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Corrosion

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"The person could be a suspected shoplifter or a troublemaker, or he can be banned for any reason, as long as it is not based on bias against a federally protected class of people."
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I doubt Jack falls into any of the "federally protected class of people", all things considered.

That said, this is obviously just a publicity stunt. I doubt Jack cares or has even heard of the place. But, free press for the restaurant, so he's got that in these troubled times.
Federally protected class of people.

So much is wrong with that.
 

Double Barrel

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For some reason(s), this study made me think of Jack Easterby:

You actually can BS a BSer! People who often fool others most likely to get duped themselves

People who frequently exaggerate and distort the truth — or peddle in “BS” — often think they won’t fall for the same stunt from someone else. According to a new study, it turns out these “BSers” aren’t so savvy after all. In fact, Canadian researchers say a “BS artist” is actually the most likely person to be fooled by misleading information.

Full study
:hmmm:
 

Lucky

Not like this. Not like this.
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pirbroke

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Well after the last 24 hours, I’m looking at Easterby in a whole different light now.
Some people just can’t be helped, but I bet he tried. If all this past conflicts were about what we the public learned recently, then why the heck wasn’t Deshaun traded.
 

welsh texan

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At least in perception from non-Texans fans that I have talked with, its all villains and incompetents save the new GM and coach.
Which, really, is as it should be. Problem is there are too many Madden aficionados on here who have, for whatever reason, already decided that anything the Texans do in this lost year is definitely the wrong decision, so can’t back either Caserio or Culley as doing the right thing, even if that is Caserio clearing the decks ready for a rebuild or Culley identifying low $ signings who sorta fit his scheme. The talent will have to come later once this **** show of a cap situation is figured out.

Oh, and all the while the franchise QB is headed for the nonce wing so any naysayers are likely to get their I told you so award as soon as the team sets foot on field.
 

Mr teX

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People always ask the question about what exactly does Easterby do & he has had MANY people from everywhere come out in support of him saying that he’s “very good at what he does”....well in light of all this mess coming out against DW4 & the ongoing shake up that has been happening since last year, I think we now know what it is that he does well...& that’s unearth and deal with things and people within organizations that aren’t conducive to establishing a winning culture. People tend to not like nosey folks....People who get in other people’s business...Especially those who don’t have skeletons to hide..So I can see people like Palcic and Rootes being upset they were fired and wanting to leave b/c they “don’t like the direction” for that very reason. I can also see players not liking it just either b/c they’re younger and feel like it’s out of bounds.

and for all the “Cal is an idiot/dunce” chants that have since come out b/c he wouldn’t fire this guy, and b/c of the perceived mishandling of the DW4 situation, he had enough sense....& balls to know he had problems within that FO that needed to be addressed. I also have no doubt that he probably knew that he would probably lose some good people in the process too. Which is why he asked Rootes to stay on until the GM search and hire was complete. So maybe he hasn’t been as clueless as most everyone and the media portrayed him to be. He’s 1 of the few people who has source info.

I’ve always thought that the vitriol thrown at Easterby was a little overboard and unwarranted. I always maintained that He was ALWAYS doing what Cal asked him to do. Little did any of us know how much other crap that dude probably stumbled on.
 
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People always ask the question about what exactly does Easterby do & he has had MANY people from everywhere come out in support of him saying that he’s “very good at what he does”....well in light of all this mess coming out against DW4 & the ongoing shake up that has been happening since last year, I think we now know what it is that he does well...& that’s unearth and deal with things and people within organizations that aren’t conducive to establishing a winning culture. People tend to not like nosey folks....People who get in other people’s business...Especially those who don’t have skeletons to hide..So I can see people like Palcic and Rootes being upset they were fired and wanting to leave b/c they “don’t like the direction” for that very reason. I can also see players not liking it just either b/c they’re younger and feel like it’s out of bounds.

and for all the “Cal is an idiot/dunce” chants that have since come out b/c he wouldn’t fire this guy, and b/c of the perceived mishandling of the DW4 situation, he had enough sense....& balls to know he had problems within that FO that needed to be addressed. I also have no doubt that he probably knew that he would probably lose some good people in the process too. Which is why he asked Rootes to stay on until the GM search and hire was complete. So maybe he hasn’t been as clueless as most everyone and the media portrayed him to be. He’s 1 of the few people who has source info.

