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VY wants to come home

texanred said:
vince young has all the physical tools and his athleticism is off the charts. He wills teams to victory the same way tebow does. However i still wouldnt take him. Just listening to that interview you can tell he has yet to grow up. "imagining #10 handing off or throwing to andre." really? Hey vy, how about you say something like "i would just like to come in and help this team anyway that i can." try that line instead just assuming you would come in and start.

I would love for a mature vince to come in and put on a texans jersey. I would love nothing more than to have kubiak, phillips, and young all being from houston taking our team and winning a superbowl.

But vince is being stupid, again. You know what it is? Vince doesn't have any friends, not any real friends. A real friend would have slapped him upside his head and told him how dumb he is and how he needs to straighten up. He is probably surrounded by yes men who will leave once all the money is gone.
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^^^this
 
srrono said:
I am not a VY guy. I would only give him the vet minimum. I would think he would be good as a back up in our system as a PAP mobile QB problem is Houston fans would want to throw Schuab under the bus the 1st bad game he had in favor of VY and this team does not need the distraction. VY needs to be on a team where he has a great QB coach and a strong starting QB. Kubiak could help VY thing is VY doesnt seem to wanna put in the work to become a good QB he wants to use his god given talent only and that is not good enough.
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I'm not really a VY guy either - and I don't think he commands that much on the free market. I would also give him the minimum, and see how much he really wants to be part of the system in Houston. Whilst our QB play, and our offense looked great for the most part last year - there are still times where the system isn't clicking, and we could do with something a little bit different to keep the defense honest.

I think Leinart has grown up a heck of a lot, and can only assume he therefore improved as a QB (from the very limited time we saw of him this year and the reports coming from the team I would say this was shown). I don't think he'll be sitting behind Schaub for another year, and somewhere will give him a better prospect of being a starter. I'd be quite happy with Yates and Young being QB 2a and 2b next year, to cover for injuries, and any gameplan alterations that pop up through the season.
 
Poor VY. Guess he lost the keys to "his house"? Or was he locked out? :thinking:

The Texans have done well with their current "no idiot prima donna" rules, so there is no point in making exceptions now.
 
Speedy said:
First of all, he's never been a "good" QB. Not even in college. Great athlete, but not QB. The off-season before they won the Rose Bowl they were talking about a position change with him. WR if I remember right.

Secondly, there isn't an "in thing" about hating on a hometown boy for Houstonians. This guy still gets plenty of love. It's just that those of us who were trying to tell folks this guy isn't all that got bombarded by the VY lovers. This guy was glorified beyond anything you can imagine. The media, the UT fans, even Mattress Mac was sniffing his jock and got his panties all in a wad when the Texans passed on him. Think Tebow times 50, at least around here. His ROY is a joke and probably a result of that hype.

Thirdly, his QB record doesn't reflect on him. He was on a good team. Defense and a great run game is what won football games in Tennessee during his time there. From 1999-2001, Trent Dilfer had a QB record of 22-4, including 4-0 in the post-season. That doesn't mean he was a great QB. And he wasn't. But he did STUDY the game enough to know how to play the QB position. That's something that VY has not done. He thought he could get by on atleticism alone. That doesn't work in this league. And until he does do the study required to play this game, I'll take a Kolb, Cassel and Orton over him eight days a week. And until he does get the mental part of this game down (if he ever does) he'll never be more than what he is now. A backup looking for a team to sit on the sidelines with from year to year.
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You don't know what you are talking about. It was never even for a second mentioned at UT that he would be moved from QB to WR before his JR season. Not even remotely true.

He absolutely was a great QB in college. Anyone who says otherwise has an axe to grind.

As for the running game - have you considered that when coupled with Chris Johnson, thats what made the run game work? Similar to McGahee and Tebow? McGahee didn't just all of a sudden remember how to be a great running back... LBs have to pause for a split second to figure out who has the ball, and thats all it takes in the NFL. McGahee was not special with Ortan at QB, and neither was Chris Johnson this year with Hasselback, or last year with Collins.
 
Let VY come home....

Plenty of ditches need digging in the Bayou City...

'bout all he is good for...

That is until he quits on the ditch digging crew....
 
I don't think there is anything wrong with improving the depth at the quarterback position. As we've seen this past season -- the desperate measures this team took by signing Garcia, Delhomme and even Clemmons before he was released. I would view Vince Young as a healthy competition for T.J. Yates as the backup. Young is more than talented and experienced enough to beat out Yates, IMO.

The main question is what to do with Matty Checkdown, aka Matt Leinart? He's a useless roster spot to me but he has one year left on his contract. I'm guessing he can be an easy release. But that's an ecstatic "yes sir" when it comes to signing Vince Young. An absolute no brainer to me.
 
IlliniJen said:
He can't throw
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I think this is a misconception associated with VY. From his time here he proved that he can make all the necessary throws. He actually had a very nice deep ball with plenty of pace and accuracy on it. His problem is that he makes terrible decisions because he can't read a defense. He tries to zip a pass into tight coverage or decides to loft one over the top of the defense without noticing a deep safety over the middle. Those types of situations and how he handled them were his demise here. His physical ability really shouldn't be questioned, IMO.

He is a complete headcase and, because of that, he will never be a consistent starter in the league. If he couldn't handle the pressure in Nashville he really can't in any other NFL market.
 
Bulluck53 said:
I think this is a misconception associated with VY. From his time here he proved that he can make all the necessary throws. He actually had a very nice deep ball with plenty of pace and accuracy on it. His problem is that he makes terrible decisions. He tries to zip a pass into tight coverage or decides to loft one over the top of the defense without noticing a deep safety over the middle.
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So does this make TJ Yates the white Vince Young?
 
Bulluck53 said:
Does Yates pout and blame everybody else when he screws up?
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I was speaking on behalf of physical talents.

Vince Young's mental problems stem from getting a free pass his entire life cus he can play football. I bet in high school he was that kid who cut class and roamed the halls all day and nobody ever said anything to him.

What Vince Young needs is somebody to give him a good ass kicking and knock some sense into him.
 
TEXANRED said:
I was speaking on behalf of physical talents.

Vince Young's mental problems stem from getting a free pass his entire life cus he can play football. I bet in high school he was that kid who cut class and roamed the halls all day and nobody ever said anything to him.

What Vince Young needs is somebody to give him a good ass kicking and knock some sense into him.
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If getting cut by the owner who went over his head coach's objections (or so the word on the street goes) to draft him didn't wake him up, I don't know what will.
 
DocBar said:
Depending on which finger you used, VY could be number 1.:D
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I take it that you're using the one next to the ring finger?
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