Vince Young for Texans qb!

[GP]

If Kubiak actually thought that, and took Young for that reason, and that reason alone, I'd back his choice 110 per cent.

Problem is . . .if Young is taken with the 1st overall pick, I'd have a tough time believing that it was Kubiak's decision alone. I'd be deeply suspicious that McNair knuckled under to the marketing side of the equation.

Granted, a lot of the homers would jump for joy if Vince was taken, no doubt. But the accusations would fly fast and furious . . . count on it.

McNair won't knuckle under the marketing side of the equation. He sat through all of last season's home games and saw empty seats BEFORE the game began, and then saw even more empty seats after each quarter of play had concluded....and he still refused to fire Capers under intense fan scrutiny and outcry. For an owner to sit there and watch an entire season of home game empty seats IN MASSES and refuse to do anything about an obviously inept coaching staff, special teams excluded, then I doubt he's worried too much about the ramifications of drafting or not drafting Vince Young.

He didn't buckle then, and he ain't gonna' buckle under a bunch of U.T. Vince Young homers who think "their" guy is the only guy any smart team would take with the number 1 pick in the draft.

I doubt VY is anywhere near the Texans' radar.

 

[Big B Texan Fan]

I think Volek has potential to be a starter. He definately did the job when McNair got hurt this year or last (I forget). I wonder why the Titans aren't seriously considering him to replace McNair. I guess every team wants that 1st rounder to lead their team.

Just like all the other Fresno St. QB's (except Dilfer, although his D won the games while he didn't lose them), they know he will not amount to a hill of beans in he NFL.

 

[thunderkyss]

If Kubiak actually thought that, and took Young for that reason, and that reason alone, I'd back his choice 110 per cent.

Problem is . . .if Young is taken with the 1st overall pick, I'd have a tough time believing that it was Kubiak's decision alone. I'd be deeply suspicious that McNair knuckled under to the marketing side of the equation.

Granted, a lot of the homers would jump for joy if Vince was taken, no doubt. But the accusations would fly fast and furious . . . count on it.

Matt's stock has fallen so far now, it isn't even funny.... I haven't checked the mocks yet, but they are probably a little behind right now, because it just doesn't compute yet.

Norm Chow.... USC..... Jeff Fisher.... USC......... Matt Leinart...... USC... it ought to fit. But the Titans are making the decision for the long haul... and only a fool would think Matt has the upside Vince does.

He didn't buckle then, and he ain't gonna' buckle under a bunch of U.T. Vince Young homers who think "their" guy is the only guy any smart team would take with the number 1 pick in the draft.

Now that's not fair..... it's actually the Reggie Bush guys who are less open about picks other than their guy.

 

[kbourda]

Count me in for Vince also......



What kind of offense did McNabb run @ Syracuse?? Not that it has anything to do with this subject, I just wanted to know.

McNabb passed from out of the shotgun a bunch at Syracuse.

 

[Kaiser Toro]

Most people think Billy Volek will start next year, while Vince is Groomed.

The AFC South will be fun next year with the Fresno State Fantasy Football Camp in full swing.

 

[Coach C.]

Vince will need more than one year to be groomed, but I would like to see what Volek could do as a starter.

 

[Coach C.]

Kubiak another smart post. Mario would do wonders for our defense and that is the worst part of the ball. I understand people really feel like Weaver is stout, but he is a glorified DT, I will say that till he proves me wrong. Kalu is injured often and when he is not he is solid in spot play, Sam Cowart aging and it is showing which is disturbing, and Michael Stone may not even make it through camp. Did I forget any big time defensive additions. What Kubiak has done for the defense is brought in veterans to help, but they cannot be counted on to really hold teams.

 

[Kaiser Toro]

Kubiak another smart post. Mario would do wonders for our defense and that is the worst part of the ball. I understand people really feel like Weaver is stout, but he is a glorified DT, I will say that till he proves me wrong. Kalu is injured often and when he is not he is solid in spot play, Sam Cowart aging and it is showing which is disturbing, and Michael Stone may not even make it through camp. Did I forget any big time defensive additions. What Kubiak has done for the defense is brought in veterans to help, but they cannot be counted on to really hold teams.

If we draft amd sign Bush expect our defense to suffer for years. We will have no cash for any big time FA acquisitions.

 

[axman40]

I got 3 words for ya: GIVE IT UP!!!

Not until the 29th!

 

[LoneStarState]

If we draft amd sign Bush expect our defense to suffer for years. We will have no cash for any big time FA acquisitions.

 

[dirty steve]

Matt's stock has fallen so far now, it isn't even funny.... I haven't checked the mocks yet, but they are probably a little behind right now, because it just doesn't computer yet.

every mock i am looking at (1 on espn and 3 on sportsline) have leinart going at number three overall and one at ten. i wouldn't exactly call that a freefall. but like you said they must be behind (your opinion). and what do you mean by "computer yet?"

