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If we actually play more press this year then he will be set up to succeed. If we keep playing off then he's going to struggle.Excellent press/man coverage corner! Should be an immediate starter...
As long as tackling isn’t amongst those areas, I approve this message.From what I've read he has the size, speed and athleticism but needs to be coached in some areas. Definitely a high upside pick
It is not. He needs work in man to man coverageAs long as tackling isn’t amongst those areas, I approve this message.
Screw English Lit. What I want playing CB for my team is a guy studying for an engineering degree with a double major in math.I like his film. But couldn't academically qualify to save his life. As long as there are no English Lit exams in preseason I think he'll start.
Still don't have anyone to cover TY or their new speedster they draftedCeiling is sky high for this one. Gaine went for the ceiling first two picks and got the solid steady guy with 55.
Lonnie will add a new element to the secondary. We've got a CB for the bigger physical WRs on the schedule.
I think that's what this guy is forStill don't have anyone to cover TY or their new speedster they drafted
In theory Roby on a good day is competent for that type of WR. His problem is he's inconsistent. Maybe that "prove it" deal will wake him up when the Colts are on the schedule....Still don't have anyone to cover TY or their new speedster they drafted
Lonnie is a big physical long CB. He'll get Funchess on the Colts, Corey Davis on the Titans.I think that's what this guy is for
I hope so. I hate how soft we play on the backendKinda feeling with free agents and this draft we may be more man up coverage with maybe safety help on speedster. Less zone ?
Thoughts?
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We played a lot of zone b/c we didn’t have the speed in the secondary. The addition of Roby changes that. Lonnie Johnson matches up with the big body WR’s. Gipson matches up with the stretch TE’s.Still don't have anyone to cover TY or their new speedster they drafted
I had never heard of him. Only watched 1st round. Who was still available whom you liked better?Well how does everyone feel about this pick? I have no clue who he is...
Outside of the 1st round selection I haven’t the slightest clue. I don’t get too worked up about the draft like some in here do. O just wait to see who they pick and watch what I can afterwards to see if I like them or not.I had never heard of him. Only watched 1st round. Who was still available whom you liked better?
Me too.Gotta admit I was hoping for DK even tho its not a big need. This guy looks like a good player.
He is straight line fast.We don't get killed with size. We get killed with speed. Not a fan.
Like it or not that’s why Roby was brought in on his one year prove it deal. Roby is our “speed” stopper.We don't get killed with size. We get killed with speed. Not a fan.
At best you mean acceptable straight line speed...and calling it straight line speed is another knock.He is straight line fast.
And why have only one?Like it or not that’s why Roby was brought in on his one year prove it deal. Roby is our “speed” stopper.
What speed CB were you wanting?At best you mean acceptable straight line speed...and calling it straight line speed is another knock.
And why have only one?
Plus a lot of the speedsters have better hops negating much if not all of any height advantage.
Unfortunately 7 CBs were already gone. Probably should have used the first round pick on oneAt best you mean acceptable straight line speed...and calling it straight line speed is another knock.
And why have only one?
Plus a lot of the speedsters have better hops negating much if not all of any height advantage.
Most teams have 1 and 1 to match a typical X and Z. Old football methods die hard. The tall physical corner (Talib/Ramsey) for the X paired with a faster, shiftier CB2 to match up on the Z (Harris/Fuller).At best you mean acceptable straight line speed...and calling it straight line speed is another knock.
And why have only one?
Plus a lot of the speedsters have better hops negating much if not all of any height advantage.
My main worry with Johnson is he rarely made plays on the ball. Not a turnover causing ball hawk.Johnson generated major scouting attention at the Combine with top-six SPARQ results among cornerbacks invited, including 4.52 speed with explosive vertical (38") and broad (10’9") jumps. Johnson is a traits-based project with a high ceiling based on his size-athleticism combo but a low floor with sub-par ball skills and no history of dominant play.
https://www.rotoworld.com/college-football/nfl-draft/player/49851/lonnie-johnson
Yeah but we have better uhhh, more te's.We don't get killed with size. We get killed with speed. Not a fan.
I don't think your quantification is accurate. Many teams play sides not WRs. Or they play best on best regardless of size. And you rarely see the slot CB move outside if the slot WR moves out.Most teams have 1 and 1 to match a typical X and Z. Old football methods die hard. The tall physical corner (Talib/Ramsey) for the X paired with a faster, shiftier CB2 to match up on the Z (Harris/Fuller).
This does nothing to correct that.The Texans have had trouble with offensive coordinators who use the Z as the WR1 (Chiefs Hill/Colts Hilton). Our corners have been too redundant for about 5 years now.
Best on best is usually, not always, but usually the physical corner vs the physical X. Most teams “best” is the most physical. I agree with you that Johnson Jr. doesn’t address the “Z” matchup. That falls on Roby as I referenced above. Joseph will still get the X unless Johnson Jr. shows out.I don't think your quantification is accurate. Many teams play sides not WRs. Or they play best on best. And you rarely see the slot CB move outside if the slot WR moves out.
This does nothing to correct that.
No they aren't. Aaron Glenn was best with the larger Marcus Coleman opposite. JJo was best with KJax opposite. Darrelle Revis was best with Antonio Cromartie opposite.Best on best is usually, not always, but usually the physical corner vs the physical X.
The discussion on 610 was he was very physical at the senior bowl man handling receivers at the LOS so seems he can play press. Story was the receivers were plain beat up after him and another CB got done with them, so I liked hearing thatI'm going to have to see how we're using Johnson before I can get excited about him. The highlight clips they showed after drafted looked like our normal db's -- too much cushion opening up the underneath passing game that seems to kill us. He does seem to close fast but I'd rather take away the underneath game w/ press coverage and get backside help and give our pass rush a little longer to get home. Looks like his length helps him breaking up passes down field and may be an upgrade to KJax in that regard and he doesn't shy away from contact in run support. Zierlein says "he could be tied to a press-and-trail scheme where some of his coverage deficiencies can be covered up" which is exactly how I hope we use him but I didn't see the press coverage on tape. Anyone have a sense if we'll use him as a press corner?
Funny how the Texans took only 1 player last draft in Akins from the Senior Bowl they were coaching but their first 3 picks this year were all Senior Bowl standouts.The discussion on 610 was he was very physical at the senior bowl man handling receivers at the LOS so seems he can play press. Story was the receivers were plain beat up after him and another CB got done with them, so I liked hearing that
I'm guessing the prospects were put in much better position to succeed this year.Funny how the Texans took only 1 player last draft in Akins from the Senior Bowl they were coaching but their first 3 picks this year were all Senior Bowl standouts.