I’ve always thought that the vitriol thrown at Easterby was a little overboard and unwarranted. I always maintained that He was ALWAYS doing what Cal asked him to do. Little did any of us know how much other crap that dude probably stumbled on.

I've come to a similar conclusion .... one that I can live with. Someone, maybe one or two of the guys he had on his first "BrainTank" team, pulled him aside, and told him the wisest thing to do was to blow this whole thing up and start over. Cal says, "Man, I don't have the stomach for that ... 90% of these guys are like brothers ... I just couldn't do it" ! First guy says, " That's the beauty of it .... You've got a guy on your staff that looks and acts like a Priest, but hand him the job, and he'll work like a Demon .... just don't shake hands with him" !
 

welsh texan

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I've come to a similar conclusion .... one that I can live with. Someone, maybe one or two of the guys he had on his first "BrainTank" team, pulled him aside, and told him the wisest thing to do was to blow this whole thing up and start over. Cal says, "Man, I don't have the stomach for that ... 90% of these guys are like brothers ... I just couldn't do it" ! First guy says, " That's the beauty of it .... You've got a guy on your staff that looks and acts like a Priest, but hand him the job, and he'll work like a Demon .... just don't shake hands with him" !
Bet there were some comfy seats at all levels of that organisation. 20 years in with the owning family inviting employees to be godfather to their children etc, the business itself is a guaranteed success regardless of performance.

I can see where Easterby may have been required. If these guys have been leaking and working against the team, despite on the face of it looking like they are doing a good job, (no cap issues under Olsen and the most successful teams in our history, Palcic great ties in the media and with players, Rootes the self proclaimed mastermind behind 20 years of sell outs regardless of performance).

I suppose the problem with the Easterby timeline is that he was here long enough that he should have stopped the OBrien/Watson problems before they were escalated last off-season. The horse has bolted and he now seems to be locking the barn doors.
 

steelbtexan

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People are beginning to see the light, although some are still living in denial.

With all of the DW4 stuff that will be coming out soon this will become very entertaining soon.
 

Mr teX

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Bet there were some comfy seats at all levels of that organisation. 20 years in with the owning family inviting employees to be godfather to their children etc, the business itself is a guaranteed success regardless of performance.

I can see where Easterby may have been required. If these guys have been leaking and working against the team, despite on the face of it looking like they are doing a good job, (no cap issues under Olsen and the most successful teams in our history, Palcic great ties in the media and with players, Rootes the self proclaimed mastermind behind 20 years of sell outs regardless of performance).

I suppose the problem with the Easterby timeline is that he was here long enough that he should have stopped the OBrien/Watson problems before they were escalated last off-season. The horse has bolted and he now seems to be locking the barn doors.
People tend to think that organizations are shaped and developed only by the people most prominently seen..the 1 innovator or super talent. That's true to a point. Alot of times though, there are tons of people behind the scenes that are in some cases large contributors as well.

For example, everyone knows who Steve Jobs is/was. But few if any can name the company behind Apple's "think different" & "crazy ones" ad campaign that launched back in the late 90's...which was a few years before the Ipod and Iphone launched and before Steve Jobs became a household name. That ad campaign COMBINED with the product and Steve Jobs wound up playing a HUGE part in changing nearly EVERYONE's mind about what Apple was and how they were percieved....which was a defunct fledgling computer company to industry leader and innovator almost overnight.

I say all that to say that Easterby might not ever get from under that SI article & being named as a co-conspirator in 1 of the most lopsided trades in NFL history, but if all this shake up in the FO & team leads to this organization reaching unprecedented heights within the next 3-4 years, you will have to give him credit on some level for being part of unearthing some toxic stuff that might have still been in place had he not ran it off, unearthed it or been part of the decision making process to get rid of it.
 