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

Some folks want the Texans to draft Vince Young 1st ... and you can make a good case he will not be the 1st QB taken unless its by the Texans . He may not be the 2nd QB taken .

I will bet Reggie Bush is the 1st RB taken . I 'll bet Mario Williams is the 1st DL taken . You know what I'll bet DBrick is the 1st OL taken . These are certain ... the Vince stuff is wishfull thinking .

 

[Mailman04]

P-L-E-A-S-E, Texans need Vince Young as much as I need the flu. Why don't you just trade all the players not from Texas on the roster for players from Houston and Texas?

 

[thunderkyss]

every mock i am looking at (1 on espn and 3 on sportsline) have leinart going at number three overall and one at ten. i wouldn't exactly call that a freefall. but like you said they must be behind (your opinion). and what do you mean by "computer yet?"

I meant compute yet.... Matt is the logical safe choice.... But Tennesee will take Vince, if we don't get him first... which all signs point to us not taking Vince Young

Some folks want the Texans to draft Vince Young 1st ... and you can make a good case he will not be the 1st QB taken unless its by the Texans . He may not be the 2nd QB taken .

I will bet Reggie Bush is the 1st RB taken . I 'll bet Mario Williams is the 1st DL taken . You know what I'll bet DBrick is the 1st OL taken . These are certain ... the Vince stuff is wishfull thinking .

I bet Vince will be the first QB taken.......

If we don't draft Reggie Bush, I can see N.O. passing.... & Tennessee may very well take Leinart or Cutler to build their team around. I don't see the Jets passing, so more than likely Reggie Will be the first RB taken......

P-L-E-A-S-E, Texans need Vince Young as much as I need the flu. Why don't you just trade all the players not from Texas on the roster for players from Houston and Texas?

We need Reggie about as much as you need the flu...... We've got three ProBowlers on offense who play the WR position. We've got a RB who has had three back to back seasons where he has improved significantly. Ranked 19th in 2003, ranked 15th in 2004, and ranked 9th in 2005..... on bad teams mind you. He has ranked extremely well amoung all running backs in the league while playing on a team that has never had a winning season. that has never won three games in a row.....

But I guess you guys won't be happy 'til our backfield is full of Cali-boys.....

I can't wait til the 29th. I hope VY ends up in New York. I think Lienart will end up in Tennessee. They need a QB ready to start now. Volek is not the answer. He will be a career back up. He is like Cody Carlson, very good back up but when handed the keys to the offense failed terribly.

By the way didn't CC say a couple of years ago the reason they drafted Ragone over Simms is because he was from Texas and he needed to get of the area to do well in the NFL. or was that hear say, I don't remember.......

And David was a backup to Volek....... couldn't beat him at Fresno, but we should believe he is ProBowl material in the NFL, where Volek is a back-up at best..... If Tennessee needed a QB to start now, they would have worked it out with McNair... his performance to salary ratio is much more acceptable than Carr's, and that's with McNair's inflated deal...... because he earned it, with his performance from past, recent years.

When has Volek been handed the keys & failed terribly?? A couple of years ago, teams were going after him like they are for Shaub now.

I bet CC is kicking himself in the *** now over that Ragone/Simms deal now.

 

[thunderkyss]

He hasn't been handed the keys full time yet. Cody was given the keys back 94 or 95 forget what year and couldn't cut it.

Henson's story isn't over yet.....

His problem was being away from the game for so long..... not poor performance on the football field right after his college career.

 

[thunderkyss]

Okay well Carrs problem is due to the lack of protection by the offensive line.

You're right, that's the same thing.

We were discussing Volek though

 

[Kaiser Toro]

If we sign Bush we will have approx 62 million spent on offense, 22 million of it will be spent on three players until 2008.

We have Walker's dead cap hit of 5+million next year and I would assume that dead space will go up. Granted we do get some goodness with the cap going up incrementally each year.

Is the sky falling? No, but something to be concerned about if Robinson, Greenwood, TJ, Peek, Babin and others don't show us some improvement.

 

[thunderkyss]

No YOU brought up Carr not me.

Which brings us back to you thinking Billy Volek is a back-up at best..... but Carr is a potential ProBowler..... even though Billy started ahead of Carr in college.....

This is not a knock on Carr.. but a compliment to Billy.

 

[Loqitar]

The NFL is an entertainment enterprise. It’s business purpose is to derive profits from entertaining the public. It’s ultimate customers are its fans. Engendering customer loyalty is the key to all forms of revenue...ticket sales, merchandise sales and advertising.

