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Week 5 around the NFL

If you've ever been given smelling salts............you know it could wake the dead.​

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From my FDA files:​


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What do smelling salts do, and are they dangerous?​


Today, some professional athletes believe smelling salts can improve performance. They can help if a person passes out.

However, there are some concerns about using them for athletic performance.

Smelling salts are inhaled stimulants that increase breathing and blood flow to the brain. Despite their history of use, there is
limited research into the effects of smelling salts.

What are smelling salts?​


Smelling salts are typically a combination of diluted ammonia, water, and ethanol. They may also be a mixture of ammonium carbonate and perfume. Both solutions offer a physical stimulant.

The stimulant effect of smelling salts is due to the ammonia, which irritates a person’s nasal and lung membranes when they sniff it. The result is that the person involuntarily inhales and starts to breathe faster, which sends more oxygen to the brain.
Historically, doctors would use smelling salts to help revive people who have fainted. However, today, athletes looking to improve performance will sometimes use smelling salts for their stimulant effect.

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Are they bad for you?​


Smelling salts are typically safe to help someone regain consciousness after fainting. However, there is a lack of evidence regarding the safety of the repeated use of smelling salts or smelling salt use for other means.
Some concerns regarding the use of smelling salts for athletic performance include:
  • Some people may use smelling salts to counteract the impact of head trauma, such as concussions, to get back in the game sooner. This can be dangerous as concussive symptoms could be masked, resulting in delayed diagnosis. Also, rapid return to the sport with a high risk of reinjury could worsen the consequences of head injury.
  • Sometimes, when a person initially smells the salts, their head jerks back involuntarily. This may cause additional harm to a person who has a spinal injury.
  • The use of smelling salts without a doctor’s guidance may become a growing problem.
Commercial ammonia inhalation products typically contain 50–100 parts per million (ppm) ammonia.
Most people can tolerate exposure to around 250 ppm of ammonia for under 1 hour. However, even exposure to 50 ppm of ammonia for more than 2 hours can cause irritation to the eyes, nose, and throat.

Ammonia concentration and duration of exposure increases a person’s risk of adverse health outcomes. Exposure to 2,500–4,500 ppm of ammonia for 30 minutes or more can be fatal.

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Smelling salts use​


It is only legal in the United States for a person to use smelling salts to help someone regain consciousness after fainting.
However, some people may use smelling salts for other means, such as improving athletic performance and increasing alertness.

There is insufficient evidence to prove the safety or efficacy of smelling salts for any of these uses.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:

If you've ever been given smelling salts............you know it could wake the dead.​

​

From my FDA files:​


**********************************

​

What do smelling salts do, and are they dangerous?​


Today, some professional athletes believe smelling salts can improve performance. They can help if a person passes out.

However, there are some concerns about using them for athletic performance.

Smelling salts are inhaled stimulants that increase breathing and blood flow to the brain. Despite their history of use, there is
limited research into the effects of smelling salts.

What are smelling salts?​


Smelling salts are typically a combination of diluted ammonia, water, and ethanol. They may also be a mixture of ammonium carbonate and perfume. Both solutions offer a physical stimulant.

The stimulant effect of smelling salts is due to the ammonia, which irritates a person’s nasal and lung membranes when they sniff it. The result is that the person involuntarily inhales and starts to breathe faster, which sends more oxygen to the brain.
Historically, doctors would use smelling salts to help revive people who have fainted. However, today, athletes looking to improve performance will sometimes use smelling salts for their stimulant effect.

​

Are they bad for you?​


Smelling salts are typically safe to help someone regain consciousness after fainting. However, there is a lack of evidence regarding the safety of the repeated use of smelling salts or smelling salt use for other means.
Some concerns regarding the use of smelling salts for athletic performance include:
  • Some people may use smelling salts to counteract the impact of head trauma, such as concussions, to get back in the game sooner. This can be dangerous as concussive symptoms could be masked, resulting in delayed diagnosis. Also, rapid return to the sport with a high risk of reinjury could worsen the consequences of head injury.
  • Sometimes, when a person initially smells the salts, their head jerks back involuntarily. This may cause additional harm to a person who has a spinal injury.
  • The use of smelling salts without a doctor’s guidance may become a growing problem.
Commercial ammonia inhalation products typically contain 50–100 parts per million (ppm) ammonia.
Most people can tolerate exposure to around 250 ppm of ammonia for under 1 hour. However, even exposure to 50 ppm of ammonia for more than 2 hours can cause irritation to the eyes, nose, and throat.

