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Vince young

LikeABoss said:
I'm sensing alot of hate and resentment for Vince Young on this board.

It's like some people are just hoping this dude will fail, and they even make baseless assessments and assumptions of this man's game just to further validate their skewed views.

I'm wondering have any of these people even sat and watched this dude play at all this year?

Cause I don't see how anyone would think this guy would not be a successful Qb in the NFL.

Some people are so quick to point out that he threw 2 ints against T Tech to validate their little biased view towards Young, but at the same time they turn around and completely avoid the fact that he came back and threw 2 TD's against Tech in that game.

He threw 2 int's against Tech, so what, stuff like that is gonna happen to any Qb, even the best of them. Hell didn't the Houston Texans pick off Peyton Manning last Sunday? From my understanding, the Texans are the worst team in the league both offensively and especially defensively and they still managed to pick of the one of the best Qbs in the league.

People need to stop reaching on arguments to discredit Young's game.

*Shakes his head in disgust and leaves the thread*
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Your way too sensative. I have not seen any hate towards Vince Young on this board. I'm a huge fan of the longhorns and Vince Young, he will struggle some at first in the nfl, as does every qb, but he will be one of the great qb's in the long run. That being said, the texans have too many holes to fill and would not be able to develop vince young. texans need to stay with Carr and get this line corrected. Drafting vince young and putting him behind our line would destroy his nfl career, just like it is doing to DC.
 
I dont care if VY is a elite prospect or whatever you cant compare him to MJ. Michael Jordan is the best of all time. VY isnt even considered by most as the best player in collage right know much less of all time. If your comparing VY to MJ when he was in collage then thats a different story.
 
Bubbajwp said:
If your comparing VY to MJ when he was in collage then thats a different story.
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I can't speak for her but I don't think she was comparing 'MJ the finished product' to 'VY the kid a few years out of HS'. She was talking about not passing what she views as elite talent to take 'conventional thinking'. Bowie was the conventional choice that year and Portland took it.
 
Matt Jones and Vince Young have that long stride speed that is deceptive. It looks like they are running a lot slower than they actually are.

I would like to see Vince Young go back to Texas for his senior year. I think another solid year will show the scouts that his passing game has come around. He seems to be a different man ever since the last drive of the 1st half against OSU last year. That game and the Tech game seemed to have jump-started his passing game.

My only knock against Young, is that his turnovers seem to come in pairs. I rarely see him throw one INT without fumbling or throwing another INT a possession or two later.

That game on Saturday changed the Heisman race to a two man show between him and Reggie Bush. I think it will come down to those two when it is all said and done.
 
Phil Horvath leads the nation with a 70.3% completion. Does that make him the most accurate passer in college?
 
Why does everyone think they know whats going to happen? You guys are all making valid points but no one actually KNOWS what vince young will do?
 
Who would actually be terribly upset if the texans did some how get Vince Young?
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Why does everyone think they know whats going to happen? You guys are all making valid points but no one actually KNOWS what vince young will do?
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This is a message board where people have opinions that they want to share. If people didnt try to predict what will happen, their wouldnt be a need for a sports message board...
 
thats fine...making predictions and all.... but i said KNOW whats going to happen, not why does everyone predict whats going to happen.....
 
Vince Young is not comming out early. He already said he wants to stay for his senior year. Also, pretty much every standout UT football player stays for their senior year. Go Longhorns!! Can't wait till Rose Bowl when they shut everybody up about USC. If USC gets past UCLA. Hook Em Horns !!!!!!!!!!!
The only good football team in Texas!
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Who would actually be terribly upset if the texans did some how get Vince Young?
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I wouldn't. I think he and AJ would be great book end wide outs for David Carr.
 
Vinny said:

I can't speak for her but I don't think she was comparing 'MJ the finished product' to 'VY the kid a few years out of HS'. She was talking about not passing what she views as elite talent to take 'conventional thinking'. Bowie was the conventional choice that year and Portland took it.
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Agreed.

Actually, the Bowie/Jordan phrase I used as shorthand is probably unfair to Bowie. Who knows what sort of player he might have been had he not been injured? And had the Bulls had the second pick that season, it is quite likely that they would have picked Bowie because of their lack of a dominant big man and the prevailing belief at the time that you needed a big man to win--the conventional wisdom Vinny was talking about.

The Jordan pick was just a fluke of draft order.

