Before I get too excited, have you (or will you) shared how we can expect this guy to fall apart physically by Year 3 yet?I love the way he catches passes away from his body!!!!!!!!!!!
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Before I get too excited, have you (or will you) shared how we can expect this guy to fall apart physically by Year 3 yet?I love the way he catches passes away from his body!!!!!!!!!!!
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Don't lose sleep worrying on him getting injured. His history is pretty clean.Before I get too excited, have you (or will you) shared how we can expect this guy to fall apart physically by Year 3 yet?
Working out on that crappy field makes me nervous.
He’s almost as quick as I am but I’ll widen the gap when I get this cast off my right leg. Actually I was thinking about the same thing while looking at those long cleats on his shoes. I was thinking what could happen if he snags on one of those weed patches. When he signs his contract his practice field might get a little better.Working out on that crappy field makes me nervous.
Why not?Fully guaranteed? Buy why?
Fully guaranteed? Buy why?
They said it’s the first 2nd round fully guaranteedI think certain rookie contracts are all guaranteed money. Depends on round drafted? I seem to remember that being discussed here at some point. Someone will correct me. 3…2…1…
Why not?
I dunno...maybe because he hasn't proven **** yet?
I dunno...maybe because he hasn't proven **** yet?
Seth Walder, NFL analyst: Texans receiver Jayden Higgins will record at least one 1,200-plus yard season in his first three years in the league. It's a bit of a gut feel pick, but the second-rounder can play at multiple spots and be a catch score All-Star. He's in a good situation with the Texans.
Yeah it’s more a sign of good faith towards the players than anything. The percentages and actual $s are so close.How much do you think is the difference between last years pick at 2.34 and Higgins deal? Keon Coleman got $9.6 million guaranteed last year. Higgins gets $1.4 million more. No reason to get triggered. Cal can afford it.
This was a quote from LZ's write up on Higgins.I heard James Palmer on Texans All Access compare Jayden Higgins to Drake London. LZ seems to agree judging by his draft profile writeup:
London:
Higgins:
Zierlein never elaborated on why Higgins would have a limited route tree. Jayden's route limitations aren't apparent to me.Will need to operate with a limited route tree.
One of the 30 unsigned 2nd rounders is Aireontae Ersery, selected at 2.48. I don't believe Caserio's intention was to shot the team in the foot over Ersery's contract negotiation. As @KoolAid Sipper and I have shown, the difference in guaranteed $$$ between the previous year's #34 pick and Higgins was around 8%. 2024 pick 2.48, Maason Smith of the Jags, received $5.7 million guaranteed of his $8 million deal. That's 71% of the deal.
I think the “limited” route tree comp to start out is more deep routes. He is kind of stiff uncovering on short/intermediate routes compared to a guy like Egbuka year 1 which is what I mentioned predraft and why I had Egbuka over him as my WR1. Higgins has as high a ceiling as any WR in this draft, but like Nico it will take time to unlock.This was a quote from LZ's write up on Higgins.
Zierlein never elaborated on why Higgins would have a limited route tree. Jayden's route limitations aren't apparent to me.
One of the 30 unsigned 2nd rounders is Aireontae Ersery, selected at 2.48. I don't believe Caserio's intention was to shot the team in the foot over Ersery's contract negotiation. As @KoolAid Sipper and I have shown, the difference in guaranteed $$$ between the previous year's #34 pick and Higgins was around 8%. 2024 pick 2.48, Maason Smith of the Jags, received $5.7 million guaranteed of his $8 million deal. That's 71% of the deal.
Caserio could give Ersery the extra 8% that Higgins received in guaranteed $$$, and push his deal towards 80% guaranteed. That would still be a far distance from 100% guaranteed. People need to look at Higgins deal as a nice increase in guaranteed money percentage. Not an across the board paradigm shift in rookie deals.
Rookies drafted in the 1st round have 4 years guaranteed, per the CBA, If the team picks up the 5th year option, that year of the contract is also guaranteed.Dont fully guarantee rookie contracts. Especially outside the first round but heck i dont like ANY fully guaranteed contracts. Period. Too many things can go wrong. You are paying for expected future performance. And for a rookie, its totally on spec. What an epically dumb move by tricky
YEAR | 4+ Years | 3+ Years | 2+ Years | 1+ Years |
2015 | 40.6% | 81.3% | 93.8% | 100.0% |
2016 | 37.5% | 71.9% | 93.8% | 100.0% |
2017 | 65.6% | 81.3% | 93.8% | 100.0% |
2018 | 68.8% | 78.1% | 93.8% | 100.0% |
2019 | 59.4% | 93.8% | 100.0% | 100.0% |
2020 | 68.8% | 87.5% | 100.0% | 100.0% |
2021 | 78.1% | 90.6% | 100.0% | 100.0% |
2022 | 78.1% | 90.6% | 100.0% | 100.0% |
Good luck negotiating with players in the modern era with that mindset. The market has changed and teams are adapting. Unless you’re the Bengals and are ok with players holding out, the players have more leverage than they used to.Good job Lucky. Thanks for taking the time to explain it and put some numbers to it.
I’m still not a fan of guaranteeing anything other than injury for guys who haven’t proven anything, but I’m a fossil. I come from the era where you proved your worth, and then earned more.
Like Nico health will be the key. I expect Higgins to be a difference maker as a rookie if he can remain healthy. The talent is there.I think the “limited” route tree comp to start out is more deep routes. He is kind of stiff uncovering on short/intermediate routes compared to a guy like Egbuka year 1 which is what I mentioned predraft and why I had Egbuka over him as my WR1. Higgins has as high a ceiling as any WR in this draft, but like Nico it will take time to unlock.
They can get plenty of production out of him as a deep shot specialist and big body redzone threat until it all clicks for him. And judging by reports from minicamp and OTAs it may be already happening ahead of schedule.
Rookie deals are different than the second contracts. Good productivity gets the new big bucks, often with only the past season being great.. see Nico. Negotiate early and agents like you.Good luck negotiating with players in the modern era with that mindset. The market has changed and teams are adapting. Unless you’re the Bengals and are ok with players holding out, the players have more leverage than they used to.