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steelbtexan

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Definitely food for thought.
I can see Lovie putting Stingley in the box safety position and Pitre in the free.
Let other guys on the roster prove them selves at corner?
Lol, this would be wasting Stingleys talent. I read somewhere that Lovie plans to put Stingley on the other teams best wr wherever that wr is on the field.
 

TheRealJoker

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Lol, this would be wasting Stingleys talent. I read somewhere that Lovie plans to put Stingley on the other teams best wr wherever that wr is on the field.
If a team wants to put Stingley at safety then they should’ve drafted Kyle Hamilton. Nobody looks as Stingley as a safety. No reason to have him work in different positions just for giggles. This isn’t a BOB OL.
 

IDEXAN

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Definitely food for thought.
I can see Lovie putting Stingley in the box safety position and Pitre in the free.
Let other guys on the roster prove them selves at corner?
I thought Stingley was somewhat like Neon in that he liked playing pass coverage (very proficient at it), but had a distaste for
run coverage, i.e., didn't particularly enjoying tackling which of course would mean he's unsuited for playing box safety ?
 

IDEXAN

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Stingley if healthy has proven to be adept in both man and zone coverage. It's the reason he was picked over Sauce. Sauce is mainly a man guy.
Ah yes "if healthy".
Hey Steel are you pretty pizzed that they drafted Stingley, drafted any CB with their #3, instead of Evan Neal ?
 

steelbtexan

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I don't follow the draft as closely as I used to. However, from everything I saw, I can not understand how we (or anyone else) would pass up the OT: Ekwonu!
I see Ekwonu as a serviceable OT and an above avg OG. Of course I wasn't as high on him as most. Check out his tape against Jermaine Johnson, Fla. St.

I had Neal as my #1 rated guy in the draft. More consistent and played against better competition.

Good to see you back man. Come around more often.
 

badboy

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I don't follow the draft as closely as I used to. However, from everything I saw, I can not understand how we (or anyone else) would pass up the OT: Ekwonu!
Smith was/is set on Tunsil and Howard as tackles. If Ekwonu picked he would have played OG and we got Green in trade down to 15 + 3 more picks IIRC. Many had us taking Neal, Okwonu or even Cross so you were not alone.
 

dalemurphy

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Smith was/is set on Tunsil and Howard as tackles. If Ekwonu picked he would have played OG and we got Green in trade down to 15 + 3 more picks IIRC. Many had us taking Neal, Okwonu or even Cross so you were not alone.
I think, when picking high in the 1st round, that picks should be made almost entirely without regard to positional need. IMO, Ekwonu is clearly the best player in the draft. However, I must confess that I am basing that opinion on very little evidence, given how little college football I have watched the past couple seasons.
 

steelbtexan

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I think, when picking high in the 1st round, that picks should be made almost entirely without regard to positional need. IMO, Ekwonu is clearly the best player in the draft. However, I must confess that I am basing that opinion on very little evidence, given how little college football I have watched the past couple seasons.
Ekwonu wasn't even the best ol in the draft. Some even had him as the 3rd best ol in the draft.
 

Texansphan

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I think, when picking high in the 1st round, that picks should be made almost entirely without regard to positional need. IMO, Ekwonu is clearly the best player in the draft. However, I must confess that I am basing that opinion on very little evidence, given how little college football I have watched the past couple seasons.
Kyle Hamilton, Aiden Hutchinson and Evan Neal were consistently ranked higher than Ekwonu.
That's not saying he won't be a very good player in the NFL.
 

thunderkyss

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I think, when picking high in the 1st round, that picks should be made almost entirely without regard to positional need. IMO, Ekwonu is clearly the best player in the draft. However, I must confess that I am basing that opinion on very little evidence, given how little college football I have watched the past couple seasons.
Is it that hard to believe the Texans did just that? Except their opinion of the hands down best player is different than yours?
 

badboy

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I think, when picking high in the 1st round, that picks should be made almost entirely without regard to positional need. IMO, Ekwonu is clearly the best player in the draft. However, I must confess that I am basing that opinion on very little evidence, given how little college football I have watched the past couple seasons.
Best Oline in that draft is simply an opinion and yours is as good as anyone's. It seems Car sterio thinks he got best player in draft left at 3rd. I watched more football last year than in some time and expect to increase it this off season. Absolutely following Browns, Jets, ATL, Detroit and Seattle-- hopefully for trade down opportunities.
 

leebigeztx

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How about by scouting services that actually make a living writing about draft prospects?
Do you think scouting services who write about prospects watch as much film or has the budget of a nfl team? When people make assumptions about which prospect is ranked based on something they've read, its just assumptions. Mike Mayock was golden during draft time on TV, but when he got to the point where his actual job counted on it, different story. If those guys you mentioned were ranked higher than the other guy by those that matter, he would've been drafted higher. That's not to say they don't miss, because they do, but they have way more information than the so called draft experts. One of my best friends was a regional scout for the 49ers in the 2000s. He was the plains scout for them, so all he scouted was like Denver and the surrounding area. Thats all he did was write reports for prospects. That was his job and only job. I have a hard time thinking a publication would have more insight about a player than a professional scout. Now who the gm chooses is another story.
 

JB

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Do you think scouting services who write about prospects watch as much film or has the budget of a nfl team? When people make assumptions about which prospect is ranked based on something they've read, its just assumptions. Mike Mayock was golden during draft time on TV, but when he got to the point where his actual job counted on it, different story. If those guys you mentioned were ranked higher than the other guy by those that matter, he would've been drafted higher. That's not to say they don't miss, because they do, but they have way more information than the so called draft experts. One of my best friends was a regional scout for the 49ers in the 2000s. He was the plains scout for them, so all he scouted was like Denver and the surrounding area. Thats all he did was write reports for prospects. That was his job and only job. I have a hard time thinking a publication would have more insight about a player than a professional scout. Now who the gm chooses is another story.
Which has little or nothing to do with the conversation... and many of those services such as the NFL and NFLN and CBS have actual scouts or former scouts doing the analyzing
 

JB

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Andy Janovich (Texans) one year, $1.5M base value, max value of $1.8M, $700,000 gtd; $200,000 signing bonus, salary $1.1M ($500,000 gtd), up to $200K in per game active roster bonuses, $300K playtime incentive #Texans
Yes and the pic of a (now deleted?) pft tweet said 2M signing bonus and $500,000 guaranteed making it seem the Texans were paying 2.5M for a player they cut during TC when actually all it cost was $700,000 in dead money
 

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JB

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Why?
It tells you why right in your post
 


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