The college Jordan, soon to be drafted, was not at the time considered a once in a lifetime talent. Dean Smith's team oriented play may not have showcased his remarkable skills to their fullest. And at that time, there was a question mark about whether he could be an outside shooter--later erased in his pro career by his desire to continuously improve his remarkable skills.

Young has already done his showcase, although, I do agree with others than another college season would be nice for both him and the horns.

Barring injury, it would be like a stronger faster Randall Cunningham, in an era where it is not such a knock to be able to run. Or maybe Culpepper and Vick in a blender--fast, elusive and hard to bring down. Young makes me run out of superlatives or comparisons because he does something each week that both surprises me and not surprises me at the same time. You do worry some about injuries because of how much he exposes himself to tackles, but he is elusive.

But he makes you consider the age old question--do you draft for need or draft for the best available guy--in the era of the salary cap, it makes things more difficult that way, but if you want somebody bad enough, you can play around with stuff.
 
Texans_Chick said:
Agreed.

But he makes you consider the age old question--do you draft for need or draft for the best available guy--in the era of the salary cap, it makes things more difficult that way, but if you want somebody bad enough, you can play around with stuff.
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This is really interesting because, assuming we continue to stink, the Texans will get to answer this question. If we go for the best players in the draft, then we are looking at Bush, Young, or Lionheart. If we are drafting to the need, then it's o-line time.

I will always give Vince this much: ever since the Rose Bowl, he has really given me some awesome football to watch.
 
I think it is really hard to compare a football player to a basketball player because in football everyone is so dependent on the entire team. A great basketball player can single handedly lead a team to greatness. A football player is dependent on linemen, quarterbacks, wideouts, and running backs. Putting a quarterback behind a terrible line is like putting a great basketball team on a team full of midgets. Or giving a great race car driver a terrible car. Football is the ultimate team sport, and if you keep on ignoring the most important part of the team (the line) you will NEVER be a great team regardless of who you have taking snaps. Before we even consider drafting position players we need to address the line and address it with multiple picks.
 
She wasn't comparing a football player to a basketball player. She was comparing the dilema of taking 'safer picks' over possible greatness.
 
oso said:
This is really interesting because, assuming we continue to stink, the Texans will get to answer this question. If we go for the best players in the draft, then we are looking at Bush, Young, or Leinart. If we are drafting to the need, then it's o-line time.
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Fixed it. There is no such person as Matt Lionheart
 
Vinny said:
She wasn't comparing a football player to a basketball player. She was comparing the dilema of taking 'safer picks' over possible greatness.
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I understand that, but what I am saying is that in football the safer pick (i.e. OL) is sometimes more important to a team than the greatness because football is much more of a team oriented sport than any other sport. In the case of the Texans, it's a nobrainer. Not drafting a lineman with our first pick would be as much of a head scratcher as the Lions continually picking WRs with their first pick. If our first pick is not Winston, Ferguson, or McNeil, then our draft is a failure. When you have the chance to take a potential perrenial probowl LT (the most important position on the line) or at least a solid LT for the next 5-10 years, you take them without hesitation unless you have Jonathan Ogden or Orlando Pace.

The Rams had the Greatest Show on Turf because they had an unbelievable line. Jamal Lewis almost broke the rushing record because they had an unbelievable line. Priest Holmes broke the touchdown record because he has an unbelievable line. The Broncos run at will because they have an unbelievable line. Brett Favre had all of his success the past 10 or so years because he was behind an unbelievable line.

If we want to be successful we have to have a good line. We have the worst line in the league right now by far. So if it is between taking a safe pick or a greatness pick, I am taking the safe pick right now because we can fill our team with a bunch of great position players but without the line they are useless.
 
Hey that Matt van damme Movie thats start with and L was pretty sweet alot of people are gonna call him that when ever the texans draft him.
I still remember that great Poster Elite Came Out with that referrence to matt Ligerheart.
 
Vinny said:
ha! Matt ********* is no more!
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The only time a player should come out early is when his stock can't go any higher. As it stands now, Young is going to have to stay another year to improve his stock as a QB.
 
I dont see Young or Leinart coming to Houston.

