Vince over Bush any day of the week! Say no to track spikes.

[coachdent]

Barry Sanders = 5'8" 200
Warrick Dunn = 5'9" 180
Kevin Jones = 5'11" 211
Domanick Davis = 5'9" 221
Brian Westbrook = 5'8" 203

Reggie Bush = 5'11" 202

"Reggie Bush is too small". Yeah. You're probably right.:brickwall

24 reps at 225 isn't good enough for you huh? Yeah. I can see that. I can see where you would bash the guy for not lifting more than the lineman who have longer arms. Makes sense.

"With the first pick in the 2006 NFL Draft, the Houston Texans select... Reggie Bush, running back, University of Southern California."

 

[Texans_Chick]

Threads nitpicking Reggie Bush after his proday are as silly as the ones nitpicking Vince Young after his proday.

 

[jacquescas]

Barry Sanders = 5'8" 200
Warrick Dunn = 5'9" 180
Kevin Jones = 5'11" 211
Domanick Davis = 5'9" 221
Brian Westbrook = 5'8" 203

Reggie Bush = 5'11" 202

"Reggie Bush is too small". Yeah. You're probably right.:brickwall

24 reps at 225 isn't good enough for you huh? Yeah. I can see that. I can see where you would bash the guy for not lifting more than the lineman who have longer arms. Makes sense.

"With the first pick in the 2006 NFL Draft, the Houston Texans select... Reggie Bush, running back, University of Southern California."

wait you did research? I thought this was all about how we FEEL. I can research and understand that Reggie Bush is a better fit for where our team is right now.

But the hometown story Feels good. I dont want to use my brain i want to use my feelings.

I dont know what is more ludicris this line of reasoning or the one we were given for going to war.

yes i made that comparison.

also dont forget to add Tiki Barber to the list 6'0 200lbs

 

[Dunta_23]

You mean you want Vince Young as well, then why are you arguing for Bush. You said the #1 player, that is Vince Young

Maybe only in your mind....not in anyones mind that actually matters

 

[coachdent]

wait you did research? I thought this was all about how we FEEL. I can research and understand that Reggie Bush is a better fit for where our team is right now.

But the hometown story Feels good. I dont want to use my brain i want to use my feelings.

I dont know what is more ludicris this line of reasoning or the one we were given for going to war.

yes i made that comparison.

also dont forget to add Tiki Barber to the list 6'0 200lbs

First... it is ludicrous, not ludicris. Ludicris is a rapper.

Second... Apparently I didn't understand that the message board was a venue to express our innermost feelings and hopes and dreams without any grounding in reality.

Third... The line of reasoning is called perspective. Folks get on here and label Bush as small and this and that. I thought I'd bring to light the fact that he is quite comparable in size to some successful running backs currently playing in the NFL.

Finally, there is verifiable evidence of weapons of mass destruction located in the biceps of Mr. Bush. Reggie Bush that is.

 

[jacquescas]

First... it is ludicrous, not ludicris. Ludicris is a rapper.

Second... Apparently I didn't understand that the message board was a venue to express our innermost feelings and hopes and dreams without any grounding in reality.

Third... The line of reasoning is called perspective. Folks get on here and label Bush as small and this and that. I thought I'd bring to light the fact that he is quite comparable in size to some successful running backs currently playing in the NFL.

Finally, there is verifiable evidence of weapons of mass destruction located in the biceps of Mr. Bush. Reggie Bush that is.

sorry forgot to use the guy on that one. i was actually in full support.

 

[coachdent]

I'm with you!

 

[bad]

I can see it already, once vince is drafted all the California guys who come on these threads will move off to the Jets web site and Texans can enjoy having a california free blog! I am so glad he ran in spikes on a track, just shows that california mind set!

First of all, California doesn't have a "mind set' - that's like...way too linear.

Also, since L. A. doesn't have a pro football team (unless you count USC), there can be no "homers"; in fact there is nobody in Los Angeles named Homer. We send all Homers to Reno or make them change their name to something less lame, such as "Moondoggie" or we just call 'em "Dude".

One last thing; this is not a blog. "Blog" is short for "Weblog". This is a message board.

 

[Vinny]

I just hope you guys who get this excited about players in their short pants get excited about the actual football game. It's amazing how many people come post about workouts but you never see them here when the games are going on. Most of these workouts don't do much for me. I knew both these guys can play by doing something strange and unique....I watched them play.

 

[Tejaspro]

Just a little advise to my friends... those "Crazy Posters" who might feel inclined to go "over the top"....

" It is far better to have people think you're a fool, than to open your mouth and prove it."