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Some of y'all just have low standards. :cool:

31 other NFL franchises would never appoint Jack Easterby to anything other than camp counselor. If this dude is really "needed" to clean up the "culture", then the owners have completely failed and absolutely lost control of their organization. They suck at their job of owning an NFL franchise.

Go back and watching ANYTHING that Easterby has said in public. He's a freakin' joke. If he's the future of the Houston Texans, then this organization is a lost cause.
 

steelbtexan

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Some of y'all just have low standards. :cool:

31 other NFL franchises would never appoint Jack Easterby to anything other than camp counselor. If this dude is really "needed" to clean up the "culture", then the owners have completely failed and absolutely lost control of their organization. They suck at their job of owning an NFL franchise.

Go back and watching ANYTHING that Easterby has said in public. He's a freakin' joke. If he's the future of the Houston Texans, then this organization is a lost cause.
Now, we're getting down to the heart of the matter. Ownership sucks when they have to hire guys like Easterby to cleanup ownerships messes.

Easterby was hired to find out what was really going on in the Texans org. Caserio was hired to clean up the mess.
 

Mr teX

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Some of y'all just have low standards. :cool:

31 other NFL franchises would never appoint Jack Easterby to anything other than camp counselor. If this dude is really "needed" to clean up the "culture", then the owners have completely failed and absolutely lost control of their organization. They suck at their job of owning an NFL franchise.

Go back and watching ANYTHING that Easterby has said in public. He's a freakin' joke. If he's the future of the Houston Texans, then this organization is a lost cause.
You’re too hung up on the title bro and what you believe based on your limited view of things & the man himself that you’re ignoring the gray areas. Fact is he’s been able to find work within 3 of these 31 organizations in various roles, 1 of which has been the most successful franchise in the nfl over the last 20 years......and a lot of folks respect this dude for what he does...and folks who know him STILL continue to praise him even after all the SI crap. Here’s Marcus Cannon just this week when asked about Easterby:

“Jack kind of ran some operation things and he was our chaplain with the Patriots and my relationship with him was great, He was big on helping people become and be the man that they’re supposed to be. My relationship with him was pretty good and the same with Nick."

“Ran some operations things”...sounds to me even Cannon knows he was more and did more in NE than what his official title of “character coach” might indicate......kinda like Caserio actually. A guy that everyone knew was the defacto GM and who did just about everything in that role while not actually carrying the title. But you’re so caught up in something you might’ve seen him say in a YouTube clip that came off awkward and hokey to where it won’t allow you to believe that this dude might just have something to offer beyond what’s on his resume and what he’s best known for. Whatever it is, the rush to judgement of this dude appears to have been misplaced.
 

steelbtexan

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You’re too hung up on the title bro and what you believe based on your limited view of things & the man himself that you’re ignoring the gray areas. Fact is he’s been able to find work within 3 of these 31 organizations in various roles, 1 of which has been the most successful franchise in the nfl over the last 20 years......and a lot of folks respect this dude for what he does...and folks who know him STILL continue to praise him even after all the SI crap. Here’s Marcus Cannon just this week when asked about Easterby:

“Jack kind of ran some operation things and he was our chaplain with the Patriots and my relationship with him was great, He was big on helping people become and be the man that they’re supposed to be. My relationship with him was pretty good and the same with Nick."

“Ran some operations things”...sounds to me even Cannon knows he was more and did more in NE than what his official title of “character coach” might indicate......kinda like Caserio actually. A guy that everyone knew was the defacto GM and who did just about everything in that role while not actually carrying the title. But you’re so caught up in something you might’ve seen him say in a YouTube clip that came off awkward and hokey to where it won’t allow you to believe that this dude might just have something to offer beyond what’s on his resume and what he’s best known for. Whatever it is, the rush to judgement of this dude appears to have been misplaced.
Regardless of whether DW4 was baptized in the River Jordan or not, Easterby couldn't help DW4 get closer in his relationship with god, or with his close relationships with massage therapists/sex addiction.
 

