not having Williams will hurt. The Buffalo ends will not get as good of pressure on QBs and DD will have room up the gut. Also none of your coeners are good enough to stick with AJ.
My prediction, a close game: Texans- 17 , Bills 14 in OT
Str8tupg42k1 said:
You better hope they don't pick up where they "left off" last year...that would be the Cleveland game where they looked like SB contenders against the Texans leading to an embarrassing loss by the Texans. If I remember right that was the one game almost everybody agreed the Texans would win and instead they laid a big fat egg.
TKO's Comin' for ya!
Practice Squad
ColdSteelBlue said:
Your right that the loss of Williams will hurt us a little bit... but you are completely wrong about our corners! We had the 3rd best passing defense in the league last year and haven't lost anybody in our secondary. If anything we are going to be better this year than we were last year. Both Milloy and Vincent were injured for most of the first part of the season last year. And Vincent was great last year in his switch to Free Safety. With a year to actually learn the position, he could be dominent.
N
NOTAHOMER
Guest
I am a Bills fan, and I give the Texans a very good chance againt us on opening day for several reasons.
1)We lose our big DT Pat Williams to the Vikings in free agency. Pat Williams was arguably the better run stuffer on our defensive line, and his prescence in the run game will most likely be missed.
2)We have also lost our starting LT to the 49ers in free agency. Jonnas Jennings was probably the best lineman on our offensive line last year, and it is still up in the air on who will replace him.(Henry for LJ Shelton trade is still being negotiated)
3)Like many have mentioned, we have essentially a rookie quaterback starting for us on opening day. No one knows how Losman will play in his first game as a starter, but if he is like most first year starters he may have a tough time throwing downfield, and the Texans could win the turnover battle because of this.
It should make for a good game, as I expect the Texans to be a much improved team.
1)We lose our big DT Pat Williams to the Vikings in free agency. Pat Williams was arguably the better run stuffer on our defensive line, and his prescence in the run game will most likely be missed.
2)We have also lost our starting LT to the 49ers in free agency. Jonnas Jennings was probably the best lineman on our offensive line last year, and it is still up in the air on who will replace him.(Henry for LJ Shelton trade is still being negotiated)
3)Like many have mentioned, we have essentially a rookie quaterback starting for us on opening day. No one knows how Losman will play in his first game as a starter, but if he is like most first year starters he may have a tough time throwing downfield, and the Texans could win the turnover battle because of this.
It should make for a good game, as I expect the Texans to be a much improved team.
BILLS 4 LIFE
Practice Squad
Texansbacker said:
the pats are the SB champs, with deadslow at the helm there was a reason we were swept "handily" ( 31-17 week 3, lost on a bledsoe fumble)
we pointed out that we beat weak teams, we did, i'm not disagreeing with you, but look at the games earlier in the season. the nail biters that we came up short on, we could've been at least 11-5 if clements knocks down the ball vs. the jags, if the refs didnt blow a call (which the NFL admitted they did) in Oakland which cost us a TD or the 3 redzone picks bledsoe threw against teh ravens
D-ReK
RAWWWRR!
This is what Bills fans think about what Texans fans think about the Bills...I don't really like getting into lame trash talk arguments before the draft, so I'll simply say it should be a close game...Good luck to the Bills (even if the game is 5 months away)...
jr0ck
Waterboy
from this thread
the bills were 8th in league in scoring defense, not 2nd...get to know your own team before throwing around 'moron' on this board. calm down man, and remember the texans are not push overs and have the real possibilty of bringing you to tears after the first game of this season.
Wolf
100% Texan
D-ReK said:
this is the funniest thing from that website.
I don't know what the probably would be.. not being biased..(or maybe I am)... if we gave AJ a complimentary reciever that wasn't either hit or miss(sorry to diss on bradford).. but ..a WR that was consistant and took the double team off of AJ ..I'd have to say Randy Moss numbers for AJ...because he is a physical..go gettem WR without the attitude (off the field).
maybe I am biased and he'd knock Moulds to number 2 and Reed to number3