$20 says we keep Carr, and continue to build around him. I wouldnt put it past the new Head Coach to take a OT, and OG, 1-2 in the draft.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Who would actually be terribly upset if the texans did some how get Vince Young?
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I would. David Carr can be a great QB still and we definitely have other glaring issues to fill. Putting Young at WR would also be ridiculous. While I do think that Young will be a decent to very good QB some day, it makes no sense for us to draft him, assuming he even comes out this year which he most likely will not. If we end up with a top 3 pick, and it looks like we probably will, we should trade down a couple spots and draft the best OL that is in the draft, whoever that happens to be when the draft comes. After that we should look to get more help on the OL, get a better pass rusher, either a LB or DE depending on what defensive system we will be running next year, and another CB that can cover someone better than Faggins and Buchanon are currently doing
 
tulexan said:
I understand that, but what I am saying is that in football the safer pick (i.e. OL) is sometimes more important to a team than the greatness because football is much more of a team oriented sport than any other sport. In the case of the Texans, it's a nobrainer. Not drafting a lineman with our first pick would be as much of a head scratcher as the Lions continually picking WRs with their first pick. If our first pick is not Winston, Ferguson, or McNeil, then our draft is a failure. When you have the chance to take a potential perrenial probowl LT (the most important position on the line) or at least a solid LT for the next 5-10 years, you take them without hesitation unless you have Jonathan Ogden or Orlando Pace.

The Rams had the Greatest Show on Turf because they had an unbelievable line. Jamal Lewis almost broke the rushing record because they had an unbelievable line. Priest Holmes broke the touchdown record because he has an unbelievable line. The Broncos run at will because they have an unbelievable line. Brett Favre had all of his success the past 10 or so years because he was behind an unbelievable line.

If we want to be successful we have to have a good line. We have the worst line in the league right now by far. So if it is between taking a safe pick or a greatness pick, I am taking the safe pick right now because we can fill our team with a bunch of great position players but without the line they are useless.
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You only pick an O-Line guy high if you are certain he is going to dominate on the next level, like Pace was. I am not sure of that at this time for next year draft. This is not a slam dunk issue as there are successful lines made from top picks and successful lines that were manufactured from pieces and parts.

Anyhow, Vinny was right, I was only making the MJ analogy talking about need v. talent, but if you want a football comparison, here goes....

In 1975, the Colts traded down to 3 help them with a need. Steve Bartowski went first, Randy White went second. The Colts with the third pick took Ken Huff. It wasn't the great crop of O-linemen that year, but they had a need.

And they didn't have a need for running back, so they picked Huff and passed on another guy that was available, some guy named Walter Payton.

Now, if any of the Oline guys in the draft really are Orlando Pace clones, then maybe we should take them. But, if we are so desperate and take a hyped up Tony Mandarich kinda guy and pass on a rare talent, it will make the DJ/TJ debate look like nuthin.

As for VY coming out, I have no idea and I am guessing he really doesn't either, until the season ends. A 2007 draft with an improved seasoned VY would be hard to pass, no matter what your needs are. As I said, I don't know if the Texans will be ever in a position to make him work, but I just don't want him to go to Dallas or a division rival because it would kill me. Want to be able to root for him wherever he goes because he is a joy to watch.

BTW, does anyone know if there is a 2005 internet video of VY out there like last year's clip video? Just wondering.
 
Well Ferguson, or Winston if he returns to his pre-injury form, is supposed to be one of the best LT's the draft has seen in a long time. Maybe it is just me not being a Texas guy and not being die hard about Vince Young, but I think that a LT that is at the level of Ferguson and Winston is too good to pass up. Vince Young is very exciting to watch and is vastly improved but he is still very raw at QB. The risk of taking Young is much higher than taking a proven LT like Ferguson and Winston and we don't have the option of taking a highly risky pick who may or may not pan out in the next few years. Young is extremely athletic, but athleticism only takes you so far in the NFL. On an NFL scale of 1-10 for passing, right now he is a 2 or 3. His running is a 7 or 8, but you have to be at least a decent passer in the NFL and right now I don't see it. That's not to say that he won't develop into a great passer, which he very well could, but I would rather have the LT who could be a perrenial pro bowler or at least solid pass protector for the next 10 years.
 
If the texans end up with the 1st pick, they will have so many options. The only player that i dont want them to pick is *********. other than that They can have at it. It's only a two players on the whole team that cant be replaced DR & AJ....period
 
We all need to relax, take our time until the season is finished and declarations for early entry into the draft have been announced. Overwhelmingly on this board Vince Young is mentioned with the greatest collegiate football player's ever, should he help Texas win a National Championship this year, then come back for a return trip, like Matt ******* or Reggie Bush, we all have our opinions.