 

[teamplaya]

I agreee with you 100% every time I seen him talk he always find a way to bring up no state taxes in Texas so to me he is all about the money Vince is about the game ,the city and the fans not the money and the game is played on the field not the track

 

[Tejaspro]

Any time a person puts a factual perspective out, Pro-BUSH people come in with their Sarcastic comments. When people look at the world from a different perspective than the Por-Bush Clan they can not respond with strong arguments, only sacastic replies. You wanna know why, because they know its the truth and is killing them. When we take Vince it is going to tear them up but hey, at least the Texans will finnaly have a QB who can break a tackle and scramble out of the pocket.

If this isn't the kettle calling the pot black....:brickwall

 

[jacquescas]

If this isn't the kettle calling the pot black....:brickwall

the kettle would call it disrespectful, like VY did the wunderlich.

 

[Texans_Chick]

ESPN claims Bush ran 4.33-4.37 electronic time, and scouts had him at 4.37 to 4.41. Bush ran on a state of the art track, as in olympic track and field track not a lane of astro turf, in track cleats! HMMMM does Dom Davis play on Sunday in track cleats? Just so every pro-Bush person knows that 4.33 is right on the money, but due to the fact that he ran on a track in spikes is going to down grade that 40 time by at least a tenth of a second so you are looking at 4.43 to 4.47. This is why the NFL should move to a standard on training surfaces. The athletes at Texas ran on a strip of slow turf in football cleats, no wonder there 40 times were so dang off! Plus Electric times report accurate times, and they are much faster than the hand held times. It is not Bushes fault, props to the guy, but to evaluate his performance and try to caompare it to the rest of the playing field is so off. Most teams will have him run on grass/turf in football cleats, I wish we could get those recorded times!

And this is different than your other thread how?

I think Vince Young is a solid player, one that I would be really happy to see in a Texans uniform, but I gotta say you are reaching in your hating on Bush. RB is a solid player, had a solid proday, is likely to be a solid NFL player and a Houston Texan--one who possibly could be among the greats.

A lot of these Young or Bush threads seems to me to be like fat guys nitpicking Sports Illustrated swimsuit models.

 

[Texans_Chick]

I just hope you guys who get this excited about players in their short pants get excited about the actual football game. It's amazing how many people come post about workouts but you never see them here when the games are going on. Most of these workouts don't do much for me. I knew both these guys can play by doing something strange and unique....I watched them play.

Bravo.

I read somewhere recently (maybe SI?) that guys running with the football are timed faster than guys running without the football. That is amazing to think about, and something I look forward to seeing this fall.

 

[Blake]

I just hope you guys who get this excited about players in their short pants get excited about the actual football game. It's amazing how many people come post about workouts but you never see them here when the games are going on. Most of these workouts don't do much for me. I knew both these guys can play by doing something strange and unique....I watched them play.

I think the media, and hype make people take these "workouts" for more than they should.

Not all great football players are going to run sub 4.40's. Not all great football players are going to bench 38 times, or jump 10ft.

Its nice to know that player A can lift this much, run this fast, but at the end of the day, I am picking a football player, whom ive seen play damn good football.

 

[TreWardTxn]

Bush is an amazing talent, but I don't like the tendency for his supporters to completely overlook the fact that he has question marks to his game as well.

Some want him simply because we already have a QB (cap issues) and "can't use two QBs". Yeah, that's true, but Kubiak has never been part of any NFL offense where two tailbacks are on the field at the same time; they either use one tailback or a lead blocker, meaning every play for DD will take one away from Bush. Yes, Bush can spell DD (or vice versa) but I think it was witnessed that Bush could not wear down Texas' fast, and (relatively) undersized defense, meaning even less carries, and that he will likely not be a primary back.

The rebuttal for that is, 'but Bush can be split out as a receiver.' Admittedly, I don't have every USC game on tape, but I've seen all the highlights and watched as much of USC as any person in Texas can. I have not seen Bush routinely lined up in the slot and make big plays. Most of his big receptions were screens or him coming out of the backfield and going deep on an LB, like the infamous 'he couldn't even beat the Texas LB' play in the Rosebowl. Of course he wasn't too slow, but it's a lot harder to lob up deep balls against NFL-type safeties and LBs, it won't be a staple of the offense.