Mr teX

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Regardless of whether DW4 was baptized in the River Jordan or not, Easterby couldn't help DW4 get closer in his relationship with god, or with his close relationships with massage therapists/sex addiction.
Im just not into dismissing what someone can and can’t do b/c of what’s not on their resume. As a middle manager years ago, some of the best hires I made were folks who had no direct experience to do the job I was interviewing them for. I took a chance on them based on how they presented themselves to me. Obviously the experience they did have had to show a strong work ethic and be somewhat close or at least in the same arena, and they had to be willing to learn....but you get what I’m saying.

And at the end of the day, when you’re young, rich and famous like DW4 is, it’s easy to get caught up and not listen to folks who may have your best interest at heart...you don’t wanna hear the negative. The mentality a lot of these guys have is “I’ve got it under control” & “won’t be me”...I remember thinking like that at his age....that is until 1 day it did become me.
 

steelbtexan

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Im just not into dismissing what someone can and can’t do b/c of what’s not on their resume. As a middle manager years ago, some of the best hires I made were folks who had no direct experience to do the job I was interviewing them for. I took a chance on them based on how they presented themselves to me. Obviously the experience they did have had to show a strong work ethic and be somewhat close or at least in the same arena, and they had to be willing to learn....but you get what I’m saying.

And at the end of the day, when you’re young, rich and famous like DW4 is, it’s easy to get caught up and not listen to folks who may have your best interest at heart...you don’t wanna hear the negative. The mentality a lot of these guys have is “I’ve got it under control” & “won’t be me”...I remember thinking like that at his age....that is until 1 day it did become me.
I was like that too.

BTW, I meant that post as a joke.

There's no way to really help a sex addict. IMHO
 

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Now, we're getting down to the heart of the matter. Ownership sucks when they have to hire guys like Easterby to cleanup ownerships messes.

Easterby was hired to find out what was really going on in the Texans org. Caserio was hired to clean up the mess.
Bingo.

I don't think Easterby is a "mastermind" or "villian". He's simply a symptom of inept owners.

I'll ask one simple question to those less suspicious of Easterby: Do you honestly believe that Jack Easterby was the most qualified person in the NFL to be hired by the Texans?

If your answer is "yes", then we can agree to disagree and we really have nothing else to talk about. You'll never convince me that he was the most qualified candidate.

The simple fact is that the McNairs lost control of their franchise and have made desperation hires to clean up their tangled mess. Easterby, and to a lesser extent Culley, are merely the results of owners that are mandating "culture" change as a primary objective for the foreseeable future. This is documented, not speculative.

And for anyone curious about my perspective, just watch Jack Easterby public speaking and compare to ANY professional football coach and/or executive public speaking. It is night and day. Based on this, his fake resume, and the fact he's supposed to be a man of morality that is dishonest, I just don't believe that he's at all qualified to improve the fortunes of the Houston Texans.

I'm not hung up on anything. I'm pragmatic and do not delude myself with unwarranted optimism or some misguided belief in human beings that have revealed themselves as shysters.
 

steelbtexan

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Bingo.

I don't think Easterby is a "mastermind" or "villian". He's simply a symptom of inept owners.

I'll ask one simple question to those less suspicious of Easterby: Do you honestly believe that Jack Easterby was the most qualified person in the NFL to be hired by the Texans?

If your answer is "yes", then we can agree to disagree and we really have nothing else to talk about. You'll never convince me that he was the most qualified candidate.

The simple fact is that the McNairs lost control of their franchise and have made desperation hires to clean up their tangled mess. Easterby, and to a lesser extent Culley, are merely the results of owners that are mandating "culture" change as a primary objective for the foreseeable future. This is documented, not speculative.

And for anyone curious about my perspective, just watch Jack Easterby public speaking and compare to ANY professional football coach and/or executive public speaking. It is night and day. Based on this, his fake resume, and the fact he's supposed to be a man of morality that is dishonest, I just don't believe that he's at all qualified to improve the fortunes of the Houston Texans.

I'm not hung up on anything. I'm pragmatic and do not delude myself with unwarranted optimism or some misguided belief in human beings that have revealed themselves as shysters.
I agree with this,

Easterby was hired to help bring in Caserio. Mission accomplished.