But at the end of the day the best choice, not just because of need but upside as well is going to be D'Brickashaw Ferguson. He should only get better and better and be an all-pro in 2-3 years, the improvement to the Texans would be immediate and impressive, just as much as the other great players mentioned in this thread :twocents:
 
if you havent seen last year's vince young highlights you gotta check em out...It is unreal how stupid he makes defenses look. Accurate passer or not, if i'm an nfl GM im picking him up. He is going to change the game at the next level.
 
Texans_Chick said:
...but if you want a football comparison, here goes....

In 1975, the Colts traded down to 3 help them with a need. Steve Bartowski went first, Randy White went second. The Colts with the third pick took Ken Huff. It wasn't the great crop of O-linemen that year, but they had a need.

And they didn't have a need for running back, so they picked Huff and passed on another guy that was available, some guy named Walter Payton.

Now, if any of the Oline guys in the draft really are Orlando Pace clones, then maybe we should take them. But, if we are so desperate and take a hyped up Tony Mandarich kinda guy and pass on a rare talent, it will make the DJ/TJ debate look like nuthin.
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Here is another draft where teams took need positions in the line over an elite skill guy in Tomlinson.

Round Pick Player Name Team Position College
1 1 1 Michael Vick Falcons QB Virginia Tech
2 2 Leonard Davis Cardinals T Texas
3 3 Gerard Warren Browns DT Florida
4 4 Justin Smith Bengals DE Missouri
5 5 LaDainian Tomlinson Chargers RB Texas Christian
 
Vinny said:
Here is another draft where teams took need positions in the line over an elite skill guy in Tomlinson.

Round Pick Player Name Team Position College
1 1 1 Michael Vick Falcons QB Virginia Tech
2 2 Leonard Davis Cardinals T Texas
3 3 Gerard Warren Browns DT Florida
4 4 Justin Smith Bengals DE Missouri
5 5 LaDainian Tomlinson Chargers RB Texas Christian
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the Chargers traded down and still got what they wanted, too. They selected running back LaDainian Tomlinson of TCU with the fifth overall pick, then got Purdue quarterback Drew Brees with the first pick of the second round :)
 
tulexan said:
Well Ferguson, or Winston if he returns to his pre-injury form, is supposed to be one of the best LT's the draft has seen in a long time. Maybe it is just me not being a Texas guy and not being die hard about Vince Young, but I think that a LT that is at the level of Ferguson and Winston is too good to pass up. Vince Young is very exciting to watch and is vastly improved but he is still very raw at QB. The risk of taking Young is much higher than taking a proven LT like Ferguson and Winston and we don't have the option of taking a highly risky pick who may or may not pan out in the next few years. Young is extremely athletic, but athleticism only takes you so far in the NFL. On an NFL scale of 1-10 for passing, right now he is a 2 or 3. His running is a 7 or 8, but you have to be at least a decent passer in the NFL and right now I don't see it. That's not to say that he won't develop into a great passer, which he very well could, but I would rather have the LT who could be a perrenial pro bowler or at least solid pass protector for the next 10 years.
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A number of thoughts about this post:

* VY college numbers compare very favorably to Vick's, but he has more of an NFL body type. I find it hard to believe his skills wouldn't translate to the NFL.

* His passing numbers compare very favorably to the passing numbers of his contemporaries (see e.g.):

http://www.statesman.com/horns/content/sports/stories/longhorns/10/27texfoot.html

If you have been watching his games this year, it seems like he is making all of the passes. And there is no concern with his arm strength. His delivery is unorthodox (like a number of the QBs in the NFL), but importantly his release is fast.

And he has been putting up passing stats having a receiving corp that was considered the weakness of the team because they were so green.

* His running average last year was 90 yards per game, an average better than Ronnie Brown and Carnell "Cadillac" Williams, who were the 2nd and 5th picks in last year's draft.

* He wins games and is a competitor and is just a hard man to bring down. Watching him is like watching Playstation. You know, it looks like he is gonna be wrapped up, and he does some sort of joystick waggle and he takes it home.

* The only way I would want to take a O-linemen with a top 5 pick is if they really were the second coming of Orlando Pace--the man who was the inspiration for the pancake stat. If you are gonna spend that much money on a rookie LT, someone who is going to have no mentors, somebody that has to learn on the job, you have to be totally convinced that the guy is a lock. I am not there yet.