As for Young, forget that he's from Houston and the Hometown hero and all that. Tell me this, who do you honestly believed played against tougher comp in college? Who beared the weight and responsibility for their team's success? Young who was surrounded by sophmores and one go-to receiver (kinda) in Sweed and made his TE look all-world in the biggest game of his life (he was open all the time b/c LBs were watching Young). Leinart and Bush both had the comfort of knowing if one had a mediocre game, the other could pick up the slack, and if they couldn't then White would. My point is, Bush (and Leinart) could never possibly have it that good again. I have a hard time in passing up the guy that, when everyone elses head was down after going down two scores, he came on the field, and made the plays to win.

I'm not here to say that Young will come in and recreate the game of football. But once he matures as a passer, he will be the single greatest threat on a football field, affecting the defense on every snap, and opening up opportunities for his teammates for the next 15 years. I suppose I prefer long term gain over short term...

 

[tulexan]

As for Young, forget that he's from Houston and the Hometown hero and all that. Tell me this, who do you honestly believed played against tougher comp in college?

Both Reggie and Vince played against weak competition. The Pac 10 had a few teams that had good offenses but no good defenses and the Big 12 had no good teams besides Texas.

 

[Mailman04]

If the Texans didn't take Reggie, they shouldn't draft Vince Young. What a joke.

 

[cap1]

Don't try to respond to this lunatic with intelligent sounding posts. Just make up equally retarded ones and have fun with it while it lasts...

Not lunatic but Troll. This guy is crazy just like his name says, but atleast stick to one point. I have never seen anyone jump around on the same topic this much in the same day on the same Thread. :brickwall :brickwall

 

[cap1]

The more I read from this guy, the more I want Reggie Bush. If we draft Vince this guy is never going to leave.

Said it perfectly.:brickwall :brickwall :brickwall

 

[Texans86]

Reggie Bush/Vince Young makes my head hurt. It's hard to even read these threads after a while. They all seem so...repetative. Rarely do I read a new arguement, and most of those are feeble at best. I would like to quit the MB for the next month, just so I won't have to read some of the same dronging from various posters, but my mouse always leads me back.

It's a vicious cycle.

 

[TreWardTxn]

The entire 40 yard argument is ridiculous. The game isn't played in a straight line, I don't see why anyone would find it reasonable to argue over a few tenths of a second. I can run a 4.4 (or at least I did at the NFL park when the Superbowl came to town), but I'll never play a down of pro football, it takes a bit more...

Now, can we find something else to harp on?

 

[Texans86]

ESPN claims Bush ran 4.33-4.37 electronic time, and scouts had him at 4.37 to 4.41. Bush ran on a state of the art track, as in olympic track and field track not a lane of astro turf, in track cleats! HMMMM does Dom Davis play on Sunday in track cleats? Just so every pro-Bush person knows that 4.33 is right on the money, but due to the fact that he ran on a track in spikes is going to down grade that 40 time by at least a tenth of a second so you are looking at 4.43 to 4.47. This is why the NFL should move to a standard on training surfaces. The athletes at Texas ran on a strip of slow turf in football cleats, no wonder there 40 times were so dang off! Plus Electric times report accurate times, and they are much faster than the hand held times. It is not Bushes fault, props to the guy, but to evaluate his performance and try to caompare it to the rest of the playing field is so off. Most teams will have him run on grass/turf in football cleats, I wish we could get those recorded times!

Did you make two threads about nearly the same thing? I swear I've read this arguement before...like 2 minutes ago on your previous thread. Maybe I've completely lost it.

 

[Meskin]

The problem I have is several of VY's supporters have gone off the deep end with their bashing of Bush and CArr. It's gotten so nit-picking and childish.

I totally agree with you, but the Bush supports are guilty of the same. I have been a huge VY fan since he came back on OSU last year after halftime (he did the same thing to them this year), but as a Texans fan i want to see the team win first and formost, i couldn't careless who they pick Bush or Young, as long as they don't do something stupid like trade too far down, but i don't think that will happen.

Bush or Young, JUST WIN ALREADY!!

I love watching the texans play, but there just hasn't been much of anything to get excited about. I hope whoever they pick will be the NFL's version of M. Jordan, but houston doesn't have a good track record. Johnson and Robinson are great players but they desperatly need some help especially A.J.

i hope for the best this year. GO TEXANS

 

[TreWardTxn]

Both Reggie and Vince played against weak competition. The Pac 10 had a few teams that had good offenses but no good defenses and the Big 12 had no good teams besides Texas.

So I guess Ohio State was a trash team?

 

[cap1]

Man I need more Rep points to give out against some of these dumb @$$ posters on here. You guys are killing me with your remarks.

 

[KSig44]

Yeah, so was Notre Dame.

 

[Vinny]

I think I have had enough of this. You guys who just post to insult each other please take a break.