What happened was a result of Cal thinking he could hire Caserio last offseason and when the Pats threatened to file tampering charges. Cal did what should be expected of Cal, he Cucked to Kraft.
 

Double Barrel

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‘Til Death Do They Part: The Marriage Of Jack Easterby & The Texans

Abandon Hope, All Ye Who Enter Here.

Nepotism is certainly not a thing to value in modern culture. When it’s driven by sycophancy, it’s truly ugly. I've said it before and I will say it again: If Jack Easterby sincerely cared for the McNairs and the Texans, he would resign. Yet he hasn’t, which calls everything he says he stands for into question. Allowing your owner to choose you over a once-in-a-generation franchise quarterback shows Easterby also has no clue what it takes to build a championship football team.

As fans, there’s no fighting this. There's no burying your head in the sand and hoping it goes away. There’s no amount of Kool-Aid anyone can drink to make this okay.
Stephanie Stradley

McNair through words/deeds cares more about Easterby than Watson or anyone. Who is good with that? Who wants to lose to a non-football guy? Who wants to play for and root for the guy who destroyed the team? He controls "every facet of the organization."

Blows my mind every day
The ineptness of Cal is staggering to behold. But please, continue to clap for the naked emperor. His dad did bring football back to Houston, after all. :heh:
 

Mr teX

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Bingo.

I don't think Easterby is a "mastermind" or "villian". He's simply a symptom of inept owners.

I'll ask one simple question to those less suspicious of Easterby: Do you honestly believe that Jack Easterby was the most qualified person in the NFL to be hired by the Texans?

If your answer is "yes", then we can agree to disagree and we really have nothing else to talk about. You'll never convince me that he was the most qualified candidate.

The simple fact is that the McNairs lost control of their franchise and have made desperation hires to clean up their tangled mess. Easterby, and to a lesser extent Culley, are merely the results of owners that are mandating "culture" change as a primary objective for the foreseeable future. This is documented, not speculative.

And for anyone curious about my perspective, just watch Jack Easterby public speaking and compare to ANY professional football coach and/or executive public speaking. It is night and day. Based on this, his fake resume, and the fact he's supposed to be a man of morality that is dishonest, I just don't believe that he's at all qualified to improve the fortunes of the Houston Texans.

I'm not hung up on anything. I'm pragmatic and do not delude myself with unwarranted optimism or some misguided belief in human beings that have revealed themselves as shysters.
Lol you’re exactly hung up on that b/c I’m pretty sure you’ve never met the dude and NOTHING has been revealed about him other than some people too chicken **** to put their name on their comments about him that they don’t care for him.....but on the same token there are LOTS of people who’ve gone on record that speak highly of him. Why not focus on THAT aspect? B/c it doesn’t jive with what you’ve already convinced yourself of.

& every owner in the league is inept according to you then b/c all of them either hire guys who aren’t good at their jobs that they later wind up firing & just as an educated guess, all of them likely have people in high places that probably shouldn’t be there or got there mostly by means unrelated to their on paper qualifications. That still doesn’t mean those individuals were/are incapable of growing into and/or learning the gig tho.

I mean if only the “most qualified” people were ever hired and put in places, a lot of people who went on to do great things would never have seen the light of day.....or in some cases wouldn’t have gotten 2nd chances to achieve what they wound up doing. much like evaluating talent, there’s more to it than just that 1 aspect. & That goes from the lowly jobs all the way up to the highest office in the land. I know the concept of “only the most qualified” Sounds nice in theory but the real world doesn’t work like that & never has. Easterby wasn’t the 1st and certainly won’t be the last person to ascend to a position that he wasn’t exactly qualified for at the outset....or someone was more qualified than him. To continue to harp on that aspect of all this is just silly.
 

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lol. :heh: I respect ya', Mr teX, but your white knighting on behalf of Jack Easterby doesn't move the needle. I'm not taking that bait. Dude is not worth it. You will see.

Easterby is merely a symptom if ineptness at the top. It does not get much simpler than that. And we're stuck with Hal for the time being.
 