I am a Dallas Cowboys fan, have been for over 40 years. I have attended scores and scores of games and viewed on TV the bulk of the remaining contests. I love the Star....and its stars: Meredith, Lilly, Hayes... Staubach, Pearson, Dorsett... Aikman, Smith, Irvin.

Until they moved, I loved the Oilers, too....Pastorini, Bethea, Moon....but most of all, I loved Earl Campbell. Why? Because to me, Earl was the “special” player, a fabulous talent on the field and, just as importantly, he was the one I already loved before he was an Oiler..the one I’ll love for as long as I can remember the names of football players. And now there is Vince...

Vince is Superman! I love that young man...for what he’s done for my school and for what he’s done for my state. He has entertained me beyond my wildest expectations. He dazzles me. I have seen no one EVER who is like him. The closest I can come is to say he reminds me of Roger Staubach...he can throw, he can run, he is a fabulous leader and he hates to lose, and rarely does... and if it is possible for anyone to do so, it is Vince who has the potential to match what Roger did, and even to exceed it!

I am a Texan. That is a word that is full of meaning to a native of this state. And there is a NFL team who claims that name...but, in recent weeks, I have come to wonder if they understand what the word actually means to those of us who proudly claim the title. They seem to resent the pressure from their fans (and potential fans) who want the privilege of having a Texas Superman on their Texas team... a virtuoso talent no less, who they already love and who they believe will do for his next team what he has done for every team he has played for...thrill his fans and take them on a magical ride with each and every game and with a Championship as a realizable goal. Truth is, we Texans love football, but we have high expectations for our teams...we want them to be good and we want them to win and we want to believe we can be Champions along with them.

Houston, you have a chance to be this decade’s Champions. Seize it! Vince will show you the way... and millions of fans who call themselves Texans will beat a path to your door.

 

[Kaiser Toro]

The NFL is an entertainment enterprise. It’s business purpose is to derive profits from entertaining the public. It’s ultimate customers are its fans. Engendering customer loyalty is the key to all forms of revenue...ticket sales, merchandise sales and advertising.

I am a Dallas Cowboys fan, have been for over 40 years. I have attended scores and scores of games and viewed on TV the bulk of the remaining contests. I love the Star....and its stars: Meredith, Lilly, Hayes... Staubach, Pearson, Dorsett... Aikman, Smith, Irvin.

Until they moved, I loved the Oilers, too....Pastorini, Bethea, Moon....but most of all, I loved Earl Campbell. Why? Because to me, Earl was the “special” player, a fabulous talent on the field and, just as importantly, he was the one I already loved before he was an Oiler..the one I’ll love for as long as I can remember the names of football players. And now there is Vince...

Vince is Superman! I love that young man...for what he’s done for my school and for what he’s done for my state. He has entertained me beyond my wildest expectations. He dazzles me. I have seen no one EVER who is like him. The closest I can come is to say he reminds me of Roger Staubach...he can throw, he can run, he is a fabulous leader and he hates to lose, and rarely does... and if it is possible for anyone to do so, it is Vince who has the potential to match what Roger did, and even to exceed it!

I am a Texan. That is a word that is full of meaning to a native of this state. And there is a NFL team who claims that name...but, in recent weeks, I have come to wonder if they understand what the word actually means to those of us who proudly claim the title. They seem to resent the pressure from their fans (and potential fans) who want the privilege of having a Texas Superman on their Texas team... a virtuoso talent no less, who they already love and who they believe will do for his next team what he has done for every team he has played for...thrill his fans and take them on a magical ride with each and every game and with a Championship as a realizable goal. Truth is, we Texans love football, but we have high expectations for our teams...we want them to be good and we want them to win and we want to believe we can be Champions along with them.

Houston, you have a chance to be this decade’s Champions. Seize it! Vince will show you the way... and millions of fans who call themselves Texans will beat a path to your door.

Although I share every sentiment here, I do not want VY or any high priced QB's who do not have NFL experience. Vince I believe will be my favorite NFL player in a couple of years. I hope that somehow he will come back to the Texans when he and the organization are ready.

 

[light]

i agree, the texans should trade up from the 33 pick to the packers 5th pick the day of the draft. i dont care if they have to give up four picks for vince young it would be worth it. i know that if kubiak developed an athletic winner like vince he will be able to carry us to a super bowl. david carr is still an unproven quarterback who came out of the 2002 draft possibly the worst draft ever. you cant foget the the fact that vince young only lost two college games one of which he only played half the game. also vince had over 3000 yards last year and carried his offense to a national championship . it is true what sports analyst say about his weird throwing motion and the fact he mostly played in a spread out shotgun offense. but if you think thatvince doesnt have what it takes your just plain stupid. hes got heart. anyways reggie bush and vince young would keep defensive coordinators up all night.reggie bush mvp 07