Ammonia concentration and duration of exposure increases a person’s risk of adverse health outcomes. Exposure to 2,500–4,500 ppm of ammonia for 30 minutes or more can be fatal.

​

Smelling salts use​


It is only legal in the United States for a person to use smelling salts to help someone regain consciousness after fainting.
However, some people may use smelling salts for other means, such as improving athletic performance and increasing alertness.

There is insufficient evidence to prove the safety or efficacy of smelling salts for any of these uses.
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Most interesting! Curious to see how the Bills defend giving him smelling salts in the foreseeable investigation.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
@CloakNNNdagger Hard to see the full frame but a similar hit to the head Allen took last week

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During and right after the game, I posted my concerns and discussed with @djohn2oo8 and @steelbtexan the exact points that were covered much later in the video submitted below.

These events further confirmed to me that the NFL Concussion Protocol is nothing more than a joke, and that keeping star players on the field is much more important than protecting their health.

 
CloakNNNdagger said:
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During and right after the game, I posted my concerns and discussed with @djohn2oo8 and @steelbtexan the exact points that were covered much later in the video submitted below.

These events further confirmed to me that the NFL Concussion Protocol is nothing more than a joke, and that keeping star players on the field is much more important than protecting their health.

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I saw it and straight away thought "He's out cold". Next thing ya know he running back out onto the field.
Be interesting to see what happens this week. For mine, Bills organization needs to be fined.
 
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Texansphan said:
I saw it and straight away thought "He's out cold". Next thing ya know he running back out onto the field.
Be interesting to see what happens this week. For mine, Bills organization needs to be fined.
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It's the NFL and its spotters, refs, team physicians and "independent" neurologist that all share the responsibility. I doubt that the NFL calls itself out.
 
The NFL is supposed to use a complete SCAT (Standardized Concussion Assessment Tool), concussion test for in-game testing. To perform this test properly, it takes 10-15 minutes.

When you don't want to find something, you don't really look for it..................

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Josh Allen missed five total scrimmage plays, two-and-a-half-minutes of game time, for concussion evaluation
By Mike Florio
Published October 6, 2024 10:44 PM

In Houston on Sunday, Bills quarterback Josh Allen hit the ground hard in the fourth quarter, striking his head on the turf.

After the game, Allen told reporters he rolled his ankle and that, while being evaluated in the medical tent, he was informed
that he also needed to be evaluated for a concussion.

He was. And he was cleared to return.

He missed a punt, four offensive plays by the Texans, and one offensive play by the Bills.

The injury happened with 6:06 remaining in the fourth quarter. Allen returned with 3:36 to play. That’s two and a half minutes of game time missed. And, as we measured on the CBS broadcast, he missed six minutes and six seconds of actual time from the moment his head struck the ground to the moment he returned to the field.

It’s unclear when the concussion evaluation was initiated, if Allen’s version of the chain of events is accurate. The NFL nevertheless activated the evaluation process and cleared him.

The NFL’s doctors, both team-employed and unaffiliated, make the decision. The protocol has been developed and honed in the 15 years (to the month) since Congress called NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and former NFL Players Association executive director DeMaurice Smith to Capitol Hill for testimony on their collective handling (and/or mishandling) of brain trauma.

Whether it takes two-and-half minutes of game time (or six minutes and six seconds of real time) to clear a player is irrelevant. Whether it takes one total play or five total plays or fifty total plays is irrelevant. The process, as developed and utilized by the NFL, controls the process of clearing players to return to play.

On Sunday for Allen, it took two-and-a-half minutes of game time, six minutes and six seconds of real time, a punt, four defensive plays, and one offensive play to be cleared to return.
 
Anybody think the Saints have a shot at winning? They started the season strong but seems to have petered out the last two games.


Chiefs are 5.5 favorites.
 
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