I don't understand why you are stating unsubstatiated things about VY's game (no stats to back them up), yet completely ignore potential problems with the Oline guys you are talking about--e.g. maybe Brick might have trouble keeping weight or keeping skills after putting on more weight--if we are talking about college guys making the transition to the NFL, do you have any concerns at all about an ACC guy who would be extremely light for a LT meriting top 5 money to play LT on a team with few Oline mentors? (A number of the high Oline picks in recent years have gone to lines that already had stud Olinemen on them--and they weren't forced to play LT immediately).

I understand the belief that the Texans need a LT, but I don't at all understand folks who believe that VY won't succeed in the NFL. He's a winner, he has the body type, he is a stat buster and just watching him he is like nobody I have ever seen.

Don't get me wrong, if the stud of all stud LTs is in the next draft, let's go get him--but I just don't want our need of a LT make us believe someone is better than he is. I ball up in my seat and start crying "mommy" every 3rd and long situation, but the whole blanket statement, "we need to take a LT with the first pick we have" makes me nervous if the guy isn't really the stud we need.

But yeah, all of this talk is too early. I want more information about everybody.


Vince is not allowed to go to the Titans even though I bet that is up there on his list cuz of McNair. I would weep and gnash teeth.
 
Texans_Chick said:
Vince is not allowed to go to the Titans even though I bet that is up there on his list cuz of McNair. I would weep and gnash teeth.
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Thank you for putting that thought in my head...thanks a lot. I need to go throwup right now... :brickwall
 
"VY college numbers compare very favorably to Vick's, but he has more of an NFL body type. I find it hard to believe his skills wouldn't translate to the NFL."

Yes but Michael Vick runs a 4.25 40. Vince Young is nowhere near that. Vince Young is closer to a bigger Donovan McNabb who is not as good of a passer. Vince Young puts up great numbers because he is behind one of the best offensive lines in college football. He is also fortunate to play in a Big 12 conference which is mediocre at best.

Again, I believe that Vince has a chance to be a good NFL quarterback. I don't know how many times I have to say this. It is going to take a while for him to adjust to the NFL because he is still a very raw quarterback.

What I like about D'Brickinshaw Ferguson is that he has been starting at LT since he was a freshman. He is an athletic freak at LT and has great footwork and speed. Go to any website that discusses the 2006 draft and everyone lists him as the consensus top LT in the draft. A lot say that he has the potential to be one of the premier LTs in the NFL for many years. Sure he needs to gain about 20 pounds, but once he gets into the NFL that shouldn't be an issue because of the intensity of NFL workouts.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ot/dbrickashawferguson.html

http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/index.cfm

http://huddlegeeks.com/NFL_Draft/2006/mock2006.htm

Everything I read about this guy and when I have watched him makes me think that he is the best man for our team. When UVA played against FSU no one even got close to the QB on the left side and FSU is one of the best defenses in the league.
 
tulexan said:
He is also fortunate to play in a Big 12 conference which is mediocre at best.
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Compared to the juggernaut that is the Pac-10... :rolleyes:

What is amazing is if Vince Young and Matt Linhert were to complete the same pass to the same wide-open WR against the same horrible team, Linhert would be praised for leading the open WR pefectly while Young would not be given any credit because the WR was too open.
 
durability is my main concern with D'Brick, as far as raw potential he looks alot like a Walter Jones type, not a pancaking LT like Pace, different style but equally effective and one worth the risk:cool:
 
Fiddy said:
Compared to the juggernaut that is the Pac-10... :rolleyes:

What is amazing is if Vince Young and Matt Linhert were to complete the same pass to the same wide-open WR against the same horrible team, Linhert would be praised for leading the open WR pefectly while Young would not be given any credit because the WR was too open.
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If you read any of my posts regarding Reggie Bush you will see that I have consistently said that Reggie Bush playing in a weak conference is something that concerns me. If USC or Texas played in the SEC, they probably would not be undefeated. The only conference that is even close to the SEC is maybe the ACC, but it is a distant second.
 
tulexan said:
"Yes but Michael Vick runs a 4.25 40. Vince Young is nowhere near that. Vince Young is closer to a bigger Donovan McNabb who is not as good of a passer. Vince Young puts up great numbers because he is behind one of the best offensive lines in college football.
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Vick is faster but Young is stronger and still plenty fast. He is not just fast for a QB, but just fast, agile and hard to tackle. Guys that are fast enough to catch him oft can't bring him down. The comparisons to other players are weird to do because truly there has never been a player with the combination of size and skill sets as VY. Ever.

