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We arent out of it yet...
- Thread starter EllisUnit
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The bad news is there is one team in the AFC with a worse record than the Texans. The good news is there are three teams in the NFC with worse records.
The Texans have the fifth worst record in the league. Call me a sky-is-falling type, but I think this 2-5 team is not playing well and in major disarray and trouble.
The homers will be able to make posts of increasingly outlandish scenarios for a few more weeks to "prove" that the Texans will make the playoffs, and then the team will be mathematically eliminated. I just don't see how a serious football analysis of the first seven games of the season can lead to a reasonable conclusion that the team will close out with an 7-2 or 8-1 run to finish with nine or ten wins and make the playoffs.
The Texans have the fifth worst record in the league. Call me a sky-is-falling type, but I think this 2-5 team is not playing well and in major disarray and trouble.
The homers will be able to make posts of increasingly outlandish scenarios for a few more weeks to "prove" that the Texans will make the playoffs, and then the team will be mathematically eliminated. I just don't see how a serious football analysis of the first seven games of the season can lead to a reasonable conclusion that the team will close out with an 7-2 or 8-1 run to finish with nine or ten wins and make the playoffs.
MEGA SWATT
All Pro
That's like a person who jumps off a 50 story building thinking around the 25th floor : "at least I' m not dead yet".
Even if we win out and make the playoffs - we can't possibly win the super bowl
Even if we win out and make the playoffs - we can't possibly win the super bowl
So far, so good.
fiasco west
All Pro
Meh, I see no reason to attack anyone for believing if not for one more week until the team is officially out of it. What's so wrong with that?
Just answering the original poster's thought that people who don't think this is a playoff team are "sky is falling people":
Right now they are looking more like realists.
fiasco west
All Pro
Oh yeah definitely. I think the hope ends tonight even for the most optimistic of guys if the Colts can hold out and win this game...there would still be a SLIM chance. It would mean basically that Luck gets hurt or if Keenum is insanely good.
They can really only lose one game from here on out...and they play the Colts twice, the Pats, and the Broncos.
8-8 is what I'm predicting, which isn't good enough for a wildcard in the AFC this year.
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
There is a chance for a run. Schedule gets a little weaker after the Colts. Hardest games will be the Broncos and Patriots. Keenum was put in just a week too late because I think we would have beat the Rams with Keenum. The spark should have started then.
TEXANRED
Texan-American
TexansSeminole
Hall of Fame
It's over dude, wake up.
eriadoc
Texan-American
you can't start a thread sayin it aint over then declare it's over.
we could win out.
Could happen, sure. Even if they do win out, it's not enough. They need the Colts to lose more than the two they'd lose to the Texans winning out. Now you might say "Of course the Colts will lose one or two", which brings the response, "So will the Texans".
Them freak'n Colts. They aced the hard part of their schedule.
SF, Seattle, Denver........ arrgghhhh....
Bulls on Parade
2017 Astros: Earn It!
We pretty much have to run the table and win the last 9 games just to finish 11-5. That may win us the AFC South if the Colts lose one other game besides the two against us. We would own the tiebreaker.
eriadoc
Texan-American
That QB you don't think much of is pretty damn good.
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
We're not going 9-0 or 8-1 without Brian Cushing.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
Can you please tell me this Wednesdays Powerball #s, and when the world will end please.
bOODRO87
Time Consumer
How much zoloft is pumping through your veins? 2-5. We are getting killed in every phase of the game. Our coach cannot get this team together, period. What do you see that makes you think this team can right the ship? You can kiss the playoffs goodbye.
Rebuilding the team in just two years is a major factor in their turnaround.
TheIronDuke
All Pro
Ellis, I wish I had your positive outlook on things, I really do. I bet you're a good person to be around and you see the best in people. So for that, I admire you.
That said, this season is over. We will be curb-stomped by the Colts at home and our yearly plowing at their home, will probably either lose to the Raiders or Cardinals. Will probably drop one to Jacksonville, definitely lose to the Pats and Broncos and finally mercifully end our pain with a loss at Possum Holler with a 5-11 record. Hopefully then we can rid ourselves of the cancer that is Kubiak and Marciano and maybe even Rick Smith and start this re-build again.
That said, this season is over. We will be curb-stomped by the Colts at home and our yearly plowing at their home, will probably either lose to the Raiders or Cardinals. Will probably drop one to Jacksonville, definitely lose to the Pats and Broncos and finally mercifully end our pain with a loss at Possum Holler with a 5-11 record. Hopefully then we can rid ourselves of the cancer that is Kubiak and Marciano and maybe even Rick Smith and start this re-build again.
deucetx
Rookie
Eh....OP is partially correct. We're out of it division wise. Barring Luck getting injured that is simply something that is not happening for us this year.