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As has been said before, the Texans front office/ownership has been a detriment to true success for a long time. I don’t think Easterby puts them in a new category.

I mean makingB’Ob GM & HC after 51-7 is going to be hard to beat. Making Easterby interim GM is close, but not another category type thing.

I heard a story, don’t know how true it is, about a guy who dropped out of school to start his own software company. Dude had no experience whatsoever. Now he’s one of the richest people in the world.
 

Double Barrel

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A major sports publication reporting on any front office staff, much less the Texans front office, does slightly put them in a new category. JMO. . .and the opinions of many, many others.

Easterby was full of crap about suing SI, btw. If it was defamation, it would not be hard to prove. He dropped that attitude pretty quickly and has not been heard from since.

And comparing Easterby to a self-made millionaire? Seriously? Did this 'richest man on the world' lie on his resume, too? I think I've had enough internet for the day. lol :spit:
 

Mr teX

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A major sports publication reporting on any front office staff, much less the Texans front office, does slightly put them in a new category. JMO. . .and the opinions of many, many others.

Easterby was full of crap about suing SI, btw. If it was defamation, it would not be hard to prove. He dropped that attitude pretty quickly and has not been heard from since.

And comparing Easterby to a self-made millionaire? Seriously? Did this 'richest man on the world' lie on his resume, too? I think I've had enough internet for the day. lol :spit:
It’s honestly not even about Easterby or “white knighting” him so much as it is about folks putting this guy on a pedestal as some evil mastermind finagling his way to the top. Like you, My stance just hasn’t changed. I said it before the SI article and I’m saying it now in the face of the DW4 situation, he’s only been doing what Cal has asked him to do.....which given the current state of this franchise, was apparently something that needed to be done. But all told they were a train wreck long before he got here and Cal took over and they’re a train wreck with him now. The only difference now is that there’s actually a chance for this team to possibly turn the corner and do it at least somewhat differently than they’d been trying and failing to before if only because there are a few different faces than have been there the last 20 years.

At the end of the day for me tho, I didn’t care about him, or the person in his position before him .... so why should I care now?
 

thunderkyss

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A major sports publication reporting on any front office staff, much less the Texans front office, does slightly put them in a new category. JMO. . .and the opinions of many, many others.
Ever watch wag the dog?


Easterby was full of crap about suing SI, btw. If it was defamation, it would not be hard to prove. He dropped that attitude pretty quickly and has not been heard from since.
Or that story wasn’t as truthful as they’d like you to believe... who knows?

And comparing Easterby to a self-made millionaire? Seriously? Did this 'richest man on the world' lie on his resume, too?
Well I hear this particular richest man in the world shouldn’t be trusted. Secondly I’m not entirely convinced it was Easterby who lied. I thought the Texans were trying to make him look better than he was.

John Elway was named executive VP of football operations. No prior experience. John Lynch & Mike Mayock were named GMs... never spent one minute in personnel.

Yeah, they’ve got this, or they’ve got that, whatever. Fact is they were never in personnel.
 

Speedy

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Or that story wasn’t as truthful as they’d like you to believe... who knows?



Well I hear this particular richest man in the world shouldn’t be trusted. Secondly I’m not entirely convinced it was Easterby who lied. I thought the Texans were trying to make him look better than he was.

John Elway was named executive VP of football operations. No prior experience. John Lynch & Mike Mayock were named GMs... never spent one minute in personnel.

Yeah, they’ve got this, or they’ve got that, whatever. Fact is they were never in personnel.
At least those guys have a football background. They were personnel. The Pastor, not so much. Apples to oranges comparison.
 

Mr teX

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At least those guys have a football background. They were personnel. The Pastor, not so much. Apples to oranges comparison.
Well golly gee, I guess Easterby can be considered a football guy after all considering he was recognized as a “coach” for many years prior to coming to the Texans right? Or does that not count either?

You guys can’t have it both ways.
 

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Eastershit needs to go. The Texans can still manage being a bottom feeder quite well without his help.
What I don't understand is why the Texans had to go all the way to New England to find their savior when we have one just like him - with better hair - right here in Houston. . .

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