His Oline is great but he gets rid of the ball quickly and often runs for big yards after the initial contact with the defense.

Even if he is a bit of a project, he is a project that I'd like to watch on the field, and good enough that you might want him so that your competitors don't have him.

Anyhow, this whole thing makes me think of the 1989 draft, because Mandarich was the first mega hyped lineman:

1 Dallas Troy Aikman QB UCLA
2 Green Bay Tony Mandarich T Michigan State
3 Detroit Barry Sanders RB Oklahoma State
4 Kansas City Derrick Thomas DE Alabama
5 Atlanta Deion Sanders CB Florida State

Many of the draft hypers at the time were critical of Dallas for not taking Mandarich over Aikman (including Mel Kiper Jr). To be fair, Mandarich was very dominant in college so from a non-hindsight perspective, you can understand the pick. As someone who has followed the Packers long time, I have to say I am still traumatized from that and it still freaks me out some.

I want a top 5 lineman to be perfect. Not just the guy we are getting just because we need one bad. But I guess we will kick the tires, and hopefully get someone who will help.
 
tulexan said:
Reggie Bush and Vince Young right now aren't in the same level that LT was in college.
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tulexan said:
Vince Young puts up great numbers because he is behind one of the best offensive lines in college football. He is also fortunate to play in a Big 12 conference which is mediocre at best.
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Does anybody really need me to point out the blatant hypocrisy?
 
I'm not saying Vince Young won't be a good NFL QB, but we already have a good one in David Carr and spending a top five pick to get a QB when we already have a #1 pick and $40 million invested in a capable one would be ridiculous. Young would not be able to perform very well here, especially with the OLine we currently have if that problem is not addressed this offseason. I also have questions about Ferguson being able to keep weight on and performing with the added weight, but someone like Winston from Miami who is also athletic (came into the U. as a TE) and now weighs 315 pounds would also be an excellent option. Either way the draft is too far off and there are too many changes that can happen in the rest of the season and with our coaching staff in the offseason to be predicting such things at this moment.
 
Huge said:
Does anybody really need me to point out the blatant hypocrisy?
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You just can't be a superstar in the NFL unless you play the SMU shetland ponies every year.
 
If you like Young, then you should love Marcus Vick. Really Vick would be a n-brainer pick. If I am the Texans, then I pick the LT this year. If things turn south, then Vick might be our player next year.
 
Above average arm. Above average running abilities. Below average size. Questionable character issues.

What's to love about Marcus Vick?
 
I admit that LT didn't play against the top competition in the league, but his numbers were unreal. How many players have ever run for 400 yards and 6 touchdowns in one game? He had a few 300 yard games and even more 250+ yard games. He was the consensus top running back in the NCAA. There is a debate as to whether Reggie Bush or Vince Young are the top players at their position. Reggie Bush has had 1 game in his career where he rushed for 200 yards and 1 game where he carried the ball 20 times. Vince Young isn't even in the top 30 in passing yards and is tied for 19th in passing touchdowns. His touchdown to turnover ratio is 2:1 which is good, but not great. He is 28th in the nation for rushing, yet is not the top running QB (Brad Smith). Both Reggie and Vince are great players, but both need to make some changes before going to the next level. Reggie needs to gain about 20 pounds and needs to be able to carry the ball for 20 or 30 times a game, and Vince needs to cut down on the turnovers and improve his passing. They both have the potential to be very good yet need some time (Vince more than Reggie).

I don't know why some won't admit that Vince needs a little more time. Admitting that he needs more time is not saying that he is a bad player, it is just saying that he could get even better with a little more guidance and coaching. You should want him to stay at Texas because that means they will have a chance at the title next year too. The Texans are not going to take him. It doesn't matter if he is from Houston, we have way too much money invested in David Carr and we are not going to tie up more of our cap space in one position. If the Texans weren't going to pick a Texas guy with DJ, they surely aren't going to pick Vince Young. The team could care less about UT. They don't need to bring local guys to sell tickets or to expand their fan base. They are more interested in getting the right player for the team and right now that is D'Brickinshaw Ferguson or Eric Winston.
 
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