One of the wildcards are also gone since it goes to either the Broncos or Chiefs so rule that out.
But the last wild card is a crapshoot. Right now Jets and Chargers lead the way at 4-3. Chargers we've beaten and they haven't played Denver or KC yet.
Jets still have Ravens, Saints and Bengals but the rest is kind of eh for them.
And of course there are several teams ahead of us at 3-4 but that is just a one game difference except the Ravens who now have the tiebreaker on us. So yeah we're still in it for this last wild card. Just our chances aren't very high. Cush being out means we have Sharpton and Mays which doesn't give a great positive feeling. Neither one of them can cover. I think this is the time they need to move Reed inside. Reed will be out there every play anyway now since he's the only linebacker that can cover worth a darn. The next best cover LB is probably Tuggle.
One of the wildcards are also gone since it goes to either the Broncos or Chiefs so rule that out.
But the last wild card is a crapshoot. Right now Jets and Chargers lead the way at 4-3. Chargers we've beaten and they haven't played Denver or KC yet.
Jets still have Ravens, Saints and Bengals but the rest is kind of eh for them.
And of course there are several teams ahead of us at 3-4 but that is just a one game difference except the Ravens who now have the tiebreaker on us. So yeah we're still in it for this last wild card. Just our chances aren't very high. Cush being out means we have Sharpton and Mays which doesn't give a great positive feeling. Neither one of them can cover. I think this is the time they need to move Reed inside. Reed will be out there every play anyway now since he's the only linebacker that can cover worth a darn. The next best cover LB is probably Tuggle.
chicagotexan2
Easterby = Little Finger/Cal = Fredo Corleone
Stick a fork in the post season aspirations because we are done.
PapaL
Loose Screw
It's already gone down to 1% after all of yesterday's games were completed.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
They have a team with leaders and a coaching staff that's working in the 21st century. They're going forward, we're standing still.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Gary Kubiak assures me that it is not possible to rebuild a team in less than 5 years. 8 if you want to do it right.
10. He's due an extension to complete the process.
Bulls on Parade
2017 Astros: Earn It!
We have to go 6-0 in the division to have any chance. That would include beating the Colts on the road for the first time in franchise history. But anything is still possible. There is still a lot of football left to be played. A lot can happen in the final nine games.
It sucks to be 2-5 and not playing again for two weeks. Losing Brian Cushing is tough but a lot of teams are losing good players for the season. Good teams find a way to overcome any obstacle. I thought we played our hearts out yesterday. I want to see more of that effort moving forward this season.
Hindsight is 20-20 but I wish we would have went with Case Keenum a little earlier. Like before the Seahawks game. We may have won those games against the Seahawks and Rams. But oh well, can't look in the past. Just have to focus on the rest of 2013.
I'm not a fan of Dumb & Dumber optimism (no offense to anyone grasping at the Cliff of Hope by the edges of their fingers...)
Anything is possible. But you have to set up expectations with what is probable.
And as a lifelong fan of the NFL, teams that start 2-5 with really crappy play and lose multiple superstars to injuries, I don't need a Magic 8 Ball to tell me what I already know.
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Anything is possible. But you have to set up expectations with what is probable.
And as a lifelong fan of the NFL, teams that start 2-5 with really crappy play and lose multiple superstars to injuries, I don't need a Magic 8 Ball to tell me what I already know.
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Dread-Head
Hall of Fame
The Texans are still alive, but so is Abe Vigoda and he won't be in the playoffs either. I'm behind the guys 100% but I have a better chance of:
a. Winning 5 Mega-Million Lotteries in 5 states SIMULTANEOUSLY
b. Having an orgy with Sofia Vergara, Helen Miren, Brenda Song & that chick from the "Nalin' Palin" video.
c. Being struck by lightening 3 times in a span of 5 minutes.
d. Being photographed with Bill wearing MATCHING Dallas Cowboy Jerseys
e. Getting Red_Zone & Corrosion to declare Obama the "Best President ever!"
f. Getting IlliniJen to endorse Ted Cruz for President.
g. ALL of the above occurring...not only once but twice.
than the Texans have of making the playoffs this year without Tickets.
a. Winning 5 Mega-Million Lotteries in 5 states SIMULTANEOUSLY
b. Having an orgy with Sofia Vergara, Helen Miren, Brenda Song & that chick from the "Nalin' Palin" video.
c. Being struck by lightening 3 times in a span of 5 minutes.
d. Being photographed with Bill wearing MATCHING Dallas Cowboy Jerseys
e. Getting Red_Zone & Corrosion to declare Obama the "Best President ever!"
f. Getting IlliniJen to endorse Ted Cruz for President.
g. ALL of the above occurring...not only once but twice.
than the Texans have of making the playoffs this year without Tickets.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
No, technically and mathematically they aren't out of it. But they're now 3 games behind the Colts, and though they are only 2 games out of the 2nd wild card, there's TEN teams in front of them. They've got to go 7-2 just to win 9 and that may not be enough. That includes games with Indy (twice), Denver, and New England. If you don't at least split those 4 games and sweep the rest, it ain't happening. And that's with questions marks all over the place including QB, the health of your RB's, RT, ILB, Safeties, just to name a few.
If the Texans were ever to go 15-1 in a season you can be guaranteed that the one loss occurred @ Indy..........and the sad thing is that particular game hasn't even happened yet.
If the Texans somehow turn it around from here and make it into the playoffs despite everything that has gone wrong the Texans will NOT lose again until after they have won the Lombardi trophy.
File this under "extremely unlikely".
This is as hopeful as I can be now.
If the Texans somehow turn it around from here and make it into the playoffs despite everything that has gone wrong the Texans will NOT lose again until after they have won the Lombardi trophy.
File this under "extremely unlikely".
This is as hopeful as I can be now.
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
KC or Denver is pretty much guaranteed the 1st wild card spot. That means we're in a fight with San Diego, NY Jets, Baltimore, Tennessee, and Miami for the 6th spot. We're currently 2 games back from SD.
With Cushing out, I don't think we can do it. You're looking at a 9-7 team taking that last spot and we're 2-5. I don't see 7 wins left on the schedule. We still have to play Indy twice, New England, Denver, and at Tennessee. I see a 6-7 win season.
With Cushing out, I don't think we can do it. You're looking at a 9-7 team taking that last spot and we're 2-5. I don't see 7 wins left on the schedule. We still have to play Indy twice, New England, Denver, and at Tennessee. I see a 6-7 win season.
I'd kill for a QB who completes 55% of his passes, averages 6.0 ypa, converts 29% on 3rd downs, sacks the opposing QB 4 times, forces that other QB to throw an INT, & forces the other team to fumble twice.
I'd trade my whole draft for that guy. Well, if we can get Schaub to sack the other QB, intercept passes & force fumbles... we're half way there.
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phantom17
Rookie
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
So you're saying there's a chance.
Bert Orange
Practice Squad
The following have to happen to win the division:
1) We sweep the division
2) We drop no more than two more games
3) Titans/Colts have to split OR Titans win both
4) Indy has to drop 2 more games outside of the above (or at least one if Titans sweep)
5) Titans have to drop 2 more games outside of the above
We'd only win due to a head-to-head tiebreaker.
Nothing I have written seems plausible, save for maybe the Titans losing a bunch.
It's over folks. Mathematically, smathematically.
1) We sweep the division
2) We drop no more than two more games
3) Titans/Colts have to split OR Titans win both
4) Indy has to drop 2 more games outside of the above (or at least one if Titans sweep)
5) Titans have to drop 2 more games outside of the above
We'd only win due to a head-to-head tiebreaker.
Nothing I have written seems plausible, save for maybe the Titans losing a bunch.
It's over folks. Mathematically, smathematically.
Its mathematically impossible for me or RZ to make that statement ... much less both of us. Never happen .... ever.
The Texans at least are still alive mathematically .... however slim.
& a fan base that believes in them.
I like that Bob brought a Houston guy in to lead this team, & I like that Wade is basically a Houston guy & I like that Kubiak began bringing Houston guys in, in the last couple of years, & I like that our future QB may very well be a Houston guy....
I mean I know we watch them on TV & that generates the money that affords them lavish lifestyles we can only dream about & that should be enough for them to nut up & go win a Super Bowl.
& I don't have a problem with criticizing the team. It does not mean in any way that you're not a true fan or that the sunshine pumper is in any way a better fan than you are.
Nothing against you Hervoyel, Just replying to what you're saying the Colts have, that we don't. I know it's a chicken & egg and all, but can you imagine what this team can do if this city "really" got behind the Texans? Not just Keenum, not just Watt, or Andre, but really get